pardon me, i had to barf

[watersedge]

i had a day off so i spent some time lurking (reading)

logging on to post a few

then back to reading (lurking)

this group twi makes my stomach turn and my throat gag

the more i read, the sicker my stomach gets

i guess what sickens me most is the arrogance of some of the leader group

sure ive read some positive things and good things about lots of people

who were in twi, but some of the leaders deserve skinning

im gonna get drunk tonight (have tomorrow off too)

cook a t-bone one the grill when the rain quits

play some awesome drums with my neighbor

and get drunk

thats the only thing that will get the barf taste of twi outta my mouth

im so sorry any of you had to endure that crap

Edited July 13, 2006 by watersedge

[TheHighWay]

Waters Edge,

I take it you were never a part of twi... what brings you lurking?

[watersedge]

Ive never been a part of the way (witnessed or recruited, whatever word you may choose)

was as far as my involvment goes. i was totally turned off by my one time shot at joining

in 1987. my girlfriend at the time went head and heals over the spiel and left me because

of my refusals.............so much for "meaningful relationship"

since then i have tried a few different religions, a few sects, a few churches and my general conclusion

is that most, if not all of man's religion sucks. at least my parents taught me to be mindful of other's feelings and how to be tolerant of others life. i won't give you a list of every indescretion or screw-ups

commited by me, but if you allow me i will give you an "i like" list

1. honesty

2. beer

3. good music (all flavors)

4. walks on the beach

5. sunsets and sunrises (up for both most times)

6. good cookouts

7. good beer

8. real heart (as opposed to false care)

9. life........i take it as it comes

10. ice cold beer

that reminds me of something i was told a long time ago, if the beer* and food are good and tastey

you got nothing to complain about

*substitute soda or wine if desired

this is what brought me here, curiosity

to find an or some answers for a lingering question

what was soo terribly great about the way that my

girlfriend chose them over me

if that's a bad reason then excuse me

but this i will say, my motive is selfish, for me

to try to find out the whys

yet the more i read the more i hurl

[TheHighWay]

That's not a bad reason at all. It's a perfectly good reason to lurk and learn.

As for what was so all-fired-great about twi that caused your girlfriend to chose them over you? I can only speak from experience... deep down, whether she knew it or not, she wanted answers. She wanted someone to say, "I have the answers and I can show you what they are, and they will make your life better."

Did she need to feel secure? a part of something big? a chance to be better than she thought she was? a sense of her place in the universe? all of the above? You may or may not know already.

I'm really sorry she hurt you. If you stay and read for very long you'll find that twi was the rock upon which many a relationship (and marriage) was broken. (including my own)

Is she still involved?

Edited July 14, 2006 by TheHighWay

[watersedge]

Is she still involved?

i cant answer that

if she is then thats part of the life she chose

and i can live with that

I'm really sorry she hurt you. If you stay and read for very long you'll find that twi was the rock upon which many a relationship (and marriage) was broken. (including my own)

as in bashed ..............i married after this took place yet i cant seem to come to the

place where i feel settled. my marriage fell apart partly because of my previous relation

my fault totally

highway i suppose im on a quest for answers, yet at times i feel that those answers have been laid at my table. why did i find this cyber place, simply out of the curious and then i started to read

and the more i read the more sick i got. how in this world could anyone do that much harm to a human heart?

to me good does good , evil does good at being evil

maybe we are all here, not at gs, but here for a reason

to be who we want , to let the soul of who is in us to come out and in the case of me

maybe i need you and this forum to help me get

to the places i need, the peace and reconciliation

that god meant for me

here i am, naked before you, naked in that you see why

and why i lurked and looked

now i speak, now im relevant again

Edited July 14, 2006 by watersedge

[shazdancer]

true, watersedge.

Part of the healing is in understanding what happened.

The other part is getting yourself to the place where it doesn't happen again.

I'm still working on the second part.

Regards,

Shaz

[GrouchoMarxJr]

Watersedge...welcome to the Greasespot cafe...sit down and have a cup of coffee...or some beer if you please. There's no strangers at this website...only friends we haven't met...we ARE an intersting group of ex cult members who discuss some rather sordid things from time to time...

[TheHighWay]

Watersedge,

thanks for your reply. you are indeed welcome here!

If you haven't yet, you should read the thread "TWI never gave nothing to the Tin Man..." it deals with how each of us has had to deal with our time in twi, our departure, and how we've all dealt with the aftermath. So many of us have deep hurts which take a long time to heal. It's a process, and everyone is on their own time-table.

I'm glad you've found this place. I hope you can find your peace.

[excathedra]

now i speak, now im relevant again

boy if that doesn't say it for me

[sprawled out]

watersedge, you should be thankful.

i also had a girlfriend who got involved with twi. she most definitely chose it over me. so i decided the only way to get her out would be to really learn about it, and refute it "from within." that was in 1976, and i got sucked in, big time, for 11 years.

you, my friend, dodged a major-league bullet.

[FreeAtLast]

Watersedge:

I like your philosophy.

My parents got me in the Way at the ripe old age of 11. I took the class as soon as I was of age and didn't leave for 28 years. Quite a sheltered life I lived. Since then and with the help of a counselor I saw how controlled I was even under the dillusion of freedom. Her choosing the way over you was nothing personal toward you. It was just the Way it had to be.

After going through the Way Corps program the available guys became more limited to me. It was just an unspoken rule. A Way Corps woman is not supposed to married a non Way Corps guy. So instead of going with our hearts we were schooled to pick the guy we felt we could "move the Word with".

So don't take her rejection personally. Many of us did pretty much what our leadership told us to do. Hope that helps you come to grips with that rejection a little better.

Holly

[watersedge]

free

the rejection is personal cause it involved my person

yet i do know what you mean and say thanks, i am glad you now have freedom

that shows growth and maturity

thanks sprawled, really

the doged bullet would have done me in

ex.... never thought i would be a mouthpiece, but then again

kindred hearts keep kindred souls

thanks grouch, shaz, hiway

the words you plced in my ear have been heard

[dmiller]

i had a day off so i spent some time lurking (reading)

logging on to post a few

then back to reading (lurking)

this group twi makes my stomach turn and my throat gag

the more i read, the sicker my stomach gets

i guess what sickens me most is the arrogance of some of the leader group

Hiya Edge. :)

Which leader group *sickenens you the most*??

twi (as a whole) is a path that leads downward --- quickly.

Some of us have seen the *good, the bad, and the ugly*

(But that includes the good.) :)

There was a time --------------------

Ahhh. But I digress -----------------

[watersedge]

no digresion d

maybe it is the whole human experience

like you said

maybe there WAS a time

hate them cps