That is an absolutely huge topic and I hardly know where to start. In Tyndale's prologue to the book of Romans he shared that he felt that someone could study that text every single day of their life and never know it well enough.
But I am am wondering Zoe, what is the source for your text? It might take me a week to simply type it.
I want to read it as well but it is very difficult without paragraph breaks. Thanks Dooj for bringing it up. Maybe we can copy it and break it up to read it via "MS word" ourselves.
I am impressed that you could read it with no breaks. I couldn't it was too many words altogether -- but it did seem to just be Romans - the part I could read before I gave up.
It just looks like a cut and paste of The Book of Romans from The Messianic Jewish New Testament.
Dear Zoe,
I'm waiting for something from you to give this thread some specific direction, since it is your thread and all.
But since the text has a heavy Jewish flavor as did the writer of the original text of the book of Romans maybe you would like it to head in that direction.
After my splinter group disaster I found tremendous blessings in a little ministry with Messianic Jewish doctrines. And it served to help me see that TWI blew it with most everything Jewish as it pertains to now too. Not to mention a better application of the law and the gospels. So I think it could be fun to have another go round with this topic in your thread if you wish.
Just maybe if you saw fit to give a little bit of yourself along with the text it would help us all go somewhere with this thread. I could just plow ahead with what I think fits of course, but I don't have any idea if that leaves you on the sidelines of your own thread.
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The first sentence-kjv.
Can you eat the whole book?
Or must it be every word means something?
Perhaps the whole can mean something itself.
The last sentence is Amen.
second to last-
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
Romans, the mystery book.
Ephesians the Icing on this little cupcake.
Maybe that is what is sweet to the taste and bitter in the belly...
Let us study the Hebrew names of God, and how they should work in this work. The greek texts did not get it right, because of their three in one god concept. This is a letter, not a chapter and verse twi job. I would like to know how Gods Hebrew names work in this, also note Romans 10:9 and 10; do not use lord, Yeshua is the Messiah, and do not use that spirit teaching please, let us study it all. Thanks for helping me understand this work.
Let us study the Hebrew names of God, and how they should work in this work. The greek texts did not get it right, because of their three in one god concept.
The Greeks had a three-in-one god concept? :huh: Where did you get that information?
This is a letter, not a chapter and verse twi job.
Nonetheless, breaks of some kind make it easier to read and follow.
I would like to know how Gods Hebrew names work in this,
Probably not very well, since it was written initially in Greek.
also note Romans 10:9 and 10; do not use lord, Yeshua is the Messiah,
'Lord' is generally translated from kurios, so 'Lord' is more or less correct. There's a perfectly good Greek word that is equivalent to 'Messiah' and that's Christos (Christ).
and do not use that spirit teaching please, let us study it all.
Paul, a bondservant of Yeshua the Messiah, called to be an apostle, set apart unto the gospel of the grace of Yahweh Elohim, (which he promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures, concerning his son, (who was born completely in the flesh, of the seed of the house of David, and who came to be known as the son of Yahweh Elohim in power, and with the resurrection body of holiness,) because he was raised from among the dead, Yeshua the Messiah, the anointed of Yahweh; through whom we have received grace, and a mission for obedience to the faithfulness among all Gentiles, on behalf of his name; among whom are you also the called of Yahweh Elohim;) to all Yahweh Elohim’s beloved ones in Rome, called and sanctified: grace and peace be with you from Yahweh Elohim our Father through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
In the first place, I give thanks to Yahweh Elohim through Yeshua the Messiah concerning you all, that your faithfulness has been heard of throughout the world. For Yahweh Elohim, whom in the new nature I serve in the gospel of his grace, is my witness, that without ceasing I make mention of you, at all times, in my prayers, beseeching that if the way is open to me by the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim, I may come unto you. For I long much to see you, and to impart to you knowledge of the power from on high, to the end you may be established by it; and that we may be comforted together by our mutual faithfulness. Now I would not that you should be ignorant, my brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was hindered thus far,) that I might have some fruit among you also; even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to Greeks, and Barbarians; both to the wise, and the unwise.
So, as for me, I am ready to preach the gospel to you also that are at Rome. For I count it my highest honor and glory to proclaim the gospel; for it is the power of Yahweh Elohim unto salvation to everyone that believes in it; to the Israelite first, and also to the Gentile. For in it is Yahweh Elohim’s righteousness revealed from faithfulness to faithfulness; as it stands written, “A righteous one, by his faithfulness, will live.”
For the wrath of Yahweh Elohim from heaven is revealed against all iniquity and wickedness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness; because a knowledge of Yahweh Elohim is manifest to them; for Yahweh Elohim manifested it to them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and holiness; to the end of their being without excuse; because that when they knew Yahweh Elohim, they glorified him not as Yahweh Elohim, neither were thankful; but they became vain in their reasoning’s, and their foolish heart was darkened.
And, while they thought within themselves that they were wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible Yahweh Elohim into an likeness of an image of corruptible man, and in the likeness of birds, and of four-footed beasts, and of creeping things on the earth. For this cause, Yahweh Elohim gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, that their bodies should be dishonored between themselves; since they changed the truth of Yahweh Elohim for the lie, and worshipped and served the things created more than the creator of them, who is the blessed one forever.
Believe. Because of this Yahweh Elohim gave them up unto passions of infamy; for even their women did change the natural use of their sex into that which is against nature; and likewise the men also having forsaken the natural use of the woman, were inflamed in their lust one toward another; men with men, committing shameful acts, and receiving back in themselves the recompense of their wrong action.
And as they did not consent in themselves to know Yahweh Elohim, Yahweh Elohim has given them over to a reprobate mind, to do the things which should not to be done; as, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of jealousy, murder, strife, deceit, disposition for mischief; calumniators, evil speakers, hateful to Yahweh Elohim, insolent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents; without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, pitiless; who knowing the righteous sentence of Yahweh Elohim, that they which practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but consent also to them that practice them.
Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, to judge your neighbor; for in judging your neighbor, you condemn yourself; for even you that judges, practices the same things. But we know that the judgment of Yahweh Elohim is according to the truth against them which practice such things. What do you think, O man? Do you think that you who judge those who practice such things, while practicing them yourself, that you will escape the judgment of Yahweh Elohim? Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance, and the opportunity which he has given you, not knowing that the goodness of Yahweh Elohim leads you to repentance?
But, because of the hardness of your unrepenting heart, you are laying up for yourself a treasure of wrath for the day of wrath and the revelation of the righteous judgment of Yahweh Elohim; who will recompense to each one according to his deeds: to them who according to patience in well doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, to them he will give life eternal; but to them that are of contention, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, he will render affliction and anguish, for every soul of man that works the evil, of the Israelite first, and of the Gentile; but glory, honor, and peace, to every man that does good, to the Israelite first, and to the Gentile; for there is no partiality with Yahweh Elohim: for those without the law, who sin, will perish also without the law; and those under the law, who sin, will be judged by the law, (for not the hearers of the law are righteous before Yahweh Elohim; but the doers of the law shall be justified; for if the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves: which show forth the work of the law, as it is inscribed in their hearts; their conscience bears witness therewith, when their thoughts either rebuke or defend one another;) in the day when Yahweh Elohim will judge the secret actions of men, by Yeshua the Messiah, as my gospel teaches.
But if you, who are called a Israelite, trust on the law, and glory in Yahweh Elohim, that you know his good pleasure, and know the things which must be observed, because you are instructed in the law; and are confident that you yourself are a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, and an instructor of those lacking knowledge, and a preceptor to the young, and you have the external form of knowledge and of the truth as embodied in the law: you therefore, which teach the other, but fail to teach yourself? You teach that men should not steal, do you steal? You that say not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery?
You that despise idols, yet you plunder the sanctuary? And you that glory your boast in the law, do you, by acting contrary to the law, insult Yahweh Elohim himself? “And when they entered unto the Gentiles, whither they went, they profaned my holy name,” as it stands written. For circumcision indeed profits, if you practice the law; but if you be a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
Therefore if the uncircumcision should keep the righteous requirements of the law, will not that uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision, which from its nature fulfills the law, judge you; who, while in possession of that which is written and circumcision are a transgressor of the law? For it is not the one who is outwardly a Israelite, who is the real Israelite; neither is circumcision, that which is visible in the flesh: but a real Israelite, is one who is inwardly so; and circumcision is of the heart, in character, and not in that which is written; whose praise is not of men, but of Yahweh Elohim.
What then is the advantage of the Israelite, or what is the profit of circumcision? Much according to every way: chiefly, because that they were entrusted with the utterances of Yahweh Elohim. For what if some did not believed? Shall their unbelief nullify the faithfulness of Yahweh Elohim? Let it not be: yea, let Yahweh Elohim be true, but every man a liar; as it stands written: “That you might be justified in your reproof, and be pure when you judge.” Now if our iniquity serves to establish the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim, what then shall we say? Shall Yahweh Elohim be unjust when he inflicts the wrath? (I speak as a man.)
Let it not be; for then how could Yahweh Elohim judge the world? For if the truth of Yahweh Elohim overflowed through my falsehood, unto his glory; why then am I to be judged as a sinner? Or shall we say as some have slanderously reported us to say: “We will do evil things, that good results may come;” the condemnation of such is reserved for eternal justice. What then, have we any excuse to put forward? Not at all: for we have before convicted both Israelites and Gentiles, to be all under sin; as it stands written: “For there is not a righteous man upon the earth, no, not one; Yahweh Elohim looked down from heaven upon the sons of Adam, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek Yahweh Elohim. They are all gone astray, they are all together become corrupt; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an opened sepulcher; they deceive with their tongues; adders’ poison is under their lips.
Their mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud; they run to evil, and they make hast to shed innocent blood; wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not. There is no fear of Elohim before their eyes.” Now we know that whatever things the law says, it is said to those who are under the law; so that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may become under penalty before Yahweh Elohim.
Therefore by works of the law, there shall no flesh be justified in his sight; for, by means of the law, is the knowledge of sin. But at this present time, the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim apart from the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; and the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim, which is by faithfulness in Yeshua the Messiah unto all them that believe: for there is no distinction; for all sinned, and come short of the glory of Yahweh Elohim; being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Yeshua the Messiah; whom Yahweh Elohim foreordained as a covering through faithfulness in his blood, for a declaration of his righteousness by reason of the passing over of sins that are past; by the opportunity which Yahweh Elohim has given us through his forbearance, for the manifestation of his righteousness at the present season, that we might be declared righteous; and for the justification of righteousness to us who are in the faithfulness of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Where then is glorying? It is annihilated. By what law? By that of works? Nay: but by a law of faithfulness. We therefore conclude that it is by faithfulness that a man is justified, and not by the works of law. For, is he the Yahweh Elohim of the Israelites only, and not of the Gentiles? Nay: of the Gentiles also; because there is, one Yahweh Elohim, who will justify the circumcision by faithfulness, and the uncircumcision by the same faithfulness. What then? Do we nullify the law by faithfulness? Let it not be; on the contrary, we establish the law. What then shall we say concerning Abraham our forefather, who lived according to the flesh before Yahweh Elohim called him? For, if Abraham was justified by works, he had ground of glorying; yet not before Yahweh Elohim. For what said the scripture? “And Abraham believed what he heard, and Yahweh counted it to him for righteousness.” But to him who works, wages are not considered as a favor, but as that which is due to him.
