Yes, Out There, I clearly remember a phone hookup in Indiana (it would have been in early 1997 as best I can remember) where he described himself doing just this. I WISH I had recorded the day and the event of the hook-up, but it must have been a Corps hookup, one of those Wednesday morning events we did for awhile. After the meeting, I looked at my husband and asked him if he thought that was a bit crazy - but as in Jonestown, we were not to question anything. I had to be careful to even suggest to my husband that I thought anything was in any way a little "off." But, LCM described what I would think any professional mental health expert would say was a psychotic event - unapproachable, distressed, "spiritually" spent, ... and that these times would break as quickly as they had come on. He would then be fine, drained, but ready to go on with normal daily activities. His physical surroundings during these times he described as being spent alone, with instructions not to be disturbed, no food, conversation, distractions, light, noise, company of any type. I sware I remember him saying that he just spiritually KNEW afterwards that Michael had won that battle, and he IMPLIED (if not directly stated) that his intervention allowed the victory.
Happyasaclam - It was a Corp morning that he said that... it was about that same time he'd go off for an hour or more at luch time with the staff pontificating about his spiritual battles. He believed it. And like you said - we HAD to.
I remember hearing something along these lines, too. I'm going to have to think on it, though, to be able to give specifics. It's highly probable that it came from my ex, though, as he IS, WAS and HAS BEEN for some time sold out to that degree.
The show opened up with Jim Jones saying, "Its Christ in you, the hope of glory." Where did I hear that before?
It was a very good show. I learned so much. I didn't know he had a church in Indianapolis, my hometown, or that he and his wife were the first white couple to adopt a black child in Indiana, or that he was well respected in the political world, at least while he lived in the states.
I saw this documentary a few night ago. At the end, Jim Jones was a really warped monster. It seems like earlier in the history of his church that he was a decent human intent on putting together a true community of believers. It would be great if we were able to see how his path got so caught up in a slippery spiritually deceived slope.
There was some very genuine love and joy in that community in some of the earlier days. It seems that part of the problem was JJ's overly controlling character. Near the end, he had become many cards short of a full deck.
I saw it a while ago. It was really creepy. I remember being in rez. when that all happened. I really don't think TWI with all its problems was ever on that level of evil, all those hundreds of people dead.
If, as implied in another thread, the abortion doctrine was a result of their sex activities, than yes, they were that bad. They did what they thought they could get away with. Isolationist and totalitarians. Thank God the fields of Ohio aren't as isolated as the jungles of Guyana.
Recommended Posts
Happyasaclam
Yes, Out There, I clearly remember a phone hookup in Indiana (it would have been in early 1997 as best I can remember) where he described himself doing just this. I WISH I had recorded the day and the event of the hook-up, but it must have been a Corps hookup, one of those Wednesday morning events we did for awhile. After the meeting, I looked at my husband and asked him if he thought that was a bit crazy - but as in Jonestown, we were not to question anything. I had to be careful to even suggest to my husband that I thought anything was in any way a little "off." But, LCM described what I would think any professional mental health expert would say was a psychotic event - unapproachable, distressed, "spiritually" spent, ... and that these times would break as quickly as they had come on. He would then be fine, drained, but ready to go on with normal daily activities. His physical surroundings during these times he described as being spent alone, with instructions not to be disturbed, no food, conversation, distractions, light, noise, company of any type. I sware I remember him saying that he just spiritually KNEW afterwards that Michael had won that battle, and he IMPLIED (if not directly stated) that his intervention allowed the victory.
A little hyperbolic, perhaps.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
ChasUFarley
Happyasaclam - It was a Corp morning that he said that... it was about that same time he'd go off for an hour or more at luch time with the staff pontificating about his spiritual battles. He believed it. And like you said - we HAD to.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Belle
I remember hearing something along these lines, too. I'm going to have to think on it, though, to be able to give specifics. It's highly probable that it came from my ex, though, as he IS, WAS and HAS BEEN for some time sold out to that degree.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
caribousam
I saw this documentary a few night ago. At the end, Jim Jones was a really warped monster. It seems like earlier in the history of his church that he was a decent human intent on putting together a true community of believers. It would be great if we were able to see how his path got so caught up in a slippery spiritually deceived slope.
There was some very genuine love and joy in that community in some of the earlier days. It seems that part of the problem was JJ's overly controlling character. Near the end, he had become many cards short of a full deck.
Edited by caribousamLink to comment
Share on other sites
dmiller
I watched the whole thing, and it was not the same as the one I had seen previously.
Yea --- JJ was a few fries short of a happy meal, for sure. :(
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bolshevik
If, as implied in another thread, the abortion doctrine was a result of their sex activities, than yes, they were that bad. They did what they thought they could get away with. Isolationist and totalitarians. Thank God the fields of Ohio aren't as isolated as the jungles of Guyana.
Edited by BolshevikLink to comment
Share on other sites
Bolshevik
Seriously,
the parallels.
"Everyone here is free to go as they please Senator"[sic]
The joy people had amongst each other vs. the heaviness when Jim Jones walked in
the community separate from "the world", building together, the ownership of all
selling of houses and giving all to the church
beauty above , darkness below
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.