Example: I speak resurrection to strengthen my back and claim the resurrection of Jesus to heal me as he already paid the price for all that ails me.
The following is most pertinent to those that claim to believe the story book text -
There is no operation of Divine wisdom that has been so completely misapprehended and misrepresented as the shedding of the blood of Christ. Popular preaching brings it down to a level with the sacrifices of idolatrous superstition, by which wrathful deities are supposed to be placated by the blood of a substitutionary victim. Christ is represented as having paid our debts—as having died instead of us—as having stood in our room like a substitute in military service, or like a man rushing to the scaffold where a criminal is about to be executed, and offering to die instead of him (a favourite illustration in the evangelical pulpit).
Such views are contradicted by even the most superficial facts of the case; for if Christ died instead of us, then we ought not to die (which we do); and if he paid the penalty naturally due from us—death—he ought not to have risen (which he did). And if his death was of the character alleged, the redeeming power lay in itself and not in the resurrection that followed; whereas Paul declares to the Corinthians that, notwithstanding the death of Christ, “if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain: ye are yet in your sins” (1- Corinthians 15:17).
Further, if Christ has paid our debts, our debts are not “forgiven,” for it would be out of place for a creditor to talk of having forgiven a debt which someone else has paid for the debtor; and thus is blotted out the very first feature of the gospel of the grace of God—the forgiveness of our sins “through the forbearance of God” (Romans 3:25 ). (Extract from The Blood of Christ by Robert Roberts)
No Easter eggs for you, then, Composer, nor "Good" Friday and Easter Monday as statutory holidays. Nor 25 Dec, and no Chrissie pressies. (LOL)
Enjoy your life while it lasts.
Maybe you'd like to start a thread about what you use for rules for life. Those rules don't seem to include graciousness.
Everybody else: went to the second service at my church. It was an all-age service (kids didn't go out). People were asked to get into little groups with people sitting nearby. We were asked how we learned: by copying. We were asked to write down a few things that we thought Jesus would be like. One of the kids wrote, "Like my Dad." That got a round of applause. That little lad copied his Dad, who was copying (one hopes) Jesus, who copied his Dad - God.
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Twinky
Happy Easter to you too, Dot!
"New every morning is the love
"Our wakening and uprising prove;
"Through sleep and darkness safely brought,
"Restored to life and power and thought."
New Every Morning - tune
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The following is most pertinent to those that claim to believe the story book text -
There is no operation of Divine wisdom that has been so completely misapprehended and misrepresented as the shedding of the blood of Christ. Popular preaching brings it down to a level with the sacrifices of idolatrous superstition, by which wrathful deities are supposed to be placated by the blood of a substitutionary victim. Christ is represented as having paid our debts—as having died instead of us—as having stood in our room like a substitute in military service, or like a man rushing to the scaffold where a criminal is about to be executed, and offering to die instead of him (a favourite illustration in the evangelical pulpit).
Such views are contradicted by even the most superficial facts of the case; for if Christ died instead of us, then we ought not to die (which we do); and if he paid the penalty naturally due from us—death—he ought not to have risen (which he did). And if his death was of the character alleged, the redeeming power lay in itself and not in the resurrection that followed; whereas Paul declares to the Corinthians that, notwithstanding the death of Christ, “if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain: ye are yet in your sins” (1- Corinthians 15:17).
Further, if Christ has paid our debts, our debts are not “forgiven,” for it would be out of place for a creditor to talk of having forgiven a debt which someone else has paid for the debtor; and thus is blotted out the very first feature of the gospel of the grace of God—the forgiveness of our sins “through the forbearance of God” (Romans 3:25 ). (Extract from The Blood of Christ by Robert Roberts)
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geisha779
Happy Easter sister! :)
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How great is Your love
So much higher than the heavens
With faithfulness that reaches the sky
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No Easter eggs for you, then, Composer, nor "Good" Friday and Easter Monday as statutory holidays. Nor 25 Dec, and no Chrissie pressies. (LOL)
Enjoy your life while it lasts.
Maybe you'd like to start a thread about what you use for rules for life. Those rules don't seem to include graciousness.
Everybody else: went to the second service at my church. It was an all-age service (kids didn't go out). People were asked to get into little groups with people sitting nearby. We were asked how we learned: by copying. We were asked to write down a few things that we thought Jesus would be like. One of the kids wrote, "Like my Dad." That got a round of applause. That little lad copied his Dad, who was copying (one hopes) Jesus, who copied his Dad - God.
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