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God God loves you my dear friends Lets talk about the seed of the devil or what it may be. The words “Children of the devil” is used in John 8:44 but how are they children of the devil John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Lets think back Adam was born son of God and God began to raise Adam with love but the devil trick Adam unto following him I would say that the devil kidnap Adam and he lived by the flesh from then on which is what the devil is Adam was created in the image of God but the devil was created in the image of flesh Now Adam had a flesh side and an spirit side but his spirit image die and he live with an dead spiritual image but an living flesh image Yes Adam became only that which can be seen and not longer greater than flesh kind but less than because he lost his leadership and past it over to the devil Now some say animals can not live forever but I never read that but for them to rise after death it must be in the image of flesh Spirit rises spirit and flesh rises flesh But lets move on John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. Did we once walk in darkness and is not the devil being called darkness but there are many verses on darkness and here are a few John 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. John 1246 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Turn us from being children of darkness unto children of light Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Cast off the fleshly things and put on the spiritual things 2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? What fellowship have children of the devil with children of light Ephesians 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Once you were children of darkness but now you are children of light Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Yes we wrestle against the image of the dead spirit we were in the past the image of fleshly things Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 1 John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 1 John 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. There are many verses on darkness to help us understand Here more to think about in the Old Testament the children that long after God were over shower by the light of God This was like a show were there is a spot light the actor is lighted by the spot light but the actor can walk out side the spot light and the more distance he gets from it the less people can see him In O.T. they were dark inside with light of God over showering them and they were clean from outside in but we are clean from inside out I would say children of God were kidnap by the devil until they call God to free them But in O.T. they would go back to live with their kidnaper the devil Now God free them with holy spirit upon them Now today we are free by Jesus Christ now we can still call the fleshly side of darkness but we can never be kidnap again just some thinking on this subject with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first God loves all of yall thanks so much for I have been reading thinking about things with love and an holy kiss Roy
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The Way said that there are 900 promises in "God's word"
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first God bless you all And thank you all for I have been blessed reading your loving post one after the other I learn some things as I hope we all did with love and an holy kiss Roy -
God first Ok friends here it goes The Way said that there are 900 promises in "God's word" but are there really 900 What about 878 promises or 911 promises Have they ever name all of the promises The first would be love then there would be life and death then there be love then there be ever lasting life or ever lasting death then there be love I believe love covers them all but it seems like the Way thinks each one is differ but are they or are they just differ ways love is put in action and the differ reasons Now I would love to see a list if there is one or at least hear whether there one or not with holy holy love of the true father-mother God and with a spiritual kiss of love Roy
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God first Beloved friends Why does the Way and other Churches need headquarters? They say they are like the first centry Church but I read about no headquarters in the bible in the NT They went out from house to house and had no need of HQ's because they were too busy to God's work one on one I think HQ is just a way to take more money from the young belivers by evil But what do you think with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved friends I see alot of talk about Cain being son of the devil or seed and that people are born of the devil The truth is we were all born into darkness but the differ comes in OT when they choice by their free will to live under the light of God holy spirit upon Now they were still born unto the devil and children of darkness but my living by the spirit of God upon on them being saved became something to reach for Now as long as they stray within the household of God's love they were God's by their hope of the first coming of Jesus Christ And that why so many graves were open and that is who the 24 elders are in Revelation For they reach for the first coming and were saved by it if they lived with holy spirit upon them But if they talk outside God's wall of love the devil had power to do to them as he wish Now because they were of darkness first they still would die because darkness can not be made light but they must be