This is just a stray thought I had about a year ago. It came to me as I and some others were working on problems related to Classical and Quantum Physics and some mulling over of "space-time" concerns we had. I thought I'd share it in a wildly simple form here (no equations).
When Christ ascended into heaven and was seated at the right-hand of God,... it is assumed that Christ inhabits eternity from that point on - as does God.
The question arose then: "So does that mean Christ would see no particular barrier between past, present and future?"
If that was the case - then one would have no trouble with having Christ being able to be at God's right-hand in every given point in time: past, present, and future. An Odd thought.
Only in our limited perspective of linear time - do we see his being there - a problem. Our Physical Universe may or may not allow for time-travel, but,... can we say the same of the 'place' called "eternity" that God inhabits? And does that extend to Christ? ...after he is seated at God's right-hand?
Not an odd thought, I was wondering if their could be a Quantum Physics effect?
I heard a guy one time in a prayer, he end that prayer in the name of the three
fathers, I thought that was odd, but in away he was right, according to what was
dear in his heart; I know nothing about Quantum Physics, but I was just wondering,
sometimes I think I am stuck in a time bubble like thing, how would these three fathers
effect time in a way, would their be an Quantum Physics effect when they first split, sorry
for my dumbness in asking, I am asking in the dark, thanks.
Could the Greek word Logos, be a notion that's anachronistically
read back into the bible, except the Mosaic Covenant was going on
in the Gospel of John? How does logos play a roll with that Mosaic
Covenant, or the other two covenants before it? Just a thought, thanks.
I don't pretend to understand Quantum Physics, no, not in the least. But I think I understand the Gospels well enough to know that Jesus was the end of the law. Moses brought the law. Jesus finished it. Stamped it with his blood. And did, Yeshua serve with God as high priest during the Abrahamic covenant. I think not. I hope you don't mind my asking teachmevp. but are you trying to find something in the scriptures that will put you under the old covenant, the doctrines and the traditions of men, or are you seeking answers to help you realize that you're free the bondages of the law and you are seeking more instruction on the how that that is?
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I see what your saying now cman, if we change the meaning of that logos word,
to just mean wisdom, the first five versus have a lot of insight to the six
temptations in which John follows?
George Aar, you don't believe, wow, but name calling?
I am not the sharpest crayon in the box, but these people
will keep bustin my chops, and we will figure it out, or
we will go back to square one, who knows, only at the
greasespot can one through it out there, the way was
in for the money, no reasoning with people in for the
money. Thanks for bustin my chops, you are right, I
will behave better, thanks.
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Sorry cman, I did not see your last post, great, do you have matt., mark, luke, and john,
those old texts have a lot of diamonds in the ruff. Here is something I think no one has ever
thought of, by leaving that word wisdom without logos, then those five versus could tie back
to the garden in the second heaven. Yahweh told adam not to eat of that tree, but eve eat
of it, and adam let her. Those six temptations of Yeshua can be tie back to that account,
because of the second adam, and that word life is a trip, the tree of life, what do you think?
Roy, I am sorry, please give me input, thanks.
What are your thoughts on why a bible is copy righted, how can one copy right a bible? I kinda
see how they can get away with it, certain meanings of words were changed. I tried to change
the meanings of those words back, to what they used to mean.
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God first
thanks teachmevp
your welcome my friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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What are your thoughts on this garden and six temptations, second adam thought?
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cman, I think we can harmonize the four gospel and the first chapter of Acts,
but thread space is the problem; but I have half of those gospels already
harmonized, we can start their without using so much text. Everybody
needs to use the texts that are dear to their hearts, lets rip it apart, who
knows, start a tread, thanks.
I was thinking, have you ever noticed how with like king james and those
offshoots of that text, have each of their versus one way; whereas the Aramaic
texts have their versus back wards, like flipped around, does that make sense?
Which flip do we use, that is kinda crazy, the chooses we are faced with?
We would have to get pawtucket's blessing on this, it is 100, more or less,
chapters of text? We could reason it out in the chat room, and post the results
in your thread?
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Name calling? I don't think so...
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If you want to harmonize anything godly you need to let go of the text,
and let the God of your heart listen. It's more then any book can hold.
The scriptures are a help, but let them be shown to you.
Anything written usually inspires something quite different,
and different for everyone.
If you want to post large blocks of your work, use
https://www.dropbox.com or a similar program, it's easy,
and add them to their program. then just post a link to them.
Then they can be downloaded by anyone interested.
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Thanks George Aar, if you see me getting to ....y, please point it out for me, thanks.
Cman, thanks for that drop box, i think I would be lost without the text, but I see
what your saying, like the manifestions, just do them from the heart, without quoting
chapter and versus; but I do need a whole lot of work on the listing part, thanks.
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Would it be possible to look at the four gospels from the stand
point of the law, just the law? Sometimes it seems we are ask to
by the text, to add this age point of views to the gospels, like
John 3:16; just a crazy thought?
