And---why aren't any of the others included or invited who were unceremoniously dropped or fired, and then a party line description was provided by the STF BOD?
and why is it going to take TWO DAYS in MEETINGS to answer a few *simple* questions?
they won't give answers.. they will give TEACHINGS. They've got a whole day and a half to wrap peoples brains around a dozen or so taken out of context, twisted interpretations of a half a dozen sections of scripture or something..
I wonder if they'll start the session with a "believer's meeting".. or something like that..
they'll ring the Pavlovian "biblical" bell.. and most will emerge from that meeting, tears running down their face, sobbing about how the "presentation" was like it was, back in the good old days..
what I further wonder,will it end with some kind of guilt ridden appeal- "well, what are YOU doing to move da wordagawd? It's EASY to sit on the sidelines and criticize those in the "heat of the battle".. taking onslaughts from da debil spirit relm.."
I can almost hear it.. tell me it isn't (or wasn't) so..
me?????..........invited to a ces/stiffy event???????.............ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just get "private" hate e-mails from these offshoot/splinter groups........telling me it's all my fault!....LOL!...........most recently, the owner of your favorite mississippi work farm deposited some of their excess dung my way............boy was that phun..................they lurk here.........they jerk there........but they'll never have the guts to post here and honestly answer the many questions GSC has asked of them through the years.........their wierwille delusions of grandeur still run their lives...........their rationalized guilt and "spiritual revisionism" still give them a "purpose driven life" dedicated to the same old pseudo-intellectual, falsely philosophical, psychosocially dysfunctional, pathological lying collection of plagiarized dogma that gave them "vision" and purpose 30-40 years ago!...........the whole world is wrong, and they're right........facts be damned!...........truths be warped and twisted!..........wierwille's bastardized religion must live on!..........what a hapless psychodrama!....................peace.
i just get "private" hate e-mails from these offshoot/splinter groups........telling me it's all my fault!....LOL!...........most recently, the owner of your favorite mississippi work farm deposited some of their excess dung my way............boy was that phun.
Please share! :)
I'll put on some popcorn.
I'd like to see their version of christianity and the "love" they spread close up...
btw-I am going to Mississippi manana-anybody want I should drop by to say hi?
What I wonder is.. now that they have gone their separate ways.. the graeser's ejected from herr organization, doing gawd knows what besides litigating.. jl off on his own "trip".. and js and a few others keeping the campfire warm..
has anybody every gotten any legitimate ANSWERS?
or just more podcasts.. teachings, and appeals for money and motorcoaches?
When are these guys going to realize that all that secretive/ paranoid/ delusional/ and very unfortunate leadership hiding actually opens them up to control and manipulation instead of protecting them from the enemy as they were taught?
Freakin Wierwille, he had thugs protecting his privilidge to minster, (uh, I mean abuse) many people on a regular basis.
Some of the bretheren of these secretive turds were lost to alcoholism and depression, or worse. After they were cut loose from The Way International with no more than an armed escort and a canned pr statement such as, "He/she just wasn't tough enough" or a blatant lie such as, "He/she was possessed."
But still they persist in the very leadership patterns that allowed them and their peers to be abused in the first place.
Probably a hefty percentage of them still hoping to aquire a larger fiefdom in the twisted kingdom IMO.
To me they just look like stupid goats being led to the slaughter because their captors tell them that they are lions.
When are these guys going to realize that all that secretive/ paranoid/ delusional/ and very unfortunate leadership hiding actually opens them up to control and manipulation instead of protecting them from the enemy as they were taught?
Exactly. Scenario - idiot leader in counseling session:
Leader: Where was the hole in your believing that allowed the adversary into your life?
Waybot: [Looking at floor] I don't know, I can't figure it out.
Leader: Would you like some help?
Waybot: Sure!
Leader: [Opens up the floodgates for a major spew] Spewwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waybot: [Condemned and silent]
Rational Outside Observer: [The adversary came into your life through the front door - was named "Leader"]
What I wonder is.. now that they have gone their separate ways.. the graeser's ejected from herr organization, doing gawd knows what besides litigating.. jl off on his own "trip".. and js and a few others keeping the campfire warm..
has anybody every gotten any legitimate ANSWERS?
or just more podcasts.. teachings, and appeals for money and motorcoaches?
Well STFI ain't perfect, but they are doing a lot of good. IMHO.
Well STFI ain't perfect, but they are doing a lot of good. IMHO.
I, also, caribousam, would like to know what specific good STFI is doing. Is Schoenheit still, in Momentus language, "killing the victim before the victim kills him"?
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And---why aren't any of the others included or invited who were unceremoniously dropped or fired, and then a party line description was provided by the STF BOD?
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and why is it going to take TWO DAYS in MEETINGS to answer a few *simple* questions?
they won't give answers.. they will give TEACHINGS. They've got a whole day and a half to wrap peoples brains around a dozen or so taken out of context, twisted interpretations of a half a dozen sections of scripture or something..
I wonder if they'll start the session with a "believer's meeting".. or something like that..
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the sad thing..
they'll ring the Pavlovian "biblical" bell.. and most will emerge from that meeting, tears running down their face, sobbing about how the "presentation" was like it was, back in the good old days..
what I further wonder,will it end with some kind of guilt ridden appeal- "well, what are YOU doing to move da wordagawd? It's EASY to sit on the sidelines and criticize those in the "heat of the battle".. taking onslaughts from da debil spirit relm.."
I can almost hear it.. tell me it isn't (or wasn't) so..
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what I wonder.. was DWBH invited to this high, holy event..
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hey you kwazy skwirrel!
me?????..........invited to a ces/stiffy event???????.............ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just get "private" hate e-mails from these offshoot/splinter groups........telling me it's all my fault!....LOL!...........most recently, the owner of your favorite mississippi work farm deposited some of their excess dung my way............boy was that phun..................they lurk here.........they jerk there........but they'll never have the guts to post here and honestly answer the many questions GSC has asked of them through the years.........their wierwille delusions of grandeur still run their lives...........their rationalized guilt and "spiritual revisionism" still give them a "purpose driven life" dedicated to the same old pseudo-intellectual, falsely philosophical, psychosocially dysfunctional, pathological lying collection of plagiarized dogma that gave them "vision" and purpose 30-40 years ago!...........the whole world is wrong, and they're right........facts be damned!...........truths be warped and twisted!..........wierwille's bastardized religion must live on!..........what a hapless psychodrama!....................peace.
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Please share! :)
I'll put on some popcorn.
I'd like to see their version of christianity and the "love" they spread close up...
btw-I am going to Mississippi manana-anybody want I should drop by to say hi?
I'll wear my GS T-Shirt
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What I wonder is.. now that they have gone their separate ways.. the graeser's ejected from herr organization, doing gawd knows what besides litigating.. jl off on his own "trip".. and js and a few others keeping the campfire warm..
has anybody every gotten any legitimate ANSWERS?
or just more podcasts.. teachings, and appeals for money and motorcoaches?
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When are these guys going to realize that all that secretive/ paranoid/ delusional/ and very unfortunate leadership hiding actually opens them up to control and manipulation instead of protecting them from the enemy as they were taught?
Freakin Wierwille, he had thugs protecting his privilidge to minster, (uh, I mean abuse) many people on a regular basis.
Some of the bretheren of these secretive turds were lost to alcoholism and depression, or worse. After they were cut loose from The Way International with no more than an armed escort and a canned pr statement such as, "He/she just wasn't tough enough" or a blatant lie such as, "He/she was possessed."
But still they persist in the very leadership patterns that allowed them and their peers to be abused in the first place.
Probably a hefty percentage of them still hoping to aquire a larger fiefdom in the twisted kingdom IMO.
To me they just look like stupid goats being led to the slaughter because their captors tell them that they are lions.
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Good one Jeff.
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Thank you Twinky. :)
I only wish it could through to more and more of them.....sigh.
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Exactly. Scenario - idiot leader in counseling session:
Leader: Where was the hole in your believing that allowed the adversary into your life?
Waybot: [Looking at floor] I don't know, I can't figure it out.
Leader: Would you like some help?
Waybot: Sure!
Leader: [Opens up the floodgates for a major spew] Spewwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waybot: [Condemned and silent]
Rational Outside Observer: [The adversary came into your life through the front door - was named "Leader"]
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These "leaders" will attend the same debriefing that I will..
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vewy, vewy scary, isn't it?
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Well STFI ain't perfect, but they are doing a lot of good. IMHO.
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Could you elaborate?
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fair question..
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I, also, caribousam, would like to know what specific good STFI is doing. Is Schoenheit still, in Momentus language, "killing the victim before the victim kills him"?
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