Whereas, to him that works not, but only believes in him that justifies sinners, his faithfulness is accounted to him for righteousness. Just as David also said about the blessedness of the man to whom Yahweh Elohim declared righteous apart from works, saying: “How happy is he whose rebellion is carried away, whose erring is atoned. How happy is the man unto whom Yahweh counts not sin in ones nature.”
This blessedness, therefore, is it on account of circumcision or on account of uncircumcision? For we say that Abraham’s faithfulness was accounted to him for righteousness. How then was it given to him? By means of circumcision, or in uncircumcision? It was not given in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. For he received circumcision as a sign and a seal of the righteousness of his faithfulness while he was uncircumcised, that he might become the father of all those who believe, though they be not circumcised, that righteousness might be accounted also to them, so that the father of the circumcision is not only to those who are of circumcision, but also to those who walk in the steps of the faithfulness of our father Abraham while he was yet uncircumcised.
For the promise to Abraham and to his seed, that he should become the heir of the world was not by the law, but by the righteousness of his faithfulness; for if they had become heirs by means of the law, then faithfulness would have been empty, and the promise made of none effect.
For the law is a worker of wrath; because where no law is, there is no transgression. On account of this it is by faithfulness that we will be justified by grace; to the end the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faithfulness of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it stands written: “For a father of many nations have I made you”) before him whom he believed, Yahweh Elohim; who makes alive the dead, and who calls those who are not yet in being, as though they were present. Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, “So shall your seed be.”
And being not weak in faithfulness, he considered his own body already dead, he being about an hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah's womb. He staggered not at the promise of Yahweh Elohim by unbelief; but was strong in faithfulness, giving glory to Yahweh Elohim; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able to perform also. Wherefore also his faithfulness was accounted to him for righteousness.
And not on account of him alone, was it written, that his faithfulness was accounted for righteousness; but on account of us also; because it is about to be accounted so to us believing in him that raised the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead; who was delivered up, on account of our offences, and was raised that he might justify us. Therefore being justified by faithfulness, we have peace with Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah; through whom we have obtained the introduction also by faithfulness into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of Yahweh Elohim.
And not only so, but we rejoice in the afflictions also; knowing that the afflictions works patience; and patience, experience; and experience, hope; and hope causes no one to be ashamed; because the love of Yahweh Elohim is poured into our hearts through power from on high which was given to us. But the Messiah at this season, because of our weaknesses, died for the sake of the wicked. Hardly would any man die for the sake of the wicked; but for the sake of the good, one might be willing to die. Yahweh Elohim has here manifested his love toward us, because, while we were yet sinners, the Messiah died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be delivered from the wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to Yahweh Elohim by the death of his son, much more being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
And not only so, but we also rejoice in Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, through whom we have now received reconciliation, restoration to favor. On account of this, just as by one man sin entered into the world, and, by means of sin, death; and so death passed through unto all men, because all sinned; (for until the law was given, though sin was in the world, it was not considered sin, because there was no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam’s transgression, who is a figure of the coming one. But the measure of the gift of Yahweh Elohim was not the measure of the fall. If therefore, because of the fall of one, many died, how much more will the grace and gift of Yahweh Elohim, because of one man, Yeshua the Messiah, be increased for many?
And the effect of the gift of Yahweh Elohim was greater than the effect of the offence of Adam; for while the judgment from one man’s offence resulted in condemnation of many, the gift of Yahweh Elohim of forgiveness of sins resulted in a righteous acquittal to many more. For if, on account of the offence of one, death reigned, how much more those who receive the abundance of grace, and of the gift of righteousness, shall reign in life, by means of one, Yeshua the Messiah.
So then as by means of one act of transgression sentence came upon all men unto condemnation, even so by means of one righteous act also came upon all men unto justification issuing in life. For as by one man’s disobedience the many were constituted sinners, so also by the obedience of one shall the many be constituted righteous. The introduction of the law caused sin to multiply, and when sin had multiplied, there grace superabounded. So that, as sin had reigned in death, so grace might reign in righteousness unto life eternal, by means of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. What shall we then say?
Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Let it not be. How shall we that died to sin, live any longer in it? Or do you not know, that we who are baptized into Yeshua the Messiah, were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him by baptism into death; so that like as the Messiah was raised from among the dead by the glorious power of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have become planted together with him in the likeness of his death, so shall we be also into his resurrection.
For we know, that our old man is crucified with him; so that the old nature which is the slave of sin might be annulled, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead to it, has been justified, cleared from the claims of sin. Now if we died together with the Messiah, let us believe that we shall live also with the Messiah. For we know that the Messiah having been raised from among the dead, and dies no more; and that death has no more dominion over him. For in dying, he died to sin once for all; and in living, he lives to Yahweh Elohim. Likewise, you also must consider yourself as being dead to sin, but alive to Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Therefore let not sin reign in your dead body, that you should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither should you yield your members as instruments of iniquity to sin; but yield yourselves to Yahweh Elohim, as those who have been resuscitated from the dead, and let your members be instruments of righteousness to Yahweh Elohim; for sin shall not have dominion over you; for you are no longer under the law, but under grace.
What then? Are we to sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? Let it not be. Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves servants for obedience, you are servants to him whom you obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But thanks to Yahweh Elohim that you, who were once the servants of sin, now obeyed from the heart that form of teaching which has been delivered to you. Having, then, been set free from sin, you were made bond-servants of righteousness.
I speak after the manner of men because of the weakness of your flesh; for as you have yielded your members servitude of uncleanness and iniquity, so now yield your members to the servitude of righteousness and holiness. For when you were the servants of sin, you were free with regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in those things in respect of which you are now ashamed? For the end thereof is death.
But now having, then, been set free from sin, and were made bond-servants to Yahweh Elohim, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end thereof is life eternal. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of Yahweh Elohim is life eternal through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Do you not know, my brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law has dominion over the man for such time as he lives? Just as a woman is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives; but if the husband should have died, she is freed from the law of the husband. So then if, while the husband is alive, she should be attached to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband should have died, she is freed from the law; so that she is not an adulteress, though she becomes another man’s wife. Wherefore, my brethren, you also were put to death to the law by the crucified body of the Messiah; to the end that you might be joined to another, to him who was raised from among the dead; so that you may bring forth fruit to Yahweh Elohim.
For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions of sins, which were called out by the law, were active in our members, that we should bring forth fruit to death. But now we are delivered from the law, having died to that which held us in its grasp; so that we should serve in newness of the new nature, and not in the oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Let it not be. I would not have recognized it as sin, except by means of the law; for I would never have recognized the meaning of covetousness, had not the law said, “You shalt not covet.” So by means of this commandment, sin found an opportunity and provoked in me every kind of desire. For without the law, sin is dead. And I, without the law, was alive formerly; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life, and I died; and the commandment which was ordained to life, was itself found by me to be for death. For sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, deceived me, and thereby slew me. Wherefore, the law indeed is holy; and the commandment is holy, and righteous, and good.
Did, then, that which is good become death to me? Let it not be. But sin that is exposed as sin, and works out death in me for that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become utterly sinful. For we recognize that the law is good; but I am of the flesh enslave to sin. For that which I do, I approve not; and I do not practice the thing which I want, but I practice the thing which I hate. That is exactly what I do. So then if I do that which I do not wish to do, I can testify concerning the law that it is good. Now then it is not I who do it, but sin which dominates me. Yet I know that it does not fully dominate me (that is in my flesh); but as far as good is concerned, the choice is easy for me to make, but to do it is difficult for me. For the good that I would, I do not; but the evil which I would not, that I practice.
Now if I do that which I do not wish, then it is not I who do it, but the sin which dominates me. I find therefore that the law agrees with my conscience when I wish to do good, but evil is always near, distracting me; for I delight in the law of Yahweh Elohim after the inward man; but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and seeking to lead me captive to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who shall rescue me from the body of this death? I thank Yahweh Elohim; he will rescue me through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. So then with the mind indeed I myself serve the law of Yahweh Elohim; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore no condemnation, to them who, in Yeshua the Messiah, walk not after the flesh. For the new nature of life, which is in Yeshua Messiah, has freed me from the law of sin and death.
For the law was weak through the weakness of the flesh, Yahweh Elohim’s own son was born in the likeness of sin’s flesh, to be a sin offering, condemned sin by means of his flesh; so that the righteous requirements of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the old nature, but after the new nature.
For they who live after the old nature, set affection on the things of the old nature; and they who live after the new nature, set affection on the things of the new nature; for the minding of the flesh results in death; but the minding of the new nature results in life and peace. Because the minding of the flesh is enmity against Yahweh Elohim; for it does not submit itself to the law of Yahweh Elohim, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the old nature are not able to please Yahweh Elohim. You, however, are not in the old nature, but in the new nature, if so be that the new nature from Yahweh Elohim truly dwells in you. But if in anyone there is not the new nature of the Messiah, he is not of his.
And if the Messiah is in you, the body indeed is dead, in regard to sin; and the new nature is alive in regard to righteousness. And if the new nature from him that raised the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead, dwells in you, he that raised Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead, shall give life in your dead bodies also, because of his new nature that indwells in you. So then, my brethren, we are debtors, not to the old nature, that we should walk according to the old nature. For if you live after the old nature, you are about to die; but if, by the new nature, you are putting to death the practices of the body, you shall live. For as many as are led by the new nature from Yahweh Elohim, they are the sons of Yahweh Elohim. For you have not received a character of bondage to be in fear again; but you have received a character of sonship, in which we cry, “Father, our Father.”
The power from on high itself bears witness with our new nature, that we are the sons of Yahweh Elohim; and if sons, heirs also; heirs indeed of Yahweh Elohim, and joint-heirs with Yeshua the Messiah; so that, if we suffer with him, we shall be glorified together with him also; for I think, that the sufferings of the present season, are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed, with regard to us; for the earnest expectation of all mankind waits for the manifestation of the sons of Yahweh Elohim.
For man was made subject to disappointing misery, not willingly, but by reason of him who gave him free will in the hope he would choose rightly, because man himself shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of Yahweh Elohim. For we know that the whole creation is groaning together and travails together in pain until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the power from on high itself, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for sonship, that is, redemption of our bodies. For we live in hope; but hope that is seen is not hope: for if we saw it, how should we hope for it?
