Can't remember the title, but it was the NG episode where Data is put on trial to determine whether he is or isn't a 'sentient being'. Some starfleet yahoo wants to take him apart, and Picard defends him, while Riker is strongarmed into prosecuting against Data.
Excellent episode in every way. Picard at his best,delivering said quote, and one of those episodes that turned me from a Riker 'hater' to him being one of my favorite characters. The Starfleet judge's performance is kind of off to me though.
"If it should become necessary to fight, could you arrange to find me some rocks to throw at them?"
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"Well, Number One. I can see why you want to keep the away-missions to yourself. That's where the excitement is. So what's been happening here ? Same old routine, I suppose."
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Raf
"Your Honor, Starfleet was founded to seek out new life... well, there it sits!"
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Can't remember the title, but it was the NG episode where Data is put on trial to determine whether he is or isn't a 'sentient being'. Some starfleet yahoo wants to take him apart, and Picard defends him, while Riker is strongarmed into prosecuting against Data.
Excellent episode in every way. Picard at his best,delivering said quote, and one of those episodes that turned me from a Riker 'hater' to him being one of my favorite characters. The Starfleet judge's performance is kind of off to me though.
All that critique and I can't think of the title.
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Hiway29 got it.
It's "Measure of a Man."
I liked the episode, but was disappointed in 2 things:
A) Picard did not prepare his case well.
He did not anticipate Riker's case, and Riker made a fair, but refutable one.
"He's not alive because he can be switched off?"
Well, 10 seconds, you can switch any human unconscious if you know how,
or (as Raf pointed out when I said that) in 1 second, a vulcan can throw the switch.
"He's not alive because of his physical makeup?"
There's no "that's formism" defense? Are Starfleet members' rights limited
to their resemblance to humanoids?
B) Data had been accepted at Starfleet Academy as a student.
At the time, he HAD to have been fully accepted as alive and a fully-participating
member of the United Federation of Planets.
Data had since spent YEARS serving in Starfleet as an officer.
Can Starfleet retroactively dismiss the entire service record of ANY officer
and declare them a non-entity whenever they want?
Is there no 'CLU equivalent in the future?
This is the kind of case they LIVE for!!! :)
Seems to me that would have been the most DANGEROUS precedent to set,
and there had to be TONS of caselaw showing that the rights of any citizen,
any officer, can't be revoked. I mean, their Seventh Guarantee is against
self-incrimination (the US' Fifth Amendment), but they can't guarantee
non-slavery? While you're a slave (lacking control over your own body and
whether or not it's disassembled), however, you're protected against
incriminating yourself at trial-doesn't that make you feel better?
No? Well, me neither.
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you must be a lawyer Wordwolf
I'll have the next quote a little bit later
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"Well, what do you know. I finally got the last word."
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GeorgeStGeorge
McCoy, in original series "Journey to Babel." Pleased with himself because he could get his patients (Spock, Kirk, and Sarek) to shut up.
George
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hiway29
go George
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GeorgeStGeorge
"We have to out-Ferengi... the Ferengi."
George
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"We have to out-Ferengi... the Ferengi."
"Exploitation begins in the home."
George
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I'm amazed this isn't sounding vaguely familiar.
I've got NOTHING.
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Voyager v. the Ferengi. These are the Ferengi who got lost through a wormhole in a Next Gen episode. Voyager found them.
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GeorgeStGeorge
Right, Raf!
"False Profits."
You're up!
George
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"Fate protects fools, little children and ships named Enterprise"
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Priceless line from ST:TNG.
Forget the episode, though.
*wild swing* "Yesterday's Enterprise"?
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GeorgeStGeorge
I thought you were right. WW, so I looked it up. You have the right series, but the wrong episode.
Play on!
George
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WordWolf
I believe another, less dramatic quote, might be called for here.
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GeorgeStGeorge
I could add a couple of quotes that would have given it away (for me); but ths is Raf's baby.
George
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"Status of torpedo banks?"
"They're down, too."
"If it should become necessary to fight, could you arrange to find me some rocks to throw at them?"
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"Well, Number One. I can see why you want to keep the away-missions to yourself. That's where the excitement is. So what's been happening here ? Same old routine, I suppose."
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WordWolf
Ok,
that was the Iconian computer thingy that did that.
Let's see,
that was the episode "Contagion" that had the Iconians.
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Raf
Correct
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"Hailing frequencies CLOSED, sir."
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"Hailing frequencies CLOSED, sir."
"My friend Data, you see things with the wonder of a child. And that makes you more human than any of us."
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GeorgeStGeorge
Next Generation, obviously.
I'm thinking "The Offspring," where Data builds a daughter.
George
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WordWolf
Right series, wrong episode.
Something a bit earlier in the series...
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