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God first Beloved friends They (other churches) wrote whole books to prove God and Christ are basic the same with very few verses to prove it. The Way attacked these books with Jesus is not God I think its was called. The Way wrote a whole book to prove there was no conscience in the grave with very few verses to prove it. – The dead are not alive or something like that I think Verses like – Psa 88:5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand. But just because there no soul conscience in the grave does not mean the conscience of the dead man has not been place another place for safe keeping for God. But were the dead of the years before Christ just stored by God until their conscience was or is needed And what about today Christ has came. So is the conscience of the dead that are alive in Christ stored in their seed of Christ in them a part that does not die. But to the main point I wrote this to make a point. Why did the Way a group saying they were good write books to fight against others groups books while they could of wrote a book on how to build love more in all groups? Is not that what its about learning to love one another more and more as God loves us thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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On Sexuality and Spirituallity...
year2027 replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Tood God loves all of us I more one am interested but I like to set back and watch for a while before I add anything And its devil spirits come hell we can just throw them a ball to run after while we learn and grow in spiritual sex truths that are out there so I will be watching with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved Danny God loves you my dear friend It all ways a blessing to see you my dear friend thank you I glad you think some will be debating my words years after I am gone but do not stay invisible to long no one can see you that way and we all enjoy seeing you my dear friend with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first wrote 04-06-2006 1. Here I Roy William Perry III sat thinking about every thought or ideal I have whether good or bad and how I line them up with truth while I cast out the bad thoughts and give more detail to the good ones. 2. We all have thoughts as I do over and over and this is what we try to plant in others as we walk alone in our every day life with simple words like “God loves you or God bless you” to ones we met in our path to the differ places we go. 3. These simple words plant ideals of what God love is to them which can plant differed ideals in people depending on their personal background even if all receive it with love. 4. Just the word God will draw many differed picture in people hearts, like the Jew may see God as the God Moses, God of Abraham, and so on but we may see God as God the Father a more personal way. 5. There are a endless ways people will receive the word God but I am sorry that some will received God as a controller or in a bad way but let me say God is to be received as one who loves you. 6. But we can not tell people what kind of ideal to received into their heart out of the love we are trying to plant but all we can do is plant with hopes they ask for more details. 7. Now I will never stop loving my brothers and sisters of the household of Adam because there ideals do not line up with my personal ideals of love has people many have over the years. 8. There have many brothers and sisters of the household of Adam who used a household they have not walk into yet to control others lives or to even kill. 9. Yes we have become members of the household of God but we still live on this earth because we have not yet changed in the clouds to have our new body which will happen in due time. 10. We are still in these fleshly body and have not been born from flesh to spirit yet but we are only flesh with the seed of spirit planted in our heart to be born at the return of Christ for us. 11. This seed grows with the image of God which is the image of Christ inside our heart until it breaks out to live as the lights of this world but not fleshly lights but spiritual lights brighter than the brightest star. 12. Yes it Christ who planted that seed in us but it was our believing that fertilized our seed of Christ in us making this a seed that can be born at the great day of birth when we that were fertilized by faith put on a new body. 13. But until that day we can only feed our seed with truths by reaching for that which we can not see nor hear with our fleshy body but once we have feed our seed image our seed image can help our flesh image see what is right and just. 14. We reach to live by books that were wrote from others spiritual seeds in people that are no longer living in the flesh but alive in the spirit to see us face to face in due time. 15. But we need to be written our own personal books today received from our seed image helping us either share the heart of the old books or a new book in our own words talking like we talk to each other in love. 16. Now can we say anything new I do not know but I do know we can make it more personal to the hearts of the readers. 17. Not because needs changed but because word meaning have changed or the way we talk has changed over the years . 18. We find our self trying to get back to the way they used words and phases but why not make it more simple have the teaching come personally unto us from above for I tell you if God and Christ talk to them he will talk to you. 19. For God loves you the same as he loves Moses, Paul, or any others of before we were born and what he did for them he will do for you. 20. Look Adam had a living spiritual image for a while before his spiritual death so when the Spirit of God over shower him he knew who it was and he taught his children about it. 21. So there was teaching about God by holy spirit upon them teaching to help most hear from God and when some was not taught how God share with others images like a burning bush image who past the words alone. 22. You see all animal, plants, elements, or whatever has the knowledge of God planted in their DNA who God is and that why they do his will from time to time. 23. Now I do not know if they have free will or not but I read and saw they obey his wishes even the wind. 24. I long to see others more and more reaching to share what God has taught them one on one as some do and there own personal way at first I had God help me make teaching using the bible making it seem to be alive. 25. We all have seen things or done things that can help us reach to the very heart of a another person we may met in this life better than another person may reach because I how we live our life. 26. For the shop you talk will be differed than the shop I may talk, for I may be able to talk shop to a farm helper because I have done that while you may be able to talk shop to a nurse because you have done that . 