Yep.. all the while the "elders" are in some smoke filled back room, downing shots of Drambuie and Schnapps, eating pickled pigs feet, and planning to take over the world..
what is "interesting"..
I looked over cff's website.. there is a noticable absence of any link or reference to sowers and such.. and the fellow-laborers page has practically no reference to v2p2. Their history of him leaves him running a "twig" in his old home town..
methinks MAYBE somebody "woke up" in the organization?
If you are right htere Hammerino it is a sad thing.
But it would simply be another example of the lack of transparency that often characterized TWI leadership b.s. in my view.
I mean, (sarcasm warning) God forbid that leadership would ever allow the unwashed, uneducated masses ever know what is really going on.
It seams to me that Paul had one thing going for him certainly, and that was his life was so open and honest that even his critics knew exactly who and what they were going up against. He did not hide anything.
So the TWI tradition of the Word being taught by people who seem to have been in hiding since the first century continues.....sigh (I may be forced to admit that that last crack was BAD!)
Well, they have to fulfill that old "prophesy" (cough), that the "word" will live as long as there are members of the Wierwille family "standing". (whatever that means.)
Nah-he RAN away..SPRINTED for the exits....So much for 'boldly standing', "fearless living" and all the other crap that they pretend to talk about :blink:
...It started warming up just a little but never had a chance to get heated or even interesting or confrontational
He bailed on his word to answer questions pure and simple--either that or The Great V2P2 gave him a talking to and he is hiding like whipped pup
The answer I always got was that we had to remain flexible enough to change as new "truth" came to light.
Is that a real hoot or what?
PFAL was practically engraved in granite.
Yeah - you know - like when we heard God said let their be light - but later "truth" showed it was a UV black light mixed with date rape drugs and Drambuie and that became the standard for social/christian interaction in the cult...coupled with a few thugs (HEY JOHN YOU LARD-AZZ - I ever tell you about what your old lady told me about you in rez?) to make sure "truth" was adhered to.
Chased him away boys,Or maybe all he wanted to do was come here stir some@@@@ and sit back
and read the replies.Maybe vic 2 is sitting back relishing the fact that he must be right to receive so much flak.
Perhaps. I think he is a victim of this carefully designed disgrace.. *they* gave him the *name*, probably stroked his ego with "prophecies" of moghood since he was in the crib.. painted a rosie picture of da way, it was..
I don't think he had a choice in the matter. They made him.. though still a NOVICE.. unmarried, unexperienced, knows little more theology than gramps "heritage"..yet somehow his position is supported by gawd almighty..
The majority of the flack goes to "uncle" mac, pops, and whoever else stroked his fragile ego..
He really thinks gramps is some kind of super-hero. Thinks da way was a mystical, mythical place of goodness before the "bad people" undermined gramps work..
I am not a violent person, however, if you want to make any personal attacks against him, you had best not let me know your true identity. I am willing to fight over comments made about him.Trust me, you really dont want a ....ed off redneck knockin' at your door. Somje people in the sowers program will claim they have seen me me angry. Well, they havent. My intentions here are not to fight though, so lets keep everything respectful and decent.
Crap like you say here only encourages me to want make off color comments about your idol. I'd love the opportunity to plant a foot in your a$$ and my door is the last one you'd ever want to come knockin' on.
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Ham
Yep.. all the while the "elders" are in some smoke filled back room, downing shots of Drambuie and Schnapps, eating pickled pigs feet, and planning to take over the world..
what is "interesting"..
I looked over cff's website.. there is a noticable absence of any link or reference to sowers and such.. and the fellow-laborers page has practically no reference to v2p2. Their history of him leaves him running a "twig" in his old home town..
methinks MAYBE somebody "woke up" in the organization?
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Ham
I could be wrong, but the website looks like the aftermath of some kind of civil war..
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JeffSjo
If you are right htere Hammerino it is a sad thing.
But it would simply be another example of the lack of transparency that often characterized TWI leadership b.s. in my view.
I mean, (sarcasm warning) God forbid that leadership would ever allow the unwashed, uneducated masses ever know what is really going on.
It seams to me that Paul had one thing going for him certainly, and that was his life was so open and honest that even his critics knew exactly who and what they were going up against. He did not hide anything.
So the TWI tradition of the Word being taught by people who seem to have been in hiding since the first century continues.....sigh (I may be forced to admit that that last crack was BAD!)
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Broken Arrow
Ugh! How sickening...but you're probably correct.
