The libs want laws to legitimize homosexual marriage, issue licenses to same sex couples, etc.
The cons want laws defining marriage as....well...we all know the drill.
My question is WHY does the state need to be involved in any of that? Why does a free citizen require a "license" in order to marry, shack up or anything else he/she/it wants to do?
Get the state OUT of all those issues altogether...maybe get rid of a lot of the entitlement programs...and just let people be free and do what they're gonna do, anyway.
The states job should be to provide for the common defense, arbitrate disputes and protect the integrity of private property. Anything they do beyond that is meddling.
Has anyone ever calculated the cost in lost tax revenue to states and the feds if these people could file joint rather than single? Could that be more the factor than the protection of "marriage"?
My question is WHY does the state need to be involved in any of that? Why does a free citizen require a "license" in order to marry, shack up or anything else he/she/it wants to do?
I think it is the masses of lawyers figuring out rules that benefit them. They want their hands in every transaction possible ... and most politicians are lawyers ...
It is easy to get married with a minister, but when it comes to dividing assets you need a lawyer to take his cut. Then when you die, if you didn't pay a lawyer to set up a trust, lawyers will take 5 or 10% in probate. Many things you can do without a lawyer, but you risk getting taken to the cleaners by someone with an aggressive lawyer.
I have some friends who are a lesbian couple. They would like to be legally married. One big issue for them is the next of kin issue. If they were legally married they would be next of kin and able to make medical decisions etc for their spouse if need be. One of the ladies has a loving family, but the other has an awful family that kicked her out and has nothing to do with her--yet they are legally next of kin. They could bar her spouse from the hospital room, and from any end of life decisions. If there are legal ways around that, they are either not aware of them or not able to afford them.
Health insurance is also a big issue. Heck it has been an issue in my family adn we are legally married. A lesbiamn couple would ahve even a more difficult time with health insurance $$.
The state already is involved--inheretance laws etc.
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The libs want laws to legitimize homosexual marriage, issue licenses to same sex couples, etc.
The cons want laws defining marriage as....well...we all know the drill.
My question is WHY does the state need to be involved in any of that? Why does a free citizen require a "license" in order to marry, shack up or anything else he/she/it wants to do?
Get the state OUT of all those issues altogether...maybe get rid of a lot of the entitlement programs...and just let people be free and do what they're gonna do, anyway.
The states job should be to provide for the common defense, arbitrate disputes and protect the integrity of private property. Anything they do beyond that is meddling.
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Has anyone ever calculated the cost in lost tax revenue to states and the feds if these people could file joint rather than single? Could that be more the factor than the protection of "marriage"?
Just curious...
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I think it is the masses of lawyers figuring out rules that benefit them. They want their hands in every transaction possible ... and most politicians are lawyers ...
It is easy to get married with a minister, but when it comes to dividing assets you need a lawyer to take his cut. Then when you die, if you didn't pay a lawyer to set up a trust, lawyers will take 5 or 10% in probate. Many things you can do without a lawyer, but you risk getting taken to the cleaners by someone with an aggressive lawyer.
Overlawyered.com is good though depressing.
Why do they bury lawyers 20 feet deep?
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Cause deep down they're good people.
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I have some friends who are a lesbian couple. They would like to be legally married. One big issue for them is the next of kin issue. If they were legally married they would be next of kin and able to make medical decisions etc for their spouse if need be. One of the ladies has a loving family, but the other has an awful family that kicked her out and has nothing to do with her--yet they are legally next of kin. They could bar her spouse from the hospital room, and from any end of life decisions. If there are legal ways around that, they are either not aware of them or not able to afford them.
Health insurance is also a big issue. Heck it has been an issue in my family adn we are legally married. A lesbiamn couple would ahve even a more difficult time with health insurance $$.
The state already is involved--inheretance laws etc.
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