If this is who I think it is, why no mention of his years of service to the prez as a lapdog in a crazy
little cult. He also can add that he packs a gun and is not afraid to flash it. Will do anything to get the sale because he has done many things in his past to help Craig cover up. Why no mention of a no debt policy.
If I am wrong and have the wrong person, I am sorry.
having trouble with the link a little help if this is him... anyone
If this is who I think it is, why no mention of his years of service to the prez as a lapdog in a crazy
little cult. He also can add that he packs a gun and is not afraid to flash it. Will do anything to get the sale because he has done many things in his past to help Craig cover up. Why no mention of a no debt policy.
If I am wrong and have the wrong person, I am sorry.
having trouble with the link a little help if this is him... anyone
HE bought a house in 83 and then did he have to give it up because of the no debt policy...
Volunteer fireman??? for TWI? Does this really count as being a fireman if it is for a private property!
this brings up lots of questions!
Does any one else find it Ironic that this guy who is part of an organization that pushed people to sell their homes because you supposedly should have no debt, is now a real estate agent?
Does any one else find it Ironic that this guy who is part of an organization that pushed people to sell their homes because you supposedly should have no debt, is now a real estate agent?
What's really funny are his listings. $600,000 for a house in New Bremen, OH. Bwaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaa!
HE bought a house in 83 and then did he have to give it up because of the no debt policy...
Volunteer fireman??? for TWI? Does this really count as being a fireman if it is for a private property!
this brings up lots of questions!
Does any one else find it Ironic that this guy who is part of an organization that pushed people to sell their homes because you supposedly should have no debt, is now a real estate agent?
I believe large businesses have "volunteer firemen" and first responders.
If he's in real estate around wayworld he's got inside knowledge on loopholes for no debt. And he can moonlight off the local wayfers.
HE bought a house in 83 and then did he have to give it up because of the no debt policy...
Volunteer fireman??? for TWI? Does this really count as being a fireman if it is for a private property!
this brings up lots of questions!
Does any one else find it Ironic that this guy who is part of an organization that pushed people to sell their homes because you supposedly should have no debt, is now a real estate agent?
It's only those who are of the household of those of the prevailing word have to prevail in perfectness. Everybody else keeps the economy moving by buying houses, which normally require mortgages.
I don't have any personal ax to grind with the fella.. but really, if I was him.. I would reconsider having my home address on a web site..
so apparently he's "moved on"?
Sounds like his less aged, and less pudgy (for now) counterpart has taken his place at da way..
If I were you fella.. I'd run as far from new knoxville as I could.. likely with the economy, in thirty or so years, you won't have the luxury of finding anyone able to even buy houses..
I seriously doubt he's "moved on". More likely this is the case with many old time staffers - they are reaching the age where they are approaching retirement, and TWI has done absolutely nothing to help them, doesn't pay them enough to send their kids to college except for "Bowling Green" by their income being welfare level and qualifying them for Pell grants, and will not support them in old age. So a lot of them have started "moonlighting" around doing jobs when they are not working. It's really a bit pathetic - those that have abused so many others, they've built nothing up for themselves.
I seriously doubt he's "moved on". More likely this is the case with many old time staffers - they are reaching the age where they are approaching retirement, and TWI has done absolutely nothing to help them, doesn't pay them enough to send their kids to college except for "Bowling Green" by their income being welfare level and qualifying them for Pell grants, and will not support them in old age. So a lot of them have started "moonlighting" around doing jobs when they are not working. It's really a bit pathetic - those that have abused so many others, they've built nothing up for themselves.
So we can expect Joe Coulter to moonlight as a cable guy?
Ah come on. How on earth would he have time for any "moonlighting"? Isn't he too busy cutting the grass with nail clippers or some such useless task?
Could this mean (cough) that he has been kicked out?
I loved the bit where he said he had a "BS in Administration." Sure does. So much BS at TWI.
I don't know his current status with TWI. I heard rumors that staff people were taking on side jobs to compensate for their lack of compensation and retirement. He was over security which includes shift work, so could moonlight on a day job.
I knew several people working part time jobs when I was there, and let me tell you what, Rosalie absolutely HATES it. Actually, Linder's gig leans towards the "professional" end of things. Most staffers wind up at some place like walmart, you get the idea.
I knew several people working part time jobs when I was there, and let me tell you what, Rosalie absolutely HATES it. Actually, Linder's gig leans towards the "professional" end of things. Most staffers wind up at some place like walmart, you get the idea.
