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God first Beloved David Anderson I loved your post but have not read all the replies yet but look forward to reading them soon I love to look for truth in everywhere I can find it and understanding the man and his horse in the way God meant it helps I believe the word of God is written in many things from the right way to love a horse into winning a race to the right way into being more healthly I have been drinking more and more water and less and less dirty waters like cokes and etc Oxygen is a big thing I see whether it be in the water or how we breath the air I just seem to look for truth everywhere and its a trip I enjoy taking with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Cindy I understand your heart But English is my first and only language but my written kills are poor at times But I am very simple person with poor gramer I read things like the bible and at times I seem to talk King James English As to a point for the tread I am not sure is there is one here But what I trying to put is an answer to what was wrote there for the few who are their and here both Since my answer was not posted there I posted it here for the few that may care But if this does not help maybe this was the wrong thing to do posting it maybe it been better for me to just move on I guess I am just putting aside that place like I did with the Way It just one of those things I am not sure how to put in words I know you are not making fun of me but trying to understand but I am not able to help There are times I do not understand myself and I came to see this is part of life Its like when I was young I did not understand why Christ had to die to save me but now I do But I may not be able to explain it for some with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Cindy and others It began when I sign by name with "with love and an holy kiss" I was called names there but that was ok but when people from this board try to calm the sea of name calling They were called names too There rules read that personal attacks would be stop in Yahoo The Way Were I was personal attack and others that try to help me were too Now last night I got a note out in the open of the list from one that saids they see that rules are follower Yes I answer name calling with teachings but that is me But in that note I was told to stop preachimg or teaching but to keep loving and being myself Now how can I be myself if my life falls around God and his love with every word I write speak seem like a teaching You are what you put on Now if you never been there you may not understand but at least I did try to explain I hope I did not do this post to fight with them but to at least be faithful the ones who saw it all happen You see I am fleshly too so I not sure why I wrote this 100 percent but I know my mind told me it was right Maybe it was wrong maybe not with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Seth R. It may of been around a long time but why would I care I am no longer part of that list and see no value in it But this post was not to talk about the rules but to tell some that might be part of both why I have left there You see my life is all about God What is this about which you wrote "you're in for a very rude awakening." I am not afraid of name calling, rude people and others things It gets down to if they are afraid of my answer I will send it to the few that matters my friends who went their from here like I did We answer a add But we found the rules are more pure here so we came back here were there is more of a balance of things with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Vickles Thanks for helping me get the right name sorry Paw for calling you Pax And I wish you Vickles a merry Hoilday and hope Santa brings all you ask him for with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved All Just for the few who go there and want to know what my answer is to them Were here is it but they would not post it I only posting it here because of the few that have try to take up for me there when I attacked against there own rules so here it is ---------------------------------------- God first Beloved All As I read post on this board Robin ask me not to preach and next minute she saids do it What does she think true love comes from ? For it comes from God or she could want me fleshly love her and others No way they may not all be clean and I am not into guys that way What I am is one who only puts on God's things because that the only reason I come is too help But let me all so tell others if there is no preaching there is not pray but I will break that one too and pray for you all Now some seem to want to attack others with evil words but is not allowed with the rules But you think its ok Here what will happen someday when someone says a evil post like that and its send Yahoo they may close this board But do not look for me because I will will run or change so you better just kick me out with love and an holy kiss Roy PS I will post this on other boards too as to what my answer is if its edit ---------------------------------------- Now I hope after this answer to them is run Pax will delete it I all so thank PAX for runing a board that has help my life and wish all here a Merry Christmas