27. I may become friends to the farm helper to the point I have share Christ with them but not the nurse but you may become friends to the nurse to the point you can share Christ with them but that does mean I do not share Christ with the nurse nor you with the farm helper. 28. You see there are people you are more suited the help them me and even some that will never hear from me but may listen to you and that why God put so many differed kinds of people in the body of Christ to reach all that can be reached with love. 29. Its not how many you or I bring to church but how we share our love of God with all that we see because we both may talk to nurses in our life but you may live in a city were there no farms and never talk to a farm helper like I may. 30. I leave you with these words walk in Love as the great book of 1 John tells us they were told to do and if it was truth for them its truth for us with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend I glad you have not wrote me off and I have not wrote you off either I just post what I hear on many board love on many hated on many more but I post on about 25 boards at any given time There are so many kinds of believers out there and for every good believer like me and you there are 1,000,000 that will attacked us if we say Jesus Christ is the son of God that we believe in SIT What I told some I talk to dust or wind like Jesus Christ did Ask the wind were it been or ask the dust if it was once part of Adam Or if I told them I talk to the image of dead fleshly people I guess we are having fun with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved All I love and all as does God I love the CES but I do not kept up with it these days I got the tapes for a while but only listen to a few I gave to them some but I more find myself on the outside because my personal beliefs change more and more these days as I grow in truth So to set guide lines would be a thing I could never live with unless there was only two 1.) Love God first and put God first to my best in every part of my life 2.) is love all other people whether I see them face to face or not and whether they talk good about me or not I guess that is me but I believe most believes do these two the best they can but churches seem to have many guide lines as did the way thank you for letting me talk at you my dear friends with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend Look we both agree that Paul said he was alive in Christ Now if Moses is not part of the dead in Christ then were do we put people like him come in because They die before Christ came or before there was hope And why can not there be more than one last trump or each person has their own last trump until the last trump of all of mankind for the second coming The way taught that the dead in Christ were the ones who fall dead before the second coming and they taught dead are dead but there is no awakness in the grave but that does mean its not some were elst (maybe in God or in the image) we say let Christ come into your life But Jesus the Christ has been coming over and over to people when they die for over 2,000 years but this is a circle of flesh seed planted in our mothers to that seed breaking out as a life like our mothers to spiritual seed being planted in our fleshly image to that seed breaking out of us at our fleshly death as life like Christ Look I can not show you spiritual things by fleshly words but I can point the way to a degree Look we Paul and others were quickened or made alive while we are alive spiritual while living but people like Moses were quickened when dead and they became alive spiritually while dead Mark 9:5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. Luke 9:33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. verese like these Now Goey it looks like we could go over and over in the flesh trying to show one another our understanding but I am all ways willing to try because when I try it helps others see things I may of missed You see for years I believe the bible was for me to live by but today I see it was not wrote to me but to give me a beginning point then after I have a beginning point I can get into my own personal walk receiving things from above as I share them as I receive more a never ending circle between me and Christ a personal relationship with Christ and God I do not know what elst to write so I leave it here thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved sirguessalot God loves you my dear friend yes one that see's things simple me and one that see's things complete being Goey will have a hard time seeing eye to eye but that does mean either is wrong but as they try to meet they both get over their heads thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend Goey wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was more interested in the immediate context of Chapter 4, verses 4-17, not the whole epsitle really. And particularly, anything that can shed light upon who the "dead in Christ" are. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes I know that but we want the complete context plus the sub contexts with the time line Goey wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------ You are saying they are NOT the Christians that died after Christ ascended. I am saying that they ARE. I suggest that the immediate context helps us understand who they are. ----------------------------------------------------------------- but I saying we need the whole context of the book the get the picture Paul is giving us and them you added -------------------------------------------------------------------- I suggest the the immediate begins in verse 13. 1 Th 4:13: "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope." Paul is discussing "them which sleep". That is the topic at hand. --Next Verse ------------------------------------------------------------------- Your missing part of the context them that are asleep or dead which no hope know at the time Paul wrote this to the Thessalonians church brethren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Th 4:14: "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." Paul parallels Jesus's death and ressurection with them "which sleep in Jesus". This parallel implies that "sleep" in this verse refers to a physical death like Jesus physical death. "Jesus" is the same as "Christ" and "sleep" is the same as "dead", so then we can say that "sleep in Jesus" is the same as "dead in Christ". Can we not ? ---------------------------------------------------------------- I see no parallels here but I see false teaching misslead us you added ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Th 4:15: For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. We which are alive and remain (Paul includes himself ) as opposed to those who are alseep [in Jesus]. It would follow then that Paul was refering to the believers then living - the alive [in Jesus]. We could call them the alive in Christ if we wanted to. