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God first God is an Atheist when it comes to money hungry men! 08-11-2011 As I pray to a God of love with truth that will not fail I find myself praying to an Atheist God that is realm truth that loves any persons no matter what they believe in or not. A God that has no laws to lays upon us just directs our paths we can follower or chose not to follower. An atheist God that lies in nothing, but gives love upon us with loving hand of friendship. Because God is sick of the greed of religious leaders of today churches of the hypocrites even blow themselves up and call it love. They take the money from the poor from having their needs not meet and have nice cars to drive and homes of more than they could ever need when the poor go hungry. This nation as a whole is getting wise in their greed as if their rightness is not of God but God does known them. Our government is falling into pieces from the greed of its leaders of government and church leaders. For years we have let the church gain power over us for nothing but greed of their selves it time to tax them and leave alone those business persons of possibly who have done their share. Who are willing to do their part in rebuilding us back to heath? Yes take their tax covering of hypocrites and there are more places we can make up the money we need for our government to have a balance budget without taking bad healthily and old persons of our nation. Our government senators and all person in changed need to agree to less pay with lost of their benefits we have foolish given them. Since we need more we can sale the US postal service to the highest bidder like UPS or other well-known business? Then once we do owe nobody make a Tax on things make over sea more than it would cost to make them here in the US making the employment would raise here. Then we would have a strong US economy banking systems. Then we can work on local government that needs fixing alone the rest of mix we got into. The local Food stamps need a few things to if we would a law that said if you get government support for anything you lost your money. Like if you found doing drugs that is not legal in all states otherwise one cannot do drugs while receiving money from the state program. There would be legal law that would force persons to pay a monetary amount plus lost benefit or get help stopping. The courts would see that person has got help or the does without aid making the person would work out their own mix not being on government aid of any kind. Dinking would against government rules so blood test would given, if you receive any government aid at all. The right to not give blood would honor but you would any aid that is wanted. Insurance companies get your records providing them with your possible drinking problem unless you get help so they order you to not get the reward of drinking without paying for it. Any sickness that you were born with the Insurance Company must cover the bill but any sickness that you cause it will be in your hands to pay for the cost. This way we can begin to be fare to everybody even the ones with the most riches persons are on even grounds. This is one of my ideals I have for our government to get us out of dept, that we have got in the last few years. Thank you with love and a holy kiss from Roy.

God first thanks cman and Steve the tearing down of believes is how one gets strong what I once believe to be truth is lies of yesterday my friends with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Socks Yes my friend with love and a holy kiss Roy

on another board Is there a hard and fast "truth"? I mean in anything at all. 1 + 1 = 2, unless you are working in binary. You might consider what you weigh to be fact, truth, but it is dependent on where you are. You likely weigh ever so slightly less at a high altitude or on the moon. When it comes to God, I think we are muddling through. Does anyone have truth? Does absolute truth matter? I am 65 years old. My beliefs have been evolving for 65 years, on anything you can name. When I was younger, I thought learning "facts" meant I knew something. As I've gotten older, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know. What learning has done for me is create more questions, more and more questions. Janet You're right. We weigh less on a high altitude or the moon because gravity is less on the moon or a high altitude. As far as 1 + 1 = 2, this is true also providing a person knows how to count and is honest. However, if we take the statements: (a) When we take one object (or unit) and add it to another, then the sum, after counting again the number of objects, "is" two objects. (b) When we take one object (or unit) and add it to another, then the sum, after counting again the number of objects, "is not" two objects. In the case of (b), the liar gets his ontology all backwards and knows it. What I'm driving at is the liar has knowledge of ontology and gets it backwards for the purpose of deceiving.