But if we hope for that which is not seen, then do we wait for it in patience. Likewise the power from on high itself also helps our weaknesses; for we do not know what is right and proper for us pray for; but the power from on high itself prays with that earnestness which cannot be described. But the explorer of hearts; it knows what is the mind of the new nature; because it prays for the saints, agreeably to the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim. But we know that all things work together for good to them that love Yahweh Elohim, to them who are the called according to his purpose, for he knew them in advance, and he marked them with the likeness of the image of his son, unto his being the first-born among many brethren.
Moreover, those whom he marked in advance, he has called, and those whom he has called, he has declared righteous, and those whom he has declared righteous, he has glorified.
What shall we then say concerning these things? If Yahweh Elohim is for us, who is against us? And, if he spared not his son, but gave him up for us all, how shall he not give us all things, with him? Who will set himself against the chosen of Yahweh Elohim? Shall Yahweh Elohim who justifies them? Who is it that condemns?
The Messiah died, and was raised, and is on the right hand of Yahweh Elohim, and makes intercession for us. What will sever us from the love of the Messiah? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or the sword? Even as it stands written: “Surely, for your sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter;” but in all these things we are more than conquerors, through him who loved us. For I have been persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else created, shall be able to sever us from the love of Yahweh Elohim, which is in the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
I tell the truth through the Messiah, and do not misrepresent; and my conscience also bearing me witness through the power from on high, that I am exceedingly sorrowful, and the sadness of my heart is unceasing. For I used to wish that myself were accursed from the Messiah for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: who are Israelites; to whom belongs the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law and the rituals therein, and the promises, and the fathers; from among whom the Messiah appeared, who is the son of Yahweh Elohim, who is over all; to whom are due praises and thanksgiving, forever and ever; believe.
It is not as though the word of Yahweh Elohim had actually failed. For all those who belong to Israel, are not Israelites; neither are they all sons, because they are of the seed of Abraham: for it was said, “In Isaac shall your descendants be called.” That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of Yahweh Elohim; but the children of the promise are accounted as descendants. For this is the word of promise: “At the time appointed I will return unto you, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.” And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, our father Isaac; (before her children were born or had done good or evil, the choice of Yahweh Elohim was made know in advance; that it might stand, not by means of works, but of him who called;) for it was said: “And the elder shall serve the younger;” as it stands written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I set aside.” What shall we say then? Is there injustice with Yahweh Elohim? Let it not be.
For he said to Moses also: “I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.” So then it is not of him that willed, nor of him that runs, but of Yahweh Elohim that shows mercy. For in the scripture, he said to Pharaoh: “And in very deed for this cause have I made you to stand, for to show in you my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.” Wherefore, he has mercy upon whom he pleases, and whom he pleases, he hardens. But, perhaps you will say: “Why does he yet find fault? For who can resist his will?” however, O man, who are you to question Yahweh Elohim?
“Shall the clay say to him that fashions it, ‘What makes you?’ or your work, ‘He has no hands?’” Does not the potter have power of his clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if Yahweh Elohim, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath, pieced up together, as a broken vessel to perdition; and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory; us whom he called, not of the Israelites only, but of the Gentiles also? As he said in Hosea also: “I will say to them which were not my people, ‘You are my people;’ and they shall say, ‘You are my Elohim.’” “And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, ‘You are not my people,’ there it shall be said unto them, ’You are the sons of the living El.’” Isaiah also proclaimed over the children of Israel: “For though your people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the finish decreed shall overflow in righteousness.
For Adonai Yahweh of hosts shall make a consummation, even decreed, in the midst of the land;” just as Isaiah had said before, “Except Yahweh of Hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.” What shall we say than? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, obtained righteousness, that is the righteousness which is the result of faithfulness. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law righteousness. Why? Because they sought it not by faithfulness, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling-stone; as it stands written, “Behold, I have laid in Zion for a foundation a stone, a test stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believes shall have no need for hurried flight.”
My brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to Yahweh Elohim for them is for salvation; for I bear them witness, that there is in them a zeal for Yahweh Elohim; but it is not according to knowledge; for they being ignorant of Yahweh Elohim’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves to the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim; for the Messiah is the end of the law, for righteousness to everyone that believes. For Moses describes the righteousness which is of the law, that: “Which, if the man shall do them, he shall also live again by them.” But the righteousness which is of faithfulness speaks on this wise: “It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?’
Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?’” But what does it said? “But the word is very near to you, in your mouth, and in your heart, that you may do it:” that is, the word of faithfulness which we proclaim; that if you will confess with your mouth Yeshua as the Messiah, and will believe in your heart that Yahweh Elohim raised him from among the dead; you shall be saved. For with the heart it is believed unto righteousness; and with the mouth it is confessed unto salvation. For the scripture says: “He that believes shall have no need for hurried flight.”
For there is no difference between the Israelites and the Gentiles; for the same Messiah of all is rich unto all that call upon him. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear apart from one preaching? And how shall they preach, if they are not sent forth? As it stands written: “How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that brings good tidings, that publishes peace, that brings good tidings of good;” but all of them have not obeyed the proclamation of the good news; for Isaiah said: “Who rested on the hearing of us?” So then faithfulness is from the hearing of the ear; and the hearing of the ear, is from the word of Yahweh Elohim. But I say: Have they not heard? Yes indeed, “Their inheritance is gone out through all the earth and their teachings to the end of the world.” But I say: Did not Israel know? First Moses said: “And I will move them to jealousy with those which are no people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.” But Isaiah is very bold, and said: “I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not.” But to Israel he said: “I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people.”
I say then: Did Yahweh Elohim thrust aside his people? Let it not be. For I indeed am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Yahweh Elohim did not thrust aside his people which he foreknew. Do you not know what the scripture says of Elijah? How he makes intercession to Yahweh Elohim against Israel, saying: “For the sons of Israel have forsaken your covenant, thrown down your altars, and slain your prophets with the sword; and I, even I only am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.” But what said the answer of Yahweh Elohim to him? “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which has not kissed to him.” Even so then at the present season also a remnant is preserved, elected by grace.
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. What then? Israel has not obtain that which it sought; but elected ones have obtained it, and the rest of them were hardened in their heart, (according as it stands written: “For Yahweh has poured out upon you the character of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes” unto this very day. And David said: “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.” I say then: Have they so stumbled as to fall entirely?
Let it not be; but rather by their stumbling salvation is come to the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. And if their stumbling has resulted in riches to the world, and their condemnation in riches to the Gentiles; how much more is their restoration? It is to you Gentiles that I speak, inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, and perhaps glorify my ministry; but if I am able to make those who are my flesh jealous, I might save some of them. For if their rejection has resulted in reconciliation of the world, how much more will their restoration be? Indeed it will be life from the dead. For if the first-fruit is holy, the rest of the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were cut off, and you who are a branch of a wild olive tree have been grafted in their place, and you have become a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree; boast not against the branches. For if you boast, it is not you who sustain the root, but the root sustains you. Perhaps you may say, “Branches were cut off, that I might be grafted in their place.”
Well; because of unbelief they were cut off, and you stand by faithfulness. Be not arrogant, but fear; for if Yahweh Elohim did not spare the natural branches, it may well be he will not spare you. Consider therefore the goodness and severity of Yahweh Elohim: on those who fell, severity; but on you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for Yahweh Elohim is able to graft them in again. For if you who have been cut from the wild olive tree, which is natural to you, and grafted contrary to your nature to become a good olive tree; how much more fruitful would they be, if they were grafted into their natural olive tree? And that you, my brethren, may not be wise in your own apprehension, I wish you to know this secret, that hardness of heart has in some measure befallen Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles shall come in: and then all Israel shall be saved; as it stands written: “And a redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob;” “As for me, this is my covenant with them, said Yahweh.”
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies on account of your sakes; but as concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For Yahweh Elohim does not withdraw his gift and his call. Just as you were formerly disobedient to Yahweh Elohim, and have now obtained mercy because of their disobedience; likewise, they are also disobedient now to the mercy which is upon you, that there may be mercy upon them also. For Yahweh Elohim has included all men in disobedience, that he might have mercy upon every man. O the depth of the riches, both of the wisdom and knowledge of Yahweh Elohim!
How inscrutable are his judgments, and his ways untraceable! For who knew the mind of Yahweh? Or who became his fellow-counselor? Or who gave first to him, and it shall be repaid to him? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory forever and ever. Believe. I beseech you therefore, my brethren, by the mercies of Yahweh Elohim, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, well-pleasing to Yahweh Elohim, by means of reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world; but be you transformed by the renewing of the mind: to your proving what is the good, and well-pleasing, and perfect pleasure of Yahweh Elohim. For I say, through the grace which is given to me, to all of you, not to think of yourselves beyond what you ought to think; but to think soberly, as Yahweh Elohim has imparted to each one his measure of faithfulness. For as we have many members in one body, and all the members have not the same function; so we, being many, are one body in the Messiah, and are naturally members of each other; but having functions differing according to the grace that is given to us.
There is that of prophecy, according to the measure of the faithfulness; and there is that of ministration, in their ministry; and there is that of a teacher, in his teaching; and there is that of consolation, in consoling; and that of a giver, with simplicity; and that of a presider, with diligence; he that shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Let love be unfeigned. Abhorring the evil; cleaving to the good. Be kindly affectionate one to another with love for the brethren; in every honorable matter, leading one another on; be active, and not slothful; be fervent in the character; serving the anointed of Yahweh; rejoicing in the hope; be patient under your afflictions; continuing steadfastly in prayer; distributing to the necessity of the saints; pursuing kindness to strangers. Bless them that persecute you; bless, and curse not. Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. Be of the same mind one toward another.
Mind not vain glory, but associate with those who are humble. Be not wise in your own eyes. And repay to no one evil for evil; but be diligent to do good things before the presence of all men. If it is possible, as much as lies in you, be at peace with all men. And be you not avengers of yourselves, my beloved; but give place to the wrath; for it stands written: “Is not this laid up in store with me, sealed up in my treasuries, for the day of vengeance and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip.”
Therefore if your enemy hunger, give him bread to eat; if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: for you shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. Be not overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Let every soul be subject to the sovereign authorities. For there is no authority which is not under Yahweh Elohim; and the authorities which exist are established by Yahweh Elohim. Whosoever therefore opposes the civil authority, opposes the establishment of Yahweh Elohim; and they who oppose them, shall receive judgment to themselves; for judges are not a terror to good deeds, but to evil deeds. Now if you wish not to be afraid of the authority, then do good, and you will be praised for it. For the ruler is a minister of Yahweh Elohim to you for good.
