donated labor isn't tax deductible, unlike the tangible donation of land. I'd also be interested to know how many tangible donations (i.e. furniture, materials, etc.) got funneled through harry's business so it worked out as a personal write-off to him.
A relative of Mr. Garden's inherited a farm of similar size in the same area in the mid-1970's and sold it a few years later for $250,000 so I would say the value of the 147 acres the was the original Wierwille farm was more than that by then, considering all the development.
A relative of Mr. Garden's inherited a farm of similar size in the same area in the mid-1970's and sold it a few years later for $250,000 so I would say the value of the 147 acres the was the original Wierwille farm was more than that by then, considering all the development.
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Your point is well taken..........but the difference in land prices in 1959 as opposed to land prices in 1980 (?) would undoubtedly be a substantial difference.
I suppose there is a website somewhere to track ohio land prices....if one were so inclined.
Wish I could buy a new car today..........for a 1988 price.
shelby county tax records would give the value of the farm at the time of the transfer... or should, anyway. at any rate, they exchanged a small, decrepit farm in the middle of nowhere for tax write-offs and free labor to fix it up, then vpw lived there the rest of his life for free, + benefits.
shelby county tax records would give the value of the farm at the time of the transfer... or should, anyway. at any rate, they exchanged a small, decrepit farm in the middle of nowhere for tax write-offs and free labor to fix it up, then vpw lived there the rest of his life for free, + benefits.
Yeah.........tax write-off and free labor and decades of CHEAP labor.
Looking back at all this......it's like, twi's "ministry" and "family farm" simply fronted the laundering of monies and lives as wierwille soaked up the perks of unaccountable living.
Wierwille's "family farm" played to his favor THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE........1) talking about the wierwille heritage, 2) the way woods and campfire area, 3) the brc (the spiritual epicenter.....hahaha) and 4) "home-coming" at the roa......all adding to youthful attachment to wierwille's ideals and deception. In so many ways, wierwille masterfully played "our heart-strings and associations" to elevate this "holy ground" as he had.
considering that young vicster didn't really want to work the land.. i.e.. continue in pa's stead, and run the farm.. wouldn't ownership of the land be not unlike an Albatross about the young victoid's neck?
what better "arrangement" than to deed it to a "corporation".. and still receive revenue.. without having to EVER produce yet one more day of honest labor..
of course, that's probably what you're trying to say..
The real estate prices of the 1950s were as has been said low.In Mi you could buy 40 acres house barn out buildings,for less than 8 thousand dollars.
So to vic,Having a product to sell,low overhead,no taxes for life!Set up a "christian church"where at best,was barley accepted,1950s remember?
The growth of the 60s and 70s must have been a dream come true,why he went from a man,to a guy who took the place of the absent christ.
Wealth?Why suddenly he can buy what he wants,motorhomes,motorcycles,ect....Some sacrifice,rip someones material,put your label on it,
donate the farm you did not want to work,wala.
I do not think he ever thought a wierwille would not have control,ego I guess,Once martin craig got control ,he thoght it was his,rosie convinced him other wise.
skyrider - a lot of good points. my main point in the quote was to contrast RFR's behavior of keeping ownership of her own home built with the same kind of manual labor you describe accurately on vp's farm.
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donated labor isn't tax deductible, unlike the tangible donation of land. I'd also be interested to know how many tangible donations (i.e. furniture, materials, etc.) got funneled through harry's business so it worked out as a personal write-off to him.
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A relative of Mr. Garden's inherited a farm of similar size in the same area in the mid-1970's and sold it a few years later for $250,000 so I would say the value of the 147 acres the was the original Wierwille farm was more than that by then, considering all the development.
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Your point is well taken..........but the difference in land prices in 1959 as opposed to land prices in 1980 (?) would undoubtedly be a substantial difference.
I suppose there is a website somewhere to track ohio land prices....if one were so inclined.
Wish I could buy a new car today..........for a 1988 price.
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shelby county tax records would give the value of the farm at the time of the transfer... or should, anyway. at any rate, they exchanged a small, decrepit farm in the middle of nowhere for tax write-offs and free labor to fix it up, then vpw lived there the rest of his life for free, + benefits.
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Yeah.........tax write-off and free labor and decades of CHEAP labor.
Looking back at all this......it's like, twi's "ministry" and "family farm" simply fronted the laundering of monies and lives as wierwille soaked up the perks of unaccountable living.
Wierwille's "family farm" played to his favor THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE........1) talking about the wierwille heritage, 2) the way woods and campfire area, 3) the brc (the spiritual epicenter.....hahaha) and 4) "home-coming" at the roa......all adding to youthful attachment to wierwille's ideals and deception. In so many ways, wierwille masterfully played "our heart-strings and associations" to elevate this "holy ground" as he had.
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considering that young vicster didn't really want to work the land.. i.e.. continue in pa's stead, and run the farm.. wouldn't ownership of the land be not unlike an Albatross about the young victoid's neck?
what better "arrangement" than to deed it to a "corporation".. and still receive revenue.. without having to EVER produce yet one more day of honest labor..
of course, that's probably what you're trying to say..
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The real estate prices of the 1950s were as has been said low.In Mi you could buy 40 acres house barn out buildings,for less than 8 thousand dollars.
So to vic,Having a product to sell,low overhead,no taxes for life!Set up a "christian church"where at best,was barley accepted,1950s remember?
The growth of the 60s and 70s must have been a dream come true,why he went from a man,to a guy who took the place of the absent christ.
Wealth?Why suddenly he can buy what he wants,motorhomes,motorcycles,ect....Some sacrifice,rip someones material,put your label on it,
donate the farm you did not want to work,wala.
I do not think he ever thought a wierwille would not have control,ego I guess,Once martin craig got control ,he thoght it was his,rosie convinced him other wise.
Rosie in charge,She is a prophetess,dont ya know?
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Here are a few examples of 1959 living......
1959 Mansfield Ohio
4 bedrooms kitchen with built in stove and range large family room and outbuildings on 25 acres
$15,500
Cost of Living 1959
How Much things cost in 1959
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 1.01%
Yearly Inflation Rate UK 0.9%
Average Cost of new house $12,400.00
Average Yearly Wages $5,010.00
Cost of a gallon of Gas 25 cents
Average Cost of a new car $2,200.00
Movie Ticket $1.00
Loaf of Bread 20 cents
Kodak Movie camera $67.50
Ladies Stockings $1.00
Average House Price 2,410
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I wish I bought a house then--
Stockings have not gone up THAT much....
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skyrider - a lot of good points. my main point in the quote was to contrast RFR's behavior of keeping ownership of her own home built with the same kind of manual labor you describe accurately on vp's farm.
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