My mama told me to always watch my drinks so no one could drop anything into them. This was echoed to me as a teen by my older brother, who once helped a girl on a bad trip--someone dosed her drink. Good thing it was my brother( who, btw is mentally ill but still has a moral core of not harming others) who saw she needed care, not predation.
If there really was a drug that actully made women crazed for sex, menopausal women would be buying it in droves, just like Viagra sales for men. Get real. It would saturate the news media.
But I guess it is okay for a Chrisitan minister to commit adultery if the girl is hot for it.???
I have a husband and sons, I have male friends...I have yet to see ANY of them behave in the way you described....I have teenaged daughters that our male friends and neighbors don`t lear at and persue in that way.....in short I don`t know anybody who believes that this what you said is the case or views this as acceptable behavior....
In all honesty, I ask....Are you very sure that this ideology isn`t left over propaganda from twi days that was promoted by a dirty old man who wanted people to BELIEVE that this was normal or acceptable behavior?
Can't you discuss the issue without resorting to personal attacks and character assassinations?
This discussion is about YOUR character assassination of "all men".
...and get this, if any men disagree with oldies concerning their own sexual proclivities, they must be lying or gay...that means that oldies knows what's going on inside your head better than you do...
You are one sick puppy.
...oldies...how do you define "young women"? 21?...18?...14?...12? They have words for people like that...and "normal" is not one of them.
My mama told me to always watch my drinks so no one could drop anything into them. This was echoed to me as a teen by my older brother, who once helped a girl on a bad trip--someone dosed her drink. Good thing it was my brother( who, btw is mentally ill but still has a moral core of not harming others) who saw she needed care, not predation.
If there really was a drug that actully made women crazed for sex, menopausal women would be buying it in droves, just like Viagra sales for men. Get real. It would saturate the news media.
But I guess it is okay for a Chrisitan minister to commit adultery if the girl is hot for it.???
They say Viagra works for some women too. But no, its not ok for a Christian minister to commit adultery, even if he did that as a gesture to loosen someone up sexually.
Where do you get this??
I have a husband and sons, I have male friends...I have yet to see ANY of them behave in the way you described..
I am not talking about behavior, I am talking about fantasy and the male sexual desire.
Maybe your husband and sons never told you their innermost thoughts and desires, did that ever cross you mind?
This discussion is about YOUR character assassination of "all men".
...and get this, if any men disagree with oldies concerning their own sexual proclivities, they must be lying or gay...that means that oldies knows what's going on inside your head better than you do...
You are one sick puppy.
Don't call him a puppy. That an insult to puppies...
See... now I'm wondering if Oldies even believes what he posts or just tries to play devil's advocate. Oh wait! He doesn't have to try...
What's the payoff for you Oldies?
So Oldies - tell me, what is the payoff for this behaviour?
Why would a single young Christian woman need to be loosened up sexually? Was she supposed to be having lots of sex? Wouldn't that be more of an issue if she was a married woman--and wouldn't the 'loosener' be her husband, not their minister? And how would drugging her w/ out her consent play into this?
It's okay to drug a woman if she doesn't want to have sex with you? If the drugs make her want sex with you, then its all moral and good for her?
Sounds like young women are objects to be used, not real people. And their feeling are just annoying women's feelings, not of spiritual importance like pleasing the man o gawd is important.
This discussion is about YOUR character assassination of "all men".
...and get this, if any men disagree with oldies concerning their own sexual proclivities, they must be lying or gay...that means that oldies knows what's going on inside your head better than you do...
You are one sick puppy.
...oldies...how do you define "young women"? 21?...18?...14?...12? They have words for people like that...and "normal" is not one of them.
I define young women as adult women , as in twi when they had sex with Wierwille. Am not talking about kids.
This may be just too controversial for some folks, so striking back is their only option, it would seem.
OK, I guess I'll just have to abandon this thread if this topic can't be discussed without personal attacks.
I know the physical reactions I saw on their faces when I asked them this question oldies. I know that they looked revolted. I can only go by what they tell me.