But if you do that which is wrong, be afraid; for he is not girded with the sword in vain; for he is a minister of Yahweh Elohim, and an avenger of wrath upon those who practices evil things. And therefore, it is necessary for us to be obedient, not only on account of the wrath, but likewise on account of the conscience. For, for this reason you pay tribute also; for they are Yahweh Elohim’s ministers, persevering upon this very thing. Render therefore, to everyone as is due to him; head tax to him who is in charge of head tax, duty to him who is in charge of taxes; reverence to whom reverence is due, and honor to whom honor is due. And owe nothing to anyone; but to love one another; for he that loves his neighbor, has fulfilled law. For this likewise, which it said: “You shalt not kill; nor commit adultery; nor steal; nor bear false witness; nor covet;” and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in the saying: “You shalt love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no evil to one’s neighbor; because love is fullness of the law.
And this also know you, that it is the season and the hour, that we should henceforth be awakened from our sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than when we believed. The night is advanced, the day is drawn nigh: let us therefore cast off from us the works of the darkness, and let us put on the armor of the light. Let us walk decently, as in the daylight; not in clamor and drunkenness, not in the practice of immorality, not in jealousy and strife. But clothe yourselves with the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, and be not thoughtful about your old nature, for the indulgence of appetites. To him that is weak in the faithfulness, reach forth the hand, not to criticizings of his thoughts.
The one indeed believes that he may eat all things; the other, who is weak, eats herbs. Let not him that eats despise him that eats not; and let not him which eats not; judge him that eats; for Yahweh Elohim received him. Who are you to judge another man’s servant? For if he is a success, he is a success to his master; and if he is a failure, he is a failure to his master. As for his success, he will succeed, for it is in the power of his master to make him succeed. The one indeed values one day above another; another values all days alike. But let everyone be sure, in regard to his knowledge. He who is mindful concerning a day’s duty is considerate of his master; and everyone who is not mindful concerning a day’s duty is inconsiderate of his master. And he who is wasteful is detrimental to his master, even though he confesses it to Yahweh Elohim; and he, who is not wasteful, is not wasteful to his master, yet he likewise tells it to Yahweh Elohim. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself.
For whether we live, we live to the anointed of Yahweh; and whether we die, we die to the anointed of Yahweh; whether we live therefore, or die, we belong to the anointed of Yahweh. For unto this Yeshua died and lives; to be the Messiah both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or, why do you despise your brother? For we must all stand before the judgment seat of Yahweh Elohim. For it stands written: “I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.” So then, each one of us must give an account of himself to Yahweh Elohim.
Let us no longer therefore judge one another; but rather be mindful of this, not to put a stumbling-block or an occasion to fall in the way of your brother. For I know, and am persuaded by Yahweh Elohim, that there is nothing which is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him only is it unclean. But now if you have caused your brother to grieve on account of meat, then you are not living in harmony. Do not make meat a cause to destroy a man for whose sake the Messiah died. Let not our blessings be a matter of reproach to anyone; for the sovereignty of Yahweh Elohim is not eating and drinking; but of righteousness, and peace, and joy in the new nature. For he who serves the Messiah in these things is well-pleasing to Yahweh Elohim, and approved by men. Let us therefore pursue after the things of the peace, and the things of mutual edifying. And let us not, because of meat, destroy the work of Yahweh Elohim. All things indeed are clean; yet it is evil, to the man who eats with stumbling.
It is better that we neither eat meat, nor drink wine, nor do any other thing whereby we cause our brother to stumble, or is offended, or is made weak. Have you faithfulness? Have it as concerning yourself in the sight of Yahweh Elohim. Happy is he that judges not himself in that which he allows.
But he that doubts is condemned if he eats, because he eats not of faithfulness; and whatsoever is not of faithfulness, is sin. And we that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not seek to please ourselves. Let each of us please the neighbor, in good things, as conducive to edification. For even the Messiah pleased not himself; but, as it stands written: “The reproaches of them that reproach you are fallen upon me.” For whatsoever things were written aforetime, were written for our teaching, that we, through patient endurance and the comfort of the scriptures may have the hope. Now the Yahweh Elohim of patient endurance and the comfort, grant to you, to think in harmony among yourselves, through the example of Yeshua the Messiah; so that with one accord, with one mouth, glorify Yahweh Elohim, even the Father of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. Wherefore receive you one another, as the Messiah also received us to the glory of Yahweh Elohim. For I say that Yeshua the Messiah has become a minister to the circumcision, for the truth of Yahweh Elohim, for the confirming of the promises made to the fathers; and for the Gentiles to glorify Yahweh Elohim for his mercies which were poured upon them, as it stands written: “Therefore will I give thanks unto you, O Yahweh, among the Gentile peoples, and sing praises unto your name.”
And again he said: “Rejoice, O you Gentiles, with his people.” And again: “O praise Yahweh himself, all you Gentiles; and highly extol him, all you peoples.” Now the Yahweh Elohim of the hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, unto your abounding in the hope, through the power of the power from on high. And I myself am persuaded concerning you, my brethren, that you also are full of goodness, and filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. But I wrote the more freely to you partly, as reminding you, because of the grace that is given to me by Yahweh Elohim, for me to be a minister of Yeshua the Messiah to the Gentiles, to minister as a priest the gospel of grace of Yahweh Elohim, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be accepted, being sanctified by the power from on high.
I have therefore a glorying through Yeshua the Messiah, in the things pertaining to Yahweh Elohim. For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which the Messiah has not wrought by me, for the obedience of the Gentiles, by word and in deeds, by the power of signs and wonders through the power from on high; so that from Jerusalem, and round about as far as Illyricum, and have fulfilled the announcement of the Messiah; while I earnestly endeavoring not to preach where the name of the Messiah had been invoked, because I did not want to build upon another’s foundation; but, as it stands written: “They to whom it had not been told shall see; and they which had not heard shall consider.” For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. But now, since I have no place in these regions, and as I have been desirous for many years past to come unto you; when I go to Spain, I will come to you; for I trust to see you in my journey, and that you will escort me thence after I have more or less fully enjoyed my visit. But I am now going unto Jerusalem ministering to the saints; for it pleased Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor of the saints which are at Jerusalem.
They have been eager to do it, because they are indebted to them; for if the Gentiles have been made partakers with them of their promises, they are indebted to minister to them in material things. When, therefore, I have accomplished this, and have finished distributing to them this kind of help, I will cross over toward you on my way to Spain. And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the Messiah. Now I beseech you, my brethren, for the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah’s sake, and by the love of Yahweh Elohim, that you should strive together with me in prayers to Yahweh Elohim for me; that I may be delivered from them that are disobedient in Judah; and that the assistance which I carry to the saints in Jerusalem may be well accepted; and that, by the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim, I may come unto you with joy, and together with you be refreshed. Now the Yahweh Elohim of the peace be with you all. Believe.
I commend to you Phebe, our sister, who is a servant of the assembly which is at Cenchrea; that you receive her in the anointed of Yahweh, worthily of the saints, and that you stand by her in whatsoever thing she may have need of you; for she has been a great help to many people, and of myself also. Salute Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow-laborers in Yeshua the Messiah; who, for my life, surrendered their own necks; and to whom, not only I am grateful, but also all the assemblies of the Gentiles. Likewise salute the assembly that is in their house. Salute my well beloved Epaenetus, who was the first-fruits of Achaia unto the Messiah.
Salute Mary, who has labored hard among you. Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, and well-known among the apostles, who before me also were in the Messiah. Salute Amplias, my well beloved in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Urbane, our fellow-laborer in the Messiah, and Stachys my well beloved. Salute Apelles, the approved in the Messiah. Salute them which are of those from among the ones of Aristobulus. Salute Herodion, my kinsman. Salute them that are of the household of Narcissus, who are in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labored in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute the well beloved Persis, who labored hard in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Rufus, the elect brother in the anointed of Yahweh, and his mother and mine. Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them. Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.
Salute one another with a kiss of love. All the assemblies of Yahweh Elohim salute you. Now I beseech you, my brethren, to mark them which cause factions and stumbling-blocks contrary to the doctrine which you learned; and turn away from them. For they that are such, do not serve the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, but their own belly; and by their fine words and flatteries deceive thoroughly the hearts of the guileless. But your obedience is known to everyone. I rejoice therefore on your behalf: but I wish you indeed to be wise to that which is the good, and harmless concerning the evil. And the Yahweh Elohim of peace shall crush in pieces Satan under your feet with speed. The grace through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah be with you. Timothy, my fellow-laborer, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, salute you.
I Tertius, who wrote this letter, salute you in the anointed of Yahweh. Gaius my host, and host of the whole assembly, salutes you. Erastus, the treasurer of the city, salutes you; and Quartus a brother. Now unto Yahweh Elohim, who is able to establish you, (according to my gospel, which is proclaimed concerning Yeshua the Messiah; and according to the revelation of the secret, which was hidden from the times that are past, but is at this time revealed, by means of the scriptures of the prophets; and by the command of the eternal Yahweh Elohim, is made know to all the Gentiles, for the obedience of faithfulness;) for Yahweh Elohim is the only wise one, to him be the glory, through Yeshua the Messiah, forever and ever. Believe.
The grace of Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah be with you all. Believe.
Hmmm, this was written in Greek originally as Oak pointed out so I'm not sure where or even if God was given more than one name in this book. But I do know that unlike the OT Romans was written after the coming of Jesus and would probably have referrence to him at some point. So it would be irresponsible to simply not consider him for the title 'Lord' when studying the material. Everything of course must be understood within the context, but we must remember that part of that context is going to be the life, death and works of Jesus the Christ.
And no the Greeks did not have a 3 in 1 god concept for Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. They barely acknowledged the existance of any of them. If I remember correctly, it was the Romans some 3-4 hundred years after the death of Jesus that devised the 3 in 1 plan. Certainly the seeds of the whole thing were being sown early on and Romans does address the issue/ problem of making Jesus into God but it wasnt until the Council of Niceae that it was made official with the Nicean Creed.
So - the title of the thread reads "Romans - let's study this!" The first post was apparently the whole book of Romans.
Zoe? I'd say "lets" implies you're going to be involved somehow.
What exactly do you mean by "study"? So you want everyone to break out their concordances and interlinears and perhaps the literals according to usage (or mis-usage, as the case may be)?
What doctrinal discussion are you wanting to start?
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JeffSjo
That is an absolutely huge topic and I hardly know where to start. In Tyndale's prologue to the book of Romans he shared that he felt that someone could study that text every single day of their life and never know it well enough.
But I am am wondering Zoe, what is the source for your text? It might take me a week to simply type it.
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Eyesopen
This is quite interesting...what is the source of the text?
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doojable
Zoe - please add paragraph breaks and some indication of verses to your post. It's incredibly hard to read.
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Bolshevik
according to line 3, word 8, . . . "the"
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doojable
I fixed my typos - thanks Bolshevik.
I should know better than to post in a hurry.
