Thank you so much for sharing that. I also believe its important to spay/neuter. I worked with a rescue group last year that dealt with a lot of puppies being born over and over again and the owners just not caring. They were even offered a huge discount to get them done but they didn't care. Shelters are a wonderful place to adopt a dog.
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quote:Over 90,000 dogs and cats are killed every year in Atlanta area shelters. It is a problem of epidemic proportions. More pets are killed in Atlanta area shelters than in the entire country of Great Britain, New York City or the states of Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Oregon or Washington. Most of the pets that enter Atlanta shelters are family pets that have become lost or have strayed from home, but without an ID tag the shelters have no way of identifying them. Please help us help the homeless pets and prevent more from becoming homeless by spaying and neutering all of your pets, by keeping an ID tag on your pets 24/7, by adopting rather than buying a pet and by making a commitment to keep your pet for its entire lifetime.
Here I see homeless animals almost daily and have rescued 5 dogs in the past 9 years. We have all 5. I have helped with a rescue group and these women (mostly) have up to 17 dogs they are taking care of and trying to place. Now, all kinds of counties are cracking down on "too many pets" and passing laws. Yes, there are collectors who are SICK people and they do not feed or care for the pets they are taking in. BUT there are groups dedicated to finding dogs NEW homes and these folks should not be hindered (as long as it is not effecting the neighbors.) IMO
my town passed a law that no home owner can have more than two dogs.
before you flip let me tell you it is a two mile community and give you an example of the trouble too many dogs in such a small town can cause.
My neighnor had german shepards in a cage in the back yard 4 of them and two small dogs in the house, then the bitch had nine puppies. ok in this town every home can hear the fire siren the siren also goes off for ambulance calls.
these dogs would bark at the sirens now think about it they would on top of their lungs bark and scream at all hours . It was a nightmare for the other houses living three or four feet away. I lived the next street over and they would wake me up in the night if a police car went by their house.
they are one reason why we zoned for two animals per house hold.
I have two cats they are both house babies and they are both fixed . I didnt have to get them both fixed but I think they make a better pet .
I had a cat that when ever she went into heat she wouldnt leave my son alone she would sit on him and whine and cry it was funny, but I tend to think they may be healthier if they are fixed or at least less likely to run away if they do get out. It made my male fat tho.
Rottie? There is nothing wrong with not being able to look at something unpleasant. You are not in denial; you know what is there. Some of our best volunteers will not come to the building, ever. They can?t. They don?t want to hear about it. They don?t ask questions. That is how they protect their heart. They know their limits; they accept them and they do what they can. Those of us who have chosen to work at the shelter are no more or less caring then they are. We each decide our roll and do our part. Some people making it better, some people through their ignorance and apathy making it worse. I really admire you. You are neither ignorant nor apathetic.
Dot, I had no idea that many animals went through shelters in the Atlanta area! We deal with about 12,000 animals annually, which is down from the 23,000 in the mid-nineties. Our shelter can hold between 400 and 450 at a time. That includes strays, bite cases, cruelty cases, and adoptables. About 140 animals are up for adoption all the time. What is sad is, for example, a few weekends ago we had 50 dogs processed. That meant that fifty cages had to be emptied so they could be filled and it is the adoptables that must give up their space. It is such a sick cycle.
I don?t know what we would do with out the rescue groups, like you were involved with Vickles. For every animal taken in by rescue, whether it is all breed rescue or specific breed rescue, that is one less we see. The key is making sure they are spayed/neutered or the problem is perpetuated.
No-kill shelters are a big help to our area as well. Although some do .... me off by portraying us as the killers and themselves as the true animal lovers. God, people are so twisted and ignorant. But let them be self-righteous if it saves even one.
We have a pet limit in New Orleans. You are limited to four. It was really designed to fight against the dog-fighters and their mass production of pits. Plus, situations like you mentioned, MJ. We have a family down the street from my house that has caused me to fanaticize about a No-pet ordinance! They started bringing their three in at night and my neighborhood is peaceful once again. Not everyone is willing to look for a solution and then it is the responsible pet owners and rescue groups who suffer.
Thank you for your replies Vic, Rottie, Dot and MJ. I really see a day when all this madness will end. Thank you for being part of the solution!
