"Newspapermen learn to call a murderer 'an alleged murderer' and the king of England
'the alleged king of England' to avoid lawsuits."- Stephen Leacock.
Well , some 45 pages later someone got the point ,and with The Way attorneys on the rampage would it not be just the smart thing, if for no other reason than that booth over there with Belle's (allegedly of course) gum under the table to just speak accurately.
seems the legal wrangling simply tries to hold the WRONG people up to a "higher" standard.
what about herr mogster?
OK.. let's look at it.. maybe in a different light. Suppose you are "merely" a college professor, or a high school professor.. EVEN IN THE "SWINGING" SEVENTIES. not even the supposed manogawd to da world..
1. You OWN, or rather, have in your possession beastiality porn video (and God only knows what else)..
2. You EXHIBIT this material to your "students" in some kind of work study program.. at least one is UNDERAGE.
3. You're looking for tenure..
4. news of this gets out..
the question of the day. Do you get it? i.e., tenure?
"aww.. it's ok vicster. no problem.. sure you didn't mean anything "twisted" by it or anything.."
I say.. let's hold these bastards up to the "lower" standard.
They wouldn't stand a chance..
The few undisputed facts in evidence.. convict this kind of swill.. even before we get started..
Yes, Hamm......WHAT ABOUT WIERWILLE???
HE displayed and gloated over his beastiality porn video...........HUNDREDS OF US SAY IT.
HE showed his porn video in classroom settings a few times (4-6?) over the years......
HE called a young girl forward in a public meeting to show her HIS PORN PEN.........HUNDREDS SAW IT.
This was NOT speculation.....like WD responded to your post.....there were hundreds of corps who were eye-witnesses of wierwille's demented character and lusts.
In any other academic institution......besides an isolated cult in cornfield creek.......Wierwille would have been charged with CRIMES and listed as a sexual offender.
....Perhaps you have some deep legal "truth" here ... but I don't think so. If a jury's decisionwas that the tree is blue, the truth would still be that the tree is green. Trials can't make or change truth.
Good point, Rhino! And I'd like to add – the truth has a way of getting out. In Matthew 28: 11-14 some of the guards reported to the chief priests everything that happened at the tomb of Jesus. The chief priests and elders paid the soldiers to say the disciples stole the body of Jesus. Though this story was widely circulated among the Jews at the time, it did not stop the spread of the disciples' message – that He is risen!
The Matthew passage reminds me of TWI's oppressive mindset – how like the chief priests and elders – they control the flow of information – shaping it to their liking…changing it…suppressing it…
Shortly after Passing of a Patriarch came out, and the major players focused on their power struggles and damage control – TWI's ironfisted grip on followerswas weakened – cracks formed in the Lock Box. That's when stories of sexual immorality of top leadership began trickling out…Truth has a way of getting out.
TWI prided itself on being like the first century church. That's a laugh! When the word got out that sexual immorality was going on in the Corinthian church – Paul didn't cover it up or ignore it – he wrote a very sharp rebuke – found in I Corinthians 5. And thinking about the Ananias and Sapphira incident of lying about their donation and Peter exposing their lie by the Holy Spirit [Acts 5] gives me the impression the early church operated above board – and never tried to suppress the truth.
Well , some 45 pages later someone got the point ,and with The Way attorneys on the rampage would it not be just the smart thing, if for no other reason than that booth over there with Belle's (allegedly of course) gum under the table to just speak accurately.
TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WD...
IF you're the person something happened to, and you're relating the story... there's no need to say "alleged" because it happened to you.
And if you think TWI is looking for lawsuits that would expose their darker side in any way... I've got a bridge that's for sale...
IF you're the person something happened to, and you're relating the story... there's no need to say "alleged" because it happened to you.
Except that many times the most vocal here were not the person something happened to - they have liked a story and accepted it as true, their privilege. But then the next step is they post it as truth or fact. That is the difference, your right, it is two different things one is opinion one is opinion posted as truth.