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Paul not alive in the flesh now but me and you both see that Paul includes himself as a alive in Christ So either God lie or there a error in our understanding but I say Paul is alive and the last trump for him was his last breath of flesh Put lets look at time line some if a man was young about 20 years old at the time Jesus the Christ die and rose even 70 years later they still recall people who die before they were 20 or heard of family members talk about thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend ok here what you been looking for 1 Th 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. Furthermore then Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus beseech the Thessalonians church brethren, and exhort the Thessalonians church brethren by the Lord Jesus, that as the Thessalonians church brethren have received of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus how ye ought to walk and to please God, so the Thessalonians church brethren would abound more and more. As we should 1 Th 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. For the Thessalonians church brethren know what commandments Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus gave the Thessalonians church brethren by the Lord Jesus as we know what been taught to us 1 Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: For this is the will of God, even the Thessalonians church brethren sanctification, that the Thessalonians church brethren should abstain from fornication: as we should 1 Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; That every one of the Thessalonians church brethren should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; as we should 1 Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: as we shall not do in lust too 1 Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus also have forewarned the Thessalonians church brethren and testified. As we should testified 1 Th 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. For God hath not called the Thessalonians church brethren and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. As we should 1 Th 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto the Thessalonians church brethren and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus his holy Spirit. As given to us a sub context of receiving the holy spirit 1 Th 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another. But as touching brotherly love the Thessalonians church brethren need not that Paul write unto the Thessalonians church brethren: for the Thessalonians church brethren yourselves are taught of God to love one another as we are taught too love one another 1 Th 4:10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more; And indeed the Thessalonians church brethren do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus beseech the Thessalonians church brethren, brethren, that the Thessalonians church brethren increase more and more as we should other churches 1 Th 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you; And that the Thessalonians church brethren study to be quiet, and to do the Thessalonians church brethren own business, and to work with the Thessalonians church brethren own hands, as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus commanded the Thessalonians church brethren; as we should do 1 Th 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing. That the Thessalonians church brethren may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that the Thessalonians church brethren may have lack of nothing. As we shall 1 Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. But I would not have the Thessalonians church brethren to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that the Thessalonians church brethren sorrow not, even as others which have no hope sub context them who have no hope them who are asleep From Adam up to Jesus Christ that die before there was hope became asleep by fleshly dying before there was hope but Paul was telling them not to be ignorant concerning them who die before hope came into the world ( look at the time line when people knew some personally who die before hope came into the world) So the context has a time line and is Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus helping the Thessalonians church brethren understand about them who fall asleep before there was hope 1 Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For if the Thessalonians church brethren and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with God as he will Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus and the Thessalonians church brethren. Look they the ones alseep believe Jesus the Christ would come, die, and rise in three days but we believe it has happened and it was over 2,000 years ago 1 Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For this Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus say unto the Thessalonians church brethren by the word of the Lord, that Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus and the Thessalonians church brethren which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep us that are alive and shall be alive until the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep how spiritually Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus called themself part of the alive in Christ 1 Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first as he has descended from heaven at the last trump of God the last breath of Jesus when he said it is finish the second he won over death when he came down to be seen and that why the apostles saw Moses in the clouds because Moses was one of the ones asleep or dead in Christ which rose first 1 Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Then Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus and the Thessalonians church brethren which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall the Thessalonians church brethren and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus ever be with the Lord as we will be as part of the alive in Christ 1 Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Wherefore comfort one another with these words as we can with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend ok lets see more 1 Th 2:11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children, As the Thessalonians church brethren know how Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus exhorted and comforted and charged every one of the Thessalonians church brethren, as a father doth his children, as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus can each other as we should do to all we meet 1 Th 2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory. That the Thessalonians church brethren would walk worthy of God, God hath called the Thessalonians church brethren unto God’s kingdom and glory but Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus should walk the same as we should 1 Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe. For this cause also