God What is a Virgin in God’s Eyes Beloved All We begin to read Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Luke 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. Ok we are talking about Mary and her son Jesus Christ but what kind of virgin was she Some Churches teach that in Eastern customs one is a virgin until she has gave birth to her first child So if this is true than there are virgins that have been with man but are there one’s that have never known man in the love making way For this we go back to Genesis Gen 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up. This virgin had never known man at all but what kind was Mary While some churches claim she might of known men but the child was of her and God But that personal views and we want the truth For this we go to “The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary” lets look The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary - 1 Chapter 1 .--The blessed and glorious ever-virgin Mary, sprung from the royal stock and family of David, born in the city of Nazareth, was brought up at Jerusalem in the temple of the Lord. Her father was named Joachim, and her mother Anna. Her father's house was from Galilee and the city of Nazareth, but her mother's family from Bethlehem. Their life was guileless and right before the Lord, and irreproachable and pious before men. For they divided all their substance into three parts. One part they spent upon the temple and the temple servants; another they distributed to strangers and the poor; the third they reserved, for themselves and the necessities of their family. Thus, dear to God, kind to men, for about twenty years they lived in their own house, a chaste married life, without having any children. Nevertheless they vowed that, should the Lord happen to give them offspring, they would deliver it to the service of the Lord; on which account also they used to visit the temple of the Lord at each of the feasts during the year. ( we get a little background on Mary here ) Chapter 2 .--And it came to pass that the festival of the dedication was at hand; wherefore also Joachim went up to Jerusalem with some men of his own tribe. Now at that time Issachar was high priest there. And when he saw Joachim with his offering among his other fellow- citizens, he despised him, and spurned his gifts, asking why he, who had no offspring, presumed to stand among those who had; saying that his gifts could not by any means be acceptable to God, since He had deemed him unworthy of off-spring: for the Scripture said, Cursed is every one who has not begot a male or a female in Israel. He said, therefore, that he ought first to be freed from this curse by the begetting of children; and then, and then only, that be should come into the presence of the Lord with his offerings. And Joachim, covered with shame from this reproach that was thrown in his teeth, retired to the shepherds, who were in their pastures with their flocks; nor would he return home, test perchance he might be branded with the same reproach by those of his own tribe, who were there at the time, and had heard this from the priest. Chapter 3 --Now, when he had been there for some time, on a certain day when he was alone, an angel of the Lord stood by him in a great light. And when he was disturbed at his appearance, the angel who had appeared to him restrained his fear, saying: Fear not, Joachim, nor be disturbed by my appearance; for I am the angel of the Lord, sent by Him to thee to tell thee that thy prayers have been heard, and that thy charitable deeds have gone up into His presence. For He hath seen thy shame, and hath heard the reproach of unfruitfulness which has been unjustly brought against thee. For God is the avenger of sin, not of nature: and, therefore, when He shuts up the womb of any one, He does so that He may miraculously open it again; so that that which is born may be acknowledged to be not of lust, but of the gift of God. For was it not the case that the first mother of your nation--Sarah--was barren up to her eightieth year? And, nevertheless, in extreme old age she brought forth Isaac, to whom the promise was renewed of the blessing of all nations. Rachel also, so favoured of the Lord, and so beloved by holy Jacob, was long barren; and yet she brought forth Joseph, who was not only the lord of Egypt, but the deliverer of many nations who were ready to perish of hunger. Who among the judges was either stronger than Samson, or more holy than Samuel? And yet the mothers of both were barren. If, therefore, the reasonableness of my words does not persuade thee, believe in fact that conceptions very late in life, and births in the case of women that have been barren, are usually attended with something wonderful. Accordingly thy wife Anna will bring forth a daughter to thee, and thou shall call her name Mary: she shall be, as you have vowed, consecrated to the Lord from her infancy, and she shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from her mother's womb. She shall neither eat nor drink any unclean thing, nor shall she spend her life among the crowds of the people without, but in the temple of the Lord, that it may not be possible either to say, or so much as to suspect, any evil concerning her. Therefore, when she has grown up, just as she herself shall be miraculously born of a barren woman, so in an incomparable manner she, a virgin, shall bring forth the Son of the Most High, who shall be called Jesus, and who, according to the etymology of His name, shall be the Saviour of all nations. And this shall be the sign to thee of those things which I announce: When thou shalt come to the Golden gate in Jerusalem, thou shalt there meet Anna thy wife, who, lately anxious from the delay of thy return, will then rejoice at the sight of thee. Having thus spoken, the angel departed from him. Chapter 4 --Thereafter he appeared to Anna his wife, saying: Fear not, Anna, nor think that it is a phantom which thou seest. For I am that angel who has presented your prayers and alms before God; and now have I been sent to you to announce to you that thou shalt bring forth a daughter, who shall be called Mary, and who shall be blessed above all women. She, full of the favour of the Lord even from her birth, shall remain three years in her father's house until she be weaned. Thereafter, being delivered to the service of the Lord, she shall not depart from the temple until she reach the years of discretion. There, in fine, serving God day and night in fastings and prayers, she shall abstain from every unclean thing; she shall never know man, but alone, without example, immaculate, uncorrupted, without intercourse with man, she, a virgin, shall bring forth a son; she, His hand-maiden, shall bring forth the Lord--both in grace, and in name, and in work, the Saviour of the world. Wherefore arise, and go up to Jerusalem; and when thou shalt come to the