I was still a newbie when the chalet was built and not aware of how the building of this thing was promoted.
But, when I was in-rez (late 1980s) we were given a tour of the place and told that it was originally intended to be a new residence for VPW and Dotsie. He was gonna hang out there, and let the corps hang out there and fellowship. But after he spent a very short time there he decided he HATED it. He missed his own home and decided not to move afterall. (so much for thinking things through, counting the cost, revelation, etc.)
So, now they had this big, expensive building standing empty. Most of us would say, "More room for the visiting corps!!!" But no, they decided that Craig and Donna now needed a place at HQ of their own, and Vic "gave" the chalet to them. Once Craiggers moved in, because they had little kids and all, they had to use more of the space themselves, and of course, they couldn't have corps breezing in and out, so, everything changed. The place became more and more of a fortress. Finally resulting in the entire wooded area being off limits to anyone but them. (so much for being good to the household)
Typical of twi, they didn't inform people about why, or apologize, or act like they had falsely advertise, promote, fund-raise, etc. Nothing. Nadda. Zip.
As for the maintenance nightmare, I know that the log-home company that provided it is still in business... did they not realize that the climate was completely different from where these logs originated? Or did the leadership of twi ignore their warnings?
where they the same builders that built the chalet in Gunnison?..they were out of Colorado. they built a log home not far from where I lived in Illinois..a bunch of us locals went and watch them build it.
Grand Lake Log Homes is who put up the main structure. But most of the finishng work was done by Way Builders (including me and dozens of others). My pay at the time was $30 a month for working 10 hour days, some Saturdays too.
My grandfather hauled some large rocks for 600+ miles for that place. I believe this was roa 79. If I recall correctly, each state brought rocks native to the area to help build a walkway or wall. Only saw the finished product from the road.
Chatty - who knows. Probably too close to burial area too. Seems like anything cool was dismantled as an "old wineskin". Remember when that was drilled in our brains in TWI2? I needed lots of wine in those days.
There wasn't enough booze even if the Pope gave of his woodlands for the pear juice Maker to come brew up on we would still not have had enough to keep us sufficiently not feeling it. <_<
I was at HQ my interim year when the kork Chalet went up. Another grifter LIE...it was for the Corps to use, not lcm. More smarm and silky smooth bs from vpw, con man of con men....
a WHOLE lot of heart and love went into it or it would have ROTTED to the ground by now....
Damn-straight......wierwille told the corps, month after month, that The Corps Chalet was for way corps use. The whole structure was built with an open concept.......big kitchen area, fireplace setting, the wrap-around upper deck, etc. All of this with way corps having a place to fellowship....and 4 "corps-tels" on the west side.
I think I remember something about veepee and Dotsie supposed to be living there in their golden years... AND that any Corps would be welcome to come and go and use it... hanging out with them... not intruding on them... kind of like when you'd go to visit your parents or grandparents...
but then my memory isn't so good these days... and either way, it was TAKEN OVER by lcm and his most imortant above any promises or corps family...
Likeaneagle,I remember when those guys were building that loghome---it was right doown the road from the way home on Dillys road...
I had thought that the spirit of the corps chalet was that any wayfaring corps that was passing through,or simply wanted to hang at hq could stay there gratis....It seemed like what actually was the case was that when way corps were called in for some sort of ministry function or meeting,then the region leaders and such got to stay there and the rest of the corps were on their own...I stayed there once,about 1982,when there was some kind of regional corpse meeting at hq. ...But there were about 30 of us,and we all slept on the floor throughout the house---I don't know who got to stay in the posh guest rooms....
I worked way builders my interum year,and Buddy C---y was called in to help coordinate wb.....I enjoyed working with him and got to be his bitch for a while...I remember working with him in one of the guest rooms,and we were nailing something up on one of the interior walls and we heard a noise coming from the adjacent room like dishes falling and breaking....We went to go see what it was and it turned out to be all the bathroom tile in the adjoining room was falling off the wall into the bathtub from the impact of our pounding :blink: ....Fortunately,with the available cheap labor,it wasn't too costly to the ministry to redo the tile again until we got it right...
So I guess the Corps Chalet is out for Corps Week and ROA next month...
Looks like I will be at the Best Western - Botkins. Unless Igotsome invites me to sojourn at the St Mary's Motel. Or maybe I can commute from FL with Ambassador 7. Or maybe stay with Simoneon in the luxurious Corps tents, basking in the open-air sauna, more blessed than I already will be...
Speaking of pick pocketting, who is in Bo Reahard's home now??
Reverend2Ts... I've already made arrangements to travel in this:
I'm thinking we can put 'em in a circle like a wagon train around a cement pond... all of my brethren and sistern are welcome to lounge about... it sure beats the '72 F150 with a camper shell...
I "had the privilage" of sleeping in the Corps chalet once during my interim year in Il. we had some kind of advance or something at HQ and where invited to sleep on the floor in the loft. I remember when king Craig came in we had to be quiet, couldn't use the bathroom because it was for the LCM family, yet we endured with full bladders and sore backs becasue we had the privilage of sleeping in such a beautiful and spiritual place - what a crock that was.