thank Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus God without ceasing, because, when the Thessalonians church brethren received the word of God which the Thessalonians church brethren heard of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus , the Thessalonians church brethren received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in the Thessalonians church brethren that believe as we can as we should 1 Th 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: For the Thessalonians church brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for the Thessalonians church brethren also have suffered like things of the Thessalonians church brethren own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: as we will suffered of ones in our time 1 Th 2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their Jews prophets, and have persecuted the Thessalonians church brethren and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus ; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: but we should not persecuted any church 1 Th 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. Forbidding Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. As we should speak 1 Th 2:17 But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face with great desire. But Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus , brethren, being taken from the Thessalonians church brethren for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see the Thessalonians church brethren face with great desire. As we should each other 1 Th 2:18 Wherefore we would have come unto the Thessalonians church brethren you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us. Wherefore Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus would have come unto the Thessalonians church brethren, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus . We should not let Satan hindered us 1 Th 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? For what is Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? As we should be 1 Th 2:20 For ye are our glory and joy. For the Thessalonians church brethren are Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus glory and joy. As we should see others glory and joy 1 Th 3:1 Wherefore when we could no longer forbear, we thought it good to be left at Athens alone; Wherefore when Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus could no longer forbear, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus thought it good to be left at Athens alone; how one can think 1 Th 3:2 And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith: And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish the Thessalonians church brethren, and to comfort the Thessalonians church brethren concerning the Thessalonians church brethren faith: as we can send help by fellow believers to friends of God’s love Timotheus is a new sub context 1 Th 3:3 That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto. That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for the Thessalonians church brethren know that Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus are appointed thereunto. As some should know of us 1 Th 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. For verily, when Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were with the Thessalonians church brethren, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus told the Thessalonians church brethren before that Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and the Thessalonians church brethren know as we will suffer tribulation 1 Th 3:5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain. For this cause, when Paul could no longer forbear, Paul sent to know the Thessalonians church brethren faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted the Thessalonians church brethren, and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus labour be in vain. As we can do for others or others do for us 1 Th 3:6 But now when Timotheus came from you unto us, and brought us good tidings of your faith and charity, and that ye have good remembrance of us always, desiring greatly to see us, as we also to see you: But now when Timotheus came from the Thessalonians church brethren unto Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus , and brought Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus good tidings of the Thessalonians church brethren faith and charity, and that the Thessalonians church brethren have good remembrance of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus always, desiring greatly to see Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus , as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus also to see the Thessalonians church brethren: as we should each other 1 Th 3:7 Therefore, brethren, we were comforted over you in all our affliction and distress by your faith: Therefore, the Thessalonians church brethren, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were comforted over the Thessalonians church brethren in all Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus affliction and distress by the Thessalonians church brethren faith: as we should each other 1 Th 3:8 For now we live, if ye stand fast in the Lord. For now Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus live, if the Thessalonians church brethren stand fast in the Lord as we should 1 Th 3:9 For what thanks can we render to God again for you, for all the joy wherewith we joy for your sakes before our God; For what thanks can Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus render to God again for the Thessalonians church brethren, for all the joy wherewith Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus joy for the Thessalonians church brethren sakes before our God as we should each other’s church 1 Th 3:10 Night and day praying exceedingly that we might see your face, and might perfect that which is lacking in your faith? Night and day praying exceedingly that Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus might see the Thessalonians church brethren face, and might perfect that which is lacking in the Thessalonians church brethren faith? As we should all churches of today 1 Th 3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you. Now God himself and our Father, and Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus Lord Jesus Christ, direct Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus way unto the Thessalonians church brethren as we should have Christ direct our paths to help each other 1 Th 3:12 And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: And the Lord make the Thessalonians church brethren to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus do toward the Thessalonians church brethren: as we should all churches 1 Th 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. To the end he the Lord may stablish the Thessalonians church brethren hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus Father, at the coming of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints as we should see how personal this is so far simple to the point as we should do there but in a differ time period but soon the 4th chapter were the context is you are looking for thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend Ok I read the book of 1 Thessalonians and look at the context of this book verse by verse 1 Th 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Tells me this book was wrote unto the church of Thessalonians at the time Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus lived, so I can learn from it but it was not wrote to me personally or any church of my time but the same truths then are still true today 1 Th 1:2 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus gives thanks for the people of the church of Thessalonians who they knew personally but we can give thanks for each other in our prayers 1 Th 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father; Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus are remembering with ceasing the work of faith, labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ of the Thessalonians church people in the view of God our Father but we can do each other 1 Th 1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus knows the Thessalonians church brethren who are beloved their election of God but we can be beloved with a election of God 1 Th 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake. For Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus gospel came not unto the Thessalonians church brethren in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit, and much assurance; as you the Thessalonians church brethren know what manner of men Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were among the Thessalonians church brethren for your sake but we can do all this with each other I know you are a man that loves God and you can know what kind of man I am as we write to each other 1 Th 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost: the Thessalonians church brethren became followers of Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, and the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost: but we are followers of our leaders too look like the context here is Holy Spirit unto church brethren 1 Th 1:7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia. So that the Thessalonians church brethren were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia but we can be ensamples to all that come to our board 1 Th 1:8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing. For from the Thessalonians church brethren sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing but we can sound out the word of truth unto the whole net 1 Th 1:9 For they themselves show of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; For the Macedonia brethren and the Achaia brethren show of us what manner of entering in Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus had unto the Thessalonians church brethren and how the Thessalonians church brethren turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God but we can help others of our time the same way 1 Th 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. Ye taught Macedonia brethren and the Achaia brethren to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus and the Thessalonians church brethren from the second death to come but we can help each other see this today 1 Th 2:1 For yourselves, brethren, know our entrance in unto you, that it was not in vain: For the Thessalonians church brethren know Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus entrance in unto the Thessalonians church brethren that it was not in vain but we can know each other entrance whether out of love or not and hope it not be in vain as it was not this time 1 Th 2:2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. But even after that Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as the Thessalonians church brethren know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto the Thessalonians church brethren the gospel of God with much contention as you can speak the gospel to others 1 Th 2:3 For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: For Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile and your can do the same 1 Th 2:4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. But as Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts and you can do the same 1 Th 2:5 For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: For neither at any time used Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus flattering words, as the Thessalonians church brethren know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness as you can 1 Th 2:6 Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. Nor of men sought Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus glory, neither of the Thessalonians church brethren, nor yet of others, when Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ as you can 1 Th 2:7 But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children: But Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were gentle among the Thessalonians church brethren, even as a nurse cherisheth her children we can be that way to each other 1 Th 2:8 So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you, not the gospel of God only, but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us. So being affectionately desirous of the Thessalonians church brethren, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus were willing to have imparted unto the Thessalonians church brethren, not the gospel of God only, but also Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus own souls, because the Thessalonians church brethren were dear unto Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus as we can be to each other 1 Th 2:9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God. For the Thessalonians church brethren remember, brethren, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus would not be chargeable unto any of the Thessalonians church brethren, Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus preached unto the Thessalonians church brethren the gospel of God as we can do to others and as others can do for us 1 Th 2:10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: the Thessalonians church brethren are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus behaved ourselves among the Thessalonians church brethren that believe: as we should be able to say to the ones we lead and the ones who lead us should be able to say Ok the context is Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus sharing with the Thessalonians church brethren with some sub contexts like holy spirit but during the time these brethren of the Thessalonians church live on earth so the ones called asleep or dead in Christ would people who they may of knew die before the hope came by Jesus the Christ winning over death making a way by making us alive spiritually if we talk about the hope when was