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Dot Matrix
I want to read it as well but it is very difficult without paragraph breaks. Thanks Dooj for bringing it up. Maybe we can copy it and break it up to read it via "MS word" ourselves.
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waysider
Am I missing something?
It just looks like a cut and paste of The Book of Romans from The Messianic Jewish New Testament.
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Bolshevik
but does your copy have a " ;)" about half way through?
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brideofjc
Is there a Reader's Digest available for this?
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TrustAndObey
While mine may not have the actual winking face picture, it does have the ; and the ) together which makes the image of the face appear.. ;)
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Waysider:
I am impressed that you could read it with no breaks. I couldn't it was too many words altogether -- but it did seem to just be Romans - the part I could read before I gave up.
And WHY are we reading this Zoe?
Welcome, by the way.
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JumpinJive
I think we ought to take out the spaces and punctuation too and read it like real men and women!!
-JJ
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Bolshevik
ah . . . and I thought zoe was trying to highlight something he/she thought profound.
too bad there wasn't a : d r i n k : without the spaces
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Eyesopen
Yes, welcome Zoe...belated but heartfelt.
What would you like to study? The entire thing as a whole? Or a verse by verse breakdown or something else?
Don't be shy. We don't bite too hard...usually. <_<
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JeffSjo
Dear Zoe,
I'm waiting for something from you to give this thread some specific direction, since it is your thread and all.
But since the text has a heavy Jewish flavor as did the writer of the original text of the book of Romans maybe you would like it to head in that direction.
After my splinter group disaster I found tremendous blessings in a little ministry with Messianic Jewish doctrines. And it served to help me see that TWI blew it with most everything Jewish as it pertains to now too. Not to mention a better application of the law and the gospels. So I think it could be fun to have another go round with this topic in your thread if you wish.
Just maybe if you saw fit to give a little bit of yourself along with the text it would help us all go somewhere with this thread. I could just plow ahead with what I think fits of course, but I don't have any idea if that leaves you on the sidelines of your own thread.
JEFF
(edited for grammar)
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cman
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The first sentence-kjv.
Can you eat the whole book?
Or must it be every word means something?
Perhaps the whole can mean something itself.
The last sentence is Amen.
second to last-
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
Romans, the mystery book.
Ephesians the Icing on this little cupcake.
Maybe that is what is sweet to the taste and bitter in the belly...
What is inside of Romans, of us.....?
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zoe
Let us study the Hebrew names of God, and how they should work in this work. The greek texts did not get it right, because of their three in one god concept. This is a letter, not a chapter and verse twi job. I would like to know how Gods Hebrew names work in this, also note Romans 10:9 and 10; do not use lord, Yeshua is the Messiah, and do not use that spirit teaching please, let us study it all. Thanks for helping me understand this work.
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cman
uh...no...
i think i,ll be fine anyway...
thanks, but no, it's not about romans, or the Lord,
or yeshua, or the messiah, is it....
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When you say Let's study this
What exactly are you thinking? Seems like you want us to study it and tell you what we think and perhaps you have already made up your mind.
What do you think Zoe?
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Paul, a bondservant of Yeshua the Messiah, called to be an apostle, set apart unto the gospel of the grace of Yahweh Elohim, (which he promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures, concerning his son, (who was born completely in the flesh, of the seed of the house of David, and who came to be known as the son of Yahweh Elohim in power, and with the resurrection body of holiness,) because he was raised from among the dead, Yeshua the Messiah, the anointed of Yahweh; through whom we have received grace, and a mission for obedience to the faithfulness among all Gentiles, on behalf of his name; among whom are you also the called of Yahweh Elohim;) to all Yahweh Elohim’s beloved ones in Rome, called and sanctified: grace and peace be with you from Yahweh Elohim our Father through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
In the first place, I give thanks to Yahweh Elohim through Yeshua the Messiah concerning you all, that your faithfulness has been heard of throughout the world. For Yahweh Elohim, whom in the new nature I serve in the gospel of his grace, is my witness, that without ceasing I make mention of you, at all times, in my prayers, beseeching that if the way is open to me by the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim, I may come unto you. For I long much to see you, and to impart to you knowledge of the power from on high, to the end you may be established by it; and that we may be comforted together by our mutual faithfulness. Now I would not that you should be ignorant, my brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was hindered thus far,) that I might have some fruit among you also; even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to Greeks, and Barbarians; both to the wise, and the unwise.
So, as for me, I am ready to preach the gospel to you also that are at Rome. For I count it my highest honor and glory to proclaim the gospel; for it is the power of Yahweh Elohim unto salvation to everyone that believes in it; to the Israelite first, and also to the Gentile. For in it is Yahweh Elohim’s righteousness revealed from faithfulness to faithfulness; as it stands written, “A righteous one, by his faithfulness, will live.”
For the wrath of Yahweh Elohim from heaven is revealed against all iniquity and wickedness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness; because a knowledge of Yahweh Elohim is manifest to them; for Yahweh Elohim manifested it to them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and holiness; to the end of their being without excuse; because that when they knew Yahweh Elohim, they glorified him not as Yahweh Elohim, neither were thankful; but they became vain in their reasoning’s, and their foolish heart was darkened.
And, while they thought within themselves that they were wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible Yahweh Elohim into an likeness of an image of corruptible man, and in the likeness of birds, and of four-footed beasts, and of creeping things on the earth. For this cause, Yahweh Elohim gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, that their bodies should be dishonored between themselves; since they changed the truth of Yahweh Elohim for the lie, and worshipped and served the things created more than the creator of them, who is the blessed one forever.
Believe. Because of this Yahweh Elohim gave them up unto passions of infamy; for even their women did change the natural use of their sex into that which is against nature; and likewise the men also having forsaken the natural use of the woman, were inflamed in their lust one toward another; men with men, committing shameful acts, and receiving back in themselves the recompense of their wrong action.
And as they did not consent in themselves to know Yahweh Elohim, Yahweh Elohim has given them over to a reprobate mind, to do the things which should not to be done; as, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of jealousy, murder, strife, deceit, disposition for mischief; calumniators, evil speakers, hateful to Yahweh Elohim, insolent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents; without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, pitiless; who knowing the righteous sentence of Yahweh Elohim, that they which practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but consent also to them that practice them.
Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, to judge your neighbor; for in judging your neighbor, you condemn yourself; for even you that judges, practices the same things. But we know that the judgment of Yahweh Elohim is according to the truth against them which practice such things. What do you think, O man? Do you think that you who judge those who practice such things, while practicing them yourself, that you will escape the judgment of Yahweh Elohim? Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance, and the opportunity which he has given you, not knowing that the goodness of Yahweh Elohim leads you to repentance?
But, because of the hardness of your unrepenting heart, you are laying up for yourself a treasure of wrath for the day of wrath and the revelation of the righteous judgment of Yahweh Elohim; who will recompense to each one according to his deeds: to them who according to patience in well doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, to them he will give life eternal; but to them that are of contention, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, he will render affliction and anguish, for every soul of man that works the evil, of the Israelite first, and of the Gentile; but glory, honor, and peace, to every man that does good, to the Israelite first, and to the Gentile; for there is no partiality with Yahweh Elohim: for those without the law, who sin, will perish also without the law; and those under the law, who sin, will be judged by the law, (for not the hearers of the law are righteous before Yahweh Elohim; but the doers of the law shall be justified; for if the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves: which show forth the work of the law, as it is inscribed in their hearts; their conscience bears witness therewith, when their thoughts either rebuke or defend one another;) in the day when Yahweh Elohim will judge the secret actions of men, by Yeshua the Messiah, as my gospel teaches.
But if you, who are called a Israelite, trust on the law, and glory in Yahweh Elohim, that you know his good pleasure, and know the things which must be observed, because you are instructed in the law; and are confident that you yourself are a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, and an instructor of those lacking knowledge, and a preceptor to the young, and you have the external form of knowledge and of the truth as embodied in the law: you therefore, which teach the other, but fail to teach yourself? You teach that men should not steal, do you steal? You that say not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery?
You that despise idols, yet you plunder the sanctuary? And you that glory your boast in the law, do you, by acting contrary to the law, insult Yahweh Elohim himself? “And when they entered unto the Gentiles, whither they went, they profaned my holy name,” as it stands written. For circumcision indeed profits, if you practice the law; but if you be a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
Therefore if the uncircumcision should keep the righteous requirements of the law, will not that uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision, which from its nature fulfills the law, judge you; who, while in possession of that which is written and circumcision are a transgressor of the law? For it is not the one who is outwardly a Israelite, who is the real Israelite; neither is circumcision, that which is visible in the flesh: but a real Israelite, is one who is inwardly so; and circumcision is of the heart, in character, and not in that which is written; whose praise is not of men, but of Yahweh Elohim.
What then is the advantage of the Israelite, or what is the profit of circumcision? Much according to every way: chiefly, because that they were entrusted with the utterances of Yahweh Elohim. For what if some did not believed? Shall their unbelief nullify the faithfulness of Yahweh Elohim? Let it not be: yea, let Yahweh Elohim be true, but every man a liar; as it stands written: “That you might be justified in your reproof, and be pure when you judge.” Now if our iniquity serves to establish the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim, what then shall we say? Shall Yahweh Elohim be unjust when he inflicts the wrath? (I speak as a man.)
Let it not be; for then how could Yahweh Elohim judge the world? For if the truth of Yahweh Elohim overflowed through my falsehood, unto his glory; why then am I to be judged as a sinner? Or shall we say as some have slanderously reported us to say: “We will do evil things, that good results may come;” the condemnation of such is reserved for eternal justice. What then, have we any excuse to put forward? Not at all: for we have before convicted both Israelites and Gentiles, to be all under sin; as it stands written: “For there is not a righteous man upon the earth, no, not one; Yahweh Elohim looked down from heaven upon the sons of Adam, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek Yahweh Elohim. They are all gone astray, they are all together become corrupt; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an opened sepulcher; they deceive with their tongues; adders’ poison is under their lips.
Their mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud; they run to evil, and they make hast to shed innocent blood; wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not. There is no fear of Elohim before their eyes.” Now we know that whatever things the law says, it is said to those who are under the law; so that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may become under penalty before Yahweh Elohim.
