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I have a brand new computer sitting in it's box. I really want to use it....but I am afraid......I don't know how to set it up...and connect to the Internet without risking some unwelcome guests...like spywear and so on. Really - I've had my fill of that..... So once I get it all plugget in to the wall current....what should I do? I have the luxury of this limping can of aluminum to assist. I have a wireless router over which I share the connection with another computer in the house. Is that enough to keep the bad boys off my tail??? or do I need another router in front of that one?

Wordwolf: I had one of those guys from India on a tech support call, and he told me that in order to fix the problem all I had to do was re-format my hard drive and I'd be fine! He would hold on while I did it too.......

Bluzeman - along those lines, is there any way anyoe except Pawtucket can ascertain our individual IP addresses from posting here? Also - is there any way to determine the IP address from individual email correspondance, and if so, how much info can they ger....legally or otherwise? Thanks

HCW I also thank you for presenting this. We've seen or experienced abuse of one kind or another from the organization. Somehow they used their manipulation of "facts" (the facts were what they said they were) plus the "lock box" perpetuated further abuse in all categories of everyone's life. I thought I had shaken myself free from all the stuff I was holding onto...but this story - this is a whole other ball game. The highest "leaderdang" had no regard for the people they used. Not for their hearts, wallets, private lives, and even their own lives. It must be unspeakably painful to re-live all this while you write about it. I'm looking forward to hearing more as you recover from these first installments. Thank you!

Well - I sure felt like a POW sittin' in all those classes!

I think what he meant to say was that there is racial profiling in an area where there are no real problems. At least that's the way I read it.

I am still working our the lumph stuff. However, I'm still fututzing around with a limping 'puter here. Bad overheating problem which no amount of oxygenated water will help. (tee hee) When the new one arrives and is set up, I can spend more time searching and scanning and posting. But this statement is wrong!I really need all my 'puter working together to show it to you, however. Please be patient...I haven't forgotten.

It has affected me in some subtle ways. While teaching in an inner city school, a kid swiped my wallet. He pulled it out of my purse while I was busy elsewhere. Far be it from the powers that be to give lowly teachers even a locker. I didn't even have a closet for my coat so I stuffed it in a filing cabinet assigned to me. My car was seriously keyed while I worked there. But I would never drive a really good new car near the place...something would be missing from it if I did. Now around this area, I never go anywhere alone at night. That is just as much a function of disability as it is prudence. I carry a small purse with a limited amount of cash and 1 credit card. My driver's license and registration and my bank ATM card are carried in a different Wallet type folder. Someone tried to mug me in an elevator in a high rise when I was younger. I grabbed the family jewels and yanked down very hard....and he was still on the elevator floor when the police came.

Belle - I knew you weren't condemning me - sorry if you read it that way. The condemnation I was talking about was those innies who may be thinking of leaving...not to condemn themselves for still being "in"....or for thinking about getting out.

I appreciate your links too, Zixar. The kind of experimentation suggested in your last link is the kind that should be done if you're looking for scientic evidence. Perhaps now everyone can understand what I meant when I said that David cannot undertake this proof! The company was presented with a great opportunity. Too bad they dropped the ball like that.

Socks - I just love the way you think! you have a pt

Belle - I know you're right. I don't mean to condemn anyone. It wasn't easy for me to leave either. I never felt I would litterally die if I left that ministry, but I did find it hard to think about leaving because my whole life was entangled with it. I just got worn down by the constant demans on my time and energies. There was no one moment in time which caused me to see the light so to speak.

Zshot - - all of us women require some maintenance or else we wouldn't be female! I know you know that. What I'm wondering is, how much is too much in your view?

I wonder if his pair juice can be superoxygenated? (could not resist the pun) I might dring a tad every once in a while...but for sure my main beverage would be the water.

I was wrong too about scientists Linda. It was Koch who worked out the germ theory of disease....and he did it with controlled experiments! Lister was one of his students. Linda I will agree with you on the bet, but I won't bet against you. Geo - - aw c'mon....even in this young country, there were medical schools in 1860! They weren't as good as those in England and the Continent at the time, but it wasn't folk medicine. Although I do have to say that if the AMA and the pharmacies don't stop getting in each other's way, together with the FDA there isn't goint to be as much progress as we would like. Also - I never meant to suggest that alternative therapies should replace our medical practices. But in conjunction with them they can be of great benefit. By the way Geo. I do agree with taxes and HMO's and all that rot. But that's corruption from within and around the systems today. My HMO won't pay for me to consult the Dr. of my preference because he's not on their "approved" list...but it will pay half the drug bills. So - - I see their guy when I need tests or Rx refills and I pay out of my own pocket when I think I'm in trouble to see the Dr. I have come to trust! But - that's the status of health care in the greatest country in the world today....more's the pity.

That does look like loy with a wig!

