sirguessalot Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 I've never been on a retreat, so forgive me. Do I say, have fun? Learn lots? Whatever, I do wish you well.thanx, veganxtcand yeah...i'm never sure what to say, either "see you on the other side" ...perhaps? i dunno some day i would like to think i can find the courage to write of my experiences here who knows...maybe i'll find a voice for it during the retreat we'll see, i guess "If I ascend to heaven, thou art there; / If I make my bed in Sheol, lo, thou art there!" gawd...this really is one of my favorite lines from a song it says so much, ihmo, one could spend many days and weeks and months with just it cuz it really seems to challenge the notion that one can be outside of God's presence or that God can be somehow be distant or away or elsewhere in some other place than within God which perhaps, is a big part of why the song has been used in end of life care for so many thousands of years and in many cultures and religions ... ive heard it said that hell goes all the way to hell and heaven goes all the way to heaven no matter where you sit the rungs of jacob's ladder go forever in both directions and no matter what rung you wake up and find yourself upon there is always still a rung directly above and a rung directly below though depending on the object of our attention one may not always realize this very ordinary thing Hidden wholeness...I was thinking about something that might be the opposite...hidden brokenness. yep...what is hidden is hidden and if one cant respond to what is broken (though that sense of sense of self will be 'smoking like a wick' one's perspective does not include the whole picture perhaps its not that we are 'becoming something new' but that we are really just becoming more 'wholly aware' of that which we already are by taking a step or more 'backward within' and adding new perspectives to those we already have so that one can see, or more deeply feel (or touches) that which has always already been there 'from the beginning,' as it were we gain a radically newer sense of our same ole original self which is how we are simply angels sitting on rungs and have already come a long long long way on a journey that will never ever end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirguessalot Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) sitting here reading around a bit more and found where Parker Palmer found the title for his book "hidden wholeness" from "Hagia Sophia" by Thomas Merton: "There is in all things an invisible fecundity, a dimmed light, a meek namelessness, a hidden wholeness, This mysterious Unity, and Integrity, is Wisdom, the Mother of all, Natura naturans" i had to look-up "fecundity" = pregnant, fertile, etc... Edited October 15, 2006 by sirguessalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sitting here reading around a bit more
and found where Parker Palmer found the title for his book "hidden wholeness"
from "Hagia Sophia" by Thomas Merton:
"There is in all things an invisible fecundity,
a dimmed light,
a meek namelessness,
a hidden wholeness,
This mysterious Unity,
and Integrity,
is Wisdom,
the Mother of all,
Natura naturans"
i had to look-up "fecundity"
= pregnant, fertile, etc...
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