Apostle or Lord Wierwille

[ckmkeon]

When we are looking at another thread we see that people are deciding that Dr.Wierwille is or is not a apostle, but my opinion is that if we look at the definition of lord and of apostle in the dictionary we shall find out which is tue.

Lord-

3. powerful man: a man who has considerable power, authority, or influence over others, e.g. a business tycoon

4. master: a master, ruler, or head of a household, or a woman's husband regarded as her master (archaic)

Now if we look at the 4th definition of Lord it shows us Master, when Dr.Wierwille was around he would have been the master of the teachings. Now let us look at the 3rd where it says the man has a influence over others.

Now I know and you should to that he had a pretty large following. So if he is not a apostle, which the meaning is

Apostle-

1.promoter of idea or cause: somebody who tries to persuade others to share an idea or cause

an apostle of free trade

2. prominent Christian missionary: a prominent Christian missionary, especially one who is responsible for first converting a people

So Dr.Wierwille's title should be Lord Dr.Wierwille an apostle. These two different definitions show that both of them apply to him.

CK

Edited May 30, 2006 by Shellon Fockler-North

[GT]

A better fitting title.

PERVERT:

* corrupt: corrupt morally or by intemperance or sensuality; "debauch the young people with wine and women"; "Socrates was accused of corrupting young men"; "Do school counselors subvert young children?"; "corrupt the morals"

* twist: practice sophistry; change the meaning of or be vague about in order to mislead or deceive; "Don't twist my words"

* a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior

* change the inherent purpose or function of something; "Don't abuse the system"; "The director of the factory misused the funds intended for the health care of his workers"

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* One who receives sexual gratification from kinky sex acts

www.panteraconsulting.com/sexual_words_3.htm

Fits like a hand in a glove and with a scientific precision.

[Oakspear]

CK:

Do you know what "archaic" means?

Do you really think that Wierwille himself would have wanted to be called "lord"? Go ask your dad

[outofdafog]

Perhaps Queen Elizabeth could "knight" him also. Maybe we could get the US Government to put his face on a stamp too! His face could be on the $3.00 bill. The schools could teach about him being "Our Father in the Word" instead of teaching that crap about George Washington being the "Father of our Country". God the possibilities are endless.............

[Raf]

stupid: (adj) the things stupid people does and says.

(definition taken from Gump's First World Dictionary).

[George Aar]

OH Ck,

Don't ever stop posting, O.K.?

That just brightened my whole day, HAH!

[GrouchoMarxJr]

Lord Dr. Wierwille an apostle...

As I read these words, coffee spewed out of my nose and tears flowed down my cheeks.

ck...I concur with George. Please continue posting...I haven't laughed this hard since the Lewis Black HBO special...

[Raf]

Ooh, here's another dictionary definition:

idolatry (noun):

When we are looking at another thread we see that people are deciding that Dr.Wierwille is or is not a apostle, but my opinion is that if we look at the definition of lord and of apostle in the dictionary we shall find out which is tue.

Lord-

3. powerful man: a man who has considerable power, authority, or influence over others, e.g. a business tycoon

4. master: a master, ruler, or head of a household, or a woman's husband regarded as her master (archaic)

Now if we look at the 4th definition of Lord it shows us Master, when Dr.Wierwille was around he would have been the master of the teachings. Now let us look at the 3rd where it says the man has a influence over others.

Now I know and you should to that he had a pretty large following. So if he is not a apostle, which the meaning is

Apostle-

1.promoter of idea or cause: somebody who tries to persuade others to share an idea or cause

an apostle of free trade

2. prominent Christian missionary: a prominent Christian missionary, especially one who is responsible for first converting a people

So Dr.Wierwille's title should be Lord Dr.Wierwille an apostle. These two different definitions show that both of them apply to him.

CK

Fascinating, what you can learn in a dictionary.

[penguin]

I think Dr's teachings led us (especially in the 90's and beyond) to let twit leader.... take the place of who our Lord really SHOULD be. Every decision and behavior was supposed to be sanctioned by them --effectively making them our lord and leading us into idolatry.

[dmiller]

[What The Hey]

Lord Wierwille???

Sounds as if yo' be talking again about that thar guy with the cold yellow eyes and the red-hot lightsaber.

[rascal]

Darth wierwille? Darth Prophet? Darth teacher?

Darth MOG!!!!!! It DOES have a certain ring to it :blink:

[ckmkeon]

stupid: (adj) the things stupid people does and says.

(definition taken from Gump's First World Dictionary).

