The Way said to pray for NO DREAMS

[WordWolf]

Yup. Docvic used to say "10 minutes of S.I.T. is better than 8 hours of sleep", (or something to that effect).

I fell for a lot of what he said, but that line there was so absurd and over-the-top it defied credibility even *back then*.

He started with that sort of thing in pfal, when talking about speaking in tongues.

He said it was "rest to the soul", and then began expounding further from there.

He claimed he'd gotten to the point that he never dreamed.

Horse manure- if he wasn't INTENTIONALLY lying, he simply DID NOT REMEMBER his dreams.

People deprived of the ability to dream when asleep- that is, being kept awake or

awakened just as it starts- will have their bodies recalibrate to compensate.

So, if you're not getting ENOUGH sleep (REM-sleep tends to occur at the END of the

sleep cycles, so wake up early and cut off the dream-state),

then your body will adjust so that you'll go into REM sleep soon after falling

asleep. You'll end up dreaming during short naps.

Avoid sleep entirely, and you will discover you'll go into a waking state of dreams.

Now, THAT, if anything, might scare the uneducated, since it seems like you're

awake and yet you're "hallucinating" or "receiving" something,

when it's just your body's "emergency dream" system.

I knew that even when I heard victor paul wierwille expounding that nonsense.

I said "he just doesn't remember his dreams" and let it go at that.

It should have been a warning that he made sh* up to cover when he had no idea

about something.

[Bolshevik]

He started with that sort of thing in pfal, when talking about speaking in tongues.

He said it was "rest to the soul", and then began expounding further from there.

. . .

I believe this was mentioned in "The Challenging Counterfeit", people able to work the 3rd shift and stay alert and such. Just a thought that vpw may have heard this from somewhere else. (I don't have my copy of the book handy, otherwise I'd verify what it says.)

[Bolshevik]

I believe this was mentioned in "The Challenging Counterfeit", people able to work the 3rd shift and stay alert and such. Just a thought that vpw may have heard this from somewhere else. (I don't have my copy of the book handy, otherwise I'd verify what it says.)

actually, I think it was "they speak with other tongues", by Sherrill.

Edited March 7, 2010 by Bolshevik

[bliss]

Maybe kind of a silly point, but I remember that "no dreaming" teaching as well. So I condemned myself for years because I dream a lot. Then one day I was sitting in my living room and my dog was sleeping on the floor. At one point her little paws started moving and she started very softly barking. My dog was dreaming about something and I thought, "Hmm...is my dog out of fellowship? Does she have unresolved issues from her childhood that she hasn't worked out? Then I wondered what she could possibly be dreaming about. Perhaps, in her dream, the mailman actually stayed on the porch instead of leaving. Maybe the mutt next door ate her bowl of Alpo.

Obviously God can talk to someone any way He wants. I just don't think we should laud it too high.

ROLFLMAO!!

thanks Sir G for the quotes.

Thanks for all the responses. I know it was taught at some point, just didn' t know how far back , and what was the point.

I am so glad to be out of that sess pool of dung.

I love my ''religious'' life now.....♥

[cheranne]

Dreams/Follow Your Bliss Quotes

Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius,

power and magic in it. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

When men dream, each has his own world. When they are awake, they have

a common world. - Heraclitus

Dreams are necessary to life. - Anais Nin

Follow your bliss. - Joseph Campbell

Life shrinks or expands in proportion to your courage. - Anais Nin

It's not only what we do but also what we do not do for which we are

accountable. - Moliere.

Our life is what our thoughts make it. - Marcus Aurelius

First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do. -

Epictetus

Dreams are necessary to life. - Anais Nin

Hitch your wagon to a star. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. -

Eleanor Roosevelt

If you can dream it, you can do it. - Walt Disney

Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. - Les

Brown

Imagine. - John Lennon

Careful what you set your heart upon. For it surely shall be yours. - Ralph

Waldo Emerson

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. -William Blake

Far away there in the sunshine are my highest aspirations.

I may not reach them, but I can look up and see their beauty, believe in

them, and try to follow where they lead. - Louisa May Alcott

Within your heart, keep one still, secret spot where dreams may go.- Louise

Driscoll

The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.-Paul Valery

Don't be afraid of the space between your dreams and reality. If you can

dream it, you can make it so.-Belva Davis

Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become. -James Allen

There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream

of things that never were, and ask why not?--Robert F. Kennedy

When you have a dream you've got to grab it and never let go. - Carol

Burnett

Hitch your wagon to a star. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to

do. - Epictetus

We need time to dream, time to remember, and time to reach the

infinite. Time to be. - Gladys Taber

Dreams are what get you started. Discipline is what keeps you going. - Jim Ryan

When your heart is in your dream,

no request is too extreme. - Jiminy Cricket

What do you pack to pursue a dream? And what do you leave behind? - Sandra Sharp

If somebody believes in you, and you believe in your dreams, it can

happen. - Tiffany Bangs

We must teach our children to dream with open eyes. - Harry Edwards

Longing performs all things. - Mary Renault

We know not where our dreams will take us, but we can probably see

quite clearly where we’ll go without them. - Marilyn Grey

Dreams come a size too big so that we can grow into them. - Josie Bisset

If one is lucky, a solitary fantasy can totally transform one million

realities. - Maya Angelou

It takes as much energy to wish as it does to plan. - Eleanor Roosevelt

If you don’t have a dream, how can you have a dream come true? – Faye LaPointe

Dreams come true; without that possibility, nature would not incite us

to have them. -John Updike

Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far

one can go. - T. S. Eliot

We are the music makers. We are the dreamers of the dreams. - Arthur

O’Shaughnessy

Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those

who dream only by night. - Edgar Allen Poe

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. - Oscar Wilde

Yes, I am a dreamer. For a dreamer is one who can find his way by

moonlight, and see the dawn before the rest of the world. - Oscar

Wilde

Between our dreams and our actions, there’s this world. - Bruce Springsteen

All successful people men and women are big dreamers. They imagine

what their future could be, ideal in every respect, and then they work

every day toward their distant vision, that goal or purpose.—Brian

Tracy

Always dream and shoot higher than you know you can do. Don’t bother

just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be

better than yourself.—William Faulkner

Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of

men.—Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

The dream was always running ahead of me. To catch up, to live for a

moment in unison with it, that was the miracle.—Anais Nin

Dreams are renewable. No matter what our age or condition, there are

still untapped possibilities within us and new beauty waiting to be

born.—Dale E. Turner

Dreams are the touchstones of our character.—Henry David Thoreau

Dreams do come true, if we only wish hard enough, Sir James M. Barrie

I have learned, that if one advances confidently in the direction of

his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will

meet with a success unexpected in common hours.—Henry David Thoreau

If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you

can become it.—William Arthur Ward

In the long run, men hit only what they aim at. Therefore, they had

better aim at something high.—Henry David Thoreau

It may be those who do most, dream most.—Stephen Leacock

Living in dreams of yesterday, we find ourselves still dreaming of

impossible future conquests.—Charles Lindbergh

Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men’s blood ... Make

big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel Hudson Burnham

The more you can dream, the more you can do.—Michael Korda

There are people who put their dreams in a little box and say, “Yes,

I’ve got dreams, of course I’ve got dreams.” Then they put the box

away and bring it out once in awhile to look in it, and yep, they’re

still there. These are great dreams, but they never even get out of

the box. It takes an uncommon amount of guts to put your dreams on the

line, to hold them up and say, “How good or how bad am I?” That’s

where courage comes in.—Erma Bombeck

You gotta have a dream. If you don’t have a dream, how you gonna make

a dream come true?--Oscar Hammerstein II (South Pacific)

I’ll toss my coins in the fountain

Look for clovers in grassy lawns

Search for shooting stars in the night

Cross my fingers and dream on. -Tracy Chapman

Dare to be wrong and to dream. - Frederick von Schiller

[Bolshevik]

happy happy birthday, from all of us to you

happy happy birthday, may all your dreams prayers come true.

[waterbuffalo]

Dreams are one of the ways God can speak to us.

OF COURSE W. didn't want us to dream.

[year2027]

God first

thanks everybody

dreams one many places

1. a proven that your minds for an answer

2. the of a show that you thinking about the power was lost and see the end

3. a show enjoy must you added to it

4. from God Holy Spirit to share with you

5. A fear trying get away from something

6. something you love and you can get enough

the Way was wrong because are a way to talk with yourself/Holy Spirit

there a natural part of life

like birth and death are

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[Twinky]

Donna also taught that having a quick shower might perk you up better than a quick nap.

See, you really don't need sleep at all, just SIT and shower a lot.

Didn't they also teach that dreams often meant visions (= revelation), and you were fully conscious during them, watching like watching a movie? As opposed to dreams, where you have little or no conscious involvement?

"Your sleep may be sweet" I always took to mean "sleep may be refreshing and undisturbed by nightmares" not undisturbed by dreams.

[newlife]

Dreams.....I know I quit dreaming when I was in TWI...

I know I was sharing a bedroom with a twig leader...and she would wake me up if I was dreaming and would say, "Get into fellowship, you were dreaming".....I didn't want to go back to sleep just out of fear! This happened lots over time. Somewhere along the way, I did quit dreaming though.

Now I dream, good and bad and I don't think too much about it.

Yes, Bol...the Happy Birthday song....I laughed.....we did sing, "may all your dreams come true" didn't we?

[JeffSjo]

Bumped to be kept next to the other dream thread.