made new by ( life for a life which remade them from darkness to light ) For they were born in flesh with is what the devil is He is soul life in OT because he trick Adam into being body, and soul with an dead spirit What are devils nothing but flesh of body and soul whether animal life or man life with dead spirit no hope and not under the living spirit of God in OT and not born unto a living spirit in NT You see we where born into darkness but we choice to be saved by Jesus Christ giving us a body, soul, and living spirit You say then what are devil spirits they are the evil desires of man, or animal From germ life to a bad person Jesus Christ talk to the evil germ which was a cell of the flesh But once you are born of God you can not get possed because you have a living spirit but your flesh can still get attack by fire-ly darts known as evil animals Like an evil germ which causes sickness and then death Like an evil animal or person that may bite or kill you by an attack this is the best I can do will try to help with any problems you may see unclear with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved JSamuel It seems like you are mad at something that ok but your words are very foolish my dear friend Can you find a just jury anywhere in the World I would say with boldness No because most people judge by feelings not by what is right and just Now let me add if you had read the book of "The Letter of Pontius Pilate, Which He Wrote to the Roman Emperor, Concerning our Lord Jesus Christ." It would tell how they had told a lie and that there was no reason to kill Jesus Christ This was the judge himself and there are notes from both judges that tell about the same story Yes its ok that you turn the bible around but you can not turn the writtens of the judge around that agree with the bible that the wittness were false About Jesus Saving himself he could of called 12 legions of angels within seconds You say Jesus did this or that but my bible has no verse in the gospel to what you say Yes even a fool counts has a fool but how do you want to count has foolish or has a beliver This is why I call your words foolish and very unwise But do not give up just do more research and this time you may see the greatness of Jesus Christ But as this is enough for now with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved friends As I read things like because God did not put it all in book they do not believe in him What foolish reason because I never heard of a teacher teaching every part of any given subjest in one lesson They teach it as you are ready to receive it and most good teachers leave parts out hoping you will ask questions If an teacher does not have to give you all the details in one lesson nor does God God wants us to think as does good teachers Yes God wants us to work to understand because he wants us to learn People do not ready learn getting all things up front of them but they learn by putting in the time God wants us to build realship with him one on one About dinosaurs they are still living today and the first one came on the fifth day 4003 BC Because some man say there bones are older than the earth means nothing Let me say how many times have men change their views the earth was flat and then round and now more egg shape Cancer is caused by this or that for it changes from time to time If any one wants any answer just go to God one on one Because I have and will kept going Now no one has to believe in God for me to love them But if you speak your reasons at least tell the truth which would you just choice not to believe every time I see someone try to prove the bible wrong they just make themself look like fools even the man who saids we came from Apes he still has the problem of were Apes came from but as for me I know were all things came from God my father-mother of heaven I guess that is enough and I hope there are no hard feeling and all so sorry for derailing this tread with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved Research Geek Yes I am one that has forgave men like LCM and others Now I still point out the evil of the Way but I have long forgave them all with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved Dmiller Yes it should read 10. How many people believe we can not talk with Jesus Christ himself one on one You see I do talk with Jesus Christ one on one with love and an holy kiss Roy All so note no 8. ------------------------------------------ 8. I many believe that the Way only have the way to heaven (ha ha I bet few still believe this one) -------------------------------------------- It should read 8. How many believe that the Way only have the way to heaven (ha ha I bet only few still believe this one) with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first and foremost Beloved Eagle you ask -------------------------------------------------- just need to know. How many still believe the following: 1: There were "four" others crucified with Christ. 2: Peter denied Jesus "Six" times. 3: The devil can really "get people born again" of him (seed of the serpent). 