I repeat, could this be an assumption on your part based on affiliation with an unhealthy group?
How young IS young in the fantasies oldies? 19 18 16?
Wierwille didn`t mind as young as 17 yr old virgins....according to catcup`s account.
It wasn`t healthy oldies, it was harmfull to the girls that he raped/seduced
Being the mother of teenagers of both sexes, I think I kind of have a feel for what is the norm.
They say Viagra works for some women too. But no, its not ok for a Christian minister to commit adultery, even if he did that as a gesture to loosen someone up sexually.
First, I've never read a thing that says that Viagra knocks you unconscious. You don't like to deal with that.
NO it's not OKAY! What moral gymastics class did you attend? You're just coming up with another way of saying that all these women were asking for it and wanted it.
I am not talking about behavior, I am talking about fantasy and the male sexual desire.
The sirens are sounding loud and clear...
Maybe your husband and sons never told you their innermost thoughts and desires, did that ever cross you mind?
So now you're going to project all your innermost thoughts and desires on men you don't even know?
And even in your perverse inner world, you seem to think that not only do all men fantasize about young women but that all young women are power seeking sexpots that fantasize about older men.
Oldies, you cannot spout something THAT revolting and not have reactions. Are you suprised? Did you really expect that anybody would agree with you on this?
It is an affront to all of the decent men that I known and met in my life time.
The way you said it...either everyone is like you or they are gay. That would place my husband, my boys, our male friends, in the *gay* catagory....it just isn`t true.
Dude about right now I Would start getting a lot of fear in my life.
Someone is sex crimes in NYC will read this and guess what you
will be on there list.
Dude you might want to start deleting a lot of stuff
and get rid of your pc at your house.
If you need bail money good luck.
Don't forget to call a good Dr. claim you was involed in
a cult and brain washed.
And a very good lawyer.
Very good Lawyer.
I doubt twi will be kicking in any money good luck.
Some one you age might have a heart attack over this u might want to call EMS
also.
Dude u need some help I will pray for u.
You might want to get a leave from you job for a few weeks maybe the dust will go by.
You will not hear a knock on the door they usually just bust it down.
maybe a big couch in front of it will help.
Don't you know this will go straight to them.
SEX CRIMES will be the unit to come visit if u did something
or not.
You're a sick, sick man Danny. I'm absolutely flabbergasted at the accusations and innuendo that some of you are making about Oldies character. To even hint at him being a sexual pervert/pedophile not only crosses the line but is indicative of an unsound mind. IMO those doing this should join me in the land of pre-screening of posts. That Paw would allow this sort of crap to continue is pathetically bias.
Maybe your husband and sons never told you their innermost thoughts and desires, did that ever cross you mind?
That is such an idiotic statement. I could imagine maybe her boys not feeling comfortable telling her what they thought - but her husband? She has sex with the man for crying out loud! I'm sure he's told her plenty.
I know my husband has told me some pretty shocking things he'd like to do. Which I don't mind - I'm as big of a pervert as he is anyday of the week. <3 But I can guarentee you that none of his fantasies have involved giving me or anyone else date rape or wanting to rape 17 year olds or anyone for that matter.
And if he doesn't tell me what he wants - he shows me.
If he had an desire at all to do horrible things to me or trample all over our marriage by being unfaithful then I'm sure he would have done it by now.
But he won't.
Because his brain isn't wired like a woman-abusing freak.
Anyway - back to your "lying or gay" statement. I guess the guys who go for the older women are gay? I'll have to call up my husband and give him the terrrible news.
I am not talking about behavior, I am talking about fantasy and the male sexual desire.
Maybe your husband and sons never told you their innermost thoughts and desires, did that ever cross you mind?
Since you consider yourself one to ''do the Word'', maybe you should start "doing'' some of it................
hummmm...........
what is a "Christian Male'' supposed to do with evil, perverse, unhealthy, sinful, commandment breaking thoughts?
Philippians 4:8
King James Version
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
hummm, let see what else it says about the innermost thoughts...............
Matthew 5:28
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart
And yes, it is breaking a COMMANDMENT!