And if you think TWI is looking for lawsuits that would expose their darker side in any way... I've got a bridge that's for sale...
Maybe so but I wouldn't rule it out, I have long ago given up trying to make sense of anything they do these days.[/quote]
Hmm. Nice exchange.. the $17.22 in the bank because I lived a lifestyle advocated by "them".. for the just "criminal" injustice of it all.. telling my little VERIFIABLE "stowries"..
Sounds like someone is trying to scare us into silence now :)
Some might say that ,then again some might say someone was trying to enlighten us.. Either way I think we can agree that they would not be interested in Mr. Squirrels stash of acorns they have bigger goals I'm sure. Wasn't there a site called Waydale? It seems it was effectively eliminated.
I wonder if rosie ever ever in her life.. depended on the next paycheck to be able to pay rent.. or buy groceries.. or pay for the heat..
try it when you're fifty one years old.. doing doctors and medicine on a pretty strict budget.. the other half of the time practicing "do it yourself" health care..
Again, don't think I'm feeling sorry for myself. It's just "reality".. others aren't anywhere near as well off as I am..
but I don't think the "vey royalty" have a clue.. maybe that's what I find "offensive"..
the only REAL difference.. when they expire, they'll have a whole heck of a lot more vultures trying to divide the spoils..
Wasn't there a site called Waydale? It seems it was effectively eliminated.
No, it was BOUGHT. It was called a "settlement".
I don't fault the A**ens for accepting the undisclosed settlement.. everybody has a price..
they wanted to get on with their lives as well as the rest of us..
Except that many times the most vocal here were not the person something happened to - they have liked a story and accepted it as true, their privilege. But then the next step is they post it as truth or fact. That is the difference, your right, it is two different things one is opinion one is opinion posted as truth.
WD, can you point out a specific example where Rascal or whoever posted something as factual, where it wasn't clear she was expressing her opinion of other's testimonies?
I'm not even sure if she said "that rapist lcm", if that would be defamation. As a very public figure, and assuming there is someone "testifying to that", it is clear it is an opinion. You even keep saying she is posting her opinion .. as truth. So you recognize it as opinion, as do all of us.
I just don't quite get that her statement somehow turns into more than her opinion just because she didn't use your magic word. It may be incumbent on a news agency to do a minimum level of fact checking, but even they get it wrong. In a discussion forum you hear what peope think. I have no expectation whatsoever that Rascal has done any sort of investigation to turn her opinion into some sort of substantiated fact.
Besides the freedom to state what she wants (clearly her opinion), to be guilty of defamation it would also have to be shown the testimonies here are false. How would that be done?
I think the point you try to make, that you said someone was finally understanding, was understood from page one. But you want to brow beat people into agreeing with you, when they don't. After the 100th time, I'd call it harassment more than your trying to educate us knaves.
is there more detail on the Waydale closing? As part of the settlement, Allens got more money if Waydale was closed? So there was no wrong doing by Waydale? As WD seemed to be implying? And the material reappeared here anyway ... so those opinions were not bought.
which probably REALLY chafes the "royalty" of der vey. That's all they got.. no more of P*ul A**en publicly displaying them at their worst.
I don't think they counted on a perhaps equally effective site to disseminate the news of the underbelly of twi..
ya know.. in the not so likely possibility that they bought this site, yet another with equally damning reports would rise from the "ashes"..
It would be so much EASIER for them to ask a few folks what it would take to make things right.. not that I'm holding my breath. No, we're the "other" people. Doing what's "right" is only reserved for the few, the "special"..
I think it boils down to Dove doesn`t like what our experiences say about an organization that he invested a tremendous amount into.
Either the organization lied or we do....It is much easier to brand us here at gs as liars than it is to come to grips with the criminal activity that occurred in twi and honestly re access ones understanding and beliefs.
As far as my opinion about vp and lcm, drugging and rape?? We have John Lynn admitting publicly that it happened, We have girls on more than one web site that have come forth and said that it happened to them. You have girls that have come forth and said that it was attempted upon them...You have girls who have come forward and told about refusing and being excommunicated from twi, their families and friends, and their reputations slaughtered.