4. That Christians, with holy spirit within, can get possessed and taken over by devil spirits, including taking over the holy spirit within. I'd be interested in your thoughts on these topics. ---------------------------------------------- Ok the first 1. not sure about this anymore because some of some of the books I read that did not make it in the bible ---talking about they cast the same in his teeth being others along side with the one robber or evil doer 2. about Peter denied six times never read anything saying he did not but I ready to hear how one would belive he did not denied Jesus etc times 3. ok yes the devil can not get people born again of him because We were all born in the flesh or into darkness 4. Yes an beliver can not get possessed because the table has turn were we no longer have spirit upon but spirit in But can get add 5. how many believe we can only prophecy when in a group of three or more 6. how many believe the bible is the only writtens of God 7. how many believe the law of believing is spiritual while we do it by action (what is spiritual is the law of trust God to do what he said) 8. I many believe that the Way only have the way to heaven (ha ha I bet few still believe this one) 9. How many still believe we will miss the trumps of God in Revelation (last trump means last after first) 10. I still believe we can not talk with Jesus Christ himself just for fun with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God Beloved GeorgeStGeorge thanks I enjoy ypur understanding and The Evan differ view and Raf addon But what if both are right or what if the bible was wrote were the Belivers seen one dept of it greateness while the unbeliever only saw surface meaning And they we are the views of them who live under the law and the ones still making up their minds It like when I see a piece of wood I just see a piece of wood but when a carpenter see it he may see a chair that he can make from the wood You see the bible is just words under our spirit the Christ in us shows us its greatness more like the wood is just wood until the carpenter shows us what it can become or its deep value just talking our loud with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved Sky4it thanks again but I am not Catholic but I have a lot of Catholic friends Now this last few years I have jump from church to church to learn and met belivers of all walks I grow up in The First Christian Church than the Way Ministry came and since the Way I have been feeling myself as part of all churches with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Beloved Sky4it Thanks I love that with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Hi Beloved SelahV Now yes God loves you and if your doing somthing wrong I do not know but what I can say is bad things happen to me too Now I never give up and than after a while they all ways get better if I am patiance with God We seem to want every thing now but we all ways have to learn to tust him to take care of the need in due time Now yes things can come too you fast you have come to a place where you can find healing tell others of your needs in prayer and you will receive it prayer help with love and an holy kiss Roy
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God first Hi Beloved Abigail Keep on teaching because I love to hear the truth about great men like Job Now I know he was real but can not prove it but who can prove that this board is not a dream they have every night with love and an holy kiss Roy
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A very different method of study
year2027 replied to Abigail's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Hi Beloved Abigail Thanks again because I love to debate the word with allmost anybody What ever it takes to get to the truth with love and an holy kiss Roy -
God first Hi Beloved Abigail Thanks that has blessed my day with love and an holy kiss Roy
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Why doesn't God speak to us more often?
year2027 replied to sky4it's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God First Hi Beloved friends Yes Abigail is right God and Jesus Christ are allways speaking to us either by words or feeling or any other way they use We just live at a fast run and do not take time to listen to them Just like when driving how must natural do you miss But when you stop to enjoy natural you even see the ant working hard to get a job done It all about slowing down our lives so we can enjoy the full love of God and the full power of the gift of Christ in us with love and an holy kiss Roy -
God first Hi Beloved CKnapp3 Sorry I just had the ideal it was your quote from another place the way he wrote it sorry but I still like it with love Roy Hi Beloved DMiller good quote sorry I miss understood with love Roy
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God first Hi Beloved friend I like that quote CKnapp3 --- What goes up, must come down! but let me add when our seed is put in our mother it comes out WE call that birth some live some not but its still comes out So when we are put in this fleshly earth by a spiritual father/mother our God we must come out of this fleshly world unto a spiritual one either spiritual life or spiritual death So what goes in the ground must come out at the return of Christ Now there be debates on when and how but the main point is it must come out of the ground even it as part of a tree or plant than ate my an animal and put back into the ground the are many turns in things from life to dust to life from flesh to spirit but when Christ kills death than it will end with spirit I hope you can make some sence of this with love Roy
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God first Beloved Abigail thanks with love Roy
