I think it being a holiday that canceling it would be a good idea.
I also want to be honest in public and say that some folks might be hesitant to be interviewed if they believe differently than some logged in and for that reason I am considering my future participation there which saddens me deeply because I believe you have a great heart and are doing this for us in the first place.
CK - Why wouldn't you want to participate even tho people may have different POVs?
We most certainly (speaking for all posters here at GSC) agree on all points but yet we (sorta) get along well in the process. The diversity is refreshing and I enjoy a good debate/discussion - I can always learn something new from someone or I'm glad to share something new with someone else...
I think both the forums and the radio are good avenues for connecting with people and hope you reconsider your future participation. I have enjoyed you on both levels :-)
Rudeness because you don't agree with someone is not my cup of tea. I can disagree here and do in 'tacks all the time but I actually try not to be rude about it. And when I have been I was called on it in a flash and have genuinely apologized.
And Chas you are not a rude person here or there so I wasn't meaning you, I meant to say that in my first post back to you.
With my no longer holding back about how I feel around here (sometimes) that in itself might be what was needed to make me know I have the balls to speak my mind and if not accepted or understood I also have the balls to express that also. So it might have taken care of itself just by my deciding I will no longer hold back what I feel here.
But you are one that has been there for me in private as a friend and I consider every word that comes from your mouth and never want to hurt you in error. ;)
It can also be misunderstood as blunt or to the point.
From what I've seen and heard, there is much more time to consider the words then suspected.
One need not back away from a person who is seemingly rude.
It's not a sign of weakness to let anyone say what they want and another not respond, knowing or having a different, and sometimes very different pov.
Rudeness would be personal insults and the like, which would not ever be allowed at talkshoe imo.
It's different then the forums. I have stated my opinion on some beliefs and that opinion has changed over the years. Yet the words are recorded in these pages. Whether or not anyone thinks I'm the same or changed is of little matter. THAT they can think I can change or stay the same is more important.
No one wants their words to be used against them in any way. That's not a discussion but an attack simulation.
Personally I would wish that more would consider each others words and thoughts without battles over semantics.
But rather to get to the heart of the matter and move on.
Not many want to be naked and unashamed, and it's not a requirement on these forums or talkshoe, but it does make things flow better and respect is built again, where it has been torn down so badly from others and our own selves.
I am touched deeply by the number of people that have contacted me in private (and you here in public Chas) that have expressed their heartfelt desire for me not to leave talkshoe.
I rather like the idea of a round table discussion. Certainly without venturing into anything really contraversial, like Kathy said, at least until we become more comfortable with each other in that medium. Perhaps a simple discussion to begin with and gradually move into more complex topics.
I think an open discussion would be fun.... kinda like the chat room only with real live voices.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. Vixen got into a tussle with a very angry wild mama boar and we've just returned from the pet ER. I'll be camping by her on the floor all day and night praying for no serious internal injuries and keeping the gash on her belly clean.
Todd - perhaps you can find a way to tell Paw what you and I kicked around in chat.....I'm think it was a good idea....
yeah...i think that is a good idea, too.
imo, there is truly smorgasboard of ideas worth exploring together
but id like to find ways to explore them, where the details of our explorations are somehow being documented for further review and reflection and development and use
i suspect there are a number of folks around here who will pick up on things quite quickly
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Dunno if I can make it, as it's Fathers' Day and all... we have plans...
BUT...
What about an open mic night? Just a live chat and see where it goes....
Maybe we could list some topics we'd like to discuss and put them on the table...
What say you?
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Paw,
I think it being a holiday that canceling it would be a good idea.
I also want to be honest in public and say that some folks might be hesitant to be interviewed if they believe differently than some logged in and for that reason I am considering my future participation there which saddens me deeply because I believe you have a great heart and are doing this for us in the first place.
My respect,
Kathy
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CK - Why wouldn't you want to participate even tho people may have different POVs?
We most certainly (speaking for all posters here at GSC) agree on all points but yet we (sorta) get along well in the process. The diversity is refreshing and I enjoy a good debate/discussion - I can always learn something new from someone or I'm glad to share something new with someone else...
I think both the forums and the radio are good avenues for connecting with people and hope you reconsider your future participation. I have enjoyed you on both levels :-)
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Rudeness because you don't agree with someone is not my cup of tea. I can disagree here and do in 'tacks all the time but I actually try not to be rude about it. And when I have been I was called on it in a flash and have genuinely apologized.
And Chas you are not a rude person here or there so I wasn't meaning you, I meant to say that in my first post back to you.
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Hunnie - I didn't take it that way at all. No need for an apology.
I was just posting my POV about your participation, as I've seen so far and hope you can make it, when you can...
I wish I could make it more often but as you know, with little kids, there's seldom time for yourself. (Nap time rocks!)
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With my no longer holding back about how I feel around here (sometimes) that in itself might be what was needed to make me know I have the balls to speak my mind and if not accepted or understood I also have the balls to express that also. So it might have taken care of itself just by my deciding I will no longer hold back what I feel here.
But you are one that has been there for me in private as a friend and I consider every word that comes from your mouth and never want to hurt you in error. ;)
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Rudeness is a defensive reaction I think.
It can also be misunderstood as blunt or to the point.
From what I've seen and heard, there is much more time to consider the words then suspected.
One need not back away from a person who is seemingly rude.