gate which, because it is plated with gold, is called Golden, there, for a sign, thou shalt meet thy husband, for whose safety thou hast been anxious. And when these things shall have so happened, know that what I announce shall without doubt be fulfilled. Chapter 5 --Therefore, as the angel had commanded, both of them setting out from the place where they were, went up to Jerusalem; and when they had come to the place pointed out by the angel's prophecy, there they met each other. Then, rejoicing at seeing each other, and secure in the certainty of the promised offspring, they gave the thanks due to the Lord, who exalteth the humble. And so, having worshipped the Lord, they returned home, and awaited in certainty and in gladness the divine promise. Anna therefore conceived, and brought forth a daughter; and according to the command of the angel, her parents called her name Mary. Chapter 6 --And when the circle of three years had rolled round, and the time of her weaning was fulfilled, they brought the virgin to the temple of the Lord with offerings. Now there were round the temple, according to the fifteen Psalms of Degrees, fifteen steps going up; for, on account of the temple having been built on a mountain, the altar of burnt-offering, which stood outside, could not be reached except by steps. On one of these, then, her parents placed the little girl, the blessed virgin Mary. And when they were putting off the clothes which they had worn on the journey, and were putting on, as was usual, others that were neater and cleaner, the virgin of the Lord went up all the steps, one after the other, without the help of any one leading her or lifting her, in such a manner that, in this respect at least, you would think that she had already attained full age. For already the Lord in the infancy of His virgin wrought a great thing, and by the indication of this miracle foreshowed how great she was to be. Therefore, a sacrifice having been offered according to the custom of the law, and their vow being perfected, they left the virgin within the enclosures of the temple, there to be educated with the other virgins, and themselves returned home. Chapter 7 --But the virgin of the Lord advanced in age and in virtues; and though, in the words of the Psalmist, her father and mother had forsaken her, the Lord took her up. For daily was she visited by angels, daily did she enjoy a divine vision, which preserved her from all evil, and made her to abound in all good. And so she reached her fourteenth year; and not only were the wicked unable to charge her with anything worthy of reproach, but all the good, who knew her life and conversation, judged her to be worthy of admiration. Then the high priest publicly announced that the virgins who were publicly settled in the temple, and had reached this time of life, should return home and get married, according to the custom of the nation and the ripeness of their years. (Look who why she got married) The others readily obeyed this command; but Mary alone, the virgin of the Lord, answered that she could not do this, saying both that her parents had devoted her to the service of the Lord, and that, moreover, she herself had made to the Lord a vow of virginity, which she would never violate by any intercourse with man. (LOOK) And the high priest, being placed in great perplexity of mind, seeing that neither did he think that the vow should be broken contrary to the Scripture, which says, Vow and pay, nor did he dare to introduce a custom unknown to the nation, gave order that at the festival, which was at hand, all the chief persons from Jerusalem and the neighbourhood should be present, in order that from their advice he might know what was to be done in so doubtful a case. And when this took place, they resolved unanimously that the Lord should be consulted upon this matter. And when they all bowed themselves in prayer, the high priest went to consult God in the usual way. Nor had they long to wait: in the hearing of all a voice issued from the oracle and from the mercy-seat, that, according to the prophecy of Isaiah, a man should be sought out to whom the virgin ought to be entrusted and espoused. For it is clear that Isaiah says: A rod shall come forth from the root of Jesse, and a flower shall ascend from his root; and the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and strength, the spirit of wisdom and piety; and he shall be filled with the spirit of the fear of the Lord. According to this prophecy, therefore, he predicted that all of the house and family of David that were unmarried and fit for marriage should bring there rods to the altar; and that he whose rod after it was brought should produce a flower, and upon the end of whose rod the Spirit of the Lord should settle in the form of a dove, was the man to whom the virgin ought to be entrusted and espoused. Do we need read anymore because it is clear here what kind of Virgin Mary was because she had not even known a man but I must give to the rest of the book Chapter 8 --Now there was among the rest Joseph, of the house and family of David, a man of great age: and when all brought there rods, according to the order, he alone withheld his. Wherefore, when nothing in conformity with the divine voice appeared, the high priest thought it necessary to consult God a second time; and He answered, that of those who had been designated, he alone to whom the virgin ought to be espoused had not brought his rod. Joseph, therefore, was found out. For when he had brought his rod, and the dove came from heaven; and settled upon the top of it, it clearly appeared to all that he was the man to whom the virgin should be espoused. Therefore, the usual ceremonies of betrothal having been gone through, he went back to the city of Bethlehem to put his house in order, and to procure things necessary for the marriage. But Mary, the virgin of the Lord, with seven other virgins of her own age, and who had been weaned at the same time, whom she had received from the priest, returned to the house of her parents in Galilee. Chapter 9 --And in those days, that is, at