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God Hi All ----------------------------------------------- THE LOST GOSPEL ACCORDING TO PETER [in the valley of the Upper Nile, on the right bank of the river, is the mysterious town of Akhmim. It was called Panopolis in ancient times when it was the capital af the district. The remnants of monasteries and the ruins of temples mark the intellectual life of a former day. In 1816, the French Achseological Mission excavating in the grave of a monk, came upon a parchment codex. Six years later a translation of this was published in the Memoirs of the French Archaological Mission at Cairo. Scholars realized for the first time that a striking discovery, possibly of overwhelming importance, had been made. A portion of The Gospel According to Peter appeared to have been restored to the Christian Community after having been lost for ages. But until now, this document has never been made available to the general public. Centuries rolled over that remote tomb at Akhmim, while nations rose and fell, wars blasted civilization, science metamorphosed the world, Shakespeares and Miltons wrote their names and passed on, the American nation was born and grew up -all the while the ink on the parchment in that Egyptian tomb was scarcely changing - and the beautiful words of this Scripture were preserving for us this version of the most tragic and momentous event in history. That briefly is the romance of The Lost Gospel According to Peter. Such a gospel was referred to by Serapion, Bishop of Antioch, In 190 A.u.; Origen, historian, in 253 A.D.; Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea in 300 A.D.; Theodoret in 455 in his Religious History said that the Nazarenes used The Gospel According to Peter; and Justin Martyr includes the Memoirs of Peter in his "Apostolic Memoirs." Thus scholars have always recognized that such a document existed long ago, although its where abouts and fate were a mystery until the discovery at Akhmim. 1 BUT of the Jews none washed his hands, neither Herod nor any one of his judges. And when they had refused to wash them, Pilate rose up. And then Herod the king commandeth that the Lord be taken saying to them, What things soever I commanded you to do unto him, do. 2 And there was standing there Joseph the friend of Pilate and of the Lord; and, knowing that they were about to crucify him, he came to Pilate and asked the body of the Lord for burial. And Pilate sent to Herod and asked his body. And Herod said, Brother Pilate, even if no one has asked for him, we purposed to bury him, especially as the sabbath draweth on: for it is written in the law, that the sun set not upon one that hath been put to death. 3 And he delivered him to the people on the day before the unleavened bread, their feast. And they took the Lord and pushed him as they ran, and said, Let us drag away the Son of God, having obtained power over him. And they clothed him with purple, and set him on the seat of judgment, saying, Judge righteously, 0 king of Israel. And one of them brought a crown of thorns and put it on the head of the Lord. And others stood and spat in his eyes, and others smote his cheeks: others pricked him with a reed; and some scourged him, saying, With this honor let us honor the Son of God. 4 And they brought two malefactors, and they crucified the Lord between them. But he held his peace, as though having no pain. And when they had raised the cross, they wrote the title: This is the king of Israel . And having set his garments before him they parted them among them, and cast lots for them. And one of those malefactors reproached them, saying, We for the evils that we have done have suffered thus, but this man, who hath become the Saviour of men, what wrong hath he done to you? And they, being angered at him, commanded that his legs should not be broken, that he might die in torment. 5 And it was noon, and darkness came over all Judaea: and they were troubled and distressed, lest the sun had set, whilst he was yet alive:[for] it is written for them, that the sun set not on him that hath been put to death. And one of them said, Give him to drink gall with vinegar. And they mixed and gave him to drink, and fulfilled all things, and accomplished their sins against their own head. And many went about with lamps, supposing that it was night, and fell down. And the Lord cried out, saying, My power, my power, thou hast forsaken me. And when he had said it he was taken up. And in that hour the vail of the temple of Jerusalem was rent in twain. 6 And then they drew out the nails from the hands of the Lord, and laid him upon the earth, and the whole earth quaked, and great fear arose. Then the sun shone, and it was found the ninth hour: and the Jews rejoiced, and gave his body to Joseph that he might bury it , since he had seen what good things he had done. And he took the Lord, and washed him, and rolled him in a linen cloth, and brought him to his own tomb, which was called the Garden of Joseph. 7 Then the Jews and the elders and the priests, perceiving what evil they had done to themselves, began to lament and to say, Woe for our sins: the judgment hath drawn nigh, and the end of Jerusalem. And I with my companions was grieved; and being wounded in mind we hid ourselves: for we were being sought for by them as malefactors, and as wishing to set fire to the temple. And upon all these things we fasted and sat mourning and weeping night and day until the sabbath. 8 But the scribes and Pharisees and elders being gathered together one with another, when they heard that all the people murmured and beat their breasts saying, If by his death these most mighty signs have come to pass, see how righteous he is, -the elders were afraid and came to Pilate beseeching him and saying, Give us soldiers, that we may guard his sepulchre for three days, lest his disciples come and steal him away, and the people suppose that he is risen from the dead and do us evil. And Pilate gave them Petronius the centurion with soldiers to guard the tomb. And with them came elders and scribes to the sepulchre, and having rolled a great stone together with the centurion and the soldiers, they all together who were there set it at the door of the sepulchre; and they affixed seven seals, and they pitched a tent there and guarded it. And early in the morning as the sabbath was drawing on, there came a multitude from Jerusalem and the region round about, that they might see the sepulchre that was sealed. 