Hmm maybe we are having conversations with the same innies! lol I have heard all those. I have even had innies be proud that they dont ABS anymore. I figure if you don't believe in a ministry enough to send them money--why in the world are you still associated with them?
The nothing else out there of course is a lie-I even told them that there are other places available.
I guess the innies like the corner they have allowed themselves to be backed into and think that it is normal. I know I didn't know any better either.
I keep praying for more eyes to be opened too. I am so thankful to be free!
I can't find a biblical perspective on "it bothers us more". Can find a lot about doing or not doing, but nothing on the topic of just being bothered more--seems to me that the will to act against the bothersome situation, whether to denounce or try to rectify it, is seriously lacking in these peoples lives.
I can't find a biblical perspective on "it bothers us more".
I think verses such as the following were part of the justification for this attitude.
Ps 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Ps 119:104
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
The idea being that if you really "eschew" evil it will offend you when ever and where ever you see it. You don't have to look to hard to find evil, but if you are looking for it you will see it every where. It will seem like the adversary is working "overtime" on you, but really you are working overtime trying to be appropriately offended.
The truely spiritual are PO-ed all the time - just like God.
my own "relative" said things that I couldn't believe I was hearing!!!!
Quote:
"see, you are searching for evil, so you found it "(regards to bad TWI press)
When telling them about the fear of leaving or we would die scenario in the 90's, I got this.....
"hahahahahah, you BELIEVED that?????"
I said, "were we in the same ministry?"
It seems that the oldtimers from way back, saw things with a "love, free spirit'' attitude. Not many liked Craig anyway, (they were ol wineskins ya know), so they just tiptoed through the tulips of Way land, all the while IGNORING Craig and just doing there own thing. :blink:
So when I tell them "our side", they don't relate. WEIRD
I, too, found some innies in my city who are of that mindset.
One ex-limb guy stated to me, "We don't involve ourselves with their (twi) sh1t.....and we don't allow them (twi) to be involved with our sh1t."
Another ex-hhc (because he bought a house) said......."I do not support the way anymore with my abs. They are moving in the wrong direction and I'm trying to stick it out until things change."
And, it seems to me........some could care less if they get kicked out. They just don't have the wherewithal to walk away on their own.
A dismal state of affairs in and around twi......for sure.
I think this mind-set comes from them being afraid themselves of not having anywhere to go. They don't believe the offshoots have anything going, and God forbid, they would NEVER go toa church. It's a sad state way-brained cultees are in. I remember when I was there myself.
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Bliss,
Hmm maybe we are having conversations with the same innies! lol I have heard all those. I have even had innies be proud that they dont ABS anymore. I figure if you don't believe in a ministry enough to send them money--why in the world are you still associated with them?
The nothing else out there of course is a lie-I even told them that there are other places available.
I guess the innies like the corner they have allowed themselves to be backed into and think that it is normal. I know I didn't know any better either.
I keep praying for more eyes to be opened too. I am so thankful to be free!
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Sounds like your friends need "a checkup from the neckup". They seem to be lacking "an attitude of gratitude".
Maybe TWI needs to dust off the old Renewed Mind class and run it for the old grads.
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I can't find a biblical perspective on "it bothers us more". Can find a lot about doing or not doing, but nothing on the topic of just being bothered more--seems to me that the will to act against the bothersome situation, whether to denounce or try to rectify it, is seriously lacking in these peoples lives.
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I think verses such as the following were part of the justification for this attitude.
The idea being that if you really "eschew" evil it will offend you when ever and where ever you see it. You don't have to look to hard to find evil, but if you are looking for it you will see it every where. It will seem like the adversary is working "overtime" on you, but really you are working overtime trying to be appropriately offended.
The truely spiritual are PO-ed all the time - just like God.
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"appropriately offended" I like that.
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to top it all OFF................
my own "relative" said things that I couldn't believe I was hearing!!!!
Quote:
"see, you are searching for evil, so you found it "(regards to bad TWI press)
When telling them about the fear of leaving or we would die scenario in the 90's, I got this.....
"hahahahahah, you BELIEVED that?????"
I said, "were we in the same ministry?"
It seems that the oldtimers from way back, saw things with a "love, free spirit'' attitude. Not many liked Craig anyway, (they were ol wineskins ya know), so they just tiptoed through the tulips of Way land, all the while IGNORING Craig and just doing there own thing. :blink:
So when I tell them "our side", they don't relate. WEIRD
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" so they just tiptoed through the tulips of Way land, all the while IGNORING Craig and just doing there own thing"
You said a mouthful there!
One of the most astonishing things I discovered once I was out (physically) was that not many people I knew actually followed in twi.
Those of us who did, well...what happened is here on these boards.
So...maybe...just maybe...the key to staying in twi is to IGNORE twi.
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They are doing just that right now Coolwaters!!!!!!
Staying and ignoring.
What a way to live!
I’m free, yeah, oh, I have been forgiven
God's love has taken off my chains, and given me these wings
And I am free, yeah, yeah and the freedom I've been given
Is something that not even death can take away from me
Because I'm free
Jesus set me free
Steven Curtis Chapman
i am free, and no longer in bondage. Thankyou LORD!
Add another TWI "generation" to the list..............
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Yep........."staying and ignoring."
I, too, found some innies in my city who are of that mindset.
One ex-limb guy stated to me, "We don't involve ourselves with their (twi) sh1t.....and we don't allow them (twi) to be involved with our sh1t."
Another ex-hhc (because he bought a house) said......."I do not support the way anymore with my abs. They are moving in the wrong direction and I'm trying to stick it out until things change."
And, it seems to me........some could care less if they get kicked out. They just don't have the wherewithal to walk away on their own.
A dismal state of affairs in and around twi......for sure.
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Today, Jesus is alright with me!
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