WOW.......guess I've been gone a long time now. Back whenever, moonlighting was strictly forbidden. In fact, during the late 70s......a staffer couldn't even sell their chicken eggs on the side. Wierwille proudly boasted that all staffers lived on a "need basis"....and twi met that need.
So........once a staffer puts in their time at twi, like Lind3r, he can go be a part-time cop or a real estate guy headed to an appointment? And, this fulfills his "spiritual duty" as a staffer?? If he's got that much time on his hands.....WHAT ABOUT WITNESSING? WHAT ABOUT RUNNING CLASSES?
Back in the day......staffers were supposedly committed to serving at hq above and beyond the call of duty to move the word (blah, blah). No time for witnessing. No need to moonlight.
So.....why should a field person keep on the drumbeat of classes? witnessing? twig coord meetings? Why pour their hard-earned money into twi's coffers? The field innies have EVERY REASON to work extra hours, secure a second job (if they like) skip witnessing branch nights, etc......right? I know that I'm using some logic here, so it might not be effective in asking these questions.
I knew several people working part time jobs when I was there, and let me tell you what, Rosalie absolutely HATES it. Actually, Linder's gig leans towards the "professional" end of things. Most staffers wind up at some place like walmart, you get the idea.
Rosalie is a liar. She talks out of one side of her mouth about how she HATES people working part time jobs, and then out of the other side of her mouth when discussing benefits and compensation for staff that actually meet their need as opposed to scaling down the # of staff positions and paying them better.
What she really wants by the fruit evident in her life is people to be in bondage to a controlling system that she is in charge of.
Why people who live in a free country allow themselves to be placed under that kind of false authority is beyond me. People only have authority over you if you accept it.
So we can expect Joe Coulter to moonlight as a cable guy?
wouldn't surprise me..
thankfully, at this point, I have not had to do this..
but if you have to be the cable guy, BE the cable guy..
I'm thinking of the last one that came here. "fella.. there are twenty splices between here and the pole. We need a solid DC connection to the source for it to work.. any one of these splices could mess it up. just replace the damn wire.."
would he do it? Nooooo...
because the numbnuts would not listen.. he had to endure the harassment and ridicule from the lady of the house..
Oh.. yes. That was the next visit.. because the system still did not reliably function, after he left..
Rosalie is a liar. She talks out of one side of her mouth about how she HATES people working part time jobs, and then out of the other side of her mouth when discussing benefits and compensation for staff that actually meet their need as opposed to scaling down the # of staff positions and paying them better.
What she really wants by the fruit evident in her life is people to be in bondage to a controlling system that she is in charge of.
Why people who live in a free country allow themselves to be placed under that kind of false authority is beyond me. People only have authority over you if you accept it.
They scaled back a lot of positions in many departments over the past few years. They did give a pay increase a couple years ago. Rosalie announced it and then immediately in the next breath announced an increase in rent for on grounds housing. Se hates moonlighting and has the same rhetoric that Wierwille hatched but she will not do anything because of laws. The Allen lawsuit really changed how they operate and interface with the staff. Rosalie hates that too. I heard her say "she hates all the changes that have happened in recent years." I am paraphrasing but she said what she said.
You are so right about their lack of real authority. As soon as a person realizes that the way international is powerless to control anyones life without their consent the bondage over.
WOW.......guess I've been gone a long time now. Back whenever, moonlighting was strictly forbidden. In fact, during the late 70s......a staffer couldn't even sell their chicken eggs on the side. Wierwille proudly boasted that all staffers lived on a "need basis"....and twi met that need.
So........once a staffer puts in their time at twi, like Lind3r, he can go be a part-time cop or a real estate guy headed to an appointment? And, this fulfills his "spiritual duty" as a staffer?? If he's got that much time on his hands.....WHAT ABOUT WITNESSING? WHAT ABOUT RUNNING CLASSES?
Back in the day......staffers were supposedly committed to serving at hq above and beyond the call of duty to move the word (blah, blah). No time for witnessing. No need to moonlight.
So.....why should a field person keep on the drumbeat of classes? witnessing? twig coord meetings? Why pour their hard-earned money into twi's coffers? The field innies have EVERY REASON to work extra hours, secure a second job (if they like) skip witnessing branch nights, etc......right? I know that I'm using some logic here, so it might not be effective in asking these questions.
