krys

This IS absolutely a Ministry! Pawtucket oversees it, and if he were ordained or not, it doesn't matter. I believe he is acting on God's behalf with his unique talents to provide and administer this site. His presence at the helm is no accident. Most of us, corps or not, are also ministers and are Ministering truth. We uphold honor and (frequently) Truth. We support each other, even if we disagree sometimes on "insignificant" issues, we assist one another to heal from evil which hurt God's people. When I said GSC is a Ministry, I don't mean that in the sense of a movement such as "Billie Grahm's Ministry" - - but rather that God worked in the hearts and minds of some who had the abilities, and they ran with the ball, gathering us all up as time went on. We are here to warn and teach anybody who wants to know. And we help hearts and minds heal. Furthermore, when it snows here....it's in someplace cold in an appropriate season! Many voices here especially on this forum, but in others as well, have spoken and when you read their words, you absolutely know why they tell what they tell and they are motivated by the love they have of God to "pastor" those who need it - - all this in spite of the fact that this is not primarily a "Chrstian" Forum.

Oh, I get it! "It is Written" means stuff twi wrote in the way rag, or collaterals, or taught on a tape.....not what "we" as older folks were taught....referring to what was written by holy men as they were inspired by God. Those are the words meant when they say..."the prevailing word in the household of our day and time" So, now not only have they removed Jesus Christ, but also Scripture. And some folks think Scientology is weird!

I got out in '98, but I remember words like this too. I believe it was the sns tape where lcm announced that the Word was over the world, and we were going to the "PLofPW" somebody, and I believe it was he, said that he didn't believe that all the old timers were going to "go for it" - meaning, the promised land of the prevailing Word. I remember that very well, it stunned me. I was wondering how old "oldtimers" had to be if they weren't going to "go for it" - and if my 20 years qualified me for that group.

p.s. If you find something useful, don't pass it up just because you think it is too small. If the teacher asks about size...tell him/her that the bird only looks small because it's hig up looking for the snake.

Try to NOT use a vulture - they eat only dead stuff.

I've been pondering this question since it was first posted. I'm not so sure he's still be riding high. A few times, when I was listening to ranting on the tapes, I thought he was going to have a stroke or heart attack with the fury of his words. It seems to me that I often thought he was only a hairs-breadth away from losing control. If he ever did - I think it would have been like the implosion of a certain democratic candidate...... If that ever happened, I'm not so sure the rest of them could have allowed him to continue. They would have had a cover story of some kind....but they would have had no choice but to replace him.

There is no right way to fold tee shirts! fold'em how you like 'em so they fit in the drawer! They wanted me to roll them...like "jet packing". And there is no right way to hang tp either - suit yourself! It's one thing to pass helpful hints or tips along...I've picked up quite a few from the Corps women that I liked and use to this day...but it's quite another to force your method on somebody else just because you can.

Agreed socks - - Rhapsody is really welcome in my computer too!

nope! not as long as I draw breath................... and wasway owns a PalmPilot

Let Rafael tell it again! The Story of THE

It seems to me that somewhere quite some time ago we had a thread entitles "50 Ways to Leave TWI" Does anyone remember it, or know where it may be?

I got reproved a couple of times for my love of classical music. The old masters were pozzezzed donchaknow!

Insurgent - at least you had the decency to call first. One of my tc's used to come over at her pleasure and if the door was unlocked, walk right in and sit in my kitchen. One day, I was collecting closthes from the dryer, when I came upstairs she wanted to know why my living room floor was cluttered with "all those paper things" and why wasn't I picking them up? I gave her an answer - stupid me! I told her the truth, I was grading student poster projects on the floor because they were too big to fit on a table when the drier buzzed and I wanted to fold the laundry before it wrinkled. I got a lecture about not finishing one task before starting another. I was going to introduce her to the term "multitasking" but thought better of it and put on the coffee instead. We sat chatting while I folded laundry and put the basket on the stairs to bring up next trip. (there was no offer of help) I asked her to bring her coffee into the living room so I could finish my maps...she came...told me I assigned too much work to my students....and suggested I should manage things better by.....&....&.....etc. I nodded politely because I didn't want another arguement. I didn't realize that this was an "inspection". I'd never heard of that....until several months later when someone mentioned that I fold men't tee shirts wrong. It clicked immediately but I remained silent because by this time I was aware of spy tactics on others. At least when you announce home inspections, you know what's going on. This bunch just did it on the sneak...and wrote stuff down. ************************************* You know how some people stretch their arm on top of a sofa when relaxing? I never thought about it twice until one nite, there was a "tape night" at my house. Somebody accidentally dropped a notebook behind the sofa, and when I went to get coffee - and - ready...they pulled out the coffee table and sofa to get the notebook. The assistant tc looked at the tc in amazement and said "the vent's clean!" (we had hot air heat, and the return vent was behind the sofa) It took a long time for me to get over this, and I never really did. Once I realized the treachery I vowed to never be unprepared in any area again. It drove me crazy, but I kept the vow. I should have tossed the lot of them out...but keeping God in my life was too important to me and I was so brainwashed that He would leave me instantly, that I never dared to do that. I wish I had done otherwise.

