i can no longer help but wonder if what the brothers grimm are pointing to here is perhaps closer to the original meaning behind the biblical "thief in the night" type warnings.
much like a notion in the fields of aging and hospice...that one does well (for everyone) to avoid "doing our all our homework in the 11th hour"
as if the original context and living application of the metaphors involved a calling and devotion to "dying well" and the very real effect that this alone has on aging and the development of the moral imagination.
is it possible we have replaced the profound wisdom of the very real "arts" of "dying well" with the literalization and perpetuation of mere supernatural hero myths?
if so, is this the kind of scriptural distortion that leads to destructive misuse...mostly for simply "missing the vital point" and all its correlating fundamentals?
...
a pattern...
last night i went to an event where neighboring christian and muslim communities met to debate their different views of easter and the resurrection.
as usual, both the christian and muslim leaders presented and debated mostly only over matters of translation, evidence for supernatural, right interpretations, etc....
when the microphone was passed around for some Q&A, i simply asked something like, "are either of you aware of the rich histories of life and practice in the "arts of dying" that are associated with both sacred texts and religions?"
both more-or-less said "no"...and changed the subject back to the supernatural and such.
talked a bit more with each of them in the afterward social, clarified a bit more about how the "arts of dying" included things like stages of life, aging, hospice, grief, storytelling, friendship, music thanatology, community for caregivers, etc...yet both leaders confirmed that they were still more or less oblivious to what i was talking about...one of them even seemed very NOT-interested.
also met an "ex-christian" lady in the audience whose friend died a month ago...she seemed as unaware of these "arts" as much as the presenters were.
but she told me her story of her friend and her passing, and that she recognized what i was pointing at in spite of it being more-or-less absent from her previous christian doctrine and practice (which sounded a lot like a cousin to pfal/twi)
i suggested she revisit and recontextualize the role of scripture in light of all this...even as a way to heal the wounds of what may simply be a profound misunderstanding...and maybe even redeem the scripture of her life.
Also found in Randolph, Vol. II, #188, "The Dying Cowboy"; Belden, p. 397, "The Dying Cowboy."
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Folklore associated with dying in the west of Ireland
Sinead Donnelly
West of Scotland Palliative Medicine, Hunters Hill Marie Curie, Springburn, Glasgow
The warm welcome for modern advances in the care of the dying should not exclude the past in which there is much to be learned from the skills of our ancestors.
A bilingual two-year qualitative research project into traditions associated with dying and death was undertaken. Research began in the archives available in the internationally recognized university folklore departments of Ireland and Scotland. This was augmented by 40 indepth personal interviews with Gaelic- and English-speaking residents in rural communities of both countries, recalling local customs and practices in the care of the dying. This paper reports the Irish experience; the collection of data in Scotland continues.
From this study, several main themes emerged. Death was seen and accepted as a natural continuation of life, simply a step into the spirit world. In view of people's oneness with nature and the spiritual world, death was not to be feared. Traditions were unique to each area even down to the precise number of candles used at the sickbed. People understood the signs and symptoms of dying and were skilled in alleviating the distress of both relatives and the dying; and, in this, language was important in capturing and expressing the philosophy of these people. The acceptance of death as the one truism of life was facilitated by the strong faith and prayer of people for whom, in the celebration of death, humour was never far away. In their grief, the community was supported by the loose formality of the wake (torramh), funeral procession, keening (caoineadh) and music. In all these, the men and women of the community and its leaders had distinct and respected roles to play.
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Folklore associated with dying in the west of Ireland.
Donnelly S.
The warm welcome for modern advances in the care of the dying should not exclude the past in which there is much to be learned from the skills of our ancestors. A bilingual two-year qualitative research project into traditions associated with dying and death was undertaken. Research began in the archives available in the internationally recognized university folklore departments of Ireland and Scotland. This was augmented by 40 indepth personal interviews with Gaelic- and English-speaking residents in rural communities of both countries, recalling local customs and practices in the care of the dying. This paper reports the Irish experience; the collection of data in Scotland continues. From this study, several main themes emerged. Death was seen and accepted as a natural continuation of life, simply a step into the spirit world. In view of people's oneness with nature and the spiritual world, death was not to be feared. Traditions were unique to each area even down to the precise number of candles used at the sickbed. People understood the signs and symptoms of dying and were skilled in alleviating the distress of both relatives and the dying; and, in this, language was important in capturing and expressing the philosophy of these people. The acceptance of death as the one truism of life was facilitated by the strong faith and prayer of people for whom, in the celebration of death, humour was never far away. In their grief, the community was supported by the loose formality of the wake (torramh), funeral procession, keening (caoineadh) and music. In all these, the men and women of the community and its leaders had distinct and respected roles to play.
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what a gem, Roy
i can no longer help but wonder if what the brothers grimm are pointing to here is perhaps closer to the original meaning behind the biblical "thief in the night" type warnings.
much like a notion in the fields of aging and hospice...that one does well (for everyone) to avoid "doing our all our homework in the 11th hour"
as if the original context and living application of the metaphors involved a calling and devotion to "dying well" and the very real effect that this alone has on aging and the development of the moral imagination.
is it possible we have replaced the profound wisdom of the very real "arts" of "dying well" with the literalization and perpetuation of mere supernatural hero myths?
if so, is this the kind of scriptural distortion that leads to destructive misuse...mostly for simply "missing the vital point" and all its correlating fundamentals?
...
a pattern...
last night i went to an event where neighboring christian and muslim communities met to debate their different views of easter and the resurrection.
as usual, both the christian and muslim leaders presented and debated mostly only over matters of translation, evidence for supernatural, right interpretations, etc....
when the microphone was passed around for some Q&A, i simply asked something like, "are either of you aware of the rich histories of life and practice in the "arts of dying" that are associated with both sacred texts and religions?"
both more-or-less said "no"...and changed the subject back to the supernatural and such.
talked a bit more with each of them in the afterward social, clarified a bit more about how the "arts of dying" included things like stages of life, aging, hospice, grief, storytelling, friendship, music thanatology, community for caregivers, etc...yet both leaders confirmed that they were still more or less oblivious to what i was talking about...one of them even seemed very NOT-interested.
also met an "ex-christian" lady in the audience whose friend died a month ago...she seemed as unaware of these "arts" as much as the presenters were.
but she told me her story of her friend and her passing, and that she recognized what i was pointing at in spite of it being more-or-less absent from her previous christian doctrine and practice (which sounded a lot like a cousin to pfal/twi)
i suggested she revisit and recontextualize the role of scripture in light of all this...even as a way to heal the wounds of what may simply be a profound misunderstanding...and maybe even redeem the scripture of her life.
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thanks Todd
I wish more people would see the value of dying well
as i think on things I wish i had more answers to life
and putting death where it should be because it only a natural stage
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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thanks everybody
THE DYING RANGER
(THE DYING COWBOY)
Sung by: Almeda Riddle
Recorded in Miller, AR, 6/25/53
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