Therefore by works of the law, there shall no flesh be justified in his sight; for, by means of the law, is the knowledge of sin. But at this present time, the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim apart from the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; and the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim, which is by faithfulness in Yeshua the Messiah unto all them that believe: for there is no distinction; for all sinned, and come short of the glory of Yahweh Elohim; being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Yeshua the Messiah; whom Yahweh Elohim foreordained as a covering through faithfulness in his blood, for a declaration of his righteousness by reason of the passing over of sins that are past; by the opportunity which Yahweh Elohim has given us through his forbearance, for the manifestation of his righteousness at the present season, that we might be declared righteous; and for the justification of righteousness to us who are in the faithfulness of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Where then is glorying? It is annihilated. By what law? By that of works? Nay: but by a law of faithfulness. We therefore conclude that it is by faithfulness that a man is justified, and not by the works of law. For, is he the Yahweh Elohim of the Israelites only, and not of the Gentiles? Nay: of the Gentiles also; because there is, one Yahweh Elohim, who will justify the circumcision by faithfulness, and the uncircumcision by the same faithfulness. What then? Do we nullify the law by faithfulness? Let it not be; on the contrary, we establish the law. What then shall we say concerning Abraham our forefather, who lived according to the flesh before Yahweh Elohim called him? For, if Abraham was justified by works, he had ground of glorying; yet not before Yahweh Elohim. For what said the scripture? “And Abraham believed what he heard, and Yahweh counted it to him for righteousness.” But to him who works, wages are not considered as a favor, but as that which is due to him.
Whereas, to him that works not, but only believes in him that justifies sinners, his faithfulness is accounted to him for righteousness. Just as David also said about the blessedness of the man to whom Yahweh Elohim declared righteous apart from works, saying: “How happy is he whose rebellion is carried away, whose erring is atoned. How happy is the man unto whom Yahweh counts not sin in ones nature.”
This blessedness, therefore, is it on account of circumcision or on account of uncircumcision? For we say that Abraham’s faithfulness was accounted to him for righteousness. How then was it given to him? By means of circumcision, or in uncircumcision? It was not given in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. For he received circumcision as a sign and a seal of the righteousness of his faithfulness while he was uncircumcised, that he might become the father of all those who believe, though they be not circumcised, that righteousness might be accounted also to them, so that the father of the circumcision is not only to those who are of circumcision, but also to those who walk in the steps of the faithfulness of our father Abraham while he was yet uncircumcised.
For the promise to Abraham and to his seed, that he should become the heir of the world was not by the law, but by the righteousness of his faithfulness; for if they had become heirs by means of the law, then faithfulness would have been empty, and the promise made of none effect.
For the law is a worker of wrath; because where no law is, there is no transgression. On account of this it is by faithfulness that we will be justified by grace; to the end the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faithfulness of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it stands written: “For a father of many nations have I made you”) before him whom he believed, Yahweh Elohim; who makes alive the dead, and who calls those who are not yet in being, as though they were present. Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, “So shall your seed be.”
And being not weak in faithfulness, he considered his own body already dead, he being about an hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah's womb. He staggered not at the promise of Yahweh Elohim by unbelief; but was strong in faithfulness, giving glory to Yahweh Elohim; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able to perform also. Wherefore also his faithfulness was accounted to him for righteousness.
And not on account of him alone, was it written, that his faithfulness was accounted for righteousness; but on account of us also; because it is about to be accounted so to us believing in him that raised the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead; who was delivered up, on account of our offences, and was raised that he might justify us. Therefore being justified by faithfulness, we have peace with Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah; through whom we have obtained the introduction also by faithfulness into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of Yahweh Elohim.
And not only so, but we rejoice in the afflictions also; knowing that the afflictions works patience; and patience, experience; and experience, hope; and hope causes no one to be ashamed; because the love of Yahweh Elohim is poured into our hearts through power from on high which was given to us. But the Messiah at this season, because of our weaknesses, died for the sake of the wicked. Hardly would any man die for the sake of the wicked; but for the sake of the good, one might be willing to die. Yahweh Elohim has here manifested his love toward us, because, while we were yet sinners, the Messiah died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be delivered from the wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to Yahweh Elohim by the death of his son, much more being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
And not only so, but we also rejoice in Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, through whom we have now received reconciliation, restoration to favor. On account of this, just as by one man sin entered into the world, and, by means of sin, death; and so death passed through unto all men, because all sinned; (for until the law was given, though sin was in the world, it was not considered sin, because there was no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam’s transgression, who is a figure of the coming one. But the measure of the gift of Yahweh Elohim was not the measure of the fall. If therefore, because of the fall of one, many died, how much more will the grace and gift of Yahweh Elohim, because of one man, Yeshua the Messiah, be increased for many?
And the effect of the gift of Yahweh Elohim was greater than the effect of the offence of Adam; for while the judgment from one man’s offence resulted in condemnation of many, the gift of Yahweh Elohim of forgiveness of sins resulted in a righteous acquittal to many more. For if, on account of the offence of one, death reigned, how much more those who receive the abundance of grace, and of the gift of righteousness, shall reign in life, by means of one, Yeshua the Messiah.
So then as by means of one act of transgression sentence came upon all men unto condemnation, even so by means of one righteous act also came upon all men unto justification issuing in life. For as by one man’s disobedience the many were constituted sinners, so also by the obedience of one shall the many be constituted righteous. The introduction of the law caused sin to multiply, and when sin had multiplied, there grace superabounded. So that, as sin had reigned in death, so grace might reign in righteousness unto life eternal, by means of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. What shall we then say?
Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Let it not be. How shall we that died to sin, live any longer in it? Or do you not know, that we who are baptized into Yeshua the Messiah, were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him by baptism into death; so that like as the Messiah was raised from among the dead by the glorious power of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have become planted together with him in the likeness of his death, so shall we be also into his resurrection.
For we know, that our old man is crucified with him; so that the old nature which is the slave of sin might be annulled, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead to it, has been justified, cleared from the claims of sin. Now if we died together with the Messiah, let us believe that we shall live also with the Messiah. For we know that the Messiah having been raised from among the dead, and dies no more; and that death has no more dominion over him. For in dying, he died to sin once for all; and in living, he lives to Yahweh Elohim. Likewise, you also must consider yourself as being dead to sin, but alive to Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Therefore let not sin reign in your dead body, that you should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither should you yield your members as instruments of iniquity to sin; but yield yourselves to Yahweh Elohim, as those who have been resuscitated from the dead, and let your members be instruments of righteousness to Yahweh Elohim; for sin shall not have dominion over you; for you are no longer under the law, but under grace.
What then? Are we to sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? Let it not be. Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves servants for obedience, you are servants to him whom you obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But thanks to Yahweh Elohim that you, who were once the servants of sin, now obeyed from the heart that form of teaching which has been delivered to you. Having, then, been set free from sin, you were made bond-servants of righteousness.
I speak after the manner of men because of the weakness of your flesh; for as you have yielded your members servitude of uncleanness and iniquity, so now yield your members to the servitude of righteousness and holiness. For when you were the servants of sin, you were free with regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in those things in respect of which you are now ashamed? For the end thereof is death.
But now having, then, been set free from sin, and were made bond-servants to Yahweh Elohim, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end thereof is life eternal. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of Yahweh Elohim is life eternal through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
Do you not know, my brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law has dominion over the man for such time as he lives? Just as a woman is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives; but if the husband should have died, she is freed from the law of the husband. So then if, while the husband is alive, she should be attached to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband should have died, she is freed from the law; so that she is not an adulteress, though she becomes another man’s wife. Wherefore, my brethren, you also were put to death to the law by the crucified body of the Messiah; to the end that you might be joined to another, to him who was raised from among the dead; so that you may bring forth fruit to Yahweh Elohim.
For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions of sins, which were called out by the law, were active in our members, that we should bring forth fruit to death. But now we are delivered from the law, having died to that which held us in its grasp; so that we should serve in newness of the new nature, and not in the oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Let it not be. I would not have recognized it as sin, except by means of the law; for I would never have recognized the meaning of covetousness, had not the law said, “You shalt not covet.” So by means of this commandment, sin found an opportunity and provoked in me every kind of desire. For without the law, sin is dead. And I, without the law, was alive formerly; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life, and I died; and the commandment which was ordained to life, was itself found by me to be for death. For sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, deceived me, and thereby slew me. Wherefore, the law indeed is holy; and the commandment is holy, and righteous, and good.
Did, then, that which is good become death to me? Let it not be. But sin that is exposed as sin, and works out death in me for that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become utterly sinful. For we recognize that the law is good; but I am of the flesh enslave to sin. For that which I do, I approve not; and I do not practice the thing which I want, but I practice the thing which I hate. That is exactly what I do. So then if I do that which I do not wish to do, I can testify concerning the law that it is good. Now then it is not I who do it, but sin which dominates me. Yet I know that it does not fully dominate me (that is in my flesh); but as far as good is concerned, the choice is easy for me to make, but to do it is difficult for me. For the good that I would, I do not; but the evil which I would not, that I practice.
Now if I do that which I do not wish, then it is not I who do it, but the sin which dominates me. I find therefore that the law agrees with my conscience when I wish to do good, but evil is always near, distracting me; for I delight in the law of Yahweh Elohim after the inward man; but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and seeking to lead me captive to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who shall rescue me from the body of this death? I thank Yahweh Elohim; he will rescue me through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. So then with the mind indeed I myself serve the law of Yahweh Elohim; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore no condemnation, to them who, in Yeshua the Messiah, walk not after the flesh. For the new nature of life, which is in Yeshua Messiah, has freed me from the law of sin and death.
For the law was weak through the weakness of the flesh, Yahweh Elohim’s own son was born in the likeness of sin’s flesh, to be a sin offering, condemned sin by means of his flesh; so that the righteous requirements of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the old nature, but after the new nature.
For they who live after the old nature, set affection on the things of the old nature; and they who live after the new nature, set affection on the things of the new nature; for the minding of the flesh results in death; but the minding of the new nature results in life and peace. Because the minding of the flesh is enmity against Yahweh Elohim; for it does not submit itself to the law of Yahweh Elohim, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the old nature are not able to please Yahweh Elohim. You, however, are not in the old nature, but in the new nature, if so be that the new nature from Yahweh Elohim truly dwells in you. But if in anyone there is not the new nature of the Messiah, he is not of his.
And if the Messiah is in you, the body indeed is dead, in regard to sin; and the new nature is alive in regard to righteousness. And if the new nature from him that raised the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead, dwells in you, he that raised Yeshua the Messiah from among the dead, shall give life in your dead bodies also, because of his new nature that indwells in you. So then, my brethren, we are debtors, not to the old nature, that we should walk according to the old nature. For if you live after the old nature, you are about to die; but if, by the new nature, you are putting to death the practices of the body, you shall live. For as many as are led by the new nature from Yahweh Elohim, they are the sons of Yahweh Elohim. For you have not received a character of bondage to be in fear again; but you have received a character of sonship, in which we cry, “Father, our Father.”
The power from on high itself bears witness with our new nature, that we are the sons of Yahweh Elohim; and if sons, heirs also; heirs indeed of Yahweh Elohim, and joint-heirs with Yeshua the Messiah; so that, if we suffer with him, we shall be glorified together with him also; for I think, that the sufferings of the present season, are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed, with regard to us; for the earnest expectation of all mankind waits for the manifestation of the sons of Yahweh Elohim.
