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There is a good reason to memorize certain things and use them as a standard. Look at the way WordWolf laid out the various definitions from different authors. They don't all have the same meaning. Once you get the correct meaning, writing it down and committing it to memory means you won't be swayed (or at least less likely to be).

Great song Waysider! It's all a matter of perspective. When you're 5...you have to wait 25% of your life waiting for the next one. When you're 10 you have to wait only 10%. BUT when you're 50 rhat same single year is less than 1%. It's the same 365 days (excluding leap years) but ;laid out in perspective like this it's more understandable. Our days are numbered. So - - if you want to tell somebody you love them...better shake a leg and get started. If you want to make a contribution somewhere to our society I suggest you plan it out and get started.

I'm not keeping anything alive in my thoughts or dreams. There are a few twi folks here and there throughout the country and their reasons for hanging around range from...."I still think that some good folks will come back again" to......whatever....even just bad habit!

But Burton's class was dropped and vp's reinstated when Burton left or was fired! I don't know when you were there Raf, yearwise. I know that I heard Burton's class and later it was dropped.

Will the last one out flip the light switch please.............no need to run up Paw's bill.

Some tc's and bc''s wanted their people to be so "spiritually aware" that they imposed all the corps mandates on them too. So, we also had to keep time schedules in 15 minute segments and then re-submit them corrected, of course. I happened to mention that I thought keeping such records would cut my productivity and my tc agreed with me. He put it to me this way.......We see so many "believers" not making progress in their lives, so I think this will be good for them. If they have to makes themselves a schedule in advance they'll have to think of how they spend their time" and he was sure I'd only have to do it once because he knew how busy I was. So I filled out the form and then the one for next week with the corrected first week form. Absolutely nothing was done as I suspected and planned in it's little time cubby hole. So I re-did the form on a larger piece of paper with the corrections filled in in different ink color. That was the end of that for me...but other folks didn't know anything about scheduling....so there was some profit for them...They were taught how to budget time and other things about time management. I was fortunate, very fortunate...the immediate leadership I had was really into helping people and teaching some of our twig how to budget their money and their time was a good thing for them. I probably had the only leadership in the country who did things like that. However, later I discovered that they were leading a double life....showing one face to some folks and the other to twi mucky-mucks. That's when I began formulating my exit strategy.

Ham - - give me a little while and I can probably scrounge up a hippy dudette....but I promise she won't be toooo hippy (in girth) If you want one who likes dogs, that could take a while because I don't know any dogs. But may I could find a Christian......exactly how particular are you. Do you want a dude or a dudette, for example?

Any old folks home is too good for martindale. . . . . . . . . . Hello mr. linder

I don't think there are any left at Box 328 in a certain town in OH, but if you read some of these posts, you can pick out a few of those gifts here at the cafe. The spirit energizes what it will where it can. I don't think there is anything holy out there. We know that some day we'll all be judged, and I'm not going to get away squeaky clean...neither are you! However, some who are/were in authority positions will have so much more to answer for especially for the harm they may have caused to some of the brethren. I don't understand how some folks are able to operate. In my locality, there exists almost an entire branch of "oldies" who have aligned themselves with one of the offshoots. The "acting" branch coord. absolutely knows about the totality of the corruption in VP's and loy's time. Yet they preach the same old same old. How can one walk on 2 sides of the fence at the same time???

I'm not telling what I'm doing because it's a surprise!

I'm not surprised, mr socks!

But they can't move away. It seems they need the comfort of "the teacher". I think that all the times he assured or reassured folks with "don't worry, if it's wrong I'll tell you".....they are so stuck there that they can't let go to go anywhere else. I recently had an unexpected encounter with a group that used to be a couple of twigs with a few folks not there. They were talking and acting as if they were back in the "good old days", as if nothing had happened! They have their fellowships 3 times per week. View the sns dvd. I cannot comprehend how they do it anymore. And the believe they're worshiping God. I recognize their names and faces. But that's all. It was eerie!

Thanks Twinky! I never thought about that aspect of their lives. I just thought that meant Paul was "in charge". These little details never dawned on me so I'm glad you pointed them out. Now I understand why he was not married at this point in is life. How could he take care of the new and blossoming church and a wife?! I don't think he could have completed any of his ministry with a wife (at that time).

