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Funny! Crook book. It does have some nice stories about life in the country for folks back in the day like party line telephones. ;-) And it may be of interest to someone who wants to preserve the knowledge of the beginnings of The Way. Now, it looks nothing like it did then. Good contrast for those looking for reasons to leave.

Thank you for taking the time to share your story. It is not easy to make the leap to leave something you knew practically your whole life. Once the leap is made, as you have seen, healing can begin. I wish you well in your new adventure. I heard SIT and interpretation OVER & OVER for years and years in my discontent where God promised: I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU. I WILL NEVER FORSAKE YOU. This is confirmed by Scriptures. This is the truth. He loves you. He loves me. There is nothing we can do that will make Him love us less. There is nothing we can do to make Him love us more. God is LOVE. That's what he does,and that is who He is. Happy New Year!

Cross posted in Books and Mag forum. Posted FYI only, in case any one here may be interested. A USA seller listed Born Again to Serve on eBay for $35 plus shipping. An Australian eBay seller has the same book listed for over $100 US dollars plus shipping. The seller says it is a private listing which means bidder info is hidden from the public. See the listing here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/272499878360?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 --Papertrained (artist & author, please refrain from derogatory comments regarding my screen name). HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

Posted in case someone is interested. Have you seen this? Mrs. Wierwille's biography about the early years is listed on eBay. An Australian eBayer has it listed for over 100 bucks. This one in USA is $35. The seller says It is a private listing which means bidder info is hidden from the public. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272499878360?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 --Papertrained (author and artist, please no derogatory comments about my screen name).

Goodness gracious it was a question. I did not think I would be lambasted, and insulted for asking it. The name papertrained refers to my use of paper in writing and artwork! And I get insulted, called a dog and pointed to a hydrant, and accused of different things and taunted! I did not come back on here to see the responses to the post until now because I am a student, employed and someone who also has to care for a family. I got a few responses to my question. Thank you. I do not even know why I came here out of boredom. I just did. So Shellon's response in a nutshell is that it is somewhat like a family, there are relationships that have been kept over the years. It's kinda like what ya'll do for church...only its online. I get it. And the clearinghouse of info is still available for those who need it. I get that. But gee. Lighten up. It was a question.

I was bored tonight and just came back here after several years of absence. People here seem to be talking about the same things as we were back then. At the risk of seeming judgmental, I need to ask: Are there still that many people trying to overcome Way years? Or is there still a steady stream of people who are leaving The Way and are looking for answers to what happened?

I have not been here in nearly a year. I imagine this reply will make way for many rebuttals but that's OK with me. I did not read all pages of this post but after the first two pages, I had to write. I welcome what Freud said and am glad he posted. LCM was described by Freud as a broken man, someone who seems to be struggling, someone with a vague past, someone carrying sadness. I recognize that man. It could have been me that he described, when I was climbing my own uphill battle when I was down from sin, burdened with guilt and seeking answers...questioning my whole life up to that point and greatly desiring DELIVERANCE. I was carrying a heavy burden that was too heavy for me to carry alone. I would only go to God and seek God alone because I felt like I could trust no one, talk to no one and all I wanted to do was HIDE from every one. Even strangers could not be trusted. WHo would possibly understand and listen and not judge or condemn me if they REALLY knew the facts about me, if they knew all the horrible details? I was already judged and condemned by myself. I already was living in my own misery, I did not want smeones' judgements to make it worse. I just wanted to live at peace again, like I knew a long time ago... But Hiding did not help and finally God directed me to a local relevant church [see http://www.relevantmagazine.com] that loved me up again, showing me unconditional love and concern. They encouraged me and let me be who I am, let me rise, let me shine and let God work in me and let me fulfill the calling God has had on my life since I was a little kid. It all started with a (get this one, an X Way grad) woman teaching about intimacy with God... It was a process and it took MUCH time, but Now I am FREE. Jesus Christ said: Matthew 11: 28 Come unto me, {COME UNTO ME, meaning himself, JESUS} all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Now I had always gone to God. I prayed to God. I acknowledged God and I read God's word. I never before EVER came to Jesus before. So I tried it out. So when the battle got intense, I began to say, "Jesus. " Sometimes thats all I could say because my guts felt like they were wrenching apart with pain and grief. Know what happened? I got peace and was able to rest more in the promises of God and got brought up higher than I ever had, ever before. I pray that LCM will receive the same deliverance I have known.I pray that anyone who was ever hurt by any man or woman, especially sexually, will receive deliverance from the seering pain and life changing agony of affliction. I lived through incest. I lived through sexual abuse and sexual assault. Even after all I have known, even after all I have done as retribution for the pain that was afflicted upon me, I can honestly say now that I AM FREE. Jesus Christ's broken body was enough for all mankinds' sins for all time and I thank God that I am free becasue of what He accomplished for me. I know I have not said I am sorry to most of the people I have hurt... Sadly, I do not know their names. I do not know where they live. I do not even remember what they look like. But I asked God to forgive me in the name of Jesus Christ and it was enough. The people who used and abused me have NEVER asked for my forgiveness. I decided to let it go...to forgive them so I would not become bitter and resentful. Free, on both sides; unforgiveness of wrongs done to me & wrongs I inflicted upon others, is a great place to be.

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That is an inspirational, surreal and awesome photo. It reminds me of the verse,that says, that "the fool says in his heart, 'there is no God. '" Looking at nature we can see God had to have created it all, in all its beauty and perfection! Our God is One Almighty God!!

Shell I tried to call you to ask what PT's means but could not reach you at the number I have. I hope I did not mix you up with someone else... --> We met as WOWs and shared a t shirt that said,"this T shirt is not distracting" with our mutual friend and had a fun picnic complete with "ants" on the dining room floor. :D--> Wanna play now? (I just discovered the smileys and think they are as fun as the test!) -->

LISTEN UP!! Good, thank you for your cooperation and attention... That was fun. I enjoy taking tests that I can not fail... But I am feeling a bit timid about sharing my responses. As a matter of fact, After comparing my responses to the key to the interpretation, I need more facts about the following details: 1) I would love to hear what the whole body of Christ is as it relates to this test and 2) note their individual function in the church of God and how it relates to this test to see, if in fact, that 3) this test is a reliable indicator of the proper functioning of the body of Christ. By the way, I would be willing to help out with the compilation efforts as long as someone else oversees this ardous process for if I get bogged down in all the details I will absolutly scream!!! However, I do not want to rock the boat and will only do the work if someone else heads it up. (just kidding, we'd be working on it until after Jesus comes back and then forget what we started anyway.) so lets just play instead!! Rats! I have work to do.... If you havent guessed, I am Amiable expressive But it would be more fun if someone I knew here played too.

Go back to TWI now? No way.I get more intimate, REAL, godly fellowship talking to God and other outties and babes in Christ than I did any time EVER with a TWI person. I recently went to a celebration that was hosted by an "innie." ( I have been mark and avoided over 6 years ago).I saw several other "innies" at this party who at one time were an inspiration to me. What is sad is that this one person in particular, when I tried to talk about the goodness of God, and that God is worthy to be praised, turned like stone and walked away. I got that kind of response to God's spoken Word by devote Baptists and other denominational christians. But from a TWI person? I was amazed that the coldness to the WOrd was so apparent. I was not surprised by it, just perplexed at the intensity of it. Go back now? Not now, not ever, unless God specifically tells me, "Papertrained, its time to take your paints back to TWI and bring 'em some color." "Everyday is a work of art."