The time schedule we had to fill out was in advance....not what we did yesterday. It was to be filled out in advance one week ahead of time and turned in on Thurs nite @ "twig". I refused to do it and "they" loved screaming at me! I had always been exemplary before and willingly so, but this I could not do. I had a full time job teaching, had 2 teenagers, was "supervising" my elderly father in addition to routine house-hold running duties. I was willing to give them a list of projected activities day by day, but that was it. (I was a list maker anyway) Then I was told that "I" don't tell "them" how I'm supposed to do things! I had to appear with my tc, bc in front of the "new" lc - I had been in almost exactly 18 years at that time, and was not planning on attending an Advanced Class Seminar on a particular weekend. That was a bone of contention, but not the only one. TC had compassion having known me for 12 of the 18 years, bc was semi-livid (he had calmed down by the time this meeting took place) and the lc listened to what the bc had to say. (He was the only one invited to speak - and he was the only unmarried person there and about 15 years my junior) LC listened and then asked my why I didn't comply with the list and I told him...I have so many balls to juggle, I can't confine them today to where they are gonna all be next Thursday at 11:15 am! They dismissed me from the room while they discussed it. Mind you....I was a perfectly good little way-fer up to now...never did anything wrong....so I was really sweatting this! Later they called me in and LC asked why I wasn't going to AC function and I said...I can't be there b/c that is the day my final exam is given and I have to have all the papers done and all final grades handed in on Mon at 8am. LC then asked why I refused to comply with the list - told him same story....I'll give you a list of things I expect to do, but can't put them in compartments and can't always predict how long some things (like lesson plans and writing tests) will take. LC decided I was "redeeming my time" quite well and didn't need such a schedule and told the bc to stop pressing for it and accept the generalized list and I just about went through the floor. Believe me when I tell you that it took all the courage I had to make that statement in the beginning and had belly cramps for the whole week this took to resolve. But, as far as I know, I was the only one who got away with this!

Reason? What reason? They didn't need no steekin' reason!

GT wrote Actually I had forgotten all about that until you just reminded me. But it's interesting that you would think that of me. Absolutely true! But you don't see him bellyaching to Pawtucket about it, and you don't see him accusing Pawtucket when Rocky starts something up. Rocky is responsible for bringing this over here when he was banned from the Political Forums. It started when he brought the Barry Goldwater thing. I'm not scape-goating anybody.If you'll read my last few posts, I think you'll see that I think we've all been brought into - or sucked into - a boiling cauldron, and I made an appeal to everybody to "cool it" This is never ok. *************************************** I wasn't defending Zixar and preferring him over Rocky. I stood with him in believing that Rocky should apologize to Pawtucket for all his shennanegans. If anybody is harrassed here, it's Pawtucket, in fact, he said so. Go back and look among the earlier pages on this thread if you have the energy and read it for yourself.(for anybody who thinks differently) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There is an old Icelandic Proverb that says: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" I no longer have the energy to fend off the heat. I've reached that stage in my life where it is a waste of time to plan for the future and as time passes I have less energy to spend, so I want to be careful how I invest it. It breaks my heart to see some of the best of the best fighting over trivialities that they cannot control. It hurts me to see people reading into things ideas that aren't there. I surprised myself when I clicked on the desktop icon to take my morning coffee to the forums...habit, I guess. But it was an interesting adventure....kinda cool seeing what folks think about you when you're not around...but I shall not be back. I'll be more careful tomorrow morning :)-->

Look at us! Look at what we are doing! Rocky has succeeded in stirring up trouble to the point where we begin to fight amongst ourselves. We are looking over every jot and tittle because he didn't like being banned from the Policical Forum - so he started some potentially volatile thread over here. He fanned the flames....and guess who hasn't posted in several pages while he watches us tear each other and ourselves to shreds over things we take out of context....and we start hurling our own rocks. Meanwhile back at his "desert ranch" he's probably laffing his .... off at what he managed to do again. I love these forums. I love what they stand for. And I love you guys....but I'm getting older by the second...and my days are numbered anyway. I'm not wasting any more energy here. I'm not going to take part, nor stand by and let the rest of you rip the heart out these forums (even though I know that's your intention)...but it will happen unless everybody stops it....but we can't stop it, because when we see stuff that's wrong, we cannot let it slip by when it happens again and again and again untill we are all nauseous from it. If I remember correctly - One of the things that God hates is One who sow's dischord among the brethren, and I believe that Rocky is doing that, furthermore I believe he's doing in intentionally for his own purposes. Elect a new shaver for THE - and let my butterfly go to the highest bidder. I don't have so many days left to my life that I can sit here and watch while this thread continues like this ad nauseum. "As much as lieth in you - live peaceably with thine neighbor" "In as much as ye have done it unto the least of these, my servants, ye have done it unto me" I'm outta here krys

The reason he chose Excathedra was that he knew she had a history of bad blood with vpw and that most posters also know this. He was discussing it in THAT context of apology...not because she was being singled out. Here is his entire post from March 3 (page 7 of this thread):