Much of the addiction is heredity. If you look carefully, those who are seriously addicted have others in the family who were also. Not necessarily the same substance, but it's there. I've known a few people who have conquered an addiction without a 12 step program and were successful. Anyone who has successfully quit smoking has done exactly that - - - wrestled an addiction into the ground without any 12 step program. Once I finally decided I was determines to quit....it took me 7 or 8 serious attempts and about 5 years before I was successful enough to string 30 nonsmoking days together. Once I got that far...the rest was reasonably easy. edited to add: If you look in your phone book you may find a few addiction specialist physicians. If you contact them, you may find a good place to start. Frequently physicians can and do make coming off the substance more comfortable and I am sure they will have a list of counselling centers listed for their patient's use. I'm sure if you contact one of them, you'll find what you're looking for.

Maybe that's why they had us review the Sunday tapes all the time. Producing a "new" teaching isn't so easy. And how do I know that???? All of my working life was spent in school as a teacher! When first asked, or rather told, to teach one time....I spent hours exploring what they wanted me to "cover" and then another bunch of hours how to do it...from what perspective...would it be humorous???would I be daring enough to crack a joke? But once I had all the in' and out's worked out..it was a snap. And the powers that be didn't ask me to teach very often....because I was really much better at it than they were.....not to toot my own horn....but when you're born a teacher, and studied all the stuff, and worked at it for 20 years or so - - you sort of have it down, ya know?

nothing like it

WordWolf took the words out of my mouth, only he did so more eloquently!

That fear, once instilled became so pervasive that even if one was no longer with the group, the fear still shook you up. Look at this web site and also WayDale. How many posters use their own names? Some do from an abundance of caution due to the evils of the time we live in now....but others wouldn't let their name out because they didn't want anyone to know they were reading these threads. Hell - - Even though it didn't happen to me directly - - but to my son and his then-wife - - it took me 10 years before I said beans about that situation (think 98 Advanced Class in case you forgot) Why would such a think take so long....I was afraid some goombah would meet me in the ShopRite shopping alone...not 2 by 2 as were were supposed to be.....and find me doing something I wasn't supposed to do! Ten years is a whole decade.....and I only breached that conversation because I had 2 strong friends who encouraged me, who had my back so to speak. Also - - nobody insulted me by denying that it happened...nearly everyone heard something about that class that year.

Not only did he take Leonard's work and pass it off as his own...but he never checked to see in what was presented was true. This goes beyond Maggie Muggins - - it shows that everything he heard with his "itchy ears" was passed down directly as he heard it. How many times did we even do word studies to be sure we were reading correctly...to be sure we were getting the real deal. This circus was translated to a farm in Ohio by a charlatan. He not only stole the "show" but he set it up not to reach people with the good things he heard, but to entice them to buy a ticket to the show. I sincerely believe that B G Leonard had a solid and mostly factual class as far as he could ascertain. He was the man who developed a class that most likely did collect people and point them correctly where they should go. It is one of the worst tragedies that this body of knowledge was skimmed from a servant of the lord (which I believe Leonard truly was) and formed by VPW into what became a multi-level scheme to make money and manipulate people for his own pleasures and taught others to do likewise.

I guess he must have thought he had accomplished something great. Hmmmmm - - I wonder what it could have been?

The most fun I ever had at a potluck was where nobody disclosed what they intended to bring. So what if there would be 9 dishes of scalloped potatos. Just for once, we didn't have a balanced meal. It was fun to see what turned up!

If there were no GSC (and it's predecessor) there would have been no way for thousands to heal. There would have been no way for hundreds of thousands to know something of the truth. How many times has someone started a post here with I met someone....yadda yadda ....associated with twi......and asked us for advice. And if course, if there was no GSC a certain Mr. Linder would have been a lot less busy reading a trying to figure out who was whom .....ahem! I wonder if he's got it all figured out now?

Isn't it about time to give up the red shoes?

Maybe we're still possesso'd?

Maybe we're still possesso'd?