For man was made subject to disappointing misery, not willingly, but by reason of him who gave him free will in the hope he would choose rightly, because man himself shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of Yahweh Elohim. For we know that the whole creation is groaning together and travails together in pain until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the power from on high itself, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for sonship, that is, redemption of our bodies. For we live in hope; but hope that is seen is not hope: for if we saw it, how should we hope for it?
But if we hope for that which is not seen, then do we wait for it in patience. Likewise the power from on high itself also helps our weaknesses; for we do not know what is right and proper for us pray for; but the power from on high itself prays with that earnestness which cannot be described. But the explorer of hearts; it knows what is the mind of the new nature; because it prays for the saints, agreeably to the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim. But we know that all things work together for good to them that love Yahweh Elohim, to them who are the called according to his purpose, for he knew them in advance, and he marked them with the likeness of the image of his son, unto his being the first-born among many brethren.
Moreover, those whom he marked in advance, he has called, and those whom he has called, he has declared righteous, and those whom he has declared righteous, he has glorified.
What shall we then say concerning these things? If Yahweh Elohim is for us, who is against us? And, if he spared not his son, but gave him up for us all, how shall he not give us all things, with him? Who will set himself against the chosen of Yahweh Elohim? Shall Yahweh Elohim who justifies them? Who is it that condemns?
The Messiah died, and was raised, and is on the right hand of Yahweh Elohim, and makes intercession for us. What will sever us from the love of the Messiah? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or the sword? Even as it stands written: “Surely, for your sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter;” but in all these things we are more than conquerors, through him who loved us. For I have been persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else created, shall be able to sever us from the love of Yahweh Elohim, which is in the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah.
I tell the truth through the Messiah, and do not misrepresent; and my conscience also bearing me witness through the power from on high, that I am exceedingly sorrowful, and the sadness of my heart is unceasing. For I used to wish that myself were accursed from the Messiah for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: who are Israelites; to whom belongs the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law and the rituals therein, and the promises, and the fathers; from among whom the Messiah appeared, who is the son of Yahweh Elohim, who is over all; to whom are due praises and thanksgiving, forever and ever; believe.
It is not as though the word of Yahweh Elohim had actually failed. For all those who belong to Israel, are not Israelites; neither are they all sons, because they are of the seed of Abraham: for it was said, “In Isaac shall your descendants be called.” That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of Yahweh Elohim; but the children of the promise are accounted as descendants. For this is the word of promise: “At the time appointed I will return unto you, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.” And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, our father Isaac; (before her children were born or had done good or evil, the choice of Yahweh Elohim was made know in advance; that it might stand, not by means of works, but of him who called;) for it was said: “And the elder shall serve the younger;” as it stands written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I set aside.” What shall we say then? Is there injustice with Yahweh Elohim? Let it not be.
For he said to Moses also: “I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.” So then it is not of him that willed, nor of him that runs, but of Yahweh Elohim that shows mercy. For in the scripture, he said to Pharaoh: “And in very deed for this cause have I made you to stand, for to show in you my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.” Wherefore, he has mercy upon whom he pleases, and whom he pleases, he hardens. But, perhaps you will say: “Why does he yet find fault? For who can resist his will?” however, O man, who are you to question Yahweh Elohim?
“Shall the clay say to him that fashions it, ‘What makes you?’ or your work, ‘He has no hands?’” Does not the potter have power of his clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if Yahweh Elohim, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath, pieced up together, as a broken vessel to perdition; and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory; us whom he called, not of the Israelites only, but of the Gentiles also? As he said in Hosea also: “I will say to them which were not my people, ‘You are my people;’ and they shall say, ‘You are my Elohim.’” “And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, ‘You are not my people,’ there it shall be said unto them, ’You are the sons of the living El.’” Isaiah also proclaimed over the children of Israel: “For though your people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the finish decreed shall overflow in righteousness.
For Adonai Yahweh of hosts shall make a consummation, even decreed, in the midst of the land;” just as Isaiah had said before, “Except Yahweh of Hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.” What shall we say than? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, obtained righteousness, that is the righteousness which is the result of faithfulness. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law righteousness. Why? Because they sought it not by faithfulness, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling-stone; as it stands written, “Behold, I have laid in Zion for a foundation a stone, a test stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believes shall have no need for hurried flight.”
My brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to Yahweh Elohim for them is for salvation; for I bear them witness, that there is in them a zeal for Yahweh Elohim; but it is not according to knowledge; for they being ignorant of Yahweh Elohim’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves to the righteousness of Yahweh Elohim; for the Messiah is the end of the law, for righteousness to everyone that believes. For Moses describes the righteousness which is of the law, that: “Which, if the man shall do them, he shall also live again by them.” But the righteousness which is of faithfulness speaks on this wise: “It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?’
Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?’” But what does it said? “But the word is very near to you, in your mouth, and in your heart, that you may do it:” that is, the word of faithfulness which we proclaim; that if you will confess with your mouth Yeshua as the Messiah, and will believe in your heart that Yahweh Elohim raised him from among the dead; you shall be saved. For with the heart it is believed unto righteousness; and with the mouth it is confessed unto salvation. For the scripture says: “He that believes shall have no need for hurried flight.”
For there is no difference between the Israelites and the Gentiles; for the same Messiah of all is rich unto all that call upon him. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear apart from one preaching? And how shall they preach, if they are not sent forth? As it stands written: “How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that brings good tidings, that publishes peace, that brings good tidings of good;” but all of them have not obeyed the proclamation of the good news; for Isaiah said: “Who rested on the hearing of us?” So then faithfulness is from the hearing of the ear; and the hearing of the ear, is from the word of Yahweh Elohim. But I say: Have they not heard? Yes indeed, “Their inheritance is gone out through all the earth and their teachings to the end of the world.” But I say: Did not Israel know? First Moses said: “And I will move them to jealousy with those which are no people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.” But Isaiah is very bold, and said: “I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not.” But to Israel he said: “I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people.”
I say then: Did Yahweh Elohim thrust aside his people? Let it not be. For I indeed am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Yahweh Elohim did not thrust aside his people which he foreknew. Do you not know what the scripture says of Elijah? How he makes intercession to Yahweh Elohim against Israel, saying: “For the sons of Israel have forsaken your covenant, thrown down your altars, and slain your prophets with the sword; and I, even I only am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.” But what said the answer of Yahweh Elohim to him? “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which has not kissed to him.” Even so then at the present season also a remnant is preserved, elected by grace.
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. What then? Israel has not obtain that which it sought; but elected ones have obtained it, and the rest of them were hardened in their heart, (according as it stands written: “For Yahweh has poured out upon you the character of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes” unto this very day. And David said: “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.” I say then: Have they so stumbled as to fall entirely?
Let it not be; but rather by their stumbling salvation is come to the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. And if their stumbling has resulted in riches to the world, and their condemnation in riches to the Gentiles; how much more is their restoration? It is to you Gentiles that I speak, inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, and perhaps glorify my ministry; but if I am able to make those who are my flesh jealous, I might save some of them. For if their rejection has resulted in reconciliation of the world, how much more will their restoration be? Indeed it will be life from the dead. For if the first-fruit is holy, the rest of the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were cut off, and you who are a branch of a wild olive tree have been grafted in their place, and you have become a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree; boast not against the branches. For if you boast, it is not you who sustain the root, but the root sustains you. Perhaps you may say, “Branches were cut off, that I might be grafted in their place.”
Well; because of unbelief they were cut off, and you stand by faithfulness. Be not arrogant, but fear; for if Yahweh Elohim did not spare the natural branches, it may well be he will not spare you. Consider therefore the goodness and severity of Yahweh Elohim: on those who fell, severity; but on you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for Yahweh Elohim is able to graft them in again. For if you who have been cut from the wild olive tree, which is natural to you, and grafted contrary to your nature to become a good olive tree; how much more fruitful would they be, if they were grafted into their natural olive tree? And that you, my brethren, may not be wise in your own apprehension, I wish you to know this secret, that hardness of heart has in some measure befallen Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles shall come in: and then all Israel shall be saved; as it stands written: “And a redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob;” “As for me, this is my covenant with them, said Yahweh.”
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies on account of your sakes; but as concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For Yahweh Elohim does not withdraw his gift and his call. Just as you were formerly disobedient to Yahweh Elohim, and have now obtained mercy because of their disobedience; likewise, they are also disobedient now to the mercy which is upon you, that there may be mercy upon them also. For Yahweh Elohim has included all men in disobedience, that he might have mercy upon every man. O the depth of the riches, both of the wisdom and knowledge of Yahweh Elohim!
How inscrutable are his judgments, and his ways untraceable! For who knew the mind of Yahweh? Or who became his fellow-counselor? Or who gave first to him, and it shall be repaid to him? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory forever and ever. Believe. I beseech you therefore, my brethren, by the mercies of Yahweh Elohim, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, well-pleasing to Yahweh Elohim, by means of reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world; but be you transformed by the renewing of the mind: to your proving what is the good, and well-pleasing, and perfect pleasure of Yahweh Elohim. For I say, through the grace which is given to me, to all of you, not to think of yourselves beyond what you ought to think; but to think soberly, as Yahweh Elohim has imparted to each one his measure of faithfulness. For as we have many members in one body, and all the members have not the same function; so we, being many, are one body in the Messiah, and are naturally members of each other; but having functions differing according to the grace that is given to us.
There is that of prophecy, according to the measure of the faithfulness; and there is that of ministration, in their ministry; and there is that of a teacher, in his teaching; and there is that of consolation, in consoling; and that of a giver, with simplicity; and that of a presider, with diligence; he that shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Let love be unfeigned. Abhorring the evil; cleaving to the good. Be kindly affectionate one to another with love for the brethren; in every honorable matter, leading one another on; be active, and not slothful; be fervent in the character; serving the anointed of Yahweh; rejoicing in the hope; be patient under your afflictions; continuing steadfastly in prayer; distributing to the necessity of the saints; pursuing kindness to strangers. Bless them that persecute you; bless, and curse not. Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. Be of the same mind one toward another.
Mind not vain glory, but associate with those who are humble. Be not wise in your own eyes. And repay to no one evil for evil; but be diligent to do good things before the presence of all men. If it is possible, as much as lies in you, be at peace with all men. And be you not avengers of yourselves, my beloved; but give place to the wrath; for it stands written: “Is not this laid up in store with me, sealed up in my treasuries, for the day of vengeance and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip.”
Therefore if your enemy hunger, give him bread to eat; if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: for you shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. Be not overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Let every soul be subject to the sovereign authorities. For there is no authority which is not under Yahweh Elohim; and the authorities which exist are established by Yahweh Elohim. Whosoever therefore opposes the civil authority, opposes the establishment of Yahweh Elohim; and they who oppose them, shall receive judgment to themselves; for judges are not a terror to good deeds, but to evil deeds. Now if you wish not to be afraid of the authority, then do good, and you will be praised for it. For the ruler is a minister of Yahweh Elohim to you for good.