Right on White Dove. About my war analogy: I have no idea what started it, or who, if anyone bears the fault alone....but at the present time, it is like Rocky has his radar out full force searching for Zix (who seems to not want to engage....but will if provoked) in the sub. Whenever he thinks he may be close enough, it seems like Rocky lobs the debth charges out hoping to shake the sub apart. Zixar seems to be maneuvering for a position to stay out of the fracus if he can, but yet remain close enough to launch a defensive torpedo if all else fails. That's how I think about it now. And it seems to me that Rocky doesn't care who gets hurt with fallout, but that Zixar in the main is trying to prevent it. I don't like it. It's wrong to keep badgering Pawtucket to try to wear him down. It's wrong for Rocky to call Zix every name in the book. If you get yourself banned from the (sometimes) volatile Political forum, you don't go trying to stir up some volatility somewhere else. That's wrong too. I'm not inside Rocky's mind so I can't immagine what he's thinking....but from where I sit, it seems he likes to stir up trouble as a means of communicating with or debating somebody intelligent who has something he's willing to stand up for. I don't think Rocky's pozzzezzed, I think he lives for the thrill of the chase if he can start one up. And I also think it's very harmful to the forums as a whole. He doesn't seem to want to listen to reason, or abide by the rules...so I guess the only thing left is to ignore him, as if he were a troll. [at this point, that's what I think Zixar is doing but Rocky seems relentless in his persuit]

Yes, ExCathy I think this is a war. I wasn't aware of its beginning or who started what...I have know idea about that. But what I see now is as if we're in a WWII movie and Zix in in the submarine trying to evade the enemy, the big boat on the surface tossing depth charges. No matter what the sub does.....it's only a matter of time until those depth charges get thrown overboard and start shaking things up again. And whenever the sub tries to launch a torpedo it either narrowly misses, or otherwise seems to be of no avail. And I don't think Zixar is rude, I think he's short in his answers because he's so tired of all this krapp.

Excie - Everybody likes to be liked, and most of us feel bad if somebody says they don't "particularly like us". It's a shame that Zixar selected your name out of the list of recent posters to use as an example to illustrate his point. Because of things in my background, I am very aware of people pulling strings, collectively and individually to set up circumstances around me to fall the way they intended. I was in the midst of a war, and I knew it. That's over now, but the memory reminds me that I was very careful about what I said and did around folks I didn't know well...or....those with a background or list of activities that were significantly different from mine JUST because it was important for me to NOT appear to form alliances just for the sake of support. I hope I wrote that in a way that it can be understood. The situation was highly polarized between myself and one or 2 others against another small (in number) but very powerful (in effect) group whose intents were 180 degrees apart from mine (ours). (whew - seem like forever writing that - but there IS a reason for it) The reason I wrote it out like that is, during that particular war-type situation, I would have said something similar to what Zixar said to you...NOT to put you down, but to be sure that everyone who came along could NOT mistake my statements or actions as one who was "proselytizing" for a cause. I definitely understand why you get what you "get" out of it, but I think, in this case, you are making more out of it than is really there.

I wonder if it may be tied into circadian rhythms in some way. We know they exist in humans, and in fact those on zocor and the like are usually informed to take it in the evening because that is when it is most effective on the liver. One of the ways that growers of ornamental plants can "force" or retard the flowering process is by altering the length of daylight and dark periods. Bees do seem to have a way to tell time, and if you move a hive across several time zones, they go "nuts" in their activity periods, but eventually settle down to "normal" in the new time zone. How do bees do this? Many larger animals seem to have their estrus or fertility cycles timed to the decreasing length of daylight hours. I can't explain how they do this...just as I can't explain why horseshoe crabs come out of the water to mate and lay eggs at special high tides...really - they live at the bottom of the ocean - how do they "know". I suspect there is much to learn here about all these things. These rhythms definitely appear to have a master clock of some sort, but scientists don't really know what it is. But I don't believe that when we see things related to full moons that we are crazy or reading into things something which is not there. There is too much we don't know about it to say "there is no connection" out of hand. But, of course, that is my opinion - tempered by what I believe to be true about the natural world.

I seem to be speaking in a sealed room...and only kindred spirits hear. I sit in such a comfortable chair thinking about it. Re-experiencing what I've learned and enjoying that experience again. Some of what's been shared here I intuitively understand and accept already as truth...whether I knew if before this evening or not doesn't concern me, but I may have. I must now go back and study in a book I've hardly ever opened before. It's not just that I want it, I need it. I really must have more. I used to wonder if some of the experiences I've had I really had or if I was merely hallucinating. Now I know I wasn't hallucinating. Post on - please - as time and energy allow.

I learn something interesting every day on these foums!

IMHO Rocky doesn't seem like he is going to make an apology. Let's just let this thread slide away into "oblivion" and let it rest. Maybe changes are taking place that we can't see...maybe there won't be any outward signs, but that doesn't keep me from hoping. From experience, I do know that pride is a very difficult swallow.....and eating one's words is even worse than that. Been there...done that...got the tee shirt...and it hurt like he ll. Maybe something is going on out of sight, under the covers, so to speak. Let's just hope so and let this whole thing rest.