It is a matter of court records that rosie and the bot DID know of the crimes committed by lcm
All of these first hand accounts and not a single one has been contacted by twi and charged with slander.
The people who DID bring charges against twi ... were settled with out of court.
It is my belief and opinion that these events are factual and occurred...does THAT communicate to your standard Dove?
Now grown adults who were then children, have come forward with personal accounts of being abused at the hands of twi leadership...parents have come forth with stories of abuse of their children at the hands of twi leadership .... people have come forth whom have witnessed the abuse of children at the hands of twi leadership....
Court documents more than one twi leader who has been imprisoned for child sexual abuse.
It is my belief and opinion that physical and sexual abuse of children occurred at the hands of twi leaders.
I myself was *counceled* to have an abortion as a requirement in order to remain in the center of God`s will, and remain alive, and unpossessed. Others have come forward and said *it happened to me too*!
It is a fact for me and my opinion that I was not the only one required to abort wanted children.
Here are some more first hand facts that have been brought forward here.
It is a fact that people were raped following twi leaders orders hitchhiking to lead.
It is a fact that people were grievously injured while involved in twi programs
It is a fact that at least one person unable to function after being grievously injured on lead was cast out of twi and died alone.
It is a fact that people died following twi teachings.
All of these events have been related by first person participants.
It is my belief and opinion that theses events occurred as related.
You have to admit, that no matter HOW it is worded....the above statements paint an ugly picture of an organization that would nurture and produce such evil.
ya know.. in the not so likely possibility that they bought this site, yet another with equally damning reports would rise from the "ashes"..
Well in order to keep us all quiet, why not turn Gunnison over to the 1000 or so here ... that would be a good remedy for the fraud perpetrated on us. We could do time shares. Shoot, if you figure our labors and ABS and fellow slaves we won over for them ... we bought the place at least twice anyway.
I can be bought, I'm tired of TWI talk anyway ... :) Is Gunnison anything more than a vacation spot now? Does it really serve a charitable function?
of course the next phoenix would rise up, as you said. They can have HQ.
I'm very sad that you feel worn out by this whole discussion. I understand completely and hope you get blessed and built up in whatever else you put your head into. GOD BLESS YOU!!!!! I AM SO VERY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.
Dear Rascal,
I'm amazed at your patience and persistence and I would never think less of you if you didn't want to continue, but I am very happy that you continue to share.
Dear Mr rhino, Hammeroni, Skypilot and others( not including whitedove and pond),
I enjoy your perspectives and it's clear that you have some information that I've never heard and I wil continue to listen and evaluate.
I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT AN ACTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TECHNICALLY CRIMINAL FOR THE LORD TO EVENTUALLY BURN THE WORKS. And it doesn't have to pass criminal legal requirements to be discussed here, or even civil legal requirements.
Dear whitedove,
within the last couple days I read that you councilled folks to watch out for TWI lawyers on the rampage. It blessed me to see you say something that could be considered well intended advice. It doesn't seem like folks here are too concerned. Speaking for myself, I think that if these lawyers you speak of tried too initiate legal action because of the words on this site they'd get there heads handed to them by any reasonable judge.
the reason it wears me out is i stink at debating and have a short attention span
and i have no real burning desire to debate or prove anything etc.
i know it's odd, due to my number of posts, but am part of greasespot for selfish reasons, for ME, not for ex-twi'ers or prospective ones
thanks
Nothing wrong with that Excathedra I don't think there is a section choice for smoking ,non smoking selfish, non selfish here. Me I'm just over in the corner with a cup of tea watchin the wheels go round and round.
WD, can you point out a specific example where Rascal or whoever posted something as factual, where it wasn't clear she was expressing her opinion of other's testimonies?