the time of her first coming into Galilee, the angel Gabriel was sent to her by God, to announce to her the conception of the Lord, and to explain to her the manner and order of the conception. Accordingly, going in, he filled the chamber where she was with a great light; and most courteously saluting her, he said: Hail, Mary! O virgin highly favoured by the Lord, virgin full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou above all women, blessed above all men that have been hitherto born. And the virgin, who was already well acquainted with angelic faces, and was not unused to the light from heaven, was neither terrified by the vision of the angel, nor astonished at the greatness of the light, but only perplexed by his words; and she began to consider of what nature a salutation so unusual could be, or what it could portend, or what end it could have. And the angel, divinely inspired, taking up this thought, says: Fear not, Mary, as if anything contrary to thy chastity were hid under this salutation. For in choosing chastity, thou hast found favour with the Lord; and therefore thou, a virgin, shalt conceive without sin, and shalt bring forth a son. He shall be great, because He shall rule from sea to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth; and He shall be called the Son of the Most High, because He who is born on earth in humiliation, reigns in heaven in exaltation; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David, and He shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever, and of His kingdom there shall be no end; forasmuch as He is King of kings and Lord of lords, and His throne is from everlasting to everlasting. The virgin did not doubt these words of the angel; but wishing to know the manner of it, she answered: How can that come to pass? For while, according to my vow, I never know man, how can I bring forth without the addition of man's seed? To this the angel says: Think not, Mary, that thou shalt conceive in the manner of mankind: for without any intercourse with man, thou, a virgin, wilt conceive; thou, a virgin, wilt bring forth; thou, a virgin, wilt nurse: for the Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee, without any of the heats of lust; and therefore that which shall be born of thee shall alone be holy, because it alone, being conceived and born without sin, shall be called the Son of God. Then Mary stretched forth her hands, and raised her eyes to heaven, and said: Behold the hand-maiden of the Lord, for I am not worthy of the name of lady; let it be to me according to thy word. Chapter 10 --Joseph therefore came from Judaea into Galilee, intending to marry the virgin who had been betrothed to him; for already three months had elapsed, and it was the beginning of the fourth since she had been betrothed to him. In the meantime, it was evident from her shape that she was pregnant, nor could she conceal this from Joseph. For in consequence of his being betrothed to her, coming to her more freely and speaking to her more familiarly, he found out that she was with child. He began then to be in great doubt and perplexity, because he did not know what was best for him to do. For, being a just man, he was not willing to expose her; nor, being a pious man, to injure her fair fame by a suspicion of fornication. He came to the conclusion, therefore, privately to dissolve their contract, and to send her away secretly. And while he thought on these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, thou son of David, fear not; that is, do not have any suspicion of fornication in the virgin, or think any evil of her; and fear not to take her as thy wife: for that which is begotten in her, and which now vexes thy soul, is the work not of man, but of the Holy Spirit. For she alone of all virgins shall bring forth the Son of God, and thou shalt call His name Jesus, that is, Saviour; for He shall save His people from their sins. Therefore Joseph, according to the command of the angel, took the virgin as his wife; nevertheless he knew her not, but took care of her, and kept her in chastity. And now the ninth month from her conception was at hand, when Joseph, taking with him his wife along with what things he needed, went to Bethlehem, the city from which he came. And it came to pass, while they were there, that her days were fulfilled that she should bring forth; and she brought forth her first-born son, as the holy evangelists have shown, our Lord Jesus Christ, who with the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost lives and reigns God from everlasting to everlasting. hope you enjoy reading with love and an holy (spiritual) kiss or hug Roy

God first Beloved Rachel That a good question I must say I sure forever is not over yet Would it matter who its written I would think not because when Christ was on earth there people alive during the law period which still live into the Grace period But maybe its like a burn offering that the old testament used to free them from sins or etc We still have them but they change from lamb of flesh to the lamb of God the Christ which is good forever One lasted short time other last forever Now I do not know if a burn offerings are one of the things we are told to do forever Put it just the way I try to understand something from Old Testament that might be told to do forever But that just me I guess I need to know more but I still believe forever is not over with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved JM What to do about trig? That a hard question because within the small trig fellowship I am sure there are a lot of loving people. If your eyes are open it might not hurt to go to trig to fellowship with friends you met But I make sure I know all things to watch for Here are some things I would watch for 1. do not get into a class 2. do not go to a bigger metting 3. stay away from leadership 4. keep your money but if you want to give bring coffe or food for after fellowship 5. let them know you are part of Greas Spot Cafe 6. do not believe everything you hear 7. if a fight of words begin because you do not trust