Should she go to Jail?

[Dot Matrix]

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Tammy, of Dogs desrve better, is in trouble for helping a dying dog laying in the back yard of a stranger.

Should she go to jail? Or did she do the responsible thing?

Edited March 4, 2007 by Dot Matrix

[RottieGrrrl]

http://www.mail-archive.com/helptheanimals...m/msg00934.html

Tammy, of Dogs desrve better, is in trouble for helping a dying dog laying in the back yard of a stranger.

Should she go to jail? Or did she do the responsible thing?

God Dot. First of all NO! She should not go to jail!

I want you to know something right now. I know you have a humongo heart for animals, and God Bless you for that. God needs people like you who have hearts and a strong backbone to do this kind of stuff.

I couldn't read past the first part of the article. This is the thing. I cannot read stories about animal abuse, in any way, shape or form. I see your posts. I don't answer them, and I 'm not ignoring them because I don't care, or they are not intersting, I just can't take it.

For some reason, perhaps because I don't have children, animal abuse hurts me more than anything else in the world. Seeing animals bred irresponsibly frustrates me more than people who have children irresponsibly. I guess because the government helps with the kids, but it's only through kind caring strong souls like you, who see the end result of animal neglect and irresponsiblity, who are the ones who have to take up the slack, fill the void and be the responsible person caring for other peoples irresponsiblity.

Thank you for that. It's a thankless job.

Edited March 4, 2007 by RottieGrrrl

[Dot Matrix]

Thanks Rottie

Our mail man at the hospital has Animal Control on Speed Dial. He sees dogs tied to a tree without water in 100o weather, beaten, sick and abused dogs all day long.

I would have had to so something if this dog were in my neighbor's yard.

Just Like I would call the police if I saw a beaten child, or spouse...

Right now I neeed prayers for little TY who still is in need of a home, I only have a few days left to find him a place.

Back to the topic, it took some great heart for this woman to step in and help this dog, IMO

Edited March 4, 2007 by Dot Matrix

[excathedra]

how's the dog ? i couldn't read or watch too much either and i'm a mom

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we had a dog down by the baseball field locked in a shed all day in the hot summer month of august. you could hear it crying

we went (my son and his friend [an abused boy]) and climbed the fence and broke open the shed and let the dog out

we gave the doggie ice water and food

we did this for weeks while the dog owners were at work

i called the humane society and the local police

i hope the doggie is okay

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i just had to do it, especially because the one who alerted us to this dog was the abused boy

life sure can suck

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i wish i could take that dog, dottie

Edited March 4, 2007 by excathedra

[Ductape]

Did she break the law?

[Dot Matrix]

I do not know how the dog is currently.

Why would anyone lock a dog in a shed in the summer? It can "bake" in there like in a hot car.

I am so glad you took care of him, is he okay?

[excathedra]

i'm pretty sure i did when i trespassed

i'm sorry god

[Dot Matrix]

Not sure if she broke the law.

This was in PA>

I know HERE in this state we have the right to do certain things to help animals. They do not take abuse lightly here, after you get someone to finally listen to you.

[excathedra]

i think he barked a lot or something, i don't know

but he was in that shed with all his poo poo and it was terribly hot in there

?????????

i don't know how he is

i think they moved

[RottieGrrrl]

I don't care if she did break the (as exie would put it) phuking law. The hell with the (as exie would put it) phcking law. Just because its a law doesn't mean it's necessarily a good, moral, or righteous law.

[excathedra]

i feel special

[RottieGrrrl]

i feel special

You nutball!

[Rocky]

I know I couldn't read about that animal abuse... and since it's in a newspaper (that is a newspaper isn't it?), IF a local prosecutor had any inkling about charging her with tresspassing or anything else, I'm confident public outcry would put a stop to it right quick.

THAT doesn't mean she would necessarily be immune to a civil suit. I don't know, but a lawyer might be able to shed insight on it further.

btw, I AM a dad.

[Dot Matrix]

Ex

They moved and took that poor dog with them to torture him some more? Geez

I am glad you did the ethical thing by helping him.

I would have visited you in jail.

Rottie

Phucking "A"

[excathedra]

i hope to god someone stepped in before they moved

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sweet rottie girl

i only meant that animal abuse affects me deeply as it does you

that was my reference to having a kid

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i love you

and

dot

and

rocky

and all living beings

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you know what was so sad, the boy who wanted to rescue that pup in the shed.... he always wears a hat (had it on in the summer) when i asked him why, he told me about the big knot on his head which embarrasses him

his father put it there when he knocked him across the room

oh god

maybe i should go watch disney channel or something

[Ductape]

Vigilante law is acceptable when animal abuse is suspected?

[RottieGrrrl]

Vigilante law is acceptable when animal abuse is suspected?

Yes

[RottieGrrrl]

Not only acceptable but taking the dog away, even if you were breaking the law, would be the Godly thing to do.

[Ductape]

Not only acceptable but taking the dog away, even if you were breaking the law, would be the Godly thing to do.

Godly as in service to the same God that demanded animal sacrifice in the Old Testament?

[RottieGrrrl]

Godly as in service to the same God that demanded animal sacrifice in the Old Testament?

Come on man, don't dick with me. Torturing animals is not what God required. Sheesh. At least not MY God that I know.

Edited March 4, 2007 by RottieGrrrl

[Rocky]

Vigilante law is acceptable when animal abuse is suspected?

It seems apparent that duccy was toying with you rottiegrll...

I don't know about vigilantyism, but rescuing an abused animal certainly.

[RottieGrrrl]

You call it being toyed I call it being dicked with. But thank you Rocky. My dad taught us as kids that if your going to kill something (to eat) than you kill it. You don't torture it. Being out in extreme heat with no water, beating, hurting, and making an animal suffer is from the devil, not God.

and I should add once you make an animal a pet, I don't care if it's a turkey at Thanksgiving, you DONT KILL IT ONCE YOU MAKE IT A PET.

[Ductape]

You call it being toyed I call it being dicked with. But thank you Rocky. My dad taught us as kids that if your going to kill something (to eat) than you kill it. You don't torture it. Being out in extreme heat with no water, beating, hurting, and making an animal suffer is from the devil, not God.

and I should add once you make an animal a pet, I don't care if it's a turkey at Thanksgiving, you DONT KILL IT ONCE YOU MAKE IT A PET.

There something wrong with honest questions?

Suffering animals seem to suffer and be in pain longer when they are "rescued". Most are never "right" again. The humane thing use to be to put them "out of their misery", never pleasant and took some guts to do it, their suffering was ended quickly.

If your neighbor is abusing it's child and you go remove the child from them, you have taken the law into your own hands. So what if you notified the authorities and they didn't do what you wanted them to do in what you consider a timely manner; you have kid-napped that child! Animals have more rights under the law than children? If so it is because those laws are yet to be challenged and won't hold up. If an animal is being abused there are laws in place and procedures to be followed. It is like playing god to take the law into your own hands.

[excathedra]

i think the parent / owner should be tied up on a chain locked up in the shed without water etc.

[excathedra]

good point duct about going and removing a child yourself from a home. i never would have thought of that