I'm not even sure if she said "that rapist lcm", if that would be defamation. As a very public figure, and assuming there is someone "testifying to that", it is clear it is an opinion. You even keep saying she is posting her opinion .. as truth. So you recognize it as opinion, as do all of us.
I just don't quite get that her statement somehow turns into more than her opinion just because she didn't use your magic word. It may be incumbent on a news agency to do a minimum level of fact checking, but even they get it wrong. In a discussion forum you hear what peope think. I have no expectation whatsoever that Rascal has done any sort of investigation to turn her opinion into some sort of substantiated fact.
Besides the freedom to state what she wants (clearly her opinion), to be guilty of defamation it would also have to be shown the testimonies here are false. How would that be done?
I think the point you try to make, that you said someone was finally understanding, was understood from page one. But you want to brow beat people into agreeing with you, when they don't. After the 100th time, I'd call it harassment more than your trying to educate us knaves.
is there more detail on the Waydale closing? As part of the settlement, Allens got more money if Waydale was closed? So there was no wrong doing by Waydale? As WD seemed to be implying? And the material reappeared here anyway ... so those opinions were not bought.
I would love to respond to your question and in time just might however not today I'm waiting on some official input before I can do so.
I think it boils down to Dove doesn`t like what our experiences say about an organization that he invested a tremendous amount into.
Either the organization lied or we do....It is much easier to brand us here at gs as liars than it is to come to grips with the criminal activity that occurred in twi and honestly re access ones understanding and beliefs.
Again I point out that I never said anyone was a liar I also never said the stories were either true or false. only that the stories were not verifiable and as such I don't accept that as adequate information to assionate someones character ,you may ,your choice I'll continue to point out it is an opinion not fact.
As far as my opinion about vp and lcm, drugging and rape?? We have John Lynn admitting publicly that it happened, We have girls on more than one web site that have come forth and said that it happened to them. You have girls that have come forth and said that it was attempted upon them...You have girls who have come forward and told about refusing and being excommunicated from twi, their families and friends, and their reputations slaughtered.
Cough.... excuse me but John is hardly the poster boy for truth certainly not my standard for truth and given the mess CES is in enough said. The rest falls into the first response
It is a matter of court records that rosie and the bot DID know of the crimes committed by lcm
All of these first hand accounts and not a single one has been contacted by twi and charged with slander.
The people who DID bring charges against twi ... were settled with out of court.
It is my belief and opinion that these events are factual and occurred...does THAT communicate to your standard Dove?
I agree never said that any of the above was not true.
Now grown adults who were then children, have come forward with personal accounts of being abused at the hands of twi leadership...parents have come forth with stories of abuse of their children at the hands of twi leadership .... people have come forth whom have witnessed the abuse of children at the hands of twi leadership....
Court documents more than one twi leader who has been imprisoned for child sexual abuse.
It is my belief and opinion that physical and sexual abuse of children occurred at the hands of twi leaders.
I myself was *counceled* to have an abortion as a requirement in order to remain in the center of God`s will, and remain alive, and unpossessed. Others have come forward and said *it happened to me too*!
It is a fact for me and my opinion that I was not the only one required to abort wanted children.
Here are some more first hand facts that have been brought forward here.
It is a fact that people were raped following twi leaders orders hitchhiking to lead.
It is a fact that people were grievously injured while involved in twi programs
It is a fact that at least one person unable to function after being grievously injured on lead was cast out of twi and died alone.
It is a fact that people died following twi teachings.
All of these events have been related by first person participants.
It is my belief and opinion that theses events occurred as related.
You have to admit, that no matter HOW it is worded....the above statements paint an ugly picture of an organization that would nurture and produce such evil.
Fine ,you are entitled to your opinion and you have noted it as such .
Nothing wrong with that Excathedra I don't think there is a section choice for smoking ,non smoking selfish, non selfish here. Me I'm just over in the corner with a cup of tea watchin the wheels go round and round.
hey thank you ! i be a smoker and am glad i haven't gotten kicked out yet
but WD.. like your answer to me.. "don't worry about me.."
see.. if it didn't REALLY happen to me.. In my little mind of minds, I honestly THINK it did..
see.. at the best.. they've produced an environment that convinces me that it indeed has.
