the mountains are our imaginations bad in our lives
2 Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
so many people look for the bible for fleshly understanding when its about spiritual understanding
the fig tree gave up its growth so that Jesus Christ could use it to teach spiritual things
it could of fought to live but it did not
its like John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
is this fleshly life or spiritual life I say the context makes it spiritual life
Jesus Christ came to bring life after death
Jesus Christ did not have abundantly fleshly life
just wanted to tell you how you help me see God's truths more perfectly
"Believing" has no power whatsoever to alter circumstances outside of ourselves. However, what we believe does affect our attitude, courage and how we act about our circumstances.
Believing God's Word can and will release the power of God in a situation.
For the most part, telling a "mountain" in our lives to be gone won't budge. We built most of our own mountains ourselves. It is a lifelong work to, by the Holy Spirit, to tear down the stronghold that have been contructed in our lives. It is the presence of the Holy Spirit that gives us the effective weapons to tear down these strongholds.
Believing God's Word can and will release the power of God in a situation.
Evan,
This statement has been used and abused by so many in the "Word-Faith" movement as to make me cringe.
It makes me think of Star Wars...use the FORCE, Luke!
We are not talking about a magical process, one where you can invoke some spiritual force at your command. And that, IMHO, is exactly what TWI taught.
We are talking about utter conformance to God.
I seem to remember Phillipians 2:5 being repeated often. Was it one of the TWI retemories? But we didn't look at it in context.
Phl 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
Phl 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Phl 2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
Phl 2:8 And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.
Yeah, we are to have the mind of Christ. But what is that mind?
He emptied Himself when He tok on the form of a servant. He became ultimately humble. He became absolutely obedient to the will of the Father. Do we do this? Do we take on the form of a servant? To we humble ourselves? Do we become ultimately obedient unto the Will of God? Even when it's not convenient or pleasant to do so? Are we willing to walk in Christ's footsteps? Even to follow him down the road of suffering to Calvary? Just like many of the first century believers or believers in places a little less comfortable than the USA?
Or do we try to use God. Do we try to blackmail God toward the end of serving our own stomachs?
That statement you made (and I know this was not the context in which you made it), is used by word-faith preachers to encourage the latter.
And is quite disgusting...when it is mae in the context used by TWI.
Last word: I know that this is not the context in which you made this statement, Evan, so don't take the above as an attack upon you. You just used a catch phrase that is often, often used to teach people that Holy Spirit is no more than some magical spiritual power that can be harnassed if you know the right incantation.
Yeah, in my clumsy way I was trying to contrast the mythical 'power of believing' with the true source of all power, God Hisself. But now that you brought it up I can see the value in expressing things more clearly. Taken by itself I have the same reaction to the phrase as you.
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Thanks for taking the time to put this info here....I havent realy read my bible alot since I left twi..too many mountains to move..
great insight..I think I will actualy pull out mine...I have another mountain:)
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that was great insight you had to teach us
thank you
the mountains are our imaginations bad in our lives
2 Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
so many people look for the bible for fleshly understanding when its about spiritual understanding
the fig tree gave up its growth so that Jesus Christ could use it to teach spiritual things
it could of fought to live but it did not
its like John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
is this fleshly life or spiritual life I say the context makes it spiritual life
Jesus Christ came to bring life after death
Jesus Christ did not have abundantly fleshly life
just wanted to tell you how you help me see God's truths more perfectly
thank you
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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"Believing" has no power whatsoever to alter circumstances outside of ourselves. However, what we believe does affect our attitude, courage and how we act about our circumstances.
Believing God's Word can and will release the power of God in a situation.
For the most part, telling a "mountain" in our lives to be gone won't budge. We built most of our own mountains ourselves. It is a lifelong work to, by the Holy Spirit, to tear down the stronghold that have been contructed in our lives. It is the presence of the Holy Spirit that gives us the effective weapons to tear down these strongholds.
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Evan,
This statement has been used and abused by so many in the "Word-Faith" movement as to make me cringe.
It makes me think of Star Wars...use the FORCE, Luke!
We are not talking about a magical process, one where you can invoke some spiritual force at your command. And that, IMHO, is exactly what TWI taught.
We are talking about utter conformance to God.
I seem to remember Phillipians 2:5 being repeated often. Was it one of the TWI retemories? But we didn't look at it in context.
Yeah, we are to have the mind of Christ. But what is that mind?
He emptied Himself when He tok on the form of a servant. He became ultimately humble. He became absolutely obedient to the will of the Father. Do we do this? Do we take on the form of a servant? To we humble ourselves? Do we become ultimately obedient unto the Will of God? Even when it's not convenient or pleasant to do so? Are we willing to walk in Christ's footsteps? Even to follow him down the road of suffering to Calvary? Just like many of the first century believers or believers in places a little less comfortable than the USA?
Or do we try to use God. Do we try to blackmail God toward the end of serving our own stomachs?
That statement you made (and I know this was not the context in which you made it), is used by word-faith preachers to encourage the latter.
And is quite disgusting...when it is mae in the context used by TWI.
Last word: I know that this is not the context in which you made this statement, Evan, so don't take the above as an attack upon you. You just used a catch phrase that is often, often used to teach people that Holy Spirit is no more than some magical spiritual power that can be harnassed if you know the right incantation.
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How right you are, Mark.
Yeah, in my clumsy way I was trying to contrast the mythical 'power of believing' with the true source of all power, God Hisself. But now that you brought it up I can see the value in expressing things more clearly. Taken by itself I have the same reaction to the phrase as you.
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