Typical way international "logic." Let's hold to what we believe to be true and then look for any evidence to support our beliefs. If there is not evidence then it's spiritual and needs only to be believed. If there is "evidence" then it's spiritual supported by the physical. Tie in a few misquoted scriptures and you have yourself a teaching.
BTW - Nottawayfer that particular innie fancies himself to be a LOT more intelligent than evidence to the contrary suggests.
I'm off to disciple myself to waysider, as levitating tables has always been a suppressed interest of mine. Now that I know it can be done I am ready to sit at your feet waysider.
Okay this info is Waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy (pardon the pun) out of date!!!
Electrons are both particles and waves at alternating times, the relationship between mass and energy is much better known, and there are always the same number of particles {electrons} filling any atoms various shells {if they convert to wave-form, another material electron appears in it's place}.
As intricate as it all may seem, the basics will boil down to this, spirit is spirit, matter & energy is matter & energy. Energy, no matter how energetic, is not spirit.
As intricate as it all may seem, the basics will boil down to this, spirit is spirit, matter & energy is matter & energy. Energy, no matter how energetic, is not spirit.
But...but...but...I can control them with my dominant thoughts!!
As intricate as it all may seem, the basics will boil down to this, spirit is spirit, matter & energy is matter & energy. Energy, no matter how energetic, is not spirit.
As if anyone has been able to adequately define "spirit". We all think we know what it is, and many here were bamboozled by TWI's take on spirit and what was spiritual, but honestly, does anyone really know?
Law of believing, Tony Robbing, The Secret, The Law of Attraction.....it's the same and it's all good until you actually put it to the test and it's proven false. Then it's your fault and you need to go work on things.
But here we see a good example of junk science perhaps? This stuff from the facebook account would be great to for a class coordinator to stuff in between sessions during a foundational class. Then they can cap it off with "It's electrifRying that the more scientists learn the closer they get to God's matchless werd.."
As if anyone has been able to adequately define "spirit". We all think we know what it is, and many here were bamboozled by TWI's take on spirit and what was spiritual, but honestly, does anyone really know?
Nah, but we will one day, God willing,.... All I know is that we can try our very best to understand the things God tells us for now.
Now if I can shoot a laser at it, Contain it in a magnetic field, or experiment with it to obtain a consistant result --- I'm happy. Knowledge ever increases, but that knowledge is of the world, the heavens and the earth that are already made. There's so much to understand and learn there, and doing so can make people's lives a little easier, or kill them. All the grand knowledge we profess to have is nothing compared to the Mind of God and spirit, which he is. That He would share anything of this with us has always amazed me.
I've heard the idea that Spirit is an advanced state of energy, moving far beyond the speed of light, too fast to see with our eyes, that has to "slow-down" to come into concretion. I also heard that the moon was made out of swiss cheese, and that upon finding out that it was not, we stopped going there.
Laundry is real though, and I have a lot of it to do. I can understand laundry.
Electrons are both particles and waves at alternating times, the relationship between mass and energy is much better known, and there are always the same number of particles {electrons} filling any atoms various shells {if they convert to wave-form, another material electron appears in it's place}.
've heard the idea that Spirit is an advanced state of energy, moving far beyond the speed of light, too fast to see with our eyes, that has to "slow-down" to come into concretion. I also heard that the moon was made out of swiss cheese, and that upon finding out that it was not, we stopped going there.
ha! Then there are those who think we never even went to the moon, despite bringing back scalps (rocks) or something..
I dunno.. sometimes I think we were like moths to the flame.. got stuck in some kind of circular space/time trap or something..
As if anyone has been able to adequately define "spirit". We all think we know what it is, and many here were bamboozled by TWI's take on spirit and what was spiritual, but honestly, does anyone really know?
We use the word in our vernacular....I don't really think it is much different than how we would use it in description today....the essence of something not tangible, but nevertheless....real.... :)
I've heard the idea that Spirit is an advanced state of energy, moving far beyond the speed of light, too fast to see with our eyes, that has to "slow-down" to come into concretion. . . .
*sigh*. . . give the student the time of day . . .
Spirit is thicker than blood. It's a simple viscosity measurement. Grab a drinking straw and a stopwatch . . .
hmmmm,.... well according to the double slit test,............ (and this Innie twist on it) shouldn't everything have shown up right where they believed it would?
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Gen-2
I just hope you're not the one hurting the cows, Ham......
Gen-2
Actually, we're learning quite a bit about this. It turns out that both are right (to some extent), and that more answers simply raise more questions, and that all 'of the answers are yet to be found'
Broken Arrow
Upon reading this thread, I have decided to take the advice of Mark Twain when he said, "Better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you're a fool then to open it and remove all doubt."
waysider
I guess that explains how I've been able to levitate tables all these years.