I apply it for the here and now, since I am not a dispy.
But, like it or not, according to Jesus, it is wrong.
Oldies, and whoever else agrees to his illogic, you need lots of prayer, and repentence. I will offer my prayers.
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Danny
Dude you might want to see a Real Dr.
I would think this is mental.
Don't know if you haven't commited a crime.
But WOW
Girls and boys look out for who is on your block.
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That's a very dangerous statement. Scary even.
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Saturday night I worked the LSU Football game in the
student section.
Yes they had lots of young women that was cute.
Many drunk ones.
My oldest girl is 36
What did I do for some I got medical attention.
Did I ever think about sex. No
hell no.
Man dude something is wrong with you or I'm gay
or something.
And something is wrong with any man vp included
that does other wise.
Even though he was the king.
Ladies do you want to sit next to him with your Coke can open?
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A real Dr. would tell me I'm a normal man.
Can't you discuss the issue without resorting to personal attacks and character assassinations?
Danny, so you do not fantasize about young women, ever?
Be honest now -- its nothing to be ashamed of. Its part of who we are as American males.
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My mama told me to always watch my drinks so no one could drop anything into them. This was echoed to me as a teen by my older brother, who once helped a girl on a bad trip--someone dosed her drink. Good thing it was my brother( who, btw is mentally ill but still has a moral core of not harming others) who saw she needed care, not predation.
If there really was a drug that actully made women crazed for sex, menopausal women would be buying it in droves, just like Viagra sales for men. Get real. It would saturate the news media.
But I guess it is okay for a Chrisitan minister to commit adultery if the girl is hot for it.???
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Danny
Dude take this quote a Dr. and
he will lock you up.
Personal attack No you just don't get it
It's your words.
Let me ask do you think about Animals to when you see there rear?
Dude man you got something wrong with you.
Maybe you should refrain from writing stupid stuff if you don't want it out there.
hey take a survey.
hands down 99% will say you are sick.
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Where do you get this??
I have a husband and sons, I have male friends...I have yet to see ANY of them behave in the way you described....I have teenaged daughters that our male friends and neighbors don`t lear at and persue in that way.....in short I don`t know anybody who believes that this what you said is the case or views this as acceptable behavior....
In all honesty, I ask....Are you very sure that this ideology isn`t left over propaganda from twi days that was promoted by a dirty old man who wanted people to BELIEVE that this was normal or acceptable behavior?
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This discussion is about YOUR character assassination of "all men".
...and get this, if any men disagree with oldies concerning their own sexual proclivities, they must be lying or gay...that means that oldies knows what's going on inside your head better than you do...
You are one sick puppy.
...oldies...how do you define "young women"? 21?...18?...14?...12? They have words for people like that...and "normal" is not one of them.
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They say Viagra works for some women too. But no, its not ok for a Christian minister to commit adultery, even if he did that as a gesture to loosen someone up sexually.
I am not talking about behavior, I am talking about fantasy and the male sexual desire.
Maybe your husband and sons never told you their innermost thoughts and desires, did that ever cross you mind?
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Don't call him a puppy. That an insult to puppies...
So Oldies - tell me, what is the payoff for this behaviour?
Or are you an expert on lying and being gay?
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Why would a single young Christian woman need to be loosened up sexually? Was she supposed to be having lots of sex? Wouldn't that be more of an issue if she was a married woman--and wouldn't the 'loosener' be her husband, not their minister? And how would drugging her w/ out her consent play into this?
It's okay to drug a woman if she doesn't want to have sex with you? If the drugs make her want sex with you, then its all moral and good for her?
Sounds like young women are objects to be used, not real people. And their feeling are just annoying women's feelings, not of spiritual importance like pleasing the man o gawd is important.
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I define young women as adult women , as in twi when they had sex with Wierwille. Am not talking about kids.
This may be just too controversial for some folks, so striking back is their only option, it would seem.
OK, I guess I'll just have to abandon this thread if this topic can't be discussed without personal attacks.
