Some of these might be common to Christianity in general, or at least extremely dogmatic versions of Christianity (and other religions too for that matter. )
A grand sense of spiritual superiority (maybe political parties too)
One verse answers to life.
Immediate acquiescence to anyone in authority, regardless of the rightness or wrongness of their request.
A heightened sense of entitlement stemming from supposed higher knowledge of the Bible.
A willingness to argue that Granola really does taste better with apple juice instead of milk. (Now that one's just funny )
In my opinion, Waybrain is characterized by an unthinking reflex to do something, or say something only because it was learned in TWI, without having independently verified whether somethiong was indeed true.
An example of Waybrain in myself is that I consistantly arrive 10 - 15 minutes early for things, not because I think it's a good idea, (and it often isa good idea) but because I've had it drilled into me for several decades.
Some of these might be common to Christianity in general, or at least extremely dogmatic versions of Christianity (and other religions too for that matter. )
In my opinion, Waybrain is characterized by an unthinking reflex to do something, or say something only because it was learned in TWI, without having independently verified whether something was indeed true.
I agree Oakspear. But in the case of "one verse answers to life" I also think it is the choice of that one verse that defines Waybrain.
Then there were the pat answers:
SIT is perfect prayer. It proves... well, you know...
A little broad there Mike, but definitely accurate.
That's the basic definition of anyone involved in any cult anywhere.
I would see SOME fellow grads acting this way all through the 70's and 80's and it gave me the creeps! I just couldn't see Jesus Christ acting that way at all. He embraced the lepers!
I think "Waybrain" really describes an ingrained behavior pattern.
It's that inner stubbornness that says "having done all, we must continue to STAND", never wavering or giving thoughtful consideration to opposing thoughts. It's relinquishing control to those in authority for no valid reason other than the fact they are in an authoritative position. It's retaining the naive belief that those in "leadership" have your best interests at heart. It's the reluctance to accept that The Way was really nothing more than a multi-level-marketing scheme that grew into a run-of-the mill, garden variety cult. It's that smug sense that comes from feeling that what we did in The Way was somehow superior to what others have done in countless other similar cults. After all, we were THE BEST! , dontcha know?
I would see SOME fellow grads acting this way all through the 70's and 80's and it gave me the creeps! I just couldn't see Jesus Christ acting that way at all. He embraced the lepers!
Yes. Jesus embraced the lepers. I don't see Docvic doing the same.
And he embodied all you just mentioned. Right??? :unsure:
A derogatory term used by former followers who have collected at the GC who are dissatisfied with their former choices, and need to label it as something negative so as to feel better.
It's that smug sense that comes from feeling that what we did in The Way was somehow superior to what others have done in countless other similar cults. After all, we were THE BEST! , dontcha know?
I'd even say that it's the smug sense that comes from feeling that what we did in the Way was somehow superior to what others have done - ever! We believed that we were the new saviors of the world and NO ONE was doing as much as we were.
I remember feeling like I didn't need to give to the poor - just witness. Homeless people? Witness to them! Charity? Bah! The poor will be with us always.
The problem was that I failed to see that I was among the poor.
Waybrain...when someone abandons their own common sense, logic and experience and replaces it with the mindless adherence to twi doctrine...when they pay more heed to a twi leader's opinion than their own.
Waybrain: A toxic takeover of one's mind and conscience wherein twi-doctrines supercede reason, reality and self responsibility. Continuing in this mindset, one ventures into total dependency and destruction of self.
Way-brain. A central nervous system encased in a PFAL book. Composed of neurons, supporting & nutritive structures [as glia] and a vast array of TWI doctrines, it integrates sensory information from inside and outside the body [not to be confused with the Body of Believers – although some former TWI personnel assert the group-think aspect of the Body of Believers is a vital part of the way-braining process].
Weigh brain. To ascertain the heaviness of one's thoughts. During the early years, it was a procedure only available through The Great Carnak and select Men of Gawd [usually only one MoG at a time during any given day and time and hour period - i.e. during their reign as the Grand Poobah] but with the proliferation of Psychic Hotlines, determining the atomic weight of a person's ideas is readily accessible through the agency of any licensed Know-it-all-tell-it-all-money-grubbing practitioner [call now, operators are standing by].
Whey brain. Watery part of milk found in the central nervous system enclosed in the skull that is separated from the coagulable part of curd esp. in the process of making cheese or cheering at a Green Bay Packers' game. Also referred to as "cheese head."
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The belief that there is such a thing a Truth with a capital T. And that it's possible for anyone to know it.
Saying "I know" when you should say "I believe"
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Saying, "I'm believing" when you should say, "I hope."
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Thinking that finding a parking spot right in front of Walmart proves that you and Gawd are tight.
