but "The Way" was largely confined to a few adults in Ohio until 1968 when two former drug users from the Jesus movement, Steve Heefner in New York, and Jim Doop in California, joined Wierwille to take "The Way" to both coasts. Soon the movement gained a conservatively estimated 20,000 adherents, distributed among all fifty states and thirty-three foreign countries, say its leaders.(4) By 1980, the followers were numbered at 40,000.
I think we would have been better off without lil vpw and "his' lies. Seems like those two guys had it going on.
but "The Way" was largely confined to a few adults in Ohio until 1968 when two former drug users from the Jesus movement, Steve Heefner in New York, and Jim Doop in California, joined Wierwille to take "The Way" to both coasts. Soon the movement gained a conservatively estimated 20,000 adherents, distributed among all fifty states and thirty-three foreign countries, say its leaders.(4) By 1980, the followers were numbered at 40,000.
I think we would have been better off without lil vpw and "his' lies. Seems like those two guys had it going on.
No, maybe Steve Hefner is [name of GS poster deleted].
Vpw was a theif set out to kill steal and destroy,he was a parrot teaching the same thing over and over and over again and makingmore parrots through pfal and other classes.
Stepford robot people who ran the pay toll bridges as OUR lives passed from the fountain of our youth,the ticket got us
Well, he lives in New York, he is a very old PFAL grad, he knows almost every thing from VPW,TWI, and the Bible. It is a possibility.
Steve Heefner hasn't lived in New York since the '70s. He was a disc jockey in California before he got involved with TWI and went back there after he split from TWI. Last I heard he was still a DJ in CA, but that was some time ago.
Anonymity being what it is, yeah, who knows. But Steve and his wife Sandy live on the West Coast and don't post to GS. Well, who knows. But they don't.
Steve's "retired", isn't a part of any "ex-Way" community "keep-moving'-the-Word-of-PFAL" stuff and I wouldn't try to imply that to him unless you want a - well, just don't. He and Sandy continue to pursue the Word of God and spreading it in their own wonderful ways and have long since left any connection to the Way or VPW. Trust me on that one. They definitely have great big hearts for people and friends, and always have.
Jim's waiting the Return at this stage of his life. Look for a tall guy with a rakish grin, twirling his mustache. :)
themex, I think you've got a valid interest and good heart about what you're asking. There is a sense of the larger, extended family of people that have continued onward in their endeavors in "spreading" and more importantly "living" the Word in all capacities of life and work. You'd probably do well to make contact with some of the ministries that are listed around here, to see more clearly what they're doing now, too.
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Interesting.
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but "The Way" was largely confined to a few adults in Ohio until 1968 when two former drug users from the Jesus movement, Steve Heefner in New York, and Jim Doop in California, joined Wierwille to take "The Way" to both coasts. Soon the movement gained a conservatively estimated 20,000 adherents, distributed among all fifty states and thirty-three foreign countries, say its leaders.(4) By 1980, the followers were numbered at 40,000.
I think we would have been better off without lil vpw and "his' lies. Seems like those two guys had it going on.
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No, maybe Steve Hefner is [name of GS poster deleted].
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You think so????? :unsure:
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Well, he lives in New York, he is a very old PFAL grad, he knows almost every thing from VPW,TWI, and the Bible. It is a possibility.
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:) Maybe he will spill the beans But I am not holding my breath.
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Bolshevik
There was a rift in time and space.
Then a baboon took a dump on it.
That is the history of twi.
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OMG, I feel like I just saw Elvis.
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LOL wanders off to thread stalk [name of GS poster deleted].
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Vpw was a theif set out to kill steal and destroy,he was a parrot teaching the same thing over and over and over again and makingmore parrots through pfal and other classes.
Stepford robot people who ran the pay toll bridges as OUR lives passed from the fountain of our youth,the ticket got us
no where near the other side of abundent life!
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Steve Heefner hasn't lived in New York since the '70s. He was a disc jockey in California before he got involved with TWI and went back there after he split from TWI. Last I heard he was still a DJ in CA, but that was some time ago.
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Anonymity being what it is, yeah, who knows. But Steve and his wife Sandy live on the West Coast and don't post to GS. Well, who knows. But they don't.
Steve's "retired", isn't a part of any "ex-Way" community "keep-moving'-the-Word-of-PFAL" stuff and I wouldn't try to imply that to him unless you want a - well, just don't. He and Sandy continue to pursue the Word of God and spreading it in their own wonderful ways and have long since left any connection to the Way or VPW. Trust me on that one. They definitely have great big hearts for people and friends, and always have.
Jim's waiting the Return at this stage of his life. Look for a tall guy with a rakish grin, twirling his mustache. :)
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This thread has been edited to remove speculation about the identity of a GreaseSpot poster.
I'm sure no harm was intended, but please don't reveal or post guesses about GSC members' real identities.
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ok
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And puuulease....don't guess about mine either. :D
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I am my own Grandpa. There, it's out.
themex, I think you've got a valid interest and good heart about what you're asking. There is a sense of the larger, extended family of people that have continued onward in their endeavors in "spreading" and more importantly "living" the Word in all capacities of life and work. You'd probably do well to make contact with some of the ministries that are listed around here, to see more clearly what they're doing now, too.
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god i loved the ROA.
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