Interesting TWI Connection with IRS Bomber in TX

[Ham]

I'm all for not trusting the government. That is as American as apple pie. But, egads, talk about going off the deep end. What I find ironic is our founding Father's fought a revolution and established a free, constitutional republic. The Way International does not advocate getting involved in the proper, civil channels for changing things for the better and they shun any political activity as "worldly." So instead they want to go around acting like they are God's little cornfield militia.

For the record, the paranoia remains deeply entrenched in the upper echelon cornfield leadership. However, the paranoia seems more directed at some disgruntled person coming after Rosalie or one of her lapdogs. Guilty conscience perhaps? I doubt it, but I do find it amusing. To my knowledge, no one is actively pursuing all the pseudo-revolutionary non-sense that Wierwille and other's were after in the mid to late seventies.

Perhaps it isn't conscience. Maybe they are well aware of what kind of lunatics the turned some of the corps into, if they weren't nuts to begin with.. people who would just "off" somebody for *bothering* the craigster..

Perhaps. maybe the paranoia is more like the fear good *doctor* Frankenstein had, moments before the creature of his own making strangled the life out of him..

Oh, for the record. My previous comments were not intended to be heartless.. I feel for the victims of this as well..

the whole point was: isn't the odds of the name of an offbeat, defunct little known cult showing up along side an event like this, kinda astronomical?

Lessee what kind of spin they will put to this..

[OldSkool]

the whole point was: isn't the odds of the name of an offbeat, defunct little known cult showing up along side an event like this, kinda astronomical?

Lessee what kind of spin they will put to this..

Yes it is. They will take any positive press and laud it to the stars at the noon meal at HQ. Wonder if this will come up at all? or if they will try to ignore it. They could put the standard "whether in truth or contention, Christ is preached" out of context scriptural spin on the whole affair. Or the "it's the adversary attacking us by....insert diabolical action here....." crap on it. Either way, reality is lost on them. Also all the negative effects they leave on people is lost on them as well. Sooner or later a day of reckoning will come.

[cheranne]

In speaking on the "fringe element" at twi......a little bit of history is in order. Back in 1975-79, wierwille and co. were purporting paranoia and conspiracy theories involving our federal government. From the wierwille camp and corps coordinator podiums, the way corps HAD to devise a secret location in the event that the "Red Dawn" happened (government overthrow, foreign or domestic). All MAL-paks (more abundant living backpacks) were cross-checked by twi leadership to have all supplies necessary.

While inresidence, I remember two "Red Alerts" to guage the response and readiness of the corps. We were to meet in top floor Wierwille Library in ten minutes for briefing of "the emergency." At times, there were hush-hush instructions given to others on a "need to know" basis.

To the corps, wierwille publically stated that if cult hysteria continued to build, the corps would be the first to be hunted down by the FBI and government authorities. And, anyone who spent any time around any of wierwille's bodyguards got a heavy dose of paranoia and government distrust. Add to this, the mandatory assigning of 4-hour "bless patrol" to the corps, the red-alerts, the regimentation of following commands, the "us versus them" teachings and training, and lockbox teaching all feed these fringes.

One of the family corps guys, FC-7......was a military veteran and munitions specialist. At the rock of ages events, we were assigned near each other through the years. In 1982, one of his roa duties was to crawl under the main stage daily and inspect it for bombs or other threats.....wierwille personally gave him this assignment.

The corps indoctrination immersed many of us into this paranoid/suspicious mindset.

Good Point!

[nyunknown]

I can just imagine. If the new media, the FBI, The department of homeland security and other goverment agencies looks into the TWI. What skeltons could they find! Oh man! Then rosie would say. We had nothing to do Joseph stacks! What entertainment that would be!

[cheranne]

This was in The Austin Newspaper (I noticed he used the word "brainwashed". and

wasn't Senator Moyniham also a grad of PFAL)not that Joe Stack was in The Way International.

