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You've done your homework rhino! As time goes on I am less inclined to think we are in a peermanent climate change and even less so to think that we are the cause of such change. There is no way to tell if I am correct, but that's my best guess - and I could be wrong - - BUT that's what I think! Now before we start beating China over the head - - let's remember WHO it was that outsources so much to her....hmmmmm.

........s-i-g-h.......

He did a lot more than obsess. He did his share of "possession" if you know what I mean.

No closed doors for these guys George. They both do it out in the open so to speak. Now Bees! They are something else. They do it very high in the sky, not 20,000 feet up, but high enough that we can't see it...and they do it while flying. I wonder what they think of the mile high club - tee hee

Afteer we get done joking around...I'm asking a serious question! How did they get their hands on TWI materials to hold courses like that with identical titles? Likeaneagle, if possible, could you go back into your history and see where it came from? This is most unusual.

Have a great day Andy! And here's a little treat: Mrs Prindables is the best in this kind of stuff!

Various Protestant denominations staff and teach their own ways at their own seminaries. This appears to be nothing more than a seminary for what we knew as TWI. Look at the course offerings, they have the same titles as things we "studied". You enter with at least 2 years of undergraduate work and take these classes (it appears to be at least 2 additional years)and you graduate with a Bachelor of Theology degree. I know we understand that most of the body of knowledge that we were taught was stolen, and much of it was wrong. That does not mean somebody else really wants to chow down on it and take the program. It may be an answer to those who've said....how can you be called a Reverand...you didn't attend any seminary etc. They are trying to fit in and be just like the rest of the world so they don't stand out so much!

Mister-P did a good job there. Given all the natural sources for global warming, I'm not convinced that we should blame ourselves for it. Yes, we contribute - but it's my belief that what we contribute to the CO2 load of the planet is very small. Last I remember, the quantity of CO2 in the air is 0.05%- one half of 1%. Now look around at every living thing you can see on the land and in the upper layers of the ocean. We are all carbon based. All of the standing vegetation remains as "fixed" carbon ( remember photosynthesis???) And look at the quantity of it world wide...and all the animals which consume this stuff. My point is that a little will go a long way over time! Yes it seems there is a trend toward getting warmer but we have only been keeping records for about 150 years so there is no way to know if we are way out of line or not. Meteorologists have measured the CO2 concentration in ice core samples in Antarcrica and have found some instances where it is very nearly as high as present day levels. There is a corner of my brain where a seed of suspicion is growing. I wonder how much of "this" - is being frothed up for political gain!

Interesting rhino - I don't know if all those points raised are accurately portrayed AND play a role in climate changes, but the points raised were interesting and to my mind, worthy of further study, or at least paying attention to. Thanks for the article.

Dooj - I don't think the link was dead. I think there were too many people trying to access it and only one or two could get in at a time. I got in - no problem. Sorry it takes so long to load...I don't know how to reduce it! To post a picture click on the 5th icon from the far right, enter it's location (if it's on your computer you have to upload it). I Then clicked on "properties" and I copied the URL from what he had and pasted them into the space presented when you click that icon. Voilà! It's very late and my thinking is a clear as mud, so I hope that all made sense.

If it is going to be that large a body of water, it will have a tide.

A steady diet of tuna is not a good idea. Pregnant women have been advised to limit tuna to one small portion every week or one larger portion every other week. It seems many of them contain large quantities of lead. you can blame the process of bio-accumulation for that. We would do well to look for animals who are not the top predators. If we do that, we consume fewer toxins and we can keep the top predators from going extinct. There are lots of things they will eat that I'd rather not have around.....hawks and eagles and owls will eat mice and rats...I don't like rats...mice are ok....but not rats. (jk about the mice)

Congratulations PB. We did something similar to you Bumpy and Rocky in the late 90's. We sold our very large house because we were house poor. Our home/house was the envy of all in the neighborhood for many reasons, but once the children were gone and dad died, all we did was work keeping it up and pay high taxes for it. Now we live in an apartment in our son's 2-family house for a very modest rent + DH does nearly all the outside maintenance, garbage hauling, snow removal, leaf raking, etc, etc. Fair is fair! It is such a relief - especially since we no longer need all that room. I don't need 8 bedrooms, 2 dens and an office!!!! But we're not home free. We are comfortable and don't have any needs really - but like most folks we have our share of "gee I wish...." But - that's life! edited for spelling and to correct baaad grammar