Now for all you guys who ?feel? for your dog. CUT THEM OFF! You are not going to bleed. You?re not even going to be less of a man! Maybe you can?t see it now, but try it, you?ll see. I guarantee it! ;)-->
Jesse, I sure appreciate those of you who take care of the animals in shelters-- I really didn't know how hard the work was, but I do know it would be hard to deal with the euthanasia room.
We still haven't decided what we are gonna do with our Kelly-kitty who is peeing everywhere. It is so hard to get rid of her-- we definately will NOT send her to a no-kill. When I saw the lady we got her from, (She works at a local convenience store), I told her about the delemma with Kelly. She offered me one of Kelly's sister's kittens.
The woman still has the mother, who has had at least two litters since I adopted Kelly, and she couldn't find an owner for one of Kelly's sisters, and now that kitty is having kittens! I was a bit angry with her-- SHEESH! she is complaining about all the kittens, but won't fix her cats! And part of my Kelly's problem is cuz the lady begged me to take Kelly when she was 6 weeks old--against my better jugdement, but she had a 10 month old Rottie pup at the time and she was afraid the pup would hurt the kittens. Looking back, I should have taken my chances and let Kelly be with her mommacat a bit longer :(-->
I couldn't answer the lady with all her kittens, though-- I wanted to scream at her to get them fixed!!
You brought up an interesting point ? getting a puppy or kitten to young. Some of the behavior information I have read says that between ages of 5 and 8 weeks is one of the most important developmental stages of the animal. That is when they learn from the mom all about being the animals they are. They learn etiquette like bite inhibition and animal body language.
I did an informal survey at the dog park asking the problem child?s owner when they got their pet. Interestingly, I learned that most of the dog?s that would lash out without the typical canine posturing or the dogs that played to rough hurting other dog?s, had been raised without the benefit of an older larger dog to teach them this behavior was not ok. Not all of them, but enough to take notice.
I imagine cats learn about the ?only one location? by the smells the mother leaves around, Remove the mother and the kitten is left to their own devices, so to speak. Plus there is the whole dominance issue. Who better to teach the young about order than a responsible adult?
Psalmie, for what it?s worth, whatever you decide about Kelly, I support you in the decision.
BTW, why is it some breeders think that if there is a problem, getting a new animal will make it all better? :(-->
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Thank you so much for sharing that. I also believe its important to spay/neuter. I worked with a rescue group last year that dealt with a lot of puppies being born over and over again and the owners just not caring. They were even offered a huge discount to get them done but they didn't care. Shelters are a wonderful place to adopt a dog.
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How awful it is!
I keep this at our shop:
Here I see homeless animals almost daily and have rescued 5 dogs in the past 9 years. We have all 5. I have helped with a rescue group and these women (mostly) have up to 17 dogs they are taking care of and trying to place. Now, all kinds of counties are cracking down on "too many pets" and passing laws. Yes, there are collectors who are SICK people and they do not feed or care for the pets they are taking in. BUT there are groups dedicated to finding dogs NEW homes and these folks should not be hindered (as long as it is not effecting the neighbors.) IMO
It is so sad.
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I'm NOT ignoring this thread, I just can't read it, I just can't read it. It's too heartbreaking for me to contemplate.
Yes I am a big advocate of spaying and nuetering. I will go back and read this when I feel I can stomache it.
...Ain't no grave, gonna hold this body down..when I hear that trumpet sound...
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my town passed a law that no home owner can have more than two dogs.
before you flip let me tell you it is a two mile community and give you an example of the trouble too many dogs in such a small town can cause.
My neighnor had german shepards in a cage in the back yard 4 of them and two small dogs in the house, then the bitch had nine puppies. ok in this town every home can hear the fire siren the siren also goes off for ambulance calls.
these dogs would bark at the sirens now think about it they would on top of their lungs bark and scream at all hours . It was a nightmare for the other houses living three or four feet away. I lived the next street over and they would wake me up in the night if a police car went by their house.
they are one reason why we zoned for two animals per house hold.
I have two cats they are both house babies and they are both fixed . I didnt have to get them both fixed but I think they make a better pet .
I had a cat that when ever she went into heat she wouldnt leave my son alone she would sit on him and whine and cry it was funny, but I tend to think they may be healthier if they are fixed or at least less likely to run away if they do get out. It made my male fat tho.