The site has since been pulled down, apparently at the request of the

FBI. Text follows:

If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this

have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has

been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months

ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization

that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is

really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with

example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing

it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my

gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the

storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m

not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no

society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this

country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our

dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We

are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this

place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble

principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these

was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years

of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my

childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal

is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair

share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great

degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote

on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for

that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I

have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit

unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for

scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash

under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the

force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their

aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call

the American medical system, including the drug and insurance

companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and

stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s

leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their

vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves,

liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless

time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the

“terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long

as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits

rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum

in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system?

Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the

brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly

“holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for

fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law

“requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can

say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s

not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a

totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the

early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school,

somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I

could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to

a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions.

In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful

“exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic

Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the

help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the

business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing

(except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the

government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a

great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules,

exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a

much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of

organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest

living. However, this is where I learned that there are two

“interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for

the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and

enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in

this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my

life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for

the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based

on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how

naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American

public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their

“freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the

face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of

them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the

first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984

after making my way through engineering school and still another five

years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of

launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should

digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination

for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very

young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my

early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my

own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My

neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at

that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her

husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central

Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for

his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to

look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands

who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt

union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and

stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living

on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to

splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and

heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after

all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely

appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with

each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion

tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like

her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and

bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I

decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that

I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as

a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer... and two years

later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy

executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought

us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York

Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act

with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section

1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers)

for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report

(http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport)

regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant

parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws

affect technical services workers and their clients, read our

discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by

adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an

individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and

another person, provides services for such other person as an

engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or

other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply

to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

· "another person" is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.

· "taxpayer" is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.

· "individual", "employee", or "worker" is you.

Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is

saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may

as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover,

they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and

directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years

later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at

least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any

senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did,

and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I

spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any

and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to

mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that

our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers

who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration

of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was

spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile

exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a

pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to

enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This

immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the

regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of

course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle.

If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering

and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A.

depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t

need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern

California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was

economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized

Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one

gave a dang about all of the young families who lost their homes or

street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan

companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall.

Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle

trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once

again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust

and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were

grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that,

‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for

months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive.

Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of

the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me

to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies

WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not

quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to

California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out

that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance

and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never

experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I

was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the

three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to

drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice

department is all on the take and doesn’t give a .... about serving

anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the

last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth

expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that

year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need.

The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t

notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I

attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no

longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend

over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world,

following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another

accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a

boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new

business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After

considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to

get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were

in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and

he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except

that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported

income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all

along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it

out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally

evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend

transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at

least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I

never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever

matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great”

depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping

out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything.

Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that

they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal

from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a

joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the

wealthy .... up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a

clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as

a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent

presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years

certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally

true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body

count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the

government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to

bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand.

It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their

freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor

immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are

sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body

to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep

looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass,

I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to

pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white

washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it

will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve

that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government

reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people

wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their

mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire

life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the

answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big

chunks of dang at the top have known this all along and have been

laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all

along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the

same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be

different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big

Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh

and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each

according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each

according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

[Tzaia]

For being an intelligent guy - he wasn't all that smart.

[waysider]

Very sad, indeed.

Just like living on a steady diet of Twinkies can have an adverse effect on one's physical health, feeding on a steady diet of misdirected political diatribes, spewed forth by political extremists, can have an adverse effect on one's mental health. If you knew how many people feed on such a diet, while the caterers are raking in multi-million dollar salaries, it would scare the beejeebers out of you.

Still, I think the wife has been given an unfair shake in all this by the media pointing to a seemingly irrelevent cult connection on her part.

[Ham]

Very sad, indeed.

Just like living on a steady diet of Twinkies can have an adverse effect on one's physical health, feeding on a steady diet of misdirected political diatribes, spewed forth by political extremists, can have an adverse effect on one's mental health. If you knew how many people feed on such a diet, while the caterers are raking in multi-million dollar salaries, it would scare the beejeebers out of you.