The counsel I saw a young lady receive from one who was supposedly in "authority".. under direct auspices of the vicster himself... "just get laid and get over it".. along with a half a dozen other folks who could hear the same counselling session.. oh.. through two solid oak doors..
perhaps it was an elaborate ruse, produced simply so I would mistakenly remember it as some kind of reality..
who in their RIGHT mind would simply tell some LADY to simply schmooze in the "right" way with some scumbag anyway..
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see.. to use such a gift.. to cover "bad behavior".. even "disputed" criminal acts..
the only thing I can think is.. bad karma.
go ahead.. yeah, their blood will cover it all..
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'the alleged king of England' to avoid lawsuits."- Stephen Leacock.
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Well , some 45 pages later someone got the point ,and with The Way attorneys on the rampage would it not be just the smart thing, if for no other reason than that booth over there with Belle's (allegedly of course) gum under the table to just speak accurately.
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Yes, Hamm......WHAT ABOUT WIERWILLE???
HE displayed and gloated over his beastiality porn video...........HUNDREDS OF US SAY IT.
HE showed his porn video in classroom settings a few times (4-6?) over the years......
HE called a young girl forward in a public meeting to show her HIS PORN PEN.........HUNDREDS SAW IT.
This was NOT speculation.....like WD responded to your post.....there were hundreds of corps who were eye-witnesses of wierwille's demented character and lusts.
In any other academic institution......besides an isolated cult in cornfield creek.......Wierwille would have been charged with CRIMES and listed as a sexual offender.
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Good point, Rhino! And I'd like to add – the truth has a way of getting out. In Matthew 28: 11-14 some of the guards reported to the chief priests everything that happened at the tomb of Jesus. The chief priests and elders paid the soldiers to say the disciples stole the body of Jesus. Though this story was widely circulated among the Jews at the time, it did not stop the spread of the disciples' message – that He is risen!
The Matthew passage reminds me of TWI's oppressive mindset – how like the chief priests and elders – they control the flow of information – shaping it to their liking…changing it…suppressing it…
Shortly after Passing of a Patriarch came out, and the major players focused on their power struggles and damage control – TWI's ironfisted grip on followers was weakened – cracks formed in the Lock Box. That's when stories of sexual immorality of top leadership began trickling out…Truth has a way of getting out.
TWI prided itself on being like the first century church. That's a laugh! When the word got out that sexual immorality was going on in the Corinthian church – Paul didn't cover it up or ignore it – he wrote a very sharp rebuke – found in I Corinthians 5. And thinking about the Ananias and Sapphira incident of lying about their donation and Peter exposing their lie by the Holy Spirit [Acts 5] gives me the impression the early church operated above board – and never tried to suppress the truth.
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TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WD...
IF you're the person something happened to, and you're relating the story... there's no need to say "alleged" because it happened to you.
And if you think TWI is looking for lawsuits that would expose their darker side in any way... I've got a bridge that's for sale...
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Sounds like someone is trying to scare us into silence now :)
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Hmm. Nice exchange.. the $17.22 in the bank because I lived a lifestyle advocated by "them".. for the just "criminal" injustice of it all.. telling my little VERIFIABLE "stowries"..
I'd make it easy on them.. mail them the check..
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I don't think they have a CLUE..
some of us put our lives on "hold".. no personal advancement.. etc.. to be "available" to go to twig, run classes.. clean "leader's" houses..
today it's a paycheck to paycheck life.. I really am within six weeks of being homeless at any one given time.
I don't think they've done a very good job of identifying with the common "wayfer".
I wonder if rosie ever ever in her life.. depended on the next paycheck to be able to pay rent.. or buy groceries.. or pay for the heat..
No, I'm not feeling "sowy" for myself. Don't read this wrong.
But God forbid she would let her "friend" donna out in the street to fend for herself.. oh no. That's for the "other" people..