God first thanks Socks there are many tones in truth that make the sound of like-love-hate-love-like I am hearing God teaches me by being wiling to be a fool I am wise socks that which sounds wrong is right with God with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Kit Sober and cman and socks and Steve Lortz the book of Genesis has both Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. God's truth Genesis 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Eve truth Eve had every right her person truth that was only limit it does make it less the truth in Eve mind she was right truth is not black and white there degrees of truth were we do know enough there degrees of lies were we do not know enough God kills people or destroy them I can find it in the Bible God kills people to make them better God destroy people to make them better John 10:10 the thief {Christ| cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I {Christ} am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I {Christ} am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his {Christ} life for the sheep. you have to see truth as more than your minds could handle and Less than you think as the lie that I once believe with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Kit Sober whether you believe or not Eve changed the truth of God by adding unto it truth is not truth when you add anything to it both are written in the book of Genesis with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Ham you make me laugh and smile my friend with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first Christ is planting seed of himself here! 08-02-06-2011 Jesus taught us about the seed of a plant because he was using himself, as an example of what Christ was about to bring into the world of flesh. A seed was what Christ missing factor in the mixture of life because it was the part that die that very day. Genesis 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. They were naked or marom {aw-rome'}; from aram (in its original sense); nude, either partially or totally -- naked. Without God’s dressing of spirit covering over them of spiritual life in them but not dead yet just undress of God glory. Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Now this serpent was Adam and Eve fleshly glory of flesh the thing made them dress with Godly things or dress with fleshly things. But did this serpent first come into picture in the first place Genesis 1:25. Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. This is first we read Beast of earth is no different than beast of the field, which is the serpent our old man that we will see later. Our old ways that we live by but lets watch closer to the story of the beginning of life. Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Their spiritual eyes were open and hid themselves in figs of plant life because knew they were naked without God’s covering over them they were dead spiritually. Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. This life kind would die and because God cannot we must die somehow or another because life on fleshly that very day we must have die spiritual. Adam lived nine hundred and thirty years fleshly but Adam die spiritual that very day. Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. To understand the big picture of spirit life over fleshly one must understand what is in the hope of salvation in Christ seed. To understand what it is to plant the seed of Christ in a person one must understand how seed of man is planted. Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. This word begat and born is better translated conceive Joseph of whom Mary conceive not born but conceive is the uses of the words. Greek words begat and born are our 1080 genná_ – properly, beget (procreate a descendant), produce offspring; (passive) be born, "begotten." So conceive is a better word it is bring offspring into this world of flesh but lets look forward more with the meaning of words. For this we go back to the first place God used the word that we can find and Jesus walk. Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2029 Hebrew word to conceive, become pregnant - am (1), ancestors (1), child (1), conceive (3), conceived (35), conceives (1), conceiving (1), pregnant (1). After must prayer and thinking of how our body work I came to understood conceive was a word that fixed more rightly than born but we will look more. Lets look at Jesus planting seeds in all men kind. Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Espoused birth (2), genealogy (1), life (1), natural (1). Greek 1078 birth, lineage, descent. Jesus Christ was son God making his lineage holy and pure making his conceiving of the Holy Spirit. His nature was of God without sin holding him back in any way know to mankind. Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. Greek 1080. gennaó for conceive d from the Greek word 1078 espoused. Matthew 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: Jesus Christ was the seed that was sowed as the image of truth. Matthew 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? Matthew 13:11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. 18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. Hear the truth Jesus Christ what that was sowed. Matthew 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22 He also that received among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. You see the pattern seed is panted by seed being sowed and than fruit comes but is fruit of us humans. Psalms 92:13 Those that be planted in the house of the LORD shall flourish in the courts of our God. 14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing; Proverbs 11:18 The wicked worketh a deceitful work: but to him that soweth righteousness shall be a sure reward. Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. Genesis 1:11 And God said , Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Ecclesiastes 11:4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap. 5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. 6 In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good. 7 Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for the eyes to behold the sun: 8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity. 9 Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment. 10 Therefore remove sorrow from thy heart, and put away evil from thy flesh: for childhood and youth are vanity. One can know the fruit human kind is placing male seed in the woman’s sex organ to mix together as one child the fruit of the two coming together as one. But lets see more of why God had man swear by his seed of life giving organ. Deuteronomy 23:1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. Genesis 38:8-10 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 1 Samuel 18:25-27 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. Exodus 4:24-25 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. Deuteronomy 25:11-12 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her. These parts of private were what gave men offspring to carry on his family line unto all that witness. It was in this part life was given unto all mankind when place inside the woman body to dance with egg making a new creature of life. But God plants the ideal of love to dance inside of your heart with your heart making a new creature of his kind. 1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Christ’s spiritual seed part that were given unto us the lesser part of the new creature because we are in Christ forming our new creature. You are one part of the blood the lesser part because you were under sin and you are free from when the birth happens. But until that day you renew your mind in the truth. Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away , to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh , and put him to an open shame . We kill ourselves daily as we sin in our flesh while our new creature of Christ is being form in us the new creature of us to be born the day we die. But until that day comes we are still in sin that we do each day of our lives. Thank you with love and a holy kiss Roy.

God first Christ is planting seed of himself here! 08-02-06-2011 Jesus taught us about the seed of a plant because he was using himself, as an example of what Christ was about to bring into the world of flesh. A seed was what Christ missing factor in the mixture of life because it was the part that die that very day. Genesis 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. They were naked or marom {aw-rome'}; from aram (in its original sense); nude, either partially or totally -- naked. Without God’s dressing of spirit covering over them of spiritual life in them but not dead yet just undress of God glory. Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Now this serpent was Adam and Eve fleshly glory of flesh the thing made them dress with Godly things or dress with fleshly things. But did this serpent first come into picture in the first place Genesis 1:25. Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. This is first we read Beast of earth is no different than beast of the field, which is the serpent our old man that we will see later. Our old ways that we live by but lets watch closer to the story of the beginning of life. Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Their spiritual eyes were open and hid themselves in figs of plant life because knew they were naked without God’s covering over them they were dead spiritually. Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. This life kind would die and because God cannot we must die somehow or another because life on fleshly that very day we must have die spiritual. Adam lived nine hundred and thirty years fleshly but Adam die spiritual that very day. Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