not there in Moses's time but he only reach for that day but we live in that day and can be made alive spiritually before we die but ones like Moses had to be made alive after they fell asleep or die but I will dig deeper into this book so I will post more soon but wanted to give you time to look at these so far thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend I reread for context and I see my context works but I doing a deep study of it will share it with all soon give me a day or so thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Ckmkeon God loves you my dear friend Feel free to use it thank you any thing I write is free for all to use any way they want with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend The dead in Christ Of 1 Th 4:14-17 are the children of God that lived with a dead spirit but by the reaching for the first coming they won a live spirit but could only receive it after Christ won over death The alive in Christ of 1 Th 4:14-17 are the children of God that received Christ in us But the people I am talking about will look for a sign to come after we the alive in Christ are in the air with the dead in Christ every eye has seen Christ and all left is the day of judgment were there either be judge good or bad the good will received Christ in them by judgment but the bad will received death in them by judgment The dead in Christ was said to mean all those people that die before Christ comes back but see that not to be true once you become alive in Christ even if your body dies your spirit still lives on People missunderstand because they do not understand the three forms of life and the three forms of death your paraphrase # 7 7. Then the signs of the great day of judgement must begin and the first sign will be that all those who died without Christ before He defeated death along with all those who died in Christ will rise from the dead .... No these dead in Christ are not children of God but people who live only with a dead spirit like we had before we received Christ into our lives all that die over the years and that kill themself at the second coming that were not children of God will rise naturally to await the third coming of Christ the day of judgment they will have a 1,000 years to repent and begin to reach for the coming of Christ the day of Judgment some will become children of God and others will not So the dead in Christ are all children of God that die before Christ won over death So the alived in Christ are all children of God that received the seed of Christ by beliveing and confessing whether their body alive or dead at this time because they receive a new body But there will be judgment in Christ or judgment in death So the judgment in Christ is all that believed and confess after the second coming has past so there day is the day of judgment So the judgment in death is all those there never repeated of their sins during the second changed to repent thank you hope this helps with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend Ok I try to help 7. Then the signs of the great day of judgement must begin (we watch for signs for the second coming and some watch for the sign of first coming but some will have to watch for signs of the third coming the day of judgment) and the first sign will be all that were not dead in Christ or alive in Christ (the first for the coming of the third coming - all mankind that were not part of the dead in Christ from Adam to the last of mankind that die before Christ won over death and the alive in Christ all that received the seed of Christ in them) will get up from the dead to walk in the form of fleshy life with a dead spirit to either be judge good or bad at the day of Judgment. (they all have die fleshly all of mankind that were not dead in Christ or alive in Christ will rise from death to be either just good or bad at the day of judgment - we know all must die because one can not die a second death until they die the first) 18. The body can die a hundred times but the spirit can not, for the spirit is born dead so if its rose from the dead it strays alive whether the body walks or sits in the grave, the spirits flies in the heaven above. (the flesh can die over and over but the spirit can only be born dead and be reborn or be replaned but not die again but if the spirit is dead it stays with the body but if alive it flies in the heaven above until it gets a new body) 19. Yes all mankind that ever lived were rose to live again but in the form of a dead spirit unless they received Christ in their lives by not being mark by the mark of dead but by the mark of life Christ in them. (all mankind that were not dead in Christ or Alive in Christ from Adam up were rose fleshly with a dead spirit unless or until they received Christ in them like we did to have the mark of a Christ while others only have the mark of flesh with a dead spirit you may call natural men) hope this helps Do you have anyone that could help you with this? No I do not have help but I am here to try to help thank you Genesis 3 talks about the spiritual death but it part of Adam die does not mean all of Adam die Some Adam could not pass alone a live spirit so he past alone a dead one but do I have verese that say it like I do no but its there in the patters of death when the body dies parts can still be used thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved sprawled out God loves you thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved coolchef1248 @adelphia.net God loves you my dear friend thank you you for the holy kiss with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved ChasUFarley God loves you my dear friend I glad you enjoy reading them thanks with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Goey God loves you my friend Yes spiritual life is like a dead flower on a plant it there there until it falls off long after death but a person can have dead neves and not lose the neve hope this helps you see what a dead spirit would be like I glad you got dead spirit in the open thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved dmiller and ChasUFarley God loves you two I like the book of Roy and I guess the chapter is 03-27-2006 thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved ChasUFarley God loves you my dear friend I glad you like it that way and feel free to quote me any time thanks with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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anyone game for a deep chat session?
year2027 replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Todd God loves us Yes there no true fleshly straight line and yes the poles are a great subject but there are others things to talk about Like there are no bad lights but only lack of light while there may be bad cause of light but the is never bad Like there is no bad sounds but only lack of sound leaving it without a pattern of tones Like there are no bad smells but only lack of smell leaving out tones leaving it with out a pattern thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Looking Beyond a Monochromatic Faith…
