krys

Scalpers here do us moderate income folks in. That's the only explanation I can find for all 3 S$G concerts here in NJ being sold out 20 min after they were "officially" on sale. By that time all that was left was $125 for nosebleed seats...litterally the top 10 rows. I think my concert days are over....cd's for me. (not minding really...._

I enjoyed it too. Thank you.

We talk about the women who were abused in this inner circle...but what about their husbands. They suffered...and in some cases they suffered more. You can't possibly think it made them proud that their wives were selected by the MOG or his committee for sex - or do you?

amen mj!

Well. we know they have icewater in their veins, so I guess they must .... out ice-chunks...must be painful.

I enjoy the thought of those guys on a l-o-n-g boring stake out. I wonder if the're wearing Depends so they don't have to leave the car when nature calls. I wonder what it's like to sit in that clammy wetness waiting for the "prey" to make a move.

Maybe that's what it will take! He might just like the feel of these better than the diapers. Diapers have to be the pits for a kidlet his age...he's probably walk a whole lot better without all that bunching between his legs. I wonder what would happen if you offered hem a choice?

Radar - there is so much more lurking just beneath the surface that I justa dont have the courage to tell at the moment. How about the alcoholic in my twig who was raked over the coals when he fell off the wagon soon into AA. Is there any kind of addict - addicted to any substance to pulls it off - getting clean - the first time with no slips? Was there any lovingkindness to help him get back on track? He was just a simple believer....and he was ground into dust. He would have been better off if he hadn't even tried. But there was in the same state a bigwig who was also an alcoholic who had folks running interference for him and covering all his "mistakes" caused by his drunkenness....and he was still around until he was re-located shortly before I left.

In '98 when my son was kicked out with his wife...she was castigated for talking about her liasons with lcm. My son stood up in lcm's office and ripped him a new one. After that....they offerred him a nice neat position at HQ during interum year - a change in assignment just a few weeks before the fact - because they were grooming them for something much bigger and both kids knew it. The only condition was that my son would have to put up with the adultery and preferably become a part of it, that was part of the deal. There was another couple involved. The husband was at the Advanced Class helping and the wife was back in Gunnison with the children. They sent this gent back to Gunnison by local Grayhound Bus! Meanwhile they got to his wife and told her whatever would twist her head around so that she and the children would stay in. They removed him...and kept her and gave her all kinds of preferential treatment. During those times...the terms "unequally yoked together" were catchphrases and people were frequently encouraged to divorce their "unbelieving" spouse and stay with the Household. To the best of my knowledge she never heard the truth about the situation. . . . . Once again...what's Godly here? The household is elevated about the commands of God. A few individuals act as if they are God Almighty making decisions for people without anybody's knowledge or consent. Keeping their inner circle intact is the name of the game. Whether it's expensive suits, adultery, special favors....for the inner circle. Whatever suited them somehow became "The Word of the Lord" via the mouth of the MOG. . . . . I remember sitting in the Anniversary hookup - whatever year that was - when it was announced that the Word was over the World....and as I heard the new stuff coming down and I just knew it was all bad. Even though I didn't know about the adultry stuff at the time.

I should probably stay off this thread...I've posted so much already - - But I would like to suggest that if you've been struggling with this for a while, as it seems....just back off and give it a rest. Resist every temptation to say anything about it...and look for "currency" - - something he wants or wants to do that he doesn't have now. Try to wait until he brings up the subject...and then nonchelantly (sp) pounce on the idea. I don't personally know of any child who trained unless he first decided for himself it was a good idea.

When I said I wanted my son to do the whole job himself, I meant it. I didn't even go in the bathroom with him. He knew the drill. I think he wanted privacy in there. Also - the morning he had breakfast early with Dad - Dad put him on his step stool and showed him he didn't have to get all undressed....he could just stand there and let it fly....and told him how lucky he was to be a boy because girls had to get undressed and get cold on their legs and sit down to do the deed. Also - my kidlet did not like sitting on the toilet frontwards...sat himself backwards...I think he felt safer 'cause he could hold on. And every one of these stinkers (to quote shell) is different. My daugther was slightly under 2 and she had a close-nit group of friends (4 or 5) whose mothers (3 of us) trusted each other and would take turns supervising the girls and doling out snacks....sometimes even lunch. She was the youngest of the group and one day while over one of their houses, 2 of them went to use the bathroom at the same time...and one of them told my kidlet that it could be her turn if she wanted...so mine decided to be just like the others. And it worked. The mother put the dry diaper in a paper bag to bring home and qickly put on fancy ruffled underpants which my kid promised not to spoil. Then she called me and told me. In this case it was peer pressure and the kidlet was just about ready...although at night I used a diaper for several weeks because she wasn't that ready! Besides she was a peanut at the time...I figured how big could her bladder be?