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"do not anger the quantum spirits"
"now i can use this quantum power to get my way."
"this proves that my religious group is the only way."
"we can make a lot of money this way."
"so it all comes down to this."
"there is no way to know."
"that's one way to interpret experience."
etc...
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Typical way international "logic." Let's hold to what we believe to be true and then look for any evidence to support our beliefs. If there is not evidence then it's spiritual and needs only to be believed. If there is "evidence" then it's spiritual supported by the physical. Tie in a few misquoted scriptures and you have yourself a teaching.
BTW - Nottawayfer that particular innie fancies himself to be a LOT more intelligent than evidence to the contrary suggests.
I'm off to disciple myself to waysider, as levitating tables has always been a suppressed interest of mine. Now that I know it can be done I am ready to sit at your feet waysider.
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Okay this info is Waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy (pardon the pun) out of date!!!
Electrons are both particles and waves at alternating times, the relationship between mass and energy is much better known, and there are always the same number of particles {electrons} filling any atoms various shells {if they convert to wave-form, another material electron appears in it's place}.
As intricate as it all may seem, the basics will boil down to this, spirit is spirit, matter & energy is matter & energy. Energy, no matter how energetic, is not spirit.
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But...but...but...I can control them with my dominant thoughts!!
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Tzaia
As if anyone has been able to adequately define "spirit". We all think we know what it is, and many here were bamboozled by TWI's take on spirit and what was spiritual, but honestly, does anyone really know?
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cman
the spirit knows.....
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Bolshevik
I seem to remember certain cabinet being excited about "the secret"
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John.
Anonym zu thesecret.tv/
Reads just like a green card.
Law of believing, Tony Robbing, The Secret, The Law of Attraction.....it's the same and it's all good until you actually put it to the test and it's proven false. Then it's your fault and you need to go work on things.
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I'm guessing that the "double slit test" is the logical explanation for the "fog years".
Shoot the same cr@p through one slit (docvic)/ and then through a 2nd (lcm),
and they cancel each other out.
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But here we see a good example of junk science perhaps? This stuff from the facebook account would be great to for a class coordinator to stuff in between sessions during a foundational class. Then they can cap it off with "It's electrifRying that the more scientists learn the closer they get to God's matchless werd.."
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Nah, but we will one day, God willing,.... All I know is that we can try our very best to understand the things God tells us for now.
Now if I can shoot a laser at it, Contain it in a magnetic field, or experiment with it to obtain a consistant result --- I'm happy. Knowledge ever increases, but that knowledge is of the world, the heavens and the earth that are already made. There's so much to understand and learn there, and doing so can make people's lives a little easier, or kill them. All the grand knowledge we profess to have is nothing compared to the Mind of God and spirit, which he is. That He would share anything of this with us has always amazed me.
I've heard the idea that Spirit is an advanced state of energy, moving far beyond the speed of light, too fast to see with our eyes, that has to "slow-down" to come into concretion. I also heard that the moon was made out of swiss cheese, and that upon finding out that it was not, we stopped going there.
Laundry is real though, and I have a lot of it to do. I can understand laundry.
I do so love life!
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The laundry you have always with you.
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Yeah...what she said!
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ha! Then there are those who think we never even went to the moon, despite bringing back scalps (rocks) or something..
I dunno.. sometimes I think we were like moths to the flame.. got stuck in some kind of circular space/time trap or something..
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We use the word in our vernacular....I don't really think it is much different than how we would use it in description today....the essence of something not tangible, but nevertheless....real.... :)
I gave it a shot anyway.
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I was just there.. hanging around, minding my own business (?) and somebody pulls the plug on seven dimensions or so or something..
obviously its not a paradise here. It would be disappointing to find out this ended up being some kind of cosmic trash dump or something..
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*sigh*. . . give the student the time of day . . .
Spirit is thicker than blood. It's a simple viscosity measurement. Grab a drinking straw and a stopwatch . . .
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OldSkool
C'mon guys. You all know that spirit is light in concretion.
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Ham
light, schmight..
the last big dream (vision?) I at least I am aware of..
I'm in a transparent room. large glass or crystal walls.. at least ten meters tall..
inside, we are all dressed in either light, or white..
the closest I've seen this fulfilled in this existence.. I was dressed up in black along with a few hundred others..
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hmmmm,.... well according to the double slit test,............ (and this Innie twist on it) shouldn't everything have shown up right where they believed it would?
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That must come in real handy when you're vacuuming.
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I just hope you're not the one hurting the cows, Ham......
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I thought that Ockham's Razor suggested that- since neither "particle" nor "wave" can fully
explain electrons, that BOTH explanations are WRONG and that the actual answer
has yet to be found.
I had a Chemistry professor in college say that, and it's the best answer I've heard
as to why neither explanation works WELL.
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