Don't enemies seek to harm you? Why would it be good to let yourself be harmed if you had the power to avoid it? And speaking as a mom, if I am harmed, it hurts my children, also. So what is the benefit of that?
Love your enemies--can't you do that without letting them harm you?
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cman
And I don't mean to give into a person's will, btw.
Maybe it's not stated correctly, but it's more of a seeing another perspective that hasn't been considered for one reason or more.
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cman
I wonder if love your enemies means something different then surrender as in not fighting but understanding.
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Don't enemies seek to harm you? Why would it be good to let yourself be harmed if you had the power to avoid it? And speaking as a mom, if I am harmed, it hurts my children, also. So what is the benefit of that?
Love your enemies--can't you do that without letting them harm you?
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No, don't let yourself be harmed. I thought I was clear on that.
But to deal with our own enemies in the mind.
Even if these are seen in others as well as ourselves.
Not surrendering to get run over,
but to understand and learn.
To quit fighting whatever it is,
in order to see more clearly.
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Bramble
I would call that empathy.
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well yeah, sort of except it's your enemies
things like attitudes, fears, feelings, etc....
or perceptions even
empathy is about someone else
this is about your own enemies
which is quite personal
just thinking, seems not much else happening down here....
i'm not attacking or telling anyone what o do
though feedback is cool
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cman
Take the fear of death for instance.
If you fear it or anxious about it.
Most don't want to think about it till they have to.
But anyway, surrendering to death, would be accepting it.
Not to bring it on but to not fear it anymore.
If we surrender to it, it could teach us about itself.
Since death is an enemy to some and so stated in the bible.
I thought I would pick it.
So we are to love our enemies, so the bible says also.
How to do it?
Would surrendering come into play or not.
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cman
Check this out-you will have to download it.
It's a powerpoint file.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/198326/Power
I'm not recruiting or some bs.
I don't know what you guys think.
Whatever...I'm just wingin it.
If you get anything from this, fine.
If not, that's fine too.
ttyl
got this from here-
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/448808/Power-Process---surrender
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HAPe4me
what if we ARE the enemy?
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