I never "had the privilage" though of working on the chalet. some of my other Corps brothers and sisters did though - cheap and good labor. I just wasn't "good Enough".
Hey,tuttle,..wouldn't it be sumthin' if we took the way limo on a joyride,and brought along Buddy Curry as our bodyguard,and went witnessing to some young waitresses at Adolph's,and told them "the Way" was the name of our rockabilly band,and brouht them to the hanger in New Bremen and told them we used Ambassador I to get to our concerts,and showed them the new and the vintage Harleys and promised to give them rides,then brought them 'home' to the corps chalet and told them it was our summer cottage,and then tried to teach them the manifestation of tongues and gifts of feelings,.....
Hey,hey,hey...stranger....whatchu got against '72 f-150's with a camper shell?...
Hey,hey,hey...stranger....whatchu got against '72 f-150's with a camper shell?...
I have anticipated this question from my brother simonzeeloaded... and the answer is 'nothing'... and I sure did appreciate it when everyone else was lying in the mudpuddles... I prefer this new and improved mode of camping at the rock!
Reading me like a book,eh?...Hey remember that big ugly brown converted bookmobile that used to show up at the Rock every year?....One year I heard VP made them move it 'cuz it didn't look best right next to the dining tents...
".........and then tried to teach them the manifestation of tongues and gifts of feelings,....."
Simon
"Buddy Curries bitch...."
I was several people's bitch on my interin year in WB, couple years before you I think. It was fun, though, because it was so pathetic. Cheap beer was my friend that year.
Bo's house? You mean the one he and his dad paid for with their own money and for which he never received a penny in reimbursement or resale or rent? Not sure. I can ask him next time I see him. He might know, but maybe not. They still hear from innies on staff, ha.
I thought I remember hearing Nik Maxsxon and his wife lived there? Not sure. Does Nik still play the great organ?
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I was still a newbie when the chalet was built and not aware of how the building of this thing was promoted.
But, when I was in-rez (late 1980s) we were given a tour of the place and told that it was originally intended to be a new residence for VPW and Dotsie. He was gonna hang out there, and let the corps hang out there and fellowship. But after he spent a very short time there he decided he HATED it. He missed his own home and decided not to move afterall. (so much for thinking things through, counting the cost, revelation, etc.)
So, now they had this big, expensive building standing empty. Most of us would say, "More room for the visiting corps!!!" But no, they decided that Craig and Donna now needed a place at HQ of their own, and Vic "gave" the chalet to them. Once Craiggers moved in, because they had little kids and all, they had to use more of the space themselves, and of course, they couldn't have corps breezing in and out, so, everything changed. The place became more and more of a fortress. Finally resulting in the entire wooded area being off limits to anyone but them. (so much for being good to the household)
Typical of twi, they didn't inform people about why, or apologize, or act like they had falsely advertise, promote, fund-raise, etc. Nothing. Nadda. Zip.
As for the maintenance nightmare, I know that the log-home company that provided it is still in business... did they not realize that the climate was completely different from where these logs originated? Or did the leadership of twi ignore their warnings?
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where they the same builders that built the chalet in Gunnison?..they were out of Colorado. they built a log home not far from where I lived in Illinois..a bunch of us locals went and watch them build it.
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Grand Lake Log Homes is who put up the main structure. But most of the finishng work was done by Way Builders (including me and dozens of others). My pay at the time was $30 a month for working 10 hour days, some Saturdays too.
Others know lots more about it.
Grand Lake Log Homes
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Wonder why they really got rid of the house of His healing presence, too close to the fortress maybe?
Oh get over yourselves, I'm merely speculating you outside eyes.
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My grandfather hauled some large rocks for 600+ miles for that place. I believe this was roa 79. If I recall correctly, each state brought rocks native to the area to help build a walkway or wall. Only saw the finished product from the road.
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Chatty - who knows. Probably too close to burial area too. Seems like anything cool was dismantled as an "old wineskin". Remember when that was drilled in our brains in TWI2? I needed lots of wine in those days.
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There wasn't enough booze even if the Pope gave of his woodlands for the pear juice Maker to come brew up on we would still not have had enough to keep us sufficiently not feeling it. <_<
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Wait! Chatty! Either you have had some good pear juice, or I have had too much in trying to read and understand your last post.
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.....the rock and stone was for the fireplace....
I was at HQ my interim year when the kork Chalet went up. Another grifter LIE...it was for the Corps to use, not lcm. More smarm and silky smooth bs from vpw, con man of con men....
a WHOLE lot of heart and love went into it or it would have ROTTED to the ground by now....
grrrrrrrrrrrr
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Damn-straight......wierwille told the corps, month after month, that The Corps Chalet was for way corps use. The whole structure was built with an open concept.......big kitchen area, fireplace setting, the wrap-around upper deck, etc. All of this with way corps having a place to fellowship....and 4 "corps-tels" on the west side.