Anything that a child really wants, is a reward. And how much hard did a couple of handfuls of peanut butter M$M's over the course of a week do to her? nada! People who write bookd don't know what they're talking about. All the ones I read said bowels movements were easier to train than urine and would come first. Every kid I know of first peed in the appropriate space and shortly thereafter pooped too. And once they get it - they've got it. No muss no fuss!

I have heard of a book called "Potty Training in Just One Day". My neighbor down the street used it with her Downs' Syndrom daughter and she was trained in 1 day - - before my kid! (they were 6 weeks apart)

I used bribery. Out and out bribary. I was pushing my uncooperative (in potty training) toddling son in a basket in a toy store. He was into guns and holsters...wild west stuff...hats chapps - the whole shebang. He saw a cowboy set with 2 guns and holsters and wanted same. Brilliant idea flashed through my mind. Right then and there I said no way. (It was cool Fall weather) - - because of all that was involved in changing his pants. First take off his coat...then the guns and holsters...then take his pants off...then change the diaper - then put pants on....etc...step by step. I told him he wouldn't have time to play outside with the stuff with all that. I promised that when he could do the whole job all by himself, I would get him what he weanted. When we got home he ran right into his room and tried to get out of his pants...and diaper. I heard him rumbling around in there and went in...he pulled off his shoes and opened his drawer for his "big boy underwear" and put them on. I tried to pull them off reminding him that he couldn't wear them because of all the times he wet them and soiled them, I didn't think he was ready. He complained....so I said something like "suit yourself" and he put everything back on...more or less correctly, but it was late in the afternoon and not a time to go out. He scrambled down the hall just in time to pee that evening...and managed it himself. I fought to put the diaper on at night but he would have none of it saying he wouldn't be wet in the morning. (I thought yeah - right) Before we went to bed, we brought him to the bathroom to empty his bladder....and he was sound asleep immediately when he was back in bed. In the morning I didn't hear him playing in his crib....he had already gotten up...went to the bathroom and was sitting in the kitchen with his father having breakfast by the time I got there. Dad said son was up and climbed out of his crib and down the hall to pee while he was in the shower. He did everything, all by himself all day....poops too. That evening after he went to sleep in his underpants, I drove to the store and got the set! A promise is a promise! It wasn't important enough to him....as long as he had the diaper...he was busy playing and doing stuff....why bother.....and I figured he knew everything well enough in advance.....he just needed an incentive. Not one accident after that. The next weekend we took the crib apart and bought him a regular bed! I know - I was bad...bribery is not good! [holding out wrist for somebody to slap real hard]

Did you mean who?

I'm nibbling on it!

Did I just see "self respect" in the same sentence as "Donna Martindale"? What's wrong with THIS picture?

I'm so glad we were here for you.

jen-o It the very top of this page - and all the others here too....you'll see a series of blue tabs...go - new - find - notify - etc. Click on "go" then on "my space" thin on "rivate messaging" and you get to all the private topics you've been invited to....and you can start some of your own. It took me a while to figure it out! mrys

Having free will means we can change our minds! It deinitely is an us thing. I remember what we used to call "The Great Principle" - but I believe that this one is correct. I'll have to paraphrase because I'm not certain I can quote it perfectly: God's spirit teaches His creation in you (which is now your unique spirit)and your spirit teaches your mind. There have been many times when I've been pondering a difficult situation. You know the kind of thing that absorbs all of you thinking...it's always there...under the surface. Then, I remember something...the piece that finishes the puzzle. It was something I knew but forgot about...and "all of a sudden" it pops into the front of my mind.

How did you find this out? I'd like to know some of your sources - this way - I'm not only reading words, I'm understanding the intent behind them. That would save me a whole lotta trouble.

This story was just on the 5:00 o'clock news. It turns out that all the men who were detained and questioned had expired visa from Syria. They had expired visas......and they let them go! Gimme a break!!!!

It's good for me - but I can adjust the size in my browser so that may not be fair!

You're not alone Tom.

yepper - - oops