9 And in the night in which the Lord's day was drawing on, as the soldiers kept guard two by two in a watch, there was a great voice in the heaven; and they saw the heavens opened, and two men descend from thence with great light and approach the tomb. And that stone which was put at the door rolled of itself and made way in part; and the tomb was opened, and both the young men entered in. 10 When therefore those soldiers saw it, they awakened the centurion and the elders; for they too were hard by keeping guard. And as they declared what things they had seen, again they see three men come forth from the tomb, and two of them supporting one, and a cross following them: and of the two the head reached unto the heaven, but the head of him who was lead by them overpassed the heavens. And they heard a voice from the heavens, saying, Thou hast preached to them that sleep. And a response was heard from the cross, Yea. 11 They therefore considered one with another whether to go away and shew these things to Pilate. And while they yet thought thereon, the heavens again are seen to open, and a certain man to descend and enter into the sepulchre. When the centurion and they that were with him saw these things, they hastened in the night to Pilate, leaving the tomb which they were watching, and declared all things which they had seen, being greatly distressed and saying, Truly he was the Son of God. Pilate answered and said, I am pure from the blood of the Son of God: but it was ye who determined this. Then they all drew near and besought him and entreated him to command the centurion and the soldiers to say nothing of the things which they had seen: For it is better, say they, for us to be guilty of the greatest sin before God, and not to fall into the hands of the people of the Jews and to be stoned. Pilate therefore commanded the centurion and the soldiers to say nothing. 12 And at dawn upon the Lord's day Mary Magdalene, a disciple of the Lord, fearing because of the Jews, since they were burning with wrath, had not done at the Lord's sepulchre the things which women are wont to do for those that die and for those that are beloved by them -- she took her friends with her and came to the sepulchre where he was laid. And they feared lest the Jews should see them, and they said, Although on that day on which he was crucified we could not weep and lament, yet now let us do these things at his sepulchre. But who shall roll away for us the stone that was laid at the door of the sepulchre, that we may enter in and sit by him and do the things that are due? For the stone was great, and we fear lest some one see us. And if we cannot, yet if we but set at the door the things which we bring as a memorial of him, we will weep and lament, until we come unto our home. 13 And, they went and found the tomb opened, and coming near they looked in there; and they see there a certain young man sitting in the midst of the tomb, beautiful and clothed in a robe exceeding bright; who said to them, Wherefore are ye come? Whom seek ye? Him that was crucified? He is risen and gone. But if ye believe not, look in and see the place where he lay, that he is not [here] ; for he is risen and gone thither, whence he was sent . Then the women feared and fled. 14 Now it was the last day of the unleavened bread, and many were going forth, returning to their homes, as the feast was ended. But we, the twelve disciples of the Lord, wept and were grieved: and each one, being grieved for that which was come to pass, departed to his home. But I Simon Peter and Andrew my brother took our nets and went to the sea; and there was with us Levi the son of Alphaeus, whom the Lord . . . . . . . ... ---------------------------------- with love Roy
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1/3rd VS 2/3rds ???
year2027 replied to TheSongRemainsTheSame's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Hi All A site that makes one think of the diff between good and bad angels http://www.tfp.org/TFPForum/Tendential_Rev...rdian_angel.htm Now this site made not go into it deep enought but it may get you to think with love Roy -
God first Hi All I understand that John Lynn and CES has a job to do in the household but is not part of that job to love all believers alike Look John Lynn began a tread here either to send his love or to build up his personal church I would hope to send his love but as of so far he still on post 1 I seen no reply-s yet Why are we not good enought to stop by and at least say thanks for you imput but I am not into debating my views But why is he right and all others wrong No he just like the rest of us He has things right and things wrong And if you are looking for the truth you look everywhere even this dark corner called Gease Spot Cafe But I personal think there a lot of truth here he and me and others can learn from I have email asking him to at least say hi once in a while its only the loving thing At times I all most think he afraid of us like the Way is afraid to even post a email address Now John gives his but he only answers who he see fix Now I see John and CES as loving people trying to help but they step in to help but have they ran away or will they come back with love Roy