Many in Wiccan /pagan beliefs believe a saying 'As above so below'---that the natural world is a reflection of the spiritual. So spiritual things can be somewhat understood by understanding the world around us.
In our world there are natural cycles of water, decay--things change but are not really lost...most Wiccans believe in some form of afterlife followed by new life someday. Sometimes they call it Summerland, or Tir NA Nog.
People seek visions or lucid dreams, especially around Samhain, hoping for a glimpse of loved ones passed on, or of a spiritual seeing into the spiritual world. Humans, being part of this physical world, only have glimpses of the spiritual.
But all those experiences would be in the realm of unverified personal gnossis--no physical evidence or proof, because it is not physical.
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JumpinJive
Hey cman! Loved this quote by Ernest Becker in the trailer. It twisted my mind a bit.
-JJ
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cman
Thanks JumpinJive, I got the video from a link sirg posted.
I think i'll order the thing.
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cman
Does anyone think that the life that is after death can be seen now while we live in this physical world and body?
And I do think a few had it before Christ died on the cross.
Enoch and Moses comes to mind.
As well as the mount of transfiguration.
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cman
well i do, not trying to trap anyone, just making conversation.
even if you don't believe it we can still converse.
i'm not recruiting.......
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Many in Wiccan /pagan beliefs believe a saying 'As above so below'---that the natural world is a reflection of the spiritual. So spiritual things can be somewhat understood by understanding the world around us.
In our world there are natural cycles of water, decay--things change but are not really lost...most Wiccans believe in some form of afterlife followed by new life someday. Sometimes they call it Summerland, or Tir NA Nog.
People seek visions or lucid dreams, especially around Samhain, hoping for a glimpse of loved ones passed on, or of a spiritual seeing into the spiritual world. Humans, being part of this physical world, only have glimpses of the spiritual.
But all those experiences would be in the realm of unverified personal gnossis--no physical evidence or proof, because it is not physical.
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Abigail
Yeah, I think it is possible. Yet, I am also highly skepitcal of those who claim they can - it usually requires the giving of money
Really, though, it is not a subject I really care to delve into - perhaps I've seen too many horror movies growing up.
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year2027
God first
Beloved cman
God loves you my dear friend
I believe the life we will live after death can be seen and feeled in our dreams and visions
while I not sure about any other ways there may be other ways too
thank you
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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cman
Yeah...lol...no money required Abigail.
In fact it has come as quite a surprise to me.
Not expecting but seeing more then I thought possible.
Also seeing how right many have been in ear shot throughout my life.
Also how against what I learned vpw was, and why.
It probably scared the crap out of him that something else was smarter then him.
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