them leave These are just some things I would think about if they would let me go About the way everyone must make up their own mind but at least be careful with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Song The bible known as scripture does say that God created the heaven and earth I believe created could be translated gave birth Because is that not what a man and a women do created new life by the act of planting seed I have all so read it other places I believe God created or gave birth to all things from his self Which would be heaven would getting born to be like God And hell would be going back to God like our bodies go back to dirt but that me I love to think outside the box with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved All What is the word of God ---every word spoken, wrote, or life style by the direction of God or by the direction of God lead by Christ What believing -- nothing but trust these things to be so trust that Christ did get up and that he die for you personally is a good beginning What is spirit -- the outcome of the blood of the word of God mixing with the blood of believing That the seed that is planted in you Just you were planted from blood of your father mixing with blood of your mother You mother's body place the two bloods in an egg or seed and you begin to grow then you were born The same way with spirit the two bloods or parts whatever you want to call them mix the one word of God we will call the father and the other believing we will call the mother Christ mix them together Now its call seed or Christ in us Lets look more Colossians 1:16-19 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.For it pleased the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell; created by him, and for him read this by and for him Some were created by him and others for him So we have two diff creators here What God created in the beginning for his son and the new life Christ created in us by all he did for us Read the verse again Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Created for him and created by him here we are talking about Christ We know what God created but how many know what Christ created that all with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved All I sure its a good tape but I will never buy a tape from any group but if they post it or send it free by Email I will read I did got a tape once on Gen from John Lynn because my understanding was differ to his I send mine free in a US mail but had to pay $20.00 for it after I left the Way but it was of no value I have got a lot free tapes and books from time to time but will never buy one again with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved DMiller and Goey Ok I will try again The word great is not the word that tells us it an angel but it helps Great whales or great animals is like saying this animal is king of animals above other in a way Now we know that God set this animal to be great compair to other we need to find out why An whale lives in the sea yes or no Here that same Hebrew word out of the sea used as serpent Exo 7:9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Show a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a (serpent.) 10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a (serpent.) 12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became (serpents:)--> but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. This animal can go into the sea or live on land but this is not a whale I know all you see so far is an animal but lets look more Here some places its used as dragon Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the (dragon) shalt thou trample under feet. Psa 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye (dragons,) and all deeps: Some say here we are talking about the devil if so the devil was an angel but lets go on Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the (dragon) that is in the sea. this sounds like what will happen in Revelation Isa 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of (dragons,) where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes This seems like the dragons are devils Isa 51:9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the (dragon?) Jer 9:11 And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of (dragons;)--> and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant. The list could go on but one must read all context to see this But let me say that if you find one verse saying that the dragon is a devil and the same dragon of Revelation that we are talking about angels being animals For there must be a word in Greek for the word dragon in Hebrew that all my dear friends its up to you to either research more as you pray about it or not with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved DMiller What about Goliath He was a man like some Giants in TV Wresting that are about 8 foot tall Mankind has in pass and will do it again make big men I know one name Al in SC that would make me look small he was about 7 foot 4 inches Now it does not happen a lot but it happens Cain children mixing with Seth children would be no differ than an believer son mixing with an unbelievers dauther In Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. The word great sets the animal whale apart from other animals why ? Then the word Whales H8577. tanniyn, tan-neen'; or tanniym (Ezek. 29 : 3), tan-neem'; intens. from the same as H8565; a marine or land monster, i.e. sea-serpent or jackal:--dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale This word is used in many ways and if you read then all you will see its talking about an animal but not an whale After doing word studies and reading many verses and then long talks with God I saw that this was the begining of Animals that live in the heavens which God used for messagers from time to time that all for now with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved DMiller You said God is to say by the way of Jesus Christ can say about spiritual things about angel seed --If you think angels are spirits yes but I believe they