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Some of these might be common to Christianity in general, or at least extremely dogmatic versions of Christianity (and other religions too for that matter. )
A grand sense of spiritual superiority (maybe political parties too)
One verse answers to life.
Immediate acquiescence to anyone in authority, regardless of the rightness or wrongness of their request.
A heightened sense of entitlement stemming from supposed higher knowledge of the Bible.
A willingness to argue that Granola really does taste better with apple juice instead of milk. (Now that one's just funny )
In my opinion, Waybrain is characterized by an unthinking reflex to do something, or say something only because it was learned in TWI, without having independently verified whether somethiong was indeed true.
An example of Waybrain in myself is that I consistantly arrive 10 - 15 minutes early for things, not because I think it's a good idea, (and it often isa good idea) but because I've had it drilled into me for several decades.
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excathedra
waybrain: dr. wierwille = man of god
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Tzaia
A sense of moral superiority for using raw sugar in coffee with non-dairy creamer.
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cheranne
abundent sharing? LOL
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mstar1
Why dont you all Renew Your Mind, this is off the word and you'll leave your trap door open if you continue..
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I think I got 1, 2, 4 and 6 in one sentence
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Tzaia
I'm going to go get my needs lined up with my wants, or is it my wants lined up with my needs? - I forget.
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I agree Oakspear. But in the case of "one verse answers to life" I also think it is the choice of that one verse that defines Waybrain.
Then there were the pat answers:
SIT is perfect prayer. It proves... well, you know...
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excathedra
doesn't matter as long as they're parallel
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dmiller
Fog. Both while in, and 20 years later.
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excathedra
ditto, d
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Mike
How about this?
Inability to mix with,
and/or relate to,
and/or respect,
and/or appreciate
anyone of a differing opinion or mindset.
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dmiller
Like I said --- fog.
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A little broad there Mike, but definitely accurate.
That's the basic definition of anyone involved in any cult anywhere.
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I would see SOME fellow grads acting this way all through the 70's and 80's and it gave me the creeps! I just couldn't see Jesus Christ acting that way at all. He embraced the lepers!
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I think "Waybrain" really describes an ingrained behavior pattern.
It's that inner stubbornness that says "having done all, we must continue to STAND", never wavering or giving thoughtful consideration to opposing thoughts. It's relinquishing control to those in authority for no valid reason other than the fact they are in an authoritative position. It's retaining the naive belief that those in "leadership" have your best interests at heart. It's the reluctance to accept that The Way was really nothing more than a multi-level-marketing scheme that grew into a run-of-the mill, garden variety cult. It's that smug sense that comes from feeling that what we did in The Way was somehow superior to what others have done in countless other similar cults. After all, we were THE BEST! , dontcha know?
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Yes. Jesus embraced the lepers. I don't see Docvic doing the same.
And he embodied all you just mentioned. Right??? :unsure:
Methinks so. How about you??
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A derogatory term used by former followers who have collected at the GC who are dissatisfied with their former choices, and need to label it as something negative so as to feel better.
( see Wierwille apologist for further info)
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I'd even say that it's the smug sense that comes from feeling that what we did in the Way was somehow superior to what others have done - ever! We believed that we were the new saviors of the world and NO ONE was doing as much as we were.
I remember feeling like I didn't need to give to the poor - just witness. Homeless people? Witness to them! Charity? Bah! The poor will be with us always.
The problem was that I failed to see that I was among the poor.
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Waybrain...when someone abandons their own common sense, logic and experience and replaces it with the mindless adherence to twi doctrine...when they pay more heed to a twi leader's opinion than their own.
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Waybrain: A toxic takeover of one's mind and conscience wherein twi-doctrines supercede reason, reality and self responsibility. Continuing in this mindset, one ventures into total dependency and destruction of self.
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Way-brain. A central nervous system encased in a PFAL book. Composed of neurons, supporting & nutritive structures [as glia] and a vast array of TWI doctrines, it integrates sensory information from inside and outside the body [not to be confused with the Body of Believers – although some former TWI personnel assert the group-think aspect of the Body of Believers is a vital part of the way-braining process].
Weigh brain. To ascertain the heaviness of one's thoughts. During the early years, it was a procedure only available through The Great Carnak and select Men of Gawd [usually only one MoG at a time during any given day and time and hour period - i.e. during their reign as the Grand Poobah] but with the proliferation of Psychic Hotlines, determining the atomic weight of a person's ideas is readily accessible through the agency of any licensed Know-it-all-tell-it-all-money-grubbing practitioner [call now, operators are standing by].
Whey brain. Watery part of milk found in the central nervous system enclosed in the skull that is separated from the coagulable part of curd esp. in the process of making cheese or cheering at a Green Bay Packers' game. Also referred to as "cheese head."
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