But if you do that which is wrong, be afraid; for he is not girded with the sword in vain; for he is a minister of Yahweh Elohim, and an avenger of wrath upon those who practices evil things. And therefore, it is necessary for us to be obedient, not only on account of the wrath, but likewise on account of the conscience. For, for this reason you pay tribute also; for they are Yahweh Elohim’s ministers, persevering upon this very thing. Render therefore, to everyone as is due to him; head tax to him who is in charge of head tax, duty to him who is in charge of taxes; reverence to whom reverence is due, and honor to whom honor is due. And owe nothing to anyone; but to love one another; for he that loves his neighbor, has fulfilled law. For this likewise, which it said: “You shalt not kill; nor commit adultery; nor steal; nor bear false witness; nor covet;” and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in the saying: “You shalt love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no evil to one’s neighbor; because love is fullness of the law.
And this also know you, that it is the season and the hour, that we should henceforth be awakened from our sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than when we believed. The night is advanced, the day is drawn nigh: let us therefore cast off from us the works of the darkness, and let us put on the armor of the light. Let us walk decently, as in the daylight; not in clamor and drunkenness, not in the practice of immorality, not in jealousy and strife. But clothe yourselves with the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, and be not thoughtful about your old nature, for the indulgence of appetites. To him that is weak in the faithfulness, reach forth the hand, not to criticizings of his thoughts.
The one indeed believes that he may eat all things; the other, who is weak, eats herbs. Let not him that eats despise him that eats not; and let not him which eats not; judge him that eats; for Yahweh Elohim received him. Who are you to judge another man’s servant? For if he is a success, he is a success to his master; and if he is a failure, he is a failure to his master. As for his success, he will succeed, for it is in the power of his master to make him succeed. The one indeed values one day above another; another values all days alike. But let everyone be sure, in regard to his knowledge. He who is mindful concerning a day’s duty is considerate of his master; and everyone who is not mindful concerning a day’s duty is inconsiderate of his master. And he who is wasteful is detrimental to his master, even though he confesses it to Yahweh Elohim; and he, who is not wasteful, is not wasteful to his master, yet he likewise tells it to Yahweh Elohim. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself.
For whether we live, we live to the anointed of Yahweh; and whether we die, we die to the anointed of Yahweh; whether we live therefore, or die, we belong to the anointed of Yahweh. For unto this Yeshua died and lives; to be the Messiah both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or, why do you despise your brother? For we must all stand before the judgment seat of Yahweh Elohim. For it stands written: “I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.” So then, each one of us must give an account of himself to Yahweh Elohim.
Let us no longer therefore judge one another; but rather be mindful of this, not to put a stumbling-block or an occasion to fall in the way of your brother. For I know, and am persuaded by Yahweh Elohim, that there is nothing which is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him only is it unclean. But now if you have caused your brother to grieve on account of meat, then you are not living in harmony. Do not make meat a cause to destroy a man for whose sake the Messiah died. Let not our blessings be a matter of reproach to anyone; for the sovereignty of Yahweh Elohim is not eating and drinking; but of righteousness, and peace, and joy in the new nature. For he who serves the Messiah in these things is well-pleasing to Yahweh Elohim, and approved by men. Let us therefore pursue after the things of the peace, and the things of mutual edifying. And let us not, because of meat, destroy the work of Yahweh Elohim. All things indeed are clean; yet it is evil, to the man who eats with stumbling.
It is better that we neither eat meat, nor drink wine, nor do any other thing whereby we cause our brother to stumble, or is offended, or is made weak. Have you faithfulness? Have it as concerning yourself in the sight of Yahweh Elohim. Happy is he that judges not himself in that which he allows.
But he that doubts is condemned if he eats, because he eats not of faithfulness; and whatsoever is not of faithfulness, is sin. And we that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not seek to please ourselves. Let each of us please the neighbor, in good things, as conducive to edification. For even the Messiah pleased not himself; but, as it stands written: “The reproaches of them that reproach you are fallen upon me.” For whatsoever things were written aforetime, were written for our teaching, that we, through patient endurance and the comfort of the scriptures may have the hope. Now the Yahweh Elohim of patient endurance and the comfort, grant to you, to think in harmony among yourselves, through the example of Yeshua the Messiah; so that with one accord, with one mouth, glorify Yahweh Elohim, even the Father of the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah. Wherefore receive you one another, as the Messiah also received us to the glory of Yahweh Elohim. For I say that Yeshua the Messiah has become a minister to the circumcision, for the truth of Yahweh Elohim, for the confirming of the promises made to the fathers; and for the Gentiles to glorify Yahweh Elohim for his mercies which were poured upon them, as it stands written: “Therefore will I give thanks unto you, O Yahweh, among the Gentile peoples, and sing praises unto your name.”
And again he said: “Rejoice, O you Gentiles, with his people.” And again: “O praise Yahweh himself, all you Gentiles; and highly extol him, all you peoples.” Now the Yahweh Elohim of the hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, unto your abounding in the hope, through the power of the power from on high. And I myself am persuaded concerning you, my brethren, that you also are full of goodness, and filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. But I wrote the more freely to you partly, as reminding you, because of the grace that is given to me by Yahweh Elohim, for me to be a minister of Yeshua the Messiah to the Gentiles, to minister as a priest the gospel of grace of Yahweh Elohim, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be accepted, being sanctified by the power from on high.
I have therefore a glorying through Yeshua the Messiah, in the things pertaining to Yahweh Elohim. For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which the Messiah has not wrought by me, for the obedience of the Gentiles, by word and in deeds, by the power of signs and wonders through the power from on high; so that from Jerusalem, and round about as far as Illyricum, and have fulfilled the announcement of the Messiah; while I earnestly endeavoring not to preach where the name of the Messiah had been invoked, because I did not want to build upon another’s foundation; but, as it stands written: “They to whom it had not been told shall see; and they which had not heard shall consider.” For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. But now, since I have no place in these regions, and as I have been desirous for many years past to come unto you; when I go to Spain, I will come to you; for I trust to see you in my journey, and that you will escort me thence after I have more or less fully enjoyed my visit. But I am now going unto Jerusalem ministering to the saints; for it pleased Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor of the saints which are at Jerusalem.
They have been eager to do it, because they are indebted to them; for if the Gentiles have been made partakers with them of their promises, they are indebted to minister to them in material things. When, therefore, I have accomplished this, and have finished distributing to them this kind of help, I will cross over toward you on my way to Spain. And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the Messiah. Now I beseech you, my brethren, for the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah’s sake, and by the love of Yahweh Elohim, that you should strive together with me in prayers to Yahweh Elohim for me; that I may be delivered from them that are disobedient in Judah; and that the assistance which I carry to the saints in Jerusalem may be well accepted; and that, by the good pleasure of Yahweh Elohim, I may come unto you with joy, and together with you be refreshed. Now the Yahweh Elohim of the peace be with you all. Believe.
I commend to you Phebe, our sister, who is a servant of the assembly which is at Cenchrea; that you receive her in the anointed of Yahweh, worthily of the saints, and that you stand by her in whatsoever thing she may have need of you; for she has been a great help to many people, and of myself also. Salute Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow-laborers in Yeshua the Messiah; who, for my life, surrendered their own necks; and to whom, not only I am grateful, but also all the assemblies of the Gentiles. Likewise salute the assembly that is in their house. Salute my well beloved Epaenetus, who was the first-fruits of Achaia unto the Messiah.
Salute Mary, who has labored hard among you. Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, and well-known among the apostles, who before me also were in the Messiah. Salute Amplias, my well beloved in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Urbane, our fellow-laborer in the Messiah, and Stachys my well beloved. Salute Apelles, the approved in the Messiah. Salute them which are of those from among the ones of Aristobulus. Salute Herodion, my kinsman. Salute them that are of the household of Narcissus, who are in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labored in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute the well beloved Persis, who labored hard in the anointed of Yahweh. Salute Rufus, the elect brother in the anointed of Yahweh, and his mother and mine. Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them. Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.
Salute one another with a kiss of love. All the assemblies of Yahweh Elohim salute you. Now I beseech you, my brethren, to mark them which cause factions and stumbling-blocks contrary to the doctrine which you learned; and turn away from them. For they that are such, do not serve the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah, but their own belly; and by their fine words and flatteries deceive thoroughly the hearts of the guileless. But your obedience is known to everyone. I rejoice therefore on your behalf: but I wish you indeed to be wise to that which is the good, and harmless concerning the evil. And the Yahweh Elohim of peace shall crush in pieces Satan under your feet with speed. The grace through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah be with you. Timothy, my fellow-laborer, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, salute you.
I Tertius, who wrote this letter, salute you in the anointed of Yahweh. Gaius my host, and host of the whole assembly, salutes you. Erastus, the treasurer of the city, salutes you; and Quartus a brother. Now unto Yahweh Elohim, who is able to establish you, (according to my gospel, which is proclaimed concerning Yeshua the Messiah; and according to the revelation of the secret, which was hidden from the times that are past, but is at this time revealed, by means of the scriptures of the prophets; and by the command of the eternal Yahweh Elohim, is made know to all the Gentiles, for the obedience of faithfulness;) for Yahweh Elohim is the only wise one, to him be the glory, through Yeshua the Messiah, forever and ever. Believe.
The grace of Yahweh Elohim through the anointed of Yahweh, Yeshua the Messiah be with you all. Believe.
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Whew! Thanks Dot!
Hmmm, this was written in Greek originally as Oak pointed out so I'm not sure where or even if God was given more than one name in this book. But I do know that unlike the OT Romans was written after the coming of Jesus and would probably have referrence to him at some point. So it would be irresponsible to simply not consider him for the title 'Lord' when studying the material. Everything of course must be understood within the context, but we must remember that part of that context is going to be the life, death and works of Jesus the Christ.
And no the Greeks did not have a 3 in 1 god concept for Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. They barely acknowledged the existance of any of them. If I remember correctly, it was the Romans some 3-4 hundred years after the death of Jesus that devised the 3 in 1 plan. Certainly the seeds of the whole thing were being sown early on and Romans does address the issue/ problem of making Jesus into God but it wasnt until the Council of Niceae that it was made official with the Nicean Creed.
Tell us your views on the topic Zoe.
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O-o-o-o-o-o Kay... :blink: :huh:
So - the title of the thread reads "Romans - let's study this!" The first post was apparently the whole book of Romans.
Zoe? I'd say "lets" implies you're going to be involved somehow.
What exactly do you mean by "study"? So you want everyone to break out their concordances and interlinears and perhaps the literals according to usage (or mis-usage, as the case may be)?
What doctrinal discussion are you wanting to start?
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is it spam?
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