are not What is an angel- Messager of God some mankind and others animal kind but mostly used as the animal kind which are called Great Whales in Gen 1 They are the ones in heaven but others have been mankind from time to time like Moses So they train snakes to act like sticks in the physical world were Moses strick change for real by the power of God What about Nephilim were they just mankind or are you talking about Enoch The word angel in Enoch should of been translated Messager or children of Seth who were followers of God and children of men is children of Cain So children of Cain mix with children of Seth Now the 120 years is not what most think with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved All I have been enjoying reading this tread as you share your heart with me and others I have not time to detail answer any post now but may later thanks with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Dear friends Yes what do you want to do to the Way? Would you like to burn it down? Would you sale it to the Morons or another Church? Would you build it biger? Would you turn it back into a farm ? Would you ect ? And what about the leaders of the Way? Would you forgive them? Would you give them a red nose? Would you give them better cars to drive? Just what would you do good or bad? Now some may have to write things like this "I f*.k them *. or somthing like that? As for me I would do nothing to the Way or its leaders Because it would not change anything My heart is all most heal now but the pain I had feel would not be like it was never there So I choice to move on and leave them in the dust with love and an holy kiss Roy unless you want an holy hiss whatever that is

God first Beloved All The birth has not come we are still an child in the belly of God like an child in the belly of its mother The Old Testament believers were born at the first coming of Christ after Christ won over death Christ went into the grave to get them and show them how to be born There were children but could not be born until the victory was won by Christ They are the dead in Christ and have been born first but we are the alive in Christ and our birth is still coming Its God taking care of our every need like an mother with child in her belly takes care of the child every need We were taught to believe for things like you have all ready receive them and that the way they believe for new birth As any birth there a time peroid to be in the mother belly or for plants in the belly of the earth Seed is one thing but birth is another Seed is the mixing of God's word with believing then a child of spirit begans to grow with God all things are possible with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved *.* I heard John Linder was here to invite all XWay people (because the Way no longer calls us believers) to Thankgiven diner with the household of the most godly believers If we just could find our way there after being lost for so manys years ha ha ha ha just for fun with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Goey Yes I have read that but here what I believe The word of God comes into us (Like the seed of man goes into a woman) Then mixes with believing and the two make a seed (like the man's seed mixes with the woman seed) The seed begins to grow a child called holy spirit (like to two seeds make a baby) Later the holy spirit is born into Immority ( like the baby is born into an son or dauther) One happens after the birth time comes about 9 months but other one comes at the set time of the return of Christ with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Goey Here are some of the verses with devil around your quote I read none saying father my seed but more or less a father like VPW was father of the Way John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? The word devil here is false accuser, 1228. diabolos, dee-ab'-ol-os; from G1225; a traducer; spec. Satan [comp. H7854]:--false accuser, devil, slanderer. John 7:20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee? The word devil here is false god 1140. daimonion, dahee-mon'-ee-on; neut. of a der. of G1142; a daemonic being; by extens. a deity:--devil, god. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. The word devil here is false accuser who you learn it by the father of false accuser 1228. diabolos, dee-ab'-ol-os; from G1225; a traducer; spec. Satan [comp. H7854]:--false accuser, devil, slanderer. John 8:48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? The word devil here is false god 1140. daimonion, dahee-mon'-ee-on; neut. of a der. of G1142; a daemonic being; by extens. a deity:--devil, god. I like to see one verse that reads we can have the seeds of the devil in us unless Adam be the devil but I think not or at least not the serpent that die long ago but its seed is still try-ing to rule There are many parents that are truely parents but not my seed The devil kind is not same as our seed with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Eagle and others Sure the devil has seed but that seed can not be planted in mankind Recall Genesis everything after its kind Angels can only plant angel seed whether evil or good To many people see devils has more than there are but the true is that they are just animals the greatest of animals - Great Whales Now not an whale has we know but one that swins in the heavens until some were cast down to earth Fish kind were the only kind that were not on the ark So there kind was not started over like all others with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Bowtwi, Satori001, and Dmiller thanks it must be an cookie because I open an old broser and its not on it I will clean all my cookies and see what happens with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved Jim and Bowtwi Yes I talking about the backgroud of Gress Spot Cafe being gray and the tread being gray with lines which makes it hard to read with love and an holy kiss Roy

God first Beloved friends I am seing gray on gray which makes it hard to read Is that going to stray or is it temple with love and an holy kiss Roy