year2027 replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Todd and others God loves us all Yes I love the beginning of these note of pure love to reach to help each other grow in faith Now I have not read every reply yet but I love were this tread is going Yes there is faith of all kinds in this fleshly world but when faith turns to trust that is spiritual were we really begin to grow in faith but on a new relm The tones of love we hear like you have share with us the tones of faith the tones of trust with the tones of love and all others tones of the spirit is a sound I love to hear but I am still just a beginer or shades of light of the flesh -v- the shades of the lights of truth for the way flesh can talk to things of the flesh -v- the way spirit can talk to spiritual things for the way we can tralvel with fleshly elements -v- the way we can travel spiritualy So as we fly with the lights of the spiritual realms and as we hear the spiritual sounds we long for the day we can touch them too for there are smells of the flesh and smells of the spirit but the top of the mountain of faith is complete trust in God and his son Let God and his son directed our paths more and more thank you I love this subject with the tone of love sounding to all reaching to touch you all with a pure kiss of spiritual love Roy -
anyone game for a deep chat session?
year2027 replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Hi Todd, Sir Guess Alot my loving friend and others God loves us all as you know I love to write hoping we can build more trust together that God does Love us Ok I am not good at the chat line because I am slow at keeping up with who talking to who but I throw in a deep subject Can you truthly walk or drive a straight line? here a little help take a ball lay a ruler on it look out little of the ruler touches not ball I say we can spiritually but what about fleshly walking or driven? Ok how many poles are still? I say there a north pole and a south pole along with a east and west pole! Ok we know were the south and north pole are but what about the east and west pole of this old earth Matbe the east pole is 1/2 way around the earth from were we are standing at any given second and the west pole would work the same so our east and west pole depend on were we are standing but there are poles of the heavens too just like there are - poles and + poles of flesh and spirit both but what do you think about walking or driven a straight line and what about the poles with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Wrote 03-27-2006 1. Listen to the words from above that I am hearing spoken to me by Jesus the Christ our Lord and Savior my dear friends. 2. I sat here hearing the loving words as they are passed from Christ the son of God to the seed of Christ in me the holy spirit the gift of Christ in me and then heard by my image of flesh in the center of the heart of my mind. 3. O how our God loves us by making a way to save us from death after death if we just let Christ come into our lives by believing which builds faith which is trust that God will do what God said he will do. 4. For I tell you before Christ was born in the form of flesh and then gave up his life of his own free will there was no way but only a promise that God would send his son to save us in due time. 5. The time has came but the work is not finish yet because there are many things still to happen all the trumpets must be sounded or all the signs of the second coming must come so the watcher can see them happen. 6. One by one until the last sign of the second coming has been seen, the sign of Jesus the Christ in the air and all the alive in Christ walk up to the clouds to sat along side of the dead in Christ. 7. Then the signs of the great day of judgement must begin and the first sign will be all that were not dead in Christ or alive in Christ will get up from the dead to walk in the form of fleshy life with a dead spirit to either be judge good or bad at the day of Judgment. 8. They will have a 1,000 years from the second coming to changed there ways from evil to good but the devil not wanted to die the second death alone will trick all he can. 9. But when the last sign or trump has sounded the day of judgment will began some will walk up to join us in the clouds but other will die the second death. 10. The day of judgement is the third coming of Jesus the Christ to the clouds to save all them that will be save but after the last one has been saved that can be saved the unjust will die the second death. 11. Now after all that lived to only die in the end are dead Jesus the Christ will destroy death of all kinds and all things will continue in a form that can not die. 12. Whether it be things like the third heaven and third earth, animal life, plant life, element life, household of God life, or whether kind of life there may be. 14. Now you ask about fleshily people living on this earth at the second coming of Jesus the Christ? There will be none because at the blink of the eye that we walk up to the clouds will be the second mankind destroys this earth. 15. You may ask if the earth is destroy how can mankind walk on this walk until the day of judgment? 16. What man can break Christ can fixed. But the old dragon the devil will take credit for what our Lord and Savior has done out of love. 17. But love is never in vain because some will see through the lies of the devil. Now you say what about the many who are killed for not worshiping the dragon. 18. The body can die a hundred times but the spirit can not, for the spirit is born dead so if its rose from the dead it strays alive whether the body walks or sits in the grave, the spirits flies in the heaven above. 19. Yes all mankind that ever lived were rose to live again but in the form of a dead spirit unless they received Christ in their lives by not being mark by the mark of dead but by the mark of life Christ in them. 20. What more can I tell you watch as you build up your trust in God my dear friends and reach out to others to help why we see the signs of the second coming happen one by one as told in the great book called the book of Revelations and many other books. 21. There are signs you will see happen until you see Christ in the air along with every eye whether animal kind, plant kind, element kind, or mankind will see Christ in the air. 22. Happy we will go up to the clouds but others will see Christ as a bright light of some kind coming to hit the earth and try to stop Christ in the clouds but in turn destroy their self. 23. But after Christ has rose all mankind that did not meet him in the air he will rise fleshly as he fixes the earth by healing it mankind will receive their last changed to love God has their creator. 24. The devil will lie saying he is Christ and rule the earth because he can trick some of the people awaiting the day of judgment unto living a lie. 25. Now we must work so this number of people awaiting the third coming the day of judgment is not as big as it would be. 26. But not only that but that some that are awaiting that day will recall our loving words and began to reach for God and his loving son the Christ. With love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved coolchef1248 @adelphia.net God loves you thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Goey God loves you my dear friend Yes East, West, North, and South thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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With Apologies to Jesus and the Trinity
