So my question is if Mr Rapist was Illegally captures and returned to the USA--- does not that invalidate not only his arrest but the entire court proceeding and make him a free man.
DOG and Co should not have disregarded Mexican law
BUT
our government was more than happy to overlook that little technicality in order to put a rapist behind bars (which is where said rapist belongs)
Now our government seems to be saying that DOG and company need to be punished for doing the job, the fruits of which the government was only to happy to accept, that brought the rapist back for trial
So my question is if Mr Rapist was Illegally captures and returned to the USA--- does not that invalidate not only his arrest but the entire court proceeding and make him a free man.
DOG and Co should not have disregarded Mexican law
BUT
our government was more than happy to overlook that little technicality in order to put a rapist behind bars (which is where said rapist belongs)
Now our government seems to be saying that DOG and company need to be punished for doing the job, the fruits of which the government was only to happy to accept, that brought the rapist back for trial
can anyone spell h y p o c r i s y
Dog and company didn't violate any U.S. laws so I don't think it would have any bearing on Senor Rapist's court proceedings. The Mexican government turned him over to the United States government not Dog, because Dog was taken into custody by the Mexican authorities.
I don't see any hypocrisy with the way the United States is handling the situation. We have an extradition treaty with Mexico and the Mexican authorities what him extradited because he broke the laws of Mexico. If someone broke a law in the United States and fled to Mexico, we would expect the Mexican authorities to honor our request to have him/her returned to the U.S.
What basis do you think the United States has for denying extradition? Chapman, Chapman, and Chapman caught a criminal who commited a crime in the U.S., but knowingly broke a Mexican law in Mexico doing it. They should have considered the consequences before entering Mexico.
My understanding of the situation was that Chapman and Co entered Mexico because the Mexican Authorities DID Not extradite Mr Rapist--That was the problem--Mexico was not extraditing the rapist--if they had been he would have been in custody--not running loose where Chapman and Co found him
My understanding of the situation was that Chapman and Co entered Mexico because the Mexican Authorities DID Not extradite Mr Rapist--That was the problem--Mexico was not extraditing the rapist--if they had been he would have been in custody--not running loose where Chapman and Co found him
Mr Rapist could not be located by any authorities around the world. Chapman got word through an informat he was in Puerto Vallarta, so Dog grabbed his son, and Tim and went down South to capture him, knowing full well it was illegal in Mexico for bounty hunters to operate. He caught the fugative and there was such a scene made, locals called in the Mexican police. The police arrived and took them all of them into custody, Mr Rapist because he was wanted in the U.S., and the bounty hunters because they were breaking Mexican laws.
The Mexican government extradited Mr Rapist to the U.S. That is how is was able to stand trial and be convicted. Mexico in no way tried to keep the United States from getting possession of the fugative.
Mexico allowed the Chapman team to post bail and they returned to the U.S. Now they have decided to prosecute them. The bounty hunters are now fighting extradition to Mexico.
Tuesday nite was a tv special, and the Chapmans and others who support them had a chance to speak their piece. It is airing again on AE TV: "Dog: The Family Speaks"
Sunday, September 24 11:00am EST
Saturday, September 23 5:00pm EST
Thursday, September 21 1:00am EST
Wednesday, September 20 9:00pm EST
Wednesday, September 20 2:00am EST
Also more information may be obtained at (These web pages were set up in the last few days for the purpose of supporting Duane Chapman and his family and friends):
The website started by Tanya "Doe," one of the rapist's victims who believes Dog and his crew literally saved her life (The 124 year prison term he is serving despite the most high priced lawyers money can buy, should indicate the type of violent criminal he is, and the relief we all should feel that he is off the streets.)
This web page has a bunch of links. This page also has a petition to sign. It was at 12K a couple of days ago when I signed it. Now there are over 47K names/signatures.
Mexico in no way tried to keep the United States from getting possession of the fugative
letting said fugitive roam the streets of Puerto Vallarta freely while doing nothing to apprehend him- (and please don't tell me that the Mexican Government does not keep track of the gringos in Mexican vacation hot spots) is in fact a way of preventing the United States from getting their hands on him. Mexico only bothered to extradite him after they had no choice because he was in custody--and they only had him in custody because Chapman and Co went and got him. If the authorities in Puerta Vallarta had their way our friendly neighborhood rapist would still be wandering free --spending mucho dinnero
Sounds like they are making progress. The Mexican Government has agreed to issue an injunction against extraditing Dog while the charges are being investigated. I don't have a link to show the detail, but this info came out of a press conference held by Dog and his lawyer yesterday and reported on AP.
HONOLULU (Dec. 8) - A court hearing in Mexico that could drop charges against TV bounty hunter Duane "Dog" Chapman or order his criminal case to proceed has been rescheduled to Dec. 22.
The hearing was to begin Monday in Guadalajara but was postponed because a report from a lower court was not received.
The 53-year-old star of the A&E reality series "Dog the Bounty Hunter" is charged under Mexican law with deprivation of liberty for his June 2003 capture of convicted rapist Andrew Luster, the Max Factor heir, in Puerto Vallarta. Luster is serving a 124-year prison term.
Chapman's attorney, William Bollard, will present arguments in Mexico, and Chapman is not expected to attend the closed hearing.
March 7, 2007. Hawaii State Legislature calls emergency hearing to support Dog the Bounty Hunter trio and fight their extradition. Last month, Representative Gene Ward (Rep.Hawai,i Kai-Kalama Valley) introduced House Concurrent Resolution 50, requesting that the Hawaii State Legislature stand up and support the Chapmans, and ask the government and courts of Mexico to drop their extradition proceedings against them. Duane "Dog" Chapman committed to personally appear before the International Affairs Committee which is hearing the measure. Once Resolution 50 passes the committee, it will be referred to the House Judiciary Committee for a second hearing, and then is expected to move forward to passage.
