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These are funny Abigail, perhaps because their silliness sounds very human and something I can relate to also, sometimes seemingly more than others of course. :redface: :B) :redface:

In this medium of posted words I tryyyy to give folks the benefit of the doubt as to motivation even in those cases where the actions seem the same.

But if it quacks like a duck..............

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Well whatever it is, I can only get a header saying Cracked.com and a blank page. Was Abi having a joke, or is there something to see?

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Here's the way its all done :)

***********The twelve commandments of flaming**************

1. Make things up about your opponent: It's important to make your lies sound

true. Preface your argument with the word "clearly." "Clearly, Pawtucket is a liar, and a dirtball to boot."

2. Be an armchair psychologist: You're a smart person. You've heard of

Freud. You took a psychology course in college. Clearly, you're qualified

to psychoanalyze your opponent. "Abigail, by using the word

'zucchini' in her posting, shows she has a bad case of penis envy."

3. Cross-post your flames: Everyone on the net is just waiting for the next

literary masterpiece to leave your terminal. From the Way Corpse site to

Facebook, they're all holding their breaths until your next flame.

Therefore, post everywhere.

4. Conspiracies abound: If everyone's against you, the reason can't

*possibly* be that you're a jerk. There's obviously a conspiracy

against you, and you will be doing the entire internet a favor by exposing it.

5. Lawsuit threats: This is the reverse of Rule #4 (sort of like the Yin &

Yang of flaming). Threatening a lawsuit is always considered to be in

good form. "By saying that I've posted to the wrong group, George Aar has

libelled me, slandered me, and sodomized me. See you in court, George!"

6. Force them to document their claims: Even if Jonny Lingo states outright

that he likes tomato sauce on his pasta, you should demand documentation.

If Newsweek hasn't written an article on Jonny's pasta preferences, then

Jonny is obviously lying.

7. Use foreign phrases: French is good, but Latin is the lingua franca of

flaming. You should use the words "ad hominem" at least three times per

article. Other favorite Latin phrases are "ad nauseum", "vini, vidi,

vici", "fetuccini alfredo".

8. Tell 'em how smart you are: Why use intelligent arguments to convince them

you're smart when all you have to do is tell them? State that you're a

member of Mensa or Mega or Dorks of America. Tell them the scores you

received on every exam since high school. "I got an 800 on my SATs, LSATs,

GREs, MCATs, and I can also spell the word 'premeiotic' ".

9. Accuse your opponent of censorship. It is your right as an American citizen

to post whatever the hell you want to on the internet (as guaranteed by the 37th

Amendment, I think). Anyone who tries to limit your cross-posting or move

a flame war to email is either a communist, a fascist, or both.

10. Doubt their existence: You've never actually seen your opponent, have you?

And since you're the center of the universe, you should have seen them by

now, shouldn't you? Therefore, THEY DON'T EXIST! This is the beauty of

flamers' logic.

11. Lie, cheat, steal, leave the toilet seat up.

12. When in doubt, insult: If you forget the other 11 rules, remember this one.

At some point during your wonderful career as a flamer you will

undoubtedly end up in a flame war with someone who is better than you.

This person will expose your lies, tear apart your arguments, make you

look generally like a bozo. At this point, there's only one thing to do:

insult the dirtbag!!! "Oh yeah? Well, your mother does strange things with

vegetables."

sudo

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I liked this part in the article:

"The important thing to remember is that you are dealing with a person who has essentially placed a twig on their head and expects you to believe they are a tree."

Classic application to a Wayfer. :spy:

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Well whatever it is, I can only get a header saying Cracked.com and a blank page. Was Abi having a joke, or is there something to see?

There are several argumentative "techniques" listed on the site Abi linked.

Maybe you just aren't sharp enough to see them; or maybe you see them but are lying to us; or maybe you're not Twinky at all, just some commie-pinko trying to derail the thread. I'm sorry if you just can't see it. But the way you've impugned Abi has clearly violated her 1st Amendment rights. You should be thatnking her, instead!

:biglaugh:

George

(Sudo's ad hominem argument, notwithstanding)

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Here's the way its all done :)

***********The twelve commandments of flaming**************

1. Make things up about your opponent: It's important to make your lies sound

true. Preface your argument with the word "clearly." "Clearly, Pawtucket is a liar, and a dirtball to boot."