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Some might say that ,then again some might say someone was trying to enlighten us.. Either way I think we can agree that they would not be interested in Mr. Squirrels stash of acorns they have bigger goals I'm sure. Wasn't there a site called Waydale? It seems it was effectively eliminated.
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Again, don't think I'm feeling sorry for myself. It's just "reality".. others aren't anywhere near as well off as I am..
but I don't think the "vey royalty" have a clue.. maybe that's what I find "offensive"..
the only REAL difference.. when they expire, they'll have a whole heck of a lot more vultures trying to divide the spoils..
No, it was BOUGHT. It was called a "settlement".
I don't fault the A**ens for accepting the undisclosed settlement.. everybody has a price..
they wanted to get on with their lives as well as the rest of us..
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And since it is no longer I'd say it was effectively eliminated I did not say it was done for free only done.
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WD, can you point out a specific example where Rascal or whoever posted something as factual, where it wasn't clear she was expressing her opinion of other's testimonies?
I'm not even sure if she said "that rapist lcm", if that would be defamation. As a very public figure, and assuming there is someone "testifying to that", it is clear it is an opinion. You even keep saying she is posting her opinion .. as truth. So you recognize it as opinion, as do all of us.
I just don't quite get that her statement somehow turns into more than her opinion just because she didn't use your magic word. It may be incumbent on a news agency to do a minimum level of fact checking, but even they get it wrong. In a discussion forum you hear what peope think. I have no expectation whatsoever that Rascal has done any sort of investigation to turn her opinion into some sort of substantiated fact.
Besides the freedom to state what she wants (clearly her opinion), to be guilty of defamation it would also have to be shown the testimonies here are false. How would that be done?
I think the point you try to make, that you said someone was finally understanding, was understood from page one. But you want to brow beat people into agreeing with you, when they don't. After the 100th time, I'd call it harassment more than your trying to educate us knaves.
is there more detail on the Waydale closing? As part of the settlement, Allens got more money if Waydale was closed? So there was no wrong doing by Waydale? As WD seemed to be implying? And the material reappeared here anyway ... so those opinions were not bought.
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It's not like a trying to accuse some the "royals" in the middle ages..
I think peasants were on the short end of the stick in those days.
But really.. who do these jacka**es think they are? royalty? "gawd's best"?
as long as their little pile of cash and the economy holds out I guess..
I wonder who would adopt them..
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which probably REALLY chafes the "royalty" of der vey. That's all they got.. no more of P*ul A**en publicly displaying them at their worst.
I don't think they counted on a perhaps equally effective site to disseminate the news of the underbelly of twi..
ya know.. in the not so likely possibility that they bought this site, yet another with equally damning reports would rise from the "ashes"..
It would be so much EASIER for them to ask a few folks what it would take to make things right.. not that I'm holding my breath. No, we're the "other" people. Doing what's "right" is only reserved for the few, the "special"..
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I think it boils down to Dove doesn`t like what our experiences say about an organization that he invested a tremendous amount into.
Either the organization lied or we do....It is much easier to brand us here at gs as liars than it is to come to grips with the criminal activity that occurred in twi and honestly re access ones understanding and beliefs.
As far as my opinion about vp and lcm, drugging and rape?? We have John Lynn admitting publicly that it happened, We have girls on more than one web site that have come forth and said that it happened to them. You have girls that have come forth and said that it was attempted upon them...You have girls who have come forward and told about refusing and being excommunicated from twi, their families and friends, and their reputations slaughtered.
It is a matter of court records that rosie and the bot DID know of the crimes committed by lcm
All of these first hand accounts and not a single one has been contacted by twi and charged with slander.
The people who DID bring charges against twi ... were settled with out of court.
It is my belief and opinion that these events are factual and occurred...does THAT communicate to your standard Dove?
Now grown adults who were then children, have come forward with personal accounts of being abused at the hands of twi leadership...parents have come forth with stories of abuse of their children at the hands of twi leadership .... people have come forth whom have witnessed the abuse of children at the hands of twi leadership....