Oh well......
Well, the 46 hour work week pretty much canned all the work as many hours as you are told crap. About the same time the 46 hours came along they also did away with the need basis junk too. Staff are paid a "salary" and it's a pretty lousy salary at that. You get a really lame insurance plan that has less coverage than a mini-med, it even has lifetime limits that are really low. As soon as you go over the lifetime limit you are "unofficially" shown how to get Medicaid. So that should speak volumes regarding the low, crappy pay.
Let's explore the salary concept according to TWI. 46 hours a week is sold as being a salaried worker according to hourly pay. It's really not a salary at all. They pay people the absolute lowest they can for 40 hours and pay time and 1/2 for 6 hours. I suspect this is their way of masking the fact that most of the jobs at HQ are at minimum wage. How do I know you may ask? I saw minimum wage increases result in "raises" for many staffers.
Classes are run for the staff usually by cabinet area. Witnessing doesn't happen and isn't required for staff. The logic, if you call it that, is working your staff job is moving the word and being on staff you are serving in an increased capacity. I know, the whole ministry of reconciliation spiel that people on the field are fed conveniently goes out the window.
Remember how Wierwille got up in arms about people wanting to run bake sales, car washes, etc., to fund local activities? "Wouldn't reflect well on God's ability to supply abundance." (cough) I suppose he's rolling over in his grave with this new trend of moonlighters.
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HE bought a house in 83 and then did he have to give it up because of the no debt policy... Volunteer fireman??? for TWI? Does this really count as being a fireman if it is for a private property! t
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yep that's the L man.
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gahhhh..
I almost choked laughing..
maybe its some newfangled definition of "service"..
or one of the older ones..
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Somebody please pass me a beer . . . lol
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HE bought a house in 83 and then did he have to give it up because of the no debt policy...
Volunteer fireman??? for TWI? Does this really count as being a fireman if it is for a private property!
this brings up lots of questions!
Does any one else find it Ironic that this guy who is part of an organization that pushed people to sell their homes because you supposedly should have no debt, is now a real estate agent?
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What's really funny are his listings. $600,000 for a house in New Bremen, OH. Bwaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaa!
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With Crown and Dannon around he will get it too. But, yep that's John alright.
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I believe large businesses have "volunteer firemen" and first responders.
If he's in real estate around wayworld he's got inside knowledge on loopholes for no debt. And he can moonlight off the local wayfers.
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It's only those who are of the household of those of the prevailing word have to prevail in perfectness. Everybody else keeps the economy moving by buying houses, which normally require mortgages.
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I don't have any personal ax to grind with the fella.. but really, if I was him.. I would reconsider having my home address on a web site..
so apparently he's "moved on"?
Sounds like his less aged, and less pudgy (for now) counterpart has taken his place at da way..
If I were you fella.. I'd run as far from new knoxville as I could.. likely with the economy, in thirty or so years, you won't have the luxury of finding anyone able to even buy houses..
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I seriously doubt he's "moved on". More likely this is the case with many old time staffers - they are reaching the age where they are approaching retirement, and TWI has done absolutely nothing to help them, doesn't pay them enough to send their kids to college except for "Bowling Green" by their income being welfare level and qualifying them for Pell grants, and will not support them in old age. So a lot of them have started "moonlighting" around doing jobs when they are not working. It's really a bit pathetic - those that have abused so many others, they've built nothing up for themselves.
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Ah come on. How on earth would he have time for any "moonlighting"? Isn't he too busy cutting the grass with nail clippers or some such useless task?
Could this mean (cough) that he has been kicked out?
I loved the bit where he said he had a "BS in Administration." Sure does. So much BS at TWI.
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So we can expect Joe Coulter to moonlight as a cable guy?
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Wow... Never thought I'd see the day.
All this time I thought good ol' Linder would rot at HQ, which I figured would be a just reward..
Wonder if TWI still pays him under the table to keep the closet doors shut on ol' skeletons.
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I don't know his current status with TWI. I heard rumors that staff people were taking on side jobs to compensate for their lack of compensation and retirement. He was over security which includes shift work, so could moonlight on a day job.
But yeah, he's been a major tool for decades.
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It's common for people at Hq. and Limb coords. Mr. Linder always had a part time cop job.
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I knew several people working part time jobs when I was there, and let me tell you what, Rosalie absolutely HATES it. Actually, Linder's gig leans towards the "professional" end of things. Most staffers wind up at some place like walmart, you get the idea.