It's not a sign of weakness to let anyone say what they want and another not respond, knowing or having a different, and sometimes very different pov.
Rudeness would be personal insults and the like, which would not ever be allowed at talkshoe imo.
It's different then the forums. I have stated my opinion on some beliefs and that opinion has changed over the years. Yet the words are recorded in these pages. Whether or not anyone thinks I'm the same or changed is of little matter. THAT they can think I can change or stay the same is more important.
No one wants their words to be used against them in any way. That's not a discussion but an attack simulation.
Personally I would wish that more would consider each others words and thoughts without battles over semantics.
But rather to get to the heart of the matter and move on.
Not many want to be naked and unashamed, and it's not a requirement on these forums or talkshoe, but it does make things flow better and respect is built again, where it has been torn down so badly from others and our own selves.
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Excellent points, cman!
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I am touched deeply by the number of people that have contacted me in private (and you here in public Chas) that have expressed their heartfelt desire for me not to leave talkshoe.
Thank you. :wub:
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oh my... a tad rant
i must say that i often weep for my inability to describe in writing what i could easily demonstrate via spoken words
...some things simply can only be conveyed and demonstrated live means, which is why i am so drawn to gsc radio
and so...to whom it may concern at the GSC...
i invite you all to consider the value of a talk shoe session or series (or more)
focused on mainly just this kind of thing...asking courageous questions such as ..."how might we find better ways to use gsc radio for ___"
cuz i have A LOT of very practical things to share that i have also experienced and can explain quite well
and cuz i most passionately want to convey my perspectives and experiences of the higher arts of friendship as i have come to know them since twi
especially as it pertains to cyber culture and community...which this is to a very large degree
i am no certified specialist in anything...mostly just an artist and pupil of life
and i offer to be as transparent and open to questions as i possibly can about how i have come to know what i am saying and doing
but i have come to a point in life where i believe we must reclaim our own imaginations and experiences from dogma and put them to use
but in ways that fully honor how we got to where we are
i would like to invite a wide array of simple and fun tools and skills that have some deep old roots in the world
in a romper room brainstorm style cyber session where we are also free to make up as we go along
mainly because i feel i belong to the GSC in ways that i belong no where else in the world
and i do deeply cherish that
i dont care what it comes to looks like in the end
but i know how to ignite a spark that gets us dreaming of better things for each other
for what its worth..
this is me, being +ODD
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And maybe we could stay away from explosive topics so we could all enjoy ourselves. :)
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markomalley
Or, perhaps, we could simply accept that GSC is not a cult and that people are entitled to a diversity of beliefs...
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ChattyKathy
Works for me. :)
ps...
I even have a grasp on my attitude towards Muslims these days which I'm very thankful to be able to say.
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we could...or ... and...but...too ...
i am sure we could also find ways that such a true statement rings even more true
as an "offering to a quest," of sorts
...more of a round table type of approach
such as openly asking "how could we all simply accept that GSc is not a cult and that people are entitled to a diversity of beliefs?"
and then freewill offering answers from our perspectives
asking things such as ...what kinds of questions might we find to ask together?
and how might we proceed together?
then paying ever closer attention to what happens next
perhaps playing at ways of purposeful pausing
and being open to further inquiry and innovation
among other things
...i think at least starting with these kinds of footing can make a world of difference
there i go trying to write about it again
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Todd,
That's my point. We can all learn.
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I rather like the idea of a round table discussion. Certainly without venturing into anything really contraversial, like Kathy said, at least until we become more comfortable with each other in that medium. Perhaps a simple discussion to begin with and gradually move into more complex topics.
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I will be there! It is such a chance to see everyones hearts and idea in such a personal and meaningful way!
The experience is difficult to describe as you said Todd!
Paw, It is not cancelled is it??????
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I think an open discussion would be fun.... kinda like the chat room only with real live voices.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. Vixen got into a tussle with a very angry wild mama boar and we've just returned from the pet ER. I'll be camping by her on the floor all day and night praying for no serious internal injuries and keeping the gash on her belly clean.
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The poor little thing. :(
I would prefer it be canceled but for selfish reasons and that is because I want to treat hubby to a nice meal out for his day.
But I have chosen to remain a part of it and again thank you awesome folks for letting me know how you feel about me. :wub:
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Aaah (((((Belle))))))))),
We will sure be praying for You and (((((((((Vixsen))))))))) and your family!
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a quick addition...to clarify
i cant really play along today, beyond adding small hypertextual nuggets here and there
(my father and mother are in town and coming over for lunch...and other stuff)
and i may not be able to play along next weekend either
(i may be out of town big family reunion around my uncle's recent passing..not sure if i will make it back in time)
but most weekends after that are open
and too...as i am more interested in passing tips and tricks along to the community to adopt and customize
i am game to meet with whomever on other days to do so
and i can imagine a few different ways to do this kinda thing, as well
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Todd - perhaps you can find a way to tell Paw what you and I kicked around in chat.....I'm think it was a good idea....
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Belle, my prayers are with you.
Dooj, its not nice to tease you know....tell... :D
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yeah...i think that is a good idea, too.
imo, there is truly smorgasboard of ideas worth exploring together
but id like to find ways to explore them, where the details of our explorations are somehow being documented for further review and reflection and development and use
i suspect there are a number of folks around here who will pick up on things quite quickly
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