CK

Edited May 31, 2006 by ckmkeon

[year2027]

God first

Beloved CK

God loves you my dear friend

So by your definition John Lynn, Dale Sides, Chris Greer, and others are Lords and Apostles too

Why could they not get alone with VPW then

I just to not understand so many Lord's but my bible told me to have only one Lord and savior

But we in the Way had many Lords

CK what he was does not matter he no longer here please move and let us see what a good teacher you are

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Edited May 30, 2006 by year2027

[Raf]

Well the definition supports both of the statements, but go ahead make your point known. While you website does enough of that the BS of that is "stupid". The only thing you opinion is good for is the trash can because you are bias toward your website. That is my opinion. So stick it where the sun don't shine,

The opinion is not putting him (Dr.wierwille) like the Lord Jesus Christ but as Lord Cornwallis the analogy is simple what I am saying is he was a master in what he taught. That is what I am saying.

CK

Yeah, my website is stupid, ck. I agree. You're right. How could I not have seen it sooner?

If you'd like to stick your opinion where the sun doesn't shine, who am I to argue with you?

So, when the Bible says that TO US there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, you have a problem with that, don't you, because you want Wierwille as your Lord, too, right?

No man can serve two masters, ck. You clearly love the one, and thus demonstrate that you hate the other.

Edited May 30, 2006 by Raf

[Goey]

When we are looking at another thread we see that people are deciding that Dr.Wierwille is or is not a apostle, but my opinion is that if we look at the definition of lord and of apostle in the dictionary we shall find out which is tue.

Lord-

3. powerful man: a man who has considerable power, authority, or influence over others, e.g. a business tycoon

4. master: a master, ruler, or head of a household, or a woman's husband regarded as her master (archaic)

Now if we look at the 4th definition of Lord it shows us Master, when Dr.Wierwille was around he would have been the master of the teachings. Now let us look at the 3rd where it says the man has a influence over others.

Now I know and you should to that he had a pretty large following. So if he is not a apostle, which the meaning is

Apostle-

1.promoter of idea or cause: somebody who tries to persuade others to share an idea or cause

an apostle of free trade

2. prominent Christian missionary: a prominent Christian missionary, especially one who is responsible for first converting a people

So Dr.Wierwille's title should be Lord Dr.Wierwille an apostle. These two different definitions show that both of them apply to him.

CK

How silly.

The definition above for "Lord" could be applied to nearly anyone who was in a position of authority. Employers, coaches, cops, drug lords, etc. Problem here is that "Lord" is an archaic term and it pretty much limited to British aristocracy. It is not a title we use today with the exceptions of refering to God or Christ, or in regards to drug "lords". Catholics may use it, but I am not sure there.

In regards to apostle (#1). Mr. Wierewille was not a "prominent Christian missionary". He was not prominent in Christian circles nor with the general populace. His "prominence" was relegated to his own small following. Therefore only #2 could possibly apply.

"Apostle" (#2) from above could apply to anyone with an idea or cause that is being promoted. - like the latest illegal designer drug, or a new fangled weight loss program.

So what does this do for Mr. Wiereille?

In regards "lord" that puts him in the same category as any drug lord or mafia boss. In regards to apostle, in the same category, as any snake oil salesman.

CK, why not just call him God?

[Raf]

Because that would be silly, Goey.

[Shellon]

Apostle or Lord Wierwille

:blink: ROFL hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee

GASP oh my GOD! Raspberry Mocha Coffee on the screen funny.

ROFL

ahhhhhhhhhh

LOLOLOL

sigh

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oh and.......ck, it shows your original post was edited by me. It wasn't, my apologies, I hit the wrong button.

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LOLOL ohhhhhh my

[Abigail]

well Shell, all that laughter makes it hard to see the keyboard, so who can blame you.

roflmao

CK - you sure keep things entertaining, thanks for sharing.

[sogwap51]

He was just a "MAN"...he probably could have been more....but pride came in...and as we all know.......Pride comes before a fall.

[ckmkeon]

Greasy Tech has me on close observation

CK

Edited May 31, 2006 by ckmkeon

[socks]

I vote for "lord". It has a nice ring to it. You can give it that hissy tone, as in "Oh! Yes, My Lo-ahd", or that deep echoey sound ... " My Lord...AND MASTER!!!"

[dmiller]

Sure -- docvic was *lord* *throughly* of the *shambles*.

If you're going to use the archaic definitiions, use them all. :unsure:

[ckmkeon]

Well the "man" is watching me here, that would be greasytech, They have me on the watch list. Soon I will be on the mark and avoid. Does this sound familiar, How do you know *Greasytech) that I didn't have the consent of the maker of the quote. So I will be watched closer just like the Gestapo.

CK

Edited May 31, 2006 by ckmkeon

[dmiller]

Well

Deep subject, for shallow minds. ;)