year2027 replied to T-Bone's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved T-Bone God loves you my dear friend To me it does not matter if some one calls Jesus the Christ God as long as they love God and love The Jesus they call God too Or as long as they live love it does not matter to me any more But I will not lie about how I believe I see whether one thinks Jesus is God who was the son too or God be the father and Jesus be the son the Christ its just a small thing to me But on boards if I say Jesus the Christ the son of God on some boards I am called names and they teach me about trinity So I just go on and try to find people who just live Love with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Growing three or more ways 1. Lets reach to God to help us understand the many ways we can grow from the three or more kinds that we are made of my dear friends. 2. First we the people of this earth whether we believe in God or not grow from a drop of blood made out of dirt and water mix with another drop of blood (or DNA) made out of dirt and water which become a seed in the womb of the women our mother. 3. Yes these two parts of DNA begin as two differ parts one from our father the other from our mother and they are mix together in the bowl of our mother’s womb. These drop of DNA are made up of many Adams that mix with each making more and more as they are feed by our mother’s body in ways I may not completely understand. 4. This seed has a map on to how grow into a baby that looks like our father and mother mix together or some of our parts look like our father and others like our mother. It is like making a cake in our mother’s bowl known as her womb. 5. A half cup of our father’s DNA mixing with a half cup of our mother’s DNA . This seed or egg grows into a baby hook to our mother like a fruit on a apple tree until it is pick or falls off because it is ready be enjoy as a fruit. 6. Yes we are the fruit that was made by two and for us it was our father and mother but we grow hook to the limbs of our mother like a apple grows hook to the limbs of the apple tree. While the apple grows on the outside of the tree we grow on the inside of our mother. 7. Until we are born unto the seed of soul or we have a growth life outside our mother’s womb not depending on our mother only but we must breath for our self but our mother still feeds us from a her limbs for a short time. 8. While these food is no longer being feed inside the womb parts of our needs of food comes from the limbs of our mother or my our mother caring hands. Out side of mother we no longer depending on our mother to breath and control our body basis needs. 9. While we depend on our mother to give us food we must suck it in. While in the womb wasted was removed from us but outside the womb we must push our wasted out our self while depending on our mother to clean us up until we can do it our self. 10. Now outside of our mother we become a child that looks like our father and mother in many ways because we are of the two blood lines mix together making a new blood line or DNA kind. 11. That seed or egg in our mother grew like a fruit from the tree of our mother by the flowers or DNA of the tree of our father being mix with the flowers or DNA of our mother by the action of love. 12. This fruit we have become grows like the seeds of a apple grow in the grown until it become a tree of its own with the ability to grow flowers that can be mix to make a seed or egg like we were made of from our mother’s and father’s. 13. This is the second way we grow and the first was like a plant and second is more like a animal grows but a animal still grows the first way too. While plants only have growth life we and animals have the growth life plus soul growth life. 14. While our growth life stops when we leave our mother womb, plants only have growth life but we have soul life that begins the second we breath on our own. But this is not the only way we can grow. 15. Like our seed is made of two blood kinds or DNA kinds mixing together our spiritual growth life is made by Jesus the Christ blood line or DNA mixing with our blood of believing faith or DNA of believing mixing in the womb of God the Holy Spirit. 16. Our fleshly body is the seed or egg were our believing grows in the womb of God who we live in as does everything est because God is everywhere, then everything must be in God. 17. After a set amount of time as pass if we let Christ blood mix with our blood we are born to live like God but less than God outside the womb of God. 18. So we saw how we grow like plants, then how we grow like animals, then how we grow like Christ grew on earth spiritually as sons and daughters of God, and we look forward to see how we will grow like gods a beings with immortality or no end. 19. Now some will talk about when in the grave there is no conscience in the grave but just because in the grave there is no conscience does no mean our consciences stops when we die but that it is no longer stored in our bodies. 20. It is either moved to a spiritual body or stored in the conscience of God our spiritual father depending on when we die whether like Moses die before the coming of Jesus the Christ who was stored in the conscience of God until Christ won over death and Moses met Christ in the air at the first resurrection, of the dead the dead in Christ rose first. 21. Or if we be part of the alive in Christ the second we take our last breath of soul we are born from spiritual seed of Christ to a god of immortality but like a son of many years younger than God our father and this is the second resurrection the alive in Christ meting Christ in the air. 22. But the ones who did not received Christ in their life but live a righteous life by good works their conscience is stored in God until the day of judgment the third resurrection when the ones of good works receive a new body of immortality. 23. Now whether there be a fourth resurrection where the ones that live a ungodly life can received a new body after a time as past before death as been destroy I can only hope that God has made a way to changed the ways of the evil ones after just punishment has been given unto them by God. 24. But who am but a sinner that is blessed to received the love of God myself with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved allan w. God loves you my dear friend I am glad you are ready thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy