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Jonny... NO...that was the thing... our lovely C*nthia what NOT...I repeat...she was NOT my TC ... M*rk K*lso was. He was a sweetie and we got along just fine. C*nthia just seemed to make it her business to meddle in mine for some unknown reason. That hike nearly parished me as well. Don't remember anyone collapsing...but I remember when we reached the top, someone did a whole hour teaching while we were there. I slept through the whole thing. I then I remember running down the mountain because they didn't want us to be walking down the mountain in the dark. So we ran and ran and ran. I'm not sure if you are talking about the 'skree' they called it when you wrote about the bolder falling on Connie. But I certainly remember running across this 'skree' which were flat bolders lying on the face of a mountain. The mountain had a very sharp grade and if you slipped you could easily start a bolder avalanche. These rocks went for ever.. and here we were running across them. I then remember arriving back at camp, having to start supper in the dark. I took off my boots and there were blisters the size of a dollar coin..no lie. I had never seen a blister that size before. I loved my lead experience. --> The hitchhiking experience...now that's another story for another thread.

Vickles, Your lead experience made mine look like a walk in the part in ways. I'm sorry those bastards did such a thing to you. They have certainly shown their true colours in these testimonials.

HCW, I would have to agree with Sister EXCIE here. It was always the "WHO YOU KNEW" mentality. That mentality was rampant in TWI. That's the way the 'system' was set up. And I was under some delusion that TWI really cared about me and the fact that really loved God that that really mattered to them. How I was wrong.

Lingo LEAD Bro', I went LEAD with you --> You and that harmonica of yours. You played that thing MERRILY as I barely crawled to the top of that mountain that morning. And that witch (C*nth*a R*ll*r)who was one of the LEAD leaders. She had a hate on for me something fierce. Whenever I saw her at ROAs and such afterwards, she would never speak to me nor look in my direction. LEAD was one of the worse experiences of my life due to the hardness of those people. I remember hitchhiking all day...being the first groups to arrive and thinking...wow...we'll get a moment to rest. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....(this reminds me of HCW's story from the other thread, how they had him and others sanding a deck at the lodge after that horrendous accident)... When they picked us up after being awake all night, they gave us shovels and hoes and said, "Go dig our garden." I COULDN'T BELIEVE THEY'D DO THAT TO PEOPLE. Where the hell where they raised...in a freghen barn? lingo...by the way...I LOVED your harmonica playing...I was just not in the mood. But your playing reminded me that there were decent humans on this planet...you were one of them.

Merci J :D--> And, we work very hard at it I'll have you know!!

HCW, Thank you for your reply. Yes, it is amazing when we look back at their actions (or lack of them ie: LCM not even eating breakfast with you injured souls) how that speaks volumes of their true callousness and despicable ways. There are no words in my vocabularies (speaking two languages) that expresses what those people were all about. NO words. I loved Dorothy's quote you wrote. Thank you. As I read your posts about your previous LEAD experience, I suddenly realized why LEAD was so difficult for me in every way. I now suffer from asthma (not severe...but I have to keep on top of it) and I know now that it was undiagnosed for a long time. I know I suffered from it while I was in the Corps...but never told anyone. When I jogged my lungs would hurt so much, they would burn and burn and burn. When I went LEAD, it was so difficult for me that I decided that I never wanted to bear children. Having been told that bearing children would be one of the most challenging things physically a woman would probably do, I figured if it was any more difficult than LEAD, I did not want to have children. It left me afraid. Tho', I am proud to say I have 3 lovely daughters, each of which were long and lengthy labours...yet I survived because I was surrounded by people would loved me and cared for me. What a switch. EXCIE, Ya, I wondered that too. -->

I suppose I should just add this. On my appraisal I was accused of lying. I had no idea what they ment by this especially since it was never mentioned to me while I was at LEAD. The first I heard of it was when JAL read it to me. I told him I had no clue what they were talking about. He didn't believe me. He believed them. The lie was this...That I had told one of the coordinators that I needed to go pee, but that the real reason I had said this was because I just wanted to rest. WHAT AN INSANE FACTORY THAT PLACE WAS!!!!! TONTO, OH, but we could pray around the clock when it was something regarding the BOTs and their health. I'm getting angrier by the post..

The only recollection I have of any Bull riding School stories is this. The guy I sat next to on Corps Nights (since we had to sit alphabetically)told me that when he went...the person who rode right before him handed him the saddle. I guess this was bronco riding (not bull) and he told me the saddle was soaked in urine. Yippee. -->

Correct spelling for "friggin" is FREGHEN.(that's Ala's version of course) Just thought you would like to know.

HCW, I've scrolled up and down these last few pages and I'm not sure if you had a chance to answer my earlier question. My question was this. When LCM showed up at the lodge the days following the accident did he ask anyone at that table that morning how they were? I know you said he sat down with the guy who had been flown outta the truck and landed on his feet, but did LCM ask anyone there at that table...How is everyone? How is everyone feeling? How are you doing? Anything like that? I think I know the answer to my questions just wanted to have it confirmed. Thanks. OOPs, forgot to mention this. You talked about your lead appraisal and your clean thingy. John Lynn called me in as well to talk about my lead appraisal. He said, "This is the worse lead appraisal I have ever seen." Yup, I made LEAD Guinness Book of records...a feat not easily achieved! :D-->

HCW, Did you end up going LOA? And if so, did you return to finish with the 12th corpse? Did you ever find out about those who were hospitalized when the accident happened? Where their injuries as severe as yours?

Shell, When I saw Tom post your birthdate I smirked... You and me is almost twins girl...I'm 6/2/60 how cool...I feel a bond :D-->

HCW, No...please go on ... this is what people need to read...especially those who still worship that place called TWI. I'm praying this is liberating and healing for you.

HCW, Did I read this correctly? I don't recall you saying that LCM asked if anyone was ok when he sat down with you guys in the morning in Tinnie? Am I right?

OHHHHHHHHHH.... Paddy Heron...why didn't you say so in the first place... I know him!

Happy Birthday Shellers!!! You 'OLD' girl you :D--> 60...WOW...that's why you're so much MORE mature than me! :P-->

HCW, Welcome the the Healing House of Greasespot. It's an amazing process isn't it once you start to unload. Healthy. OM, Will you please just stop for once. If you are so convinced that TWI was right and we're wrong go hang at their site for awhile. PLEEEEEEEEZE.

I remember drinking a whole pint of scotch whiskey in 45 min. Don't remember much after that.

Shell and Exxie, I'm not listening...la la la la laaaa I refuse to move it...so there :P--> You are stuck with me ... maybe these are things you DON'T want to know about me...did you guys think of that one... I'm not budging...final word!!! :P-->

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I guess I should continue this thread... (sorry no butt smelling stories) I teach I tutor I am a music junkie I entered a cult when I was 15 yrs. old I love photography I have 3 daughters I've been told I have a very twisted sense of humour. I love loud music and my children tell me to turn down my music I had the backbone of a catfish removed from the inside of my foot when I was 9 and I love seafood :D-->

Mr. Hammie, Very interesting. Strange but interesting nonetheless.

I have the same question as Jim...who is Patrick Heron?? Eagle, you any relation to Mr. Hammeroni...you guys you awfully alike. ;)-->

HCW, Yes, like Igotout shared...please continue. I feel privileged that you have decided to share this part of your life with us here. Greasespot is a wonderful place and there are some wonderful souls here who have lived through some serious grief themselves. I am oh so curious to see what TWI's take was on this whole thing. I'm sure it stinks. Yes, the LEAD experience at times put people in serious peril. I went LEAD twice. The first time I didn't make it on time and was sent back. My partner and myself spent over 48 hrs without sleep by the time we got back to Emporia. We were allowed to get cleaned up but had to report to D*ve B*dard and explain why we didn't make it. Both my partner and I said, "WE DON'T KNOW." He was disgusted and said we weren't allowed on campus (except for meals) 'til we earned the $10.00 each we were given before we left. We spent 3 days on the streets of Emporia trying to make the money. Finally I had a brain wave (well...I guess not a real brain wave 'cause a real brain wave would have been...get the .... out of Kansas...NOW!)but, I decided to sell one of my sweaters to my partner for his fianc?nd he paid me $20.00 for it. God must have been rolling His eyes up in heaven --> That was another thing...sending people on the road with a freghen sack lunch and $10.00 dollars that we weren't supposed to spend! MY GOD...HOW INSANE IS THAT!

Howard...come again???? Stop playing games Howard...just be yourself .... pllllleeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzeee -->