Rick Ross's Website

[Lifted Up]

Ah, yes. Rick Ross. Bill collector and convicted felon (diamond heist) turned self-proclaimed "cult expert." He was consulted as such by the FBI during the Waco standoff. We all saw how well that worked out.

Belle: The following statement isn't directed toward you or to anyone who's posted in this thread, but I have to say that when I see anyone giving any credibility to people like this mercenary bottom feeder, it concerns me that their gullibility level is still way too high to be healthy.

Do a search of Rick Ross and deprogramming. You can skip all the obviously biased sites, like Scientology's and just check out the ones that simply state the facts. Rick Ross, and people like him, give me the major creeps.

It occurs to me that the pagans and wiccans among us could very easily attract the attention of someone of Rick Ross's ilk, if their parents aren't happy with their religious path. Or a Jewish family might give the so-called "exit counsellors" a call if their adult child decides to enter a monastery.

More dangerous, IMO, than groups like twi are groups that kidnap people and do their best to force them to relinquish their religious beliefs, no matter how distasteful those beliefs may be to the kidnap victim's family and/or friends.

I make no apologies for bringing this thread back...dunno how I missed Linda's post. I guess I would say that her last paragraph is on the button. The reason that these groups are dangerous is because they go to such extremes. I was told that the extreme measures were needed because neither I nor anyone else could ever leave TWI on his/her own; we were so controlled. Many thousands have since disproven that idea. I have said my peace; so this thread may now sink back through the pages.

[Tom Strange]

Thanks for bringing it back up L.U. I missed it the first time around (electricity must've been out or sump'n)...

I don't see anything new there... Dr. Wierwille said decades ago that we were labelled a cult because we didn't believe in the trinity.

And a fine diversion it was that he gave us!

WE WERE LABELED A CULT BECAUSE WE WERE A CULT.

TWI was a cult for any number of reasons: structure, behavioral modification techniques, etc...

Telling us it was 'because of the trinity' thing was just one way of veepee trying to head 'the cult thing' off at the pass...

Veepee knew TWI be labeled a cult because veepee knew that TWI was a cult... heck, he built it.

[TOMMYZ]

We should send Ross down to Gitmo to work with the POW's there. That would be interesting.

[Lifted Up]

I don't see anything new there... Dr. Wierwille said decades ago that we were labelled a cult because we didn't believe in the trinity.

Go on with additional reasons if you wish, Tom. But, the JCING reason was the pretty immediate trigger for my deprogramming, which involved at first a particular Lutheran Church helping my family contact the deprogrammers. The year before, everything had seemed fine, there wasnt even any hit of suspicion at me leaving my work and going into the corps.

I might add that JCING was the trigger, but Jonestown also was an important factor.