Mister-P - - you are a knowledgeable person. Bumpy was talking about infra-structure....why not rhink again and add some comments! Anyway bumpy you're getting me to rant in many directions so I should stop now. I don't need to point out what all is wrong with the world because everyone already knows that things are wrong Please??? I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Of course most people would know that teachers are working and not just occupying time. They are "on task" all the time. ( pardon the teacher pun there) But you can be occupied reading the funnies, watching TV, playing games etc and not be really working. There is a time and a place for everything. Playing cards or watching TV or joining a Bowling League is important. We all need time during the week to decompress. t

Bumpy was hoping for discussion - here's my input although I suspect lots of noise about it. Most of you will hate the idea, I think. I love this country, I think it's still the greatest place on earth to live. Everyone in the world should be patriotic to their country but I have a passion for mine! There's plenty wrong in plenty of places. Therefore...... A corner of my brain wonders if we haven't become too big for our britches. Not too big in government....too bit a country. We occupy a significant land area and have a reasonably significant number of people, and a greater than average diversity compared with other nations of the world as far as I understand. M-a-y-b-e we are just a little too much on the other side of what CAN be reasonably governed by our REPUBLICAN means....I don't mean the political party, I mean the system. We have to change the system - - sorry RI you don't get the same 2 senators that CA does. That makes it more of a democracy. See, we SAY we are a democratic society but in reality we are NOT - that's what I find frustrating. So when elections come...the electoral votes do correctly elect the president, but maybe that's not the right way to do it now at our size and level of diversity. OR - we could divide up the land into 2 or more geographic areas and lit folk move to live where they want. Either way we go with the above we are going to lose something that makes us Americans I do agree that much of our infrastructure needs restructuring...it's bad. In all of our major cities, there are so many homes which have barely the electrical service they should since they were built so long ago and today's electrical use has grown monumentally. I get NYC 's TV news and almost every day there is a building collapse in Manhattan or a building facade falls or some thing of the sort. The subway is dangerous when a heavy rain drips through and the workers place buckets under them....three or more floors down. There are at least 2 levels of trains through much of Manhattan and some of other boroughs as well. I don't know about L.A., or Seattle, or Chicago - - but Boston has many of NYC's problems and "the Big Dig as well". --------------------------------------------- So much of this depends on your perspective. I think there is no one right answer at this point. I think you are both right within the areas you've talked about, but there is so much more to the picture.

If you live in a place where you can easily find a Clinique booth, my very best favorite lately is "Happy". Don't make your judgment based on a spray on your hand....let it dry and work with your body a short while...maybe 15 minutes. It's not over powering. Calyx by Prescriptives is also good, but if you select this, purchase a small quantity if you won't use up the container in a year or so because I found that it tended to turn after that (or my skin did) If it were me - - I would get both...and use Happy during the day and Calyx at nitght. Do some experimenting with each...a little goes a long way.