Wierwille flat-out betrayed us......
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Yes, that is thier name..
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There was never any mention of wierwille or lcm staying there. It was all hyped as a place for the visiting corpes.
But who the heck was going to argue when wierwille siezed it for himself....when that was done....he immediatly handed it off to lcm.
There wasn`t any discussion or justifying it...they just did it.
Pretty slick ... had lcm just declared ownership for himself upon the date of completion...there would have been more of a backlash I`m thinking.
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I think I remember something about veepee and Dotsie supposed to be living there in their golden years... AND that any Corps would be welcome to come and go and use it... hanging out with them... not intruding on them... kind of like when you'd go to visit your parents or grandparents...
but then my memory isn't so good these days... and either way, it was TAKEN OVER by lcm and his most imortant above any promises or corps family...
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Likeaneagle,I remember when those guys were building that loghome---it was right doown the road from the way home on Dillys road...
I had thought that the spirit of the corps chalet was that any wayfaring corps that was passing through,or simply wanted to hang at hq could stay there gratis....It seemed like what actually was the case was that when way corps were called in for some sort of ministry function or meeting,then the region leaders and such got to stay there and the rest of the corps were on their own...I stayed there once,about 1982,when there was some kind of regional corpse meeting at hq. ...But there were about 30 of us,and we all slept on the floor throughout the house---I don't know who got to stay in the posh guest rooms....
I worked way builders my interum year,and Buddy C---y was called in to help coordinate wb.....I enjoyed working with him and got to be his bitch for a while...I remember working with him in one of the guest rooms,and we were nailing something up on one of the interior walls and we heard a noise coming from the adjacent room like dishes falling and breaking....We went to go see what it was and it turned out to be all the bathroom tile in the adjoining room was falling off the wall into the bathtub from the impact of our pounding :blink: ....Fortunately,with the available cheap labor,it wasn't too costly to the ministry to redo the tile again until we got it right...
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So I guess the Corps Chalet is out for Corps Week and ROA next month...
Looks like I will be at the Best Western - Botkins. Unless Igotsome invites me to sojourn at the St Mary's Motel. Or maybe I can commute from FL with Ambassador 7. Or maybe stay with Simoneon in the luxurious Corps tents, basking in the open-air sauna, more blessed than I already will be...
Speaking of pick pocketting, who is in Bo Reahard's home now??
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Reverend2Ts... I've already made arrangements to travel in this:
I'm thinking we can put 'em in a circle like a wagon train around a cement pond... all of my brethren and sistern are welcome to lounge about... it sure beats the '72 F150 with a camper shell...
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I "had the privilage" of sleeping in the Corps chalet once during my interim year in Il. we had some kind of advance or something at HQ and where invited to sleep on the floor in the loft. I remember when king Craig came in we had to be quiet, couldn't use the bathroom because it was for the LCM family, yet we endured with full bladders and sore backs becasue we had the privilage of sleeping in such a beautiful and spiritual place - what a crock that was.
I never "had the privilage" though of working on the chalet. some of my other Corps brothers and sisters did though - cheap and good labor. I just wasn't "good Enough".
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Hey,tuttle,..wouldn't it be sumthin' if we took the way limo on a joyride,and brought along Buddy Curry as our bodyguard,and went witnessing to some young waitresses at Adolph's,and told them "the Way" was the name of our rockabilly band,and brouht them to the hanger in New Bremen and told them we used Ambassador I to get to our concerts,and showed them the new and the vintage Harleys and promised to give them rides,then brought them 'home' to the corps chalet and told them it was our summer cottage,and then tried to teach them the manifestation of tongues and gifts of feelings,.....
Hey,hey,hey...stranger....whatchu got against '72 f-150's with a camper shell?...
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I have anticipated this question from my brother simonzeeloaded... and the answer is 'nothing'... and I sure did appreciate it when everyone else was lying in the mudpuddles... I prefer this new and improved mode of camping at the rock!
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Reading me like a book,eh?...Hey remember that big ugly brown converted bookmobile that used to show up at the Rock every year?....One year I heard VP made them move it 'cuz it didn't look best right next to the dining tents...
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way corps chalet snort snort. i got a TOUR of it once
yeah who lives in the reahard's house now ?
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It's a gift. :unsure:
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".........and then tried to teach them the manifestation of tongues and gifts of feelings,....."
Simon
"Buddy Curries bitch...."
I was several people's bitch on my interin year in WB, couple years before you I think. It was fun, though, because it was so pathetic. Cheap beer was my friend that year.
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Bo's house? You mean the one he and his dad paid for with their own money and for which he never received a penny in reimbursement or resale or rent? Not sure. I can ask him next time I see him. He might know, but maybe not. They still hear from innies on staff, ha.
I thought I remember hearing Nik Maxsxon and his wife lived there? Not sure. Does Nik still play the great organ?
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