On February 16, 2007 the Mexican federal court denied Dog and his posse an injunction request and ruled that they should be extradited and stand trial for deprivation of liberty. The charge stems from the 2003 capture of the convicted serial rapist, Andrew Luster, in Puerto Vallarta.
TMZ has learned that Duane "Dog" Chapman will be back in business and back on the air on A&E. Woof!
A network official confirms to TMZ that the show is going back into production, but they've not yet set a premiere date. As of now, they're gearing up -- big time -- in Hawaii and production will begin ASAP. Makeup artists and camera crews have been hired, and houses and cars have been rented, all for the return of the show.
A&E had suspended production on "Dog the Bounty Hunter" indefinitely after a recording surfaced featuring Chapman making racial slurs. Chapman immediately began a tour of forgiveness, working with CORE and other groups to promote racial equality. We're told network execs were "very pleased" with Dog's attempt to make amends and his reaching out to members of the African American community.
A&E isn't just making this decision out of the goodness of their hearts either. The show was insanely popular for the network, here and internationally -- airing in over 20 countries.
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So my question is if Mr Rapist was Illegally captures and returned to the USA--- does not that invalidate not only his arrest but the entire court proceeding and make him a free man.
DOG and Co should not have disregarded Mexican law
BUT
our government was more than happy to overlook that little technicality in order to put a rapist behind bars (which is where said rapist belongs)
Now our government seems to be saying that DOG and company need to be punished for doing the job, the fruits of which the government was only to happy to accept, that brought the rapist back for trial
can anyone spell h y p o c r i s y
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Dog and company didn't violate any U.S. laws so I don't think it would have any bearing on Senor Rapist's court proceedings. The Mexican government turned him over to the United States government not Dog, because Dog was taken into custody by the Mexican authorities.
I don't see any hypocrisy with the way the United States is handling the situation. We have an extradition treaty with Mexico and the Mexican authorities what him extradited because he broke the laws of Mexico. If someone broke a law in the United States and fled to Mexico, we would expect the Mexican authorities to honor our request to have him/her returned to the U.S.
What basis do you think the United States has for denying extradition? Chapman, Chapman, and Chapman caught a criminal who commited a crime in the U.S., but knowingly broke a Mexican law in Mexico doing it. They should have considered the consequences before entering Mexico.
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My understanding of the situation was that Chapman and Co entered Mexico because the Mexican Authorities DID Not extradite Mr Rapist--That was the problem--Mexico was not extraditing the rapist--if they had been he would have been in custody--not running loose where Chapman and Co found him
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Mr Rapist could not be located by any authorities around the world. Chapman got word through an informat he was in Puerto Vallarta, so Dog grabbed his son, and Tim and went down South to capture him, knowing full well it was illegal in Mexico for bounty hunters to operate. He caught the fugative and there was such a scene made, locals called in the Mexican police. The police arrived and took them all of them into custody, Mr Rapist because he was wanted in the U.S., and the bounty hunters because they were breaking Mexican laws.
The Mexican government extradited Mr Rapist to the U.S. That is how is was able to stand trial and be convicted. Mexico in no way tried to keep the United States from getting possession of the fugative.
Mexico allowed the Chapman team to post bail and they returned to the U.S. Now they have decided to prosecute them. The bounty hunters are now fighting extradition to Mexico.
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Tuesday nite was a tv special, and the Chapmans and others who support them had a chance to speak their piece. It is airing again on AE TV: "Dog: The Family Speaks"
Sunday, September 24 11:00am EST
Saturday, September 23 5:00pm EST
Thursday, September 21 1:00am EST
Wednesday, September 20 9:00pm EST
Wednesday, September 20 2:00am EST
Also more information may be obtained at (These web pages were set up in the last few days for the purpose of supporting Duane Chapman and his family and friends):
Free the Dog Defense Fund of Tanya "Doe"
The website started by Tanya "Doe," one of the rapist's victims who believes Dog and his crew literally saved her life (The 124 year prison term he is serving despite the most high priced lawyers money can buy, should indicate the type of violent criminal he is, and the relief we all should feel that he is off the streets.)
Web site with political information on what a person can do
This web page has who to write, who to call, who to email in support of Duane Chapman and family and friends.
Another Free the Dog web page
This web page has a bunch of links. This page also has a petition to sign. It was at 12K a couple of days ago when I signed it. Now there are over 47K names/signatures.
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letting said fugitive roam the streets of Puerto Vallarta freely while doing nothing to apprehend him- (and please don't tell me that the Mexican Government does not keep track of the gringos in Mexican vacation hot spots) is in fact a way of preventing the United States from getting their hands on him. Mexico only bothered to extradite him after they had no choice because he was in custody--and they only had him in custody because Chapman and Co went and got him. If the authorities in Puerta Vallarta had their way our friendly neighborhood rapist would still be wandering free --spending mucho dinnero
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I won't. If ever you decide you want to know the facts concerning the capture of Luster, google "Andrew Luster Capture".
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Sounds like they are making progress. The Mexican Government has agreed to issue an injunction against extraditing Dog while the charges are being investigated. I don't have a link to show the detail, but this info came out of a press conference held by Dog and his lawyer yesterday and reported on AP.
So-there's hope!
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Thanks. I was wondering how it was going.
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Condoleezza Rice has been asked to block the extradition of Dog and Co to Mexico.
He does have some powerful friends in this country. We'll see how it comes out.
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From the TV show website:
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I think he was recently freed of all charges.
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