George - - huh??? They weren't hanging on to antiquated thinking...they were doing all they knew how! And you're right - they weren't practicing science - - they were practicing medicine! We live in a scientifically and technologically oriented society. When we look back over history, it's very hard for us not to use those glasses and we jump to conclusions. We have to view these events of the past in their own context, we can't superimpose our own standards on them. At those times, doctors operated in an open room, it was called a theater because there were chairs in ascending rows. They came fully dressed in coat and tie for these procedures. Med students and other doctors sat in the galleries to learn this new thing called surgery. Lister sat in one of these theaters and we know he was "pro cleanliness" after he'd worked out the germ theory of disease....and he watched another surgeon drop an instrument on the floor. The surgeon bent over to pick it up off the floor and begin to use it again when Lister gasped and asked the doctor if he wasn't at least going to wipe it off. The operating physician wasn't convinced of Lister's theories and so wiped the blade of the instrument off on his coat sleeve while sneering at Lister. By the way, it is still called "The Practice of Medicine" to this day. And all have acknowledged that it is a balancing act between art and science. At this point in time, I've decided that it isn't necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this works. I look at it this way: If horses are given the stuff, not in measured quantity, but freely during their training and racing days, and their performance improved...how much more evicence do I need to know that there's a benefit there. I didn't use to think this....really....it's just that in thinking about this thread and writing all these posts, I'm just backing off from the heat of posting and realizing....it ain't rocket science. We're not talking about administering a "drug". We're talking about oxygen. Horse physiology and human physiology cannot be all that much different in that respect. If thoroughbread horses at the top of their game have been shown to benefit, li'l old me....in my waning years can certainly profit from it. (I was sure I was feeling better - - but then all this talk about placebo had me guessing for a while - - now I'm convinced it's not a plecebo.)

See me - - stinging tears stream down my face as my fingers tap on the keys O how I wish this never happened - but I know it did. I wish I knew something about this at the time. I would have phoned you and at least you could have had a somewhat sane shoulder to cry on. I would have taken you out for coffee or ice cream....just something to show support...some way to let you know (as if you needed it) there was another hand to hold. A long time ago, there was a poster here named Josey Whales, and he and I and a few others used to say we would be watchmen on the Old Testament City Walls...and warn the people within of coming danger. You tried that as an individual and for a time twi mowed you down. Eventually the perp was caught and jailed but after how much dammage. How many more of you, like LLP are going to skim the surface of these tragedies and not take an opportunity to escape to a real, true, safe and joyful life. God will NOT strike you down! We're all still here! And we're all here by the invitation of the Pawtucketeer! Who knows what he's had to do to keep this place afloat....together with all those who support and help him. How many more children being abused will it take? How many more wives of good husbands will have to servise leaderdangs? How many more of those entering the upper echelon will have their way with your wives? What will it take to snap your head around?

Herb - let me congratulatate you on this. I hope your conference is more successful than you can dream. I'm so glad this kind of farming is being encouraged. Everybody eats better!

You're right about the long view of history, Linda. There was a physician who delivered babies at London's Women's Hospital (in the 1860's). Women flocked to him and his hospital for childbirth. His name was Simmelweiss and he was the one who insisted that all hospital personnel wash hands thoroughly between attending patients. That was one of the most important things to end the scourge of pregnancy and delivery, childbed fever...which newly delivered mothers rarely survived! He had plenty of flak to stand against as other physians and hospitals threw whatever they could at him because of all the monies they were losing. Very few people knew or understood about the germ theory of disease, or why diseases spread at that time, it was anecdotal evidence to them. They just knew that it worked.

I respectfully disagree Johnny Lingo! When those of us who lived through those times, or knew people who did die off, somebody's gonna say the photos were doctored! Let the real thing stand there as a testamony to the potential evil mankind can wreak against mankind. But the garden idea is terriffic. Suppose a 12 X 12 plot of land was cultivated for each country, religion, ethnenticity on the planet...with a narrow walkway inbetween all of them. If anything will grow there, plant it on the grounds around the buildings and let visitors see for themselves the contrast between the two. That would make a statement no one could wave or shrug off ever. Without potent reminders people forget and then history does repeat itself.

Indeed it was! Wouldn't it be great if in reality we could all live as "flowers of one garden"? Well - maybe the elections abroad today may be a step toward that end....at least I can hope so anyway. Hope is allowed!

I was totally unaware of anything by vpee until Waydale. I had fleeting suspicions of lcm from tome to time around the mid 80's but I dismissed them until I was forced to look at them in the very late 90's.

That's romantic George - - much much better than the guy who placed a $17 thousand ad!

my favorite ice cream is chocolate peanut butter swirl My grandmother lived on a houseboat in Long Island Sound during the Depression but she would not give up her pets. The dog was rowed to shore in the morning, and Grampa went back for him at night! She toilet trained the can!!! (yes Queenie pulled the chain)