satori said something on that thread we were derailing about "let's just tell it like it is" although those weren't his words why should we be afraid to talk about stuff ? is it disrespectful to say jan hendrikson (????) not sure of his name (ex10?) murdered 2 of "his believers"? it was all of over the newspapers but we have to protect him here ? what's the deal ? i agree a christian outfit would have prayed about this situation instead of hushing it up / hiding it. but then maybe the wa