As things were in the 50's in Queens, we were pretty poor - - not dirt poor - one step up. BUT we had a TV because my dad built it. He brown bagged it to lunch every day for a year and saved about $100. Then one hot humid awwful day we went into downtown Manhattan to buy the kit from Heath. We sat in the car broasting, and he came running out saying to my mother "Babe, (his pet name for her) please tell me you have your Christmas money on you (she nearly always did for reasons we won't discuss here) and I need you to give me $10 because then I can get a 12" screen! She did, so that's what he got. (the other was 10".) It took a long long time. Dad took his time and did it right. Mom and dad sort of did it together. He would build it at night, and when he finished each step he put a check mark next to it and it was her job the next day to check over his work and put a hatch mark through the check if it was right and leave it alone if she wasn't sure or if she thought it was wrong. All the parts had colored banding patterns and numbers on them so it was pretty easy to tell. When he got it all done, one Saturday nite after dinner it was a family event, he put in the picture tube, plugged it in and it worked. The very first time! The poor Pederxxen's had TV!!! And our house was child Mecca for cartoons ever after....and westerns on Saturday afternoons too. I don't remember everything from the beginning, though. The first I do remember was we had ch 2,4,5,7 and 9. Seven and Nine were kind of flukey sometimes. Channel 13 (PBS) wasn't there right away I don't think. Maybe we had so "many" because we lived so close to the broadcast towers. Danny - - The Fly also scared me out of my pantaloons too. Excathy - - THEM did almost the same thing to me...those huge giant and very sinister black shiny ants...(shiver). And Waysider - - yes, I remember that screen. My Grandfather had one..but he only used it for watching baseball. He also had a magnifier on a separate stand that he used for watching boxing (which used to be a regular event back in those days) (it was not nearly as dangerous as it appears to be today). I remember Small-Fry Club every afternoon with "Uncle Ed" and it's theme song was "Zip-pity do dah zip-pity-yayy...." I remember "Captain Video and his Video Rangers" (cardboard props and all - only on Saturday)). Howdy Doody (with Clarabelle and company) was another daily wonder. I was Clarabelle for Halloween more than one year in my life. To quote Archie Bunker....actually to quote Edith - - - "Those were the ddaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyys!!!!!!!"

First I feel that I need to apologize for being so late in thanking you all for your wonderful greetings. I'm going to download this thread and look at it in the winter on my half b'day in Feb when it's cold and yucky so I can feel special again ha ha I just got in from my yearly physical, and it was pretty elaborate this time (no problems - that's just how it is) and I had to stop for food cause I was starving and then one thing lead to another and finally I can sit at the computer whew It's wonderful to have such a great family like all of you, and those who thought of me but didn't post. I did have a wonderful birthday "weekend" and your thread just topped the whole thing off. Thanks again.

Read all about it here. Google had quite a few listings for Archangel Cologne!

That was very funny! I enjoyed every word. However, I should remind you that I am all sugared up with b'day cake and also had more than 2 glasses of wine with dinner......hiccup nevertheless - - I loved it.

I didn't want to spoil your thread excathy! Love it Suda!

Now wait - - -just a cotton-picking' minute!!! Just because we got took by a class that rooked us eventually does not mean that all classes will do this. I spent some time exploring the website and there are many true statements made there NOT just Biblical ones. For example diets which are so hard to follow and leave you hungry set you up to feel like a failure eventually....or words to that effect. It's true that eating very little does not help you lose weight. Your body goes into starvation mode and it uses everything you eat differently. Add up you total calories per day ( 15 cal peer pound of your present body weight) that's what you need to maintain yourself today. Cut that by 15 - 20% and eat good foods from all food groups. You want a piece of apple pie, eat a s-m-a-l-l piece. Get your "booty" moving. Walk. Do something. Do your housework to jazz. Vacuum in double time! Take the stairs. In a month, weigh yourself again and eat 75-80% of the required caloried.....you will lose weight and you can learn to control your hunger, but if you eat good quality foods, get those veggies in you - - etc..... The first section of this class deals with changing your thoughts on food.....by using God! You can do that....which one of us has not prayed for help with something. I have been doing what I described above and I have lost a little weight. However, I must take a form of cortisone and that is hellish on diets...usually people on cortisone gain weight. So suppose it takes me more than a year to lose the 40 pound I want to lose....I'll be here in a year! I can do that! Now I also know that making fun of stuff like this is fun. And I enjoyed your fol-de-rol - and would have chimed in with something of my own. I just posted this because just because we see a class doesn't mean we should get on the defensive...maybe there is value...look for the value. I'll bet that if you guys had poked around the website a little, you may have posed something different....but it still would be funny. 'Cause that's the way we are at the GSC - - we poke fun - sometimes not too good naturedly - - at stuff that looks like the krapp we came out of. . . . . . . off soap box now....but looking for more funny stuff

I agree with you ex10. Roy says that often in his posts that God loves us but sometimes when life happens too fast and we get sucked into the spiral of some of the world's nasty things, we tend to forget. It's great to have Roy around here to remind us often. Hat's off to you Roy! Here - take one of these donuts fresh from the oven....or I have some really nice warm fresh bagels this morning too if you'd rather have them! love krys