Court documents more than one twi leader who has been imprisoned for child sexual abuse.
It is my belief and opinion that physical and sexual abuse of children occurred at the hands of twi leaders.
I myself was *counceled* to have an abortion as a requirement in order to remain in the center of God`s will, and remain alive, and unpossessed. Others have come forward and said *it happened to me too*!
It is a fact for me and my opinion that I was not the only one required to abort wanted children.
Here are some more first hand facts that have been brought forward here.
It is a fact that people were raped following twi leaders orders hitchhiking to lead.
It is a fact that people were grievously injured while involved in twi programs
It is a fact that at least one person unable to function after being grievously injured on lead was cast out of twi and died alone.
It is a fact that people died following twi teachings.
All of these events have been related by first person participants.
It is my belief and opinion that theses events occurred as related.
You have to admit, that no matter HOW it is worded....the above statements paint an ugly picture of an organization that would nurture and produce such evil.
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Well in order to keep us all quiet, why not turn Gunnison over to the 1000 or so here ... that would be a good remedy for the fraud perpetrated on us. We could do time shares. Shoot, if you figure our labors and ABS and fellow slaves we won over for them ... we bought the place at least twice anyway.
I can be bought, I'm tired of TWI talk anyway ... :) Is Gunnison anything more than a vacation spot now? Does it really serve a charitable function?
of course the next phoenix would rise up, as you said. They can have HQ.
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Dear Excathedra,
I'm very sad that you feel worn out by this whole discussion. I understand completely and hope you get blessed and built up in whatever else you put your head into. GOD BLESS YOU!!!!! I AM SO VERY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.
Dear Rascal,
I'm amazed at your patience and persistence and I would never think less of you if you didn't want to continue, but I am very happy that you continue to share.
Dear Mr rhino, Hammeroni, Skypilot and others( not including whitedove and pond),
I enjoy your perspectives and it's clear that you have some information that I've never heard and I wil continue to listen and evaluate.
I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT AN ACTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TECHNICALLY CRIMINAL FOR THE LORD TO EVENTUALLY BURN THE WORKS. And it doesn't have to pass criminal legal requirements to be discussed here, or even civil legal requirements.
Dear whitedove,
within the last couple days I read that you councilled folks to watch out for TWI lawyers on the rampage. It blessed me to see you say something that could be considered well intended advice. It doesn't seem like folks here are too concerned. Speaking for myself, I think that if these lawyers you speak of tried too initiate legal action because of the words on this site they'd get there heads handed to them by any reasonable judge.
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excathedra
i know liar that i am ha
the reason it wears me out is i stink at debating and have a short attention span
and i have no real burning desire to debate or prove anything etc.
i know it's odd, due to my number of posts, but am part of greasespot for selfish reasons, for ME, not for ex-twi'ers or prospective ones
thanks
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WhiteDove
Nothing wrong with that Excathedra I don't think there is a section choice for smoking ,non smoking selfish, non selfish here. Me I'm just over in the corner with a cup of tea watchin the wheels go round and round.
I would love to respond to your question and in time just might however not today I'm waiting on some official input before I can do so.
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WhiteDove
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excathedra
hey thank you ! i be a smoker and am glad i haven't gotten kicked out yet
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Ham
but WD.. like your answer to me.. "don't worry about me.."
see.. if it didn't REALLY happen to me.. In my little mind of minds, I honestly THINK it did..
see.. at the best.. they've produced an environment that convinces me that it indeed has.
The counsel I saw a young lady receive from one who was supposedly in "authority".. under direct auspices of the vicster himself... "just get laid and get over it".. along with a half a dozen other folks who could hear the same counselling session.. oh.. through two solid oak doors..
perhaps it was an elaborate ruse, produced simply so I would mistakenly remember it as some kind of reality..
who in their RIGHT mind would simply tell some LADY to simply schmooze in the "right" way with some scumbag anyway..
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