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Nevermind, this appears to be a woman prior to Scientology's takeover of CAN. I will just leave this here anyway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network

Considering the Cult Awareness Network was hostilely taken over, and is now run by the Cult of Scientology, I don't much listen to anything that comes from them. Even if they are right about TWI, the hypocrisy is way to thick.

There are several actually. Why We Protest is the biggest. Anonymous is out there killing them. Perhaps Anonymous should get involved with TWI? As bad as Scientology is, Anonymous would probably handle TWI and put them out of business pretty quickly.

Rob and Denise went WOW to Bloominton/Normal Illinois in 94/95. I was in the Peoria Twig, which was later disolved. Rob and Denise had stayed to run the Bloomington Twig and we joined with them. Not much longer after that, Chr**tp*er and Je**ica W*lson was married and re-assigned to Bloomington, but Rob and Denise stayed there. I moved to Chicago in 97 and I know they were still there in 98. I did a people search and it had them still in Il. in 2001. After that, I dunno.

I went to my church on and off for a year before I settled in. It takes a bit of determination to believe God will show you where to go after the Way. But a few well placed sermons that hit exactly on my issue and answered the exact questions I was asking God, and poof, I now have an awesome church home. I have been delivered of some HUGE things in my life so far since making my stand. My church is as far away from legalistic and authoritarian as you can get. It is a Southern Baptist based church. If I thought a year ago that the things that are happening to me would, I would have not messed around so long. But God has to show you some things first. And beleive me he will. You have to keep your faith in him, even if you have no faith in what you learned at the Way. Dump it. All of it, books and all that garbage. Do not allow anyone to tell you what to do. Allow God to show you where to go. It is imperative that you do not listen to any of us tell you where you should and should not go. Listen to God, I suspect by your question that is already there on your heart. It is ok to still listen to what God is telling you. He does speak to us outside of the Way. You are not perfect and do not need the perfect church. You need a place that you can hear God speaking to you clearly. He will show you. It does not matter which church! ex10 found hers, I found mine. You may have found yours! You need to be part of the Body. As long as you are separated from the body, you are not doing God any good. Allow yourself to be a part of a Body. Allow people to help you, allow yourself to help others. Don't be a severed hand. That is reality that hit me one day. I hope it helps.

Hey y'all. I thought I would let you know about a free email system. It is run by liveprayer.com. Called LP email. http://www.lpemail.com/ It is spam free, except they will send you Pastor Kellers Daily Devotional. He isn't too bad either. He is on the internet on live feed every night at 1am EST. He is also on TV here in Tampa on UPN. Pretty interesting guy. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

The church that I am in has more to offer than TWI ever did. At first I was skeptical. But God is forever fighting fo our hearts. Every bible study I have been to, has done nothing but HEAL my wounds, from being in TWI, to even healing other wounds in my life. Every sermon, and every bible study I have walked into, I have walked out feeling that God himself was there and talking to me. Listen to God. Not with your Way-brain, but with the heart that God gave you. There is no way you can deny that he wants the best for you. And TWI is no longer going to do it. They have tripped and fallen flat on their face. The embarrassment they have is contempt for the people that tripped them. They are not humble enough to release what they know they should. But I forgive them. Why? Because God says I should. He told me personally. I forgive, and God will help me heal that wound. So tell your husband that the alternative of being in the Way, is a better life and a greater understanding of God. Some people here will have a longer time to heal their wounds. Wounds run DEEP. You have an opportunity, to stitch your wounds as you leave, and not let it get deeper down the road. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Teknon, There is absolutely no need to say sorry. If anything, I am sorry, sorry that you are still with TWI. Things may have calmed down, and they probably will for a while. Their reputation has been damaged to a brink. They are going to keep the damage control up for a while. Martindale did before he launched his tyracy. You will no doubt be allowed to "get away" with things for now. But look at what a lot of us are saying. TWI was, has and still is a CULT. It has been deemed that by every CULT study ever done. Some people now out are some of the leading Cult authorities on the internet. www.excultworld.com is one example. I can tell you, I feel like I have been in a Cult, not because I read any books, but because it has taken me 6 years to recover from TWI. Times of wondering if I left the elite spot, or if the splinters are now the elite spot, or if it was all just a bunch of BS. What God told me, through his word, is that what Wierwille/Martindale taught, 90% right, 10% wrong. That 10% wrong throws the whole thing out the window. I am now in a church that I am comfortable with and now believe what Gods word really says, instead of relying on what TWI said it said in past translations. I do hope that before TWI thinks things are better and tightens its grip on followers once again, that you and your family can make the concious decision to walk away. I will tell you, that it will take a while to recover from it, but your life will improve, God will not walk away from you, infact he will try as hard as he can to show you which way to go. Just don't stop trusting in him or listening for him. There are now so many times in the past that he told me which way to go, but I was not paying attention. I had just chose to turn away for a time. Read these forums closely Teknon. Understand what people are saying about TWI. We were all there. Some have seen it first had, some have felt it first hand, and some got out before it happened to them. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Hmm, somethin tells me that Captin Jack would have loved the Gasparilla Invasion and parade today in Tampa. :D--> "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

I'm sure they have hoarded enough money that some of our ABS we paid in, is still in there earning interest somewhere. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Umm, nothing. But I will wave at him as I go by. ;)--> "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Current temp in St. Pete. Updated 6 PM ET (23Z) 2/5/2004 Broken Clouds 54 % 78 °F SE 9 mph Heh heh, sorry I had to do it. It hit 83 here today. Thursday: Lots of sunshine. Warm. High 81F. Winds SE at 10 to 20 mph. Oops, I did it again. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Ok, then it probably was only supposed to be aired once. Funny though........and now I am getting irritated about it.......I mean regardless, the production Co. would have to trim off some of the money that TWI paid if they didn't run the agreed amount of times. This to me is them making themselves sound better by saying, "We will never run it again." if they didn't intend to anyway. Something is just odd with their statement. I'll bet, for $29,000 that it was only intended to run once. That seems like the going rate for one produced commercial put on a major cable channel for 2 minutes. Think about it. 2 minutes is a long time in the media. What I want is a retraction, not a "Sorry, we will never run it again. We're spirit-filled!" They supported a Cult. A dangerous Cult, called by many. They put Terry Bradshaws reputation at stake, as well as MSNBC. They dam well better do something, to correct it. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

Well if they said they were going to STOP running it, then with it being the pick of the week, and yesterday being Wednesday, then probably we can expect it has run since Monday. I shudder to think how many people decided to contact them, out of those three days. But since only one of us here at G-spot saw it, then maybe not many people did. They are obviously going for the older demographics though, because that is what the Imus demos are. That and older corprate type demos. Which makes sense. They want WEALTHY people to become followers. I hate that word "followers." Greedy little beady-eyed bast......umm anyway. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!

I'm not so sure Imus has anything to do with that commercial. It is during his two minute break and a spot that MSNBC chose to run it. I would doubt he even pays attention to it. I know a few radio jocks, and he is likely ignoring what is on, and setting up for his next set after the commercial. Contacting MSNBC would be proper, but yet again, the producer has promised to yank the commercial. So there isn't action they will need to take either. What needs to be done, is put together a documentary, or commercial explaining what the Way is. Show them in the light that they are and deserve. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"..........but hey, I love to see a good Clothesline once in a while!