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I stumbled across the first time all four of the gospels tell the same
story, the feeding of the seven thousand, it is cool how John tells its
part of the story. I was wondering if anyone ever noticed how Yeshua
told the disciples to row their boat to one place, when they were on
the lake, they were rolling towards another place, and after Yeshua
walked on the water to them, they went to different place altogether?
That is kinda trippe, how those four gospels tell that part of the story?
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Thanks everyone for all your input on that subject, for me to go
further would only be knit picking, I lack writing skills for that.
I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box, but I try, I see a lot of things
man has done to Yahweh's word, but I am not very convincing in telling
people what was done?
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Not an odd thought, I was wondering if their could be a Quantum Physics effect?
I heard a guy one time in a prayer, he end that prayer in the name of the three
fathers, I thought that was odd, but in away he was right, according to what was
dear in his heart; I know nothing about Quantum Physics, but I was just wondering,
sometimes I think I am stuck in a time bubble like thing, how would these three fathers
effect time in a way, would their be an Quantum Physics effect when they first split, sorry
for my dumbness in asking, I am asking in the dark, thanks.
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I think I learned a noun and a verb today; I asked if life could be a noun, and a great person
showed the noun life, and the verb of life, "to live". My thought is, "to live" in eternity, but what
one does in eternity, that would be a adverb? I thought I heard one time where a adverb gives color
to the sentence, or something like that? Would their be a barrier, but crossing such barrier, would their
be a different, "to live" verb in effect in Quantum Physics, between these two different spaces?
This is a nutty question, but would their be a Quantum Physics thing going on with that verb of life "to live",
so to speak, would living outside a room like structure in eternity, be a different "to live" in eternity living in the
structure, from that Quantum Physics "to live" thing going on the other side? Like if their was a wasted surface, was
it always wasted in eternity, or could you build a structure to protect a new eternity, from the Quantum Physics effect
that caused that surface, to be a wasted surface in the first place?
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Can their be a eternity, in which Quantum Physics were started, within a eternity that has
Quantum Physics going on naturally, outside of that enclosed eternity?
Is there Quantum Physics in a way, between the believers old man and new man, a barrier; like two galaxies
geting to close to one other, but if they cross paths; Quantum Physics of barrier results?
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Could the Greek word Logos, be a notion that's anachronistically
read back into the bible, except the Mosaic Covenant was going on
in the Gospel of John? How does logos play a roll with that Mosaic
Covenant, or the other two covenants before it? Just a thought, thanks.
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Just to add to your considerations, teach, check out this link: John 1:1
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I don't pretend to understand Quantum Physics, no, not in the least. But I think I understand the Gospels well enough to know that Jesus was the end of the law. Moses brought the law. Jesus finished it. Stamped it with his blood. And did, Yeshua serve with God as high priest during the Abrahamic covenant. I think not. I hope you don't mind my asking teachmevp. but are you trying to find something in the scriptures that will put you under the old covenant, the doctrines and the traditions of men, or are you seeking answers to help you realize that you're free the bondages of the law and you are seeking more instruction on the how that that is?
Just curious!
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I was trying to show the storyline of John, sure we know the ending, but when
we read John from the beginning, the storyline is under the Mosaic Covenant,
what Yeshua accomplished for us all, is at ending of the end of the storyline.
No traditions of men, no bondage, but we should not treat the blood of Yeshua
the Messiah as ordinary blood in are liberties, being free from the law?
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do we?
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I see you what to put back John 1:6-1:14 into the storyline cman, I understand your
lack of understanding of the end of the storyline of the gospels and the first
chapter of Acts? I went forward with what I learned in PFAL, do you really what
me to go backwards, and put the meaning of Logos back into my Fathers word,
no, I'm not as dumb as I look?
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lol...come on teachmevp,
you think you understand what about me?
I burned everything pfal out of my mind a long time ago
yet some comes back to mind with a different look at times
see what you want,
even better
look at other things not considered before
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Lotta real scholars out there whose works we never got to hear of.
Lotta real Christian living out there whose joyful hearts brought forth works we never got to hear about
Lotta real love out there that we never got to celebrate.
Lotta beauty of creation out there that we never got to consider and think how wonderfully that was made.
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No one ever considered to take Logos out and replace it with wisdom?
No one ever considered to start reading John after the six temptations
in the storyline?
No one ever considered that life in John 10:10, is a noun, not a verb?
No one ever considered keeping the first five verse of John, and reasoning
them with what happen in the garden on the earth in the second heaven?
No one ever considered talking about the garden on the earth in the first
heaven, and taking a look at what Lucifer truly did?
But I truly think, I have a solid reasoning going on here, we are arguing over
nothing, the trinity is only going backwards, lets go forward?
cman, I forgot, because of your advice, I started that Christine Hayes thread.
That stuff is over my head, but I see it, just throw it out their, thanks buddy.
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Thanks Twinky.
Teachmwvp, a noun is dead without help.
No argument from me, do what you want.
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