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Viagra is prescribed by doctors, not dropped in drinks by your minister.
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I know the physical reactions I saw on their faces when I asked them this question oldies. I know that they looked revolted. I can only go by what they tell me.
I repeat, could this be an assumption on your part based on affiliation with an unhealthy group?
How young IS young in the fantasies oldies? 19 18 16?
Wierwille didn`t mind as young as 17 yr old virgins....according to catcup`s account.
It wasn`t healthy oldies, it was harmfull to the girls that he raped/seduced
Being the mother of teenagers of both sexes, I think I kind of have a feel for what is the norm.
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First, I've never read a thing that says that Viagra knocks you unconscious. You don't like to deal with that.
NO it's not OKAY! What moral gymastics class did you attend? You're just coming up with another way of saying that all these women were asking for it and wanted it.
The sirens are sounding loud and clear...So now you're going to project all your innermost thoughts and desires on men you don't even know?
And even in your perverse inner world, you seem to think that not only do all men fantasize about young women but that all young women are power seeking sexpots that fantasize about older men.
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Oldies, you cannot spout something THAT revolting and not have reactions. Are you suprised? Did you really expect that anybody would agree with you on this?
It is an affront to all of the decent men that I known and met in my life time.
The way you said it...either everyone is like you or they are gay. That would place my husband, my boys, our male friends, in the *gay* catagory....it just isn`t true.
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Danny
Dude about right now I Would start getting a lot of fear in my life.
Someone is sex crimes in NYC will read this and guess what you
will be on there list.
Dude you might want to start deleting a lot of stuff
and get rid of your pc at your house.
If you need bail money good luck.
Don't forget to call a good Dr. claim you was involed in
a cult and brain washed.
And a very good lawyer.
Very good Lawyer.
I doubt twi will be kicking in any money good luck.
Some one you age might have a heart attack over this u might want to call EMS
also.
Dude u need some help I will pray for u.
You might want to get a leave from you job for a few weeks maybe the dust will go by.
You will not hear a knock on the door they usually just bust it down.
maybe a big couch in front of it will help.
Don't you know this will go straight to them.
SEX CRIMES will be the unit to come visit if u did something
or not.
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You're a sick, sick man Danny. I'm absolutely flabbergasted at the accusations and innuendo that some of you are making about Oldies character. To even hint at him being a sexual pervert/pedophile not only crosses the line but is indicative of an unsound mind. IMO those doing this should join me in the land of pre-screening of posts. That Paw would allow this sort of crap to continue is pathetically bias.
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That is such an idiotic statement. I could imagine maybe her boys not feeling comfortable telling her what they thought - but her husband? She has sex with the man for crying out loud! I'm sure he's told her plenty.
I know my husband has told me some pretty shocking things he'd like to do. Which I don't mind - I'm as big of a pervert as he is anyday of the week. <3 But I can guarentee you that none of his fantasies have involved giving me or anyone else date rape or wanting to rape 17 year olds or anyone for that matter.
And if he doesn't tell me what he wants - he shows me.
If he had an desire at all to do horrible things to me or trample all over our marriage by being unfaithful then I'm sure he would have done it by now.
But he won't.
Because his brain isn't wired like a woman-abusing freak.
Anyway - back to your "lying or gay" statement. I guess the guys who go for the older women are gay?
I'll have to call up my husband and give him the terrrible news.
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i could not read the original post!!???
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OLDIES
See my post on the other thread I stand behind it.
You are sick.
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Since you consider yourself one to ''do the Word'', maybe you should start "doing'' some of it................
hummmm...........
what is a "Christian Male'' supposed to do with evil, perverse, unhealthy, sinful, commandment breaking thoughts?
Philippians 4:8
King James Version
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
hummm, let see what else it says about the innermost thoughts...............
Matthew 5:28
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart
And yes, it is breaking a COMMANDMENT!
I apply it for the here and now, since I am not a dispy.
But, like it or not, according to Jesus, it is wrong.
Oldies, and whoever else agrees to his illogic, you need lots of prayer, and repentence. I will offer my prayers.
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