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WOW.......guess I've been gone a long time now. Back whenever, moonlighting was strictly forbidden. In fact, during the late 70s......a staffer couldn't even sell their chicken eggs on the side. Wierwille proudly boasted that all staffers lived on a "need basis"....and twi met that need.
So........once a staffer puts in their time at twi, like Lind3r, he can go be a part-time cop or a real estate guy headed to an appointment? And, this fulfills his "spiritual duty" as a staffer?? If he's got that much time on his hands.....WHAT ABOUT WITNESSING? WHAT ABOUT RUNNING CLASSES?
Back in the day......staffers were supposedly committed to serving at hq above and beyond the call of duty to move the word (blah, blah). No time for witnessing. No need to moonlight.
So.....why should a field person keep on the drumbeat of classes? witnessing? twig coord meetings? Why pour their hard-earned money into twi's coffers? The field innies have EVERY REASON to work extra hours, secure a second job (if they like) skip witnessing branch nights, etc......right? I know that I'm using some logic here, so it might not be effective in asking these questions.
Oh well......
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Rosalie is a liar. She talks out of one side of her mouth about how she HATES people working part time jobs, and then out of the other side of her mouth when discussing benefits and compensation for staff that actually meet their need as opposed to scaling down the # of staff positions and paying them better.
What she really wants by the fruit evident in her life is people to be in bondage to a controlling system that she is in charge of.
Why people who live in a free country allow themselves to be placed under that kind of false authority is beyond me. People only have authority over you if you accept it.
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wouldn't surprise me..
thankfully, at this point, I have not had to do this..
but if you have to be the cable guy, BE the cable guy..
I'm thinking of the last one that came here. "fella.. there are twenty splices between here and the pole. We need a solid DC connection to the source for it to work.. any one of these splices could mess it up. just replace the damn wire.."
would he do it? Nooooo...
because the numbnuts would not listen.. he had to endure the harassment and ridicule from the lady of the house..
Oh.. yes. That was the next visit.. because the system still did not reliably function, after he left..
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Joe..
just replace the wire. Even in mucking about in the dead of winter stringing wire.. is far better than the alternative..
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The next guy they sent was a *specialist*. He replaced the wire..
I told the lady of the house.. be nice to the next guy.. he is supposed to know what he is doing.
christ.. I worked on this stuff for over twenty years..
Joe, listen to the little guy who says.. "just replace the wire.."
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They scaled back a lot of positions in many departments over the past few years. They did give a pay increase a couple years ago. Rosalie announced it and then immediately in the next breath announced an increase in rent for on grounds housing. Se hates moonlighting and has the same rhetoric that Wierwille hatched but she will not do anything because of laws. The Allen lawsuit really changed how they operate and interface with the staff. Rosalie hates that too. I heard her say "she hates all the changes that have happened in recent years." I am paraphrasing but she said what she said.
You are so right about their lack of real authority. As soon as a person realizes that the way international is powerless to control anyones life without their consent the bondage over.
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Well, the 46 hour work week pretty much canned all the work as many hours as you are told crap. About the same time the 46 hours came along they also did away with the need basis junk too. Staff are paid a "salary" and it's a pretty lousy salary at that. You get a really lame insurance plan that has less coverage than a mini-med, it even has lifetime limits that are really low. As soon as you go over the lifetime limit you are "unofficially" shown how to get Medicaid. So that should speak volumes regarding the low, crappy pay.
Let's explore the salary concept according to TWI. 46 hours a week is sold as being a salaried worker according to hourly pay. It's really not a salary at all. They pay people the absolute lowest they can for 40 hours and pay time and 1/2 for 6 hours. I suspect this is their way of masking the fact that most of the jobs at HQ are at minimum wage. How do I know you may ask? I saw minimum wage increases result in "raises" for many staffers.
Classes are run for the staff usually by cabinet area. Witnessing doesn't happen and isn't required for staff. The logic, if you call it that, is working your staff job is moving the word and being on staff you are serving in an increased capacity. I know, the whole ministry of reconciliation spiel that people on the field are fed conveniently goes out the window.
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Remember how Wierwille got up in arms about people wanting to run bake sales, car washes, etc., to fund local activities? "Wouldn't reflect well on God's ability to supply abundance." (cough) I suppose he's rolling over in his grave with this new trend of moonlighters.
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