2. Be an armchair psychologist: You're a smart person. You've heard of

Freud. You took a psychology course in college. Clearly, you're qualified

to psychoanalyze your opponent. "Abigail, by using the word

'zucchini' in her posting, shows she has a bad case of penis envy."

3. Cross-post your flames: Everyone on the net is just waiting for the next

literary masterpiece to leave your terminal. From the Way Corpse site to

Facebook, they're all holding their breaths until your next flame.

Therefore, post everywhere.

4. Conspiracies abound: If everyone's against you, the reason can't

*possibly* be that you're a jerk. There's obviously a conspiracy

against you, and you will be doing the entire internet a favor by exposing it.

5. Lawsuit threats: This is the reverse of Rule #4 (sort of like the Yin &

Yang of flaming). Threatening a lawsuit is always considered to be in

good form. "By saying that I've posted to the wrong group, George Aar has

libelled me, slandered me, and sodomized me. See you in court, George!"

6. Force them to document their claims: Even if Jonny Lingo states outright

that he likes tomato sauce on his pasta, you should demand documentation.

If Newsweek hasn't written an article on Jonny's pasta preferences, then

Jonny is obviously lying.

7. Use foreign phrases: French is good, but Latin is the lingua franca of

flaming. You should use the words "ad hominem" at least three times per

article. Other favorite Latin phrases are "ad nauseum", "vini, vidi,

vici", "fetuccini alfredo".

8. Tell 'em how smart you are: Why use intelligent arguments to convince them

you're smart when all you have to do is tell them? State that you're a

member of Mensa or Mega or Dorks of America. Tell them the scores you

received on every exam since high school. "I got an 800 on my SATs, LSATs,

GREs, MCATs, and I can also spell the word 'premeiotic' ".

9. Accuse your opponent of censorship. It is your right as an American citizen

to post whatever the hell you want to on the internet (as guaranteed by the 37th

Amendment, I think). Anyone who tries to limit your cross-posting or move

a flame war to email is either a communist, a fascist, or both.

10. Doubt their existence: You've never actually seen your opponent, have you?

And since you're the center of the universe, you should have seen them by

now, shouldn't you? Therefore, THEY DON'T EXIST! This is the beauty of

flamers' logic.

11. Lie, cheat, steal, leave the toilet seat up.

12. When in doubt, insult: If you forget the other 11 rules, remember this one.

At some point during your wonderful career as a flamer you will

undoubtedly end up in a flame war with someone who is better than you.

This person will expose your lies, tear apart your arguments, make you

look generally like a bozo. At this point, there's only one thing to do:

insult the dirtbag!!! "Oh yeah? Well, your mother does strange things with

vegetables."

sudo

OMG!!! It's the JWO thread from 2005 resurrected!! eusa_clap.gifeusa_clap.gifeusa_clap.gifeusa_clap.gifeusa_clap.gif

Them were the days. Thanks for re-posting this opening post from that thread, Sudo! dance.gifdance.gif

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hi abi

can you tell me why you started this thread? thanks

ExC, I just thought it was a funny article. Cracked.com does a lot of "spoof" and humorous articles. I read them, they make me laugh. I thought I would share this one. It made me laugh at myself where I see myself. It made me laugh where I see others in it too. Not in a mean way, but sort of in the same way we might laugh at a family member who we know is not perfect, but who we love anyway.

I've been away from this place for a long time. The first time I walked away for a lenghty time I came back and I found everyone irritated me, even those who I was once close with. I left again for a long time. Now I am back and I am not irritated. Instead it is more like seeing old friends and remembering how silly we could be some times.

I think sometimes we take ourselves and/or each other too seriously. It is good to laugh. Laughter is good medicine.

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There are several argumentative "techniques" listed on the site Abi linked.

Maybe you just aren't sharp enough to see them; or maybe you see them but are lying to us; or maybe you're not Twinky at all, just some commie-pinko trying to derail the thread. I'm sorry if you just can't see it. But the way you've impugned Abi has clearly violated her 1st Amendment rights. You should be thatnking her, instead!

:biglaugh:

George

(Sudo's ad hominem argument, notwithstanding)

Oh. Mea culpa.

But I still can't get into the article, heh heh.

Funny, George, and thanks Dmiller.

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