Still, I think the wife has been given an unfair shake in all this by the media pointing to a seemingly irrelevent cult connection on her part.

If I were her.. I'd be 100 percent transparent..

"ya wanna know something..? well.. they have a web site..

It would put the *burden* of transparency where it belongs..

[Ham]

see.. they are going to have to explain 1976 what with what what would I call it..

the relevance of 1976 paranoia with the paranoia of the new century..

no, it hasn't moved an inch..

but who cares anyway.. its a small cult..only a couple hundred rounds of armor, and watchful dedication between *us* and *them*..

interesting.. well, human behavior is fascinating..

[Ham]

I had a political science professor..

now I see what he was talking about.

It absolutely BLEW his MIND that other human beings would take aim at one another..

sorry.. as "human behaviour".. I have to distance myself..

I hope you all do the same..

sorry.. *we* are.. for the lack of better words.. "screwed up".

[cheranne]

what Ham said go to the website ! If the media digs deep enough

all kinds of skeletons are going to pop out of there concerning The Way International.

[mstar1]

So according to Stack this all started in the 1980's when friends

introduced him to a group of people who held meetings with 'readings and discussions' and who among other things had great disdain for the 'vulgar and corrupt Catholic Church'............

Gees...... where have I heard of some group like that before?

its right on the tip of my tongue somewhere...

just sayin

Edited February 22, 2010 by mstar1

[TheHighWay]

Is it just me or does it sound like this guy spent his whole adult life trying to thwart the system, only to get angrier and angrier when they caught him doing it again and again?

[Tzaia]

Is it just me or does it sound like this guy spent his whole adult life trying to thwart the system, only to get angrier and angrier when they caught him doing it again and again?

ummm, yeah, it's not just you.

Edited February 22, 2010 by Tzaia

[cheranne]

So according to Stack this all started in the 1980's when friends

introduced him to a group of people who held meetings with 'readings and discussions' and who among other things had great disdain for the 'vulgar and corrupt Catholic Church'............

Gees...... where have I heard of some group like that before?

its right on the tip of my tongue somewhere...

just sayin

Yeah! I hear that sounds familiar too!

[GarthP2000]

Looks like the Mad Anti-IRS Bomber's daughter has backed down on her daddy being an All-American hero.

Hell, that _anybody_ can consider that whackjob, cornfield, terrorist to be any kind of hero, should make them eligible for maximum security psychiatric facility.

P.S., yeah, yeah, I know. The link comes from one of the Big Three Mainstream Commie News Media. So sue me.

[nandon]

I'll be expecting the Tax Hike to pay for a new IRS Building anytime now....

exactly.

there is no excuse for violence, but there is also no excuse for stealing, which happens. The irs is criminal at times.

I don't know the details of this particular case, but there is no doubt this guy was insane.

and no, i don't feel bad when individuals i do not know die. They had no impact on my life and I would rather spend my emotional capital on family and friends.

this goes for the irs agent, the luger, or any other person I don't know.

Thousands die per month in the Congo, battling over a mineral we use in our cell phones, and nobody seems to care about that.

[Ham]

exactly.

there is no excuse for violence, but there is also no excuse for stealing, which happens. The irs is criminal at times.

I don't know the details of this particular case, but there is no doubt this guy was insane.

and no, i don't feel bad when individuals i do not know die. They had no impact on my life and I would rather spend my emotional capital on family and friends.

this goes for the irs agent, the luger, or any other person I don't know.

Thousands die per month in the Congo, battling over a mineral we use in our cell phones, and nobody seems to care about that.

some of us do..

there are more than a few reasons I absolutely refuse to dump my cellphone and pick up the newest, bestest version without which I can still enjoy the same benefits from using the computer my neighbor threw out, of course after wiping hard drive and all, and installing linux..

*we* at least here.. are so damned *fat* that silver is just lining the streets..

and most can't see it..

[Ham]

The computer I'm using.. cost ONE DAMNED DOLLAR.. no kidding.. and that would have included monitor and keyboard if I wanted them with it..