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Rottie? There is nothing wrong with not being able to look at something unpleasant. You are not in denial; you know what is there. Some of our best volunteers will not come to the building, ever. They can?t. They don?t want to hear about it. They don?t ask questions. That is how they protect their heart. They know their limits; they accept them and they do what they can. Those of us who have chosen to work at the shelter are no more or less caring then they are. We each decide our roll and do our part. Some people making it better, some people through their ignorance and apathy making it worse. I really admire you. You are neither ignorant nor apathetic.
Dot, I had no idea that many animals went through shelters in the Atlanta area! We deal with about 12,000 animals annually, which is down from the 23,000 in the mid-nineties. Our shelter can hold between 400 and 450 at a time. That includes strays, bite cases, cruelty cases, and adoptables. About 140 animals are up for adoption all the time. What is sad is, for example, a few weekends ago we had 50 dogs processed. That meant that fifty cages had to be emptied so they could be filled and it is the adoptables that must give up their space. It is such a sick cycle.
I don?t know what we would do with out the rescue groups, like you were involved with Vickles. For every animal taken in by rescue, whether it is all breed rescue or specific breed rescue, that is one less we see. The key is making sure they are spayed/neutered or the problem is perpetuated.
No-kill shelters are a big help to our area as well. Although some do .... me off by portraying us as the killers and themselves as the true animal lovers. God, people are so twisted and ignorant. But let them be self-righteous if it saves even one.
We have a pet limit in New Orleans. You are limited to four. It was really designed to fight against the dog-fighters and their mass production of pits. Plus, situations like you mentioned, MJ. We have a family down the street from my house that has caused me to fanaticize about a No-pet ordinance! They started bringing their three in at night and my neighborhood is peaceful once again. Not everyone is willing to look for a solution and then it is the responsible pet owners and rescue groups who suffer.
Thank you for your replies Vic, Rottie, Dot and MJ. I really see a day when all this madness will end. Thank you for being part of the solution!
Now for all you guys who ?feel? for your dog. CUT THEM OFF! You are not going to bleed. You?re not even going to be less of a man! Maybe you can?t see it now, but try it, you?ll see. I guarantee it! ;)-->
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Jesse, I sure appreciate those of you who take care of the animals in shelters-- I really didn't know how hard the work was, but I do know it would be hard to deal with the euthanasia room.
We still haven't decided what we are gonna do with our Kelly-kitty who is peeing everywhere. It is so hard to get rid of her-- we definately will NOT send her to a no-kill. When I saw the lady we got her from, (She works at a local convenience store), I told her about the delemma with Kelly. She offered me one of Kelly's sister's kittens.
The woman still has the mother, who has had at least two litters since I adopted Kelly, and she couldn't find an owner for one of Kelly's sisters, and now that kitty is having kittens! I was a bit angry with her-- SHEESH! she is complaining about all the kittens, but won't fix her cats! And part of my Kelly's problem is cuz the lady begged me to take Kelly when she was 6 weeks old--against my better jugdement, but she had a 10 month old Rottie pup at the time and she was afraid the pup would hurt the kittens. Looking back, I should have taken my chances and let Kelly be with her mommacat a bit longer :(-->
I couldn't answer the lady with all her kittens, though-- I wanted to scream at her to get them fixed!!
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Psalmie, I see you got some computer time. :)-->
You brought up an interesting point ? getting a puppy or kitten to young. Some of the behavior information I have read says that between ages of 5 and 8 weeks is one of the most important developmental stages of the animal. That is when they learn from the mom all about being the animals they are. They learn etiquette like bite inhibition and animal body language.
I did an informal survey at the dog park asking the problem child?s owner when they got their pet. Interestingly, I learned that most of the dog?s that would lash out without the typical canine posturing or the dogs that played to rough hurting other dog?s, had been raised without the benefit of an older larger dog to teach them this behavior was not ok. Not all of them, but enough to take notice.
I imagine cats learn about the ?only one location? by the smells the mother leaves around, Remove the mother and the kitten is left to their own devices, so to speak. Plus there is the whole dominance issue. Who better to teach the young about order than a responsible adult?
Psalmie, for what it?s worth, whatever you decide about Kelly, I support you in the decision.
BTW, why is it some breeders think that if there is a problem, getting a new animal will make it all better? :(-->
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