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year2027
God first
hi S.O.W.E.R.S Grad 09
VPW lie to me many times but it is not about a dead man who has nothing to say
I do not know how you see a dead unless you mean his son
it does not matter to me
its vain and a wasted of my time
hope you wise up until I guess you can find me because you act big under the title of S.O.W.E.R.S Grad 09 not your real name mine is Roy Perry III
love Roy
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God first
hi Caleb or S.O.W.E.R.S Grad 09
I see it was VPW son you were talking about at first
I see you left the Way ministry a very smart to do
but lets not talk VPW son he can talk for himself
so your just out of school and you do not know must about life
I can understand that
tell more about you
I care nothing about the Way ministry or a man son that not here
love Roy
PS I left the first post because I hide nothing
love Roy
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mstar1
O Caleb
Its been almost two months--
come up with any answers yet?
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JeffSjo
Wouldn't it be nice if Caleb told us he was ok, or that his intentions have changed, or any other kind of follow up?
Maybe it just didn't work out for him as he anticipated.
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waysider
He's probably trying to squeeze us into his busy schedule------somewhere between rinsing Mung Bean sprouts and soaking wheat berries.
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Ham
If I knew his parents, I'd ask them if he's ok or something..
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mstar1
I'd like to know he is OK too
He might be on double secret probation
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frank123lol
Chased him away boys,Or maybe all he wanted to do was come here stir some@@@@ and sit back
and read the replies.Maybe vic 2 is sitting back relishing the fact that he must be right to receive so much flak.
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Nah-he RAN away..SPRINTED for the exits....So much for 'boldly standing', "fearless living" and all the other crap that they pretend to talk about :blink:
...It started warming up just a little but never had a chance to get heated or even interesting or confrontational
He bailed on his word to answer questions pure and simple--either that or The Great V2P2 gave him a talking to and he is hiding like whipped pup
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waysider
Oh, I don't know.
Maybe he's just been real busy putting all those upper case VP's and lower case vp's in his study Bible.
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Bolshevik
I would occasionally ask "Why the hell doesn't twi publish they're own bibles?"
lower case, upper case, lower case, upper case, "also" comes before or after?
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waysider
Yeah. I used to ask that question too.
The answer I always got was that we had to remain flexible enough to change as new "truth" came to light.
Is that a real hoot or what?
PFAL was practically engraved in granite.
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RumRunner
Yeah - you know - like when we heard God said let their be light - but later "truth" showed it was a UV black light mixed with date rape drugs and Drambuie and that became the standard for social/christian interaction in the cult...coupled with a few thugs (HEY JOHN YOU LARD-AZZ - I ever tell you about what your old lady told me about you in rez?) to make sure "truth" was adhered to.
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waysider
I suppose we ought to lighten up in case the kid is looking in.
Wouldn't want him to get the impression he's following the legacy of a bunch of drunken rapists or somethin'.
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RumRunner
Why not? Although I would add drunken and deliberate rapists
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Ham
Perhaps. I think he is a victim of this carefully designed disgrace.. *they* gave him the *name*, probably stroked his ego with "prophecies" of moghood since he was in the crib.. painted a rosie picture of da way, it was..
I don't think he had a choice in the matter. They made him.. though still a NOVICE.. unmarried, unexperienced, knows little more theology than gramps "heritage"..yet somehow his position is supported by gawd almighty..
The majority of the flack goes to "uncle" mac, pops, and whoever else stroked his fragile ego..
He really thinks gramps is some kind of super-hero. Thinks da way was a mystical, mythical place of goodness before the "bad people" undermined gramps work..
yeah, they made him.
I wonder what his ma thinks..
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frank123lol
Yeah,you are right it is the ones behind him,They(dad,Mac old guys)will not explain themselves,they are so spurtual.
No taxes,live off the followers,good retirement plan.
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mstar1
Still waiting...
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OldSkool
Crap like you say here only encourages me to want make off color comments about your idol. I'd love the opportunity to plant a foot in your a$$ and my door is the last one you'd ever want to come knockin' on.
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Patriot
OK - since "Caleb" is not around any longer, I do not believe in him. As a matter of fact, I believe he may
not even exist.
So then, who did this to us, and why? Maybe it was TWI
at the command of 'the fox'. Maybe they
just wanted to get us all involved and just to tweak our noses!
So, was it over "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor....." No!
Anyhow, thought it would be fun to blame the current twi for using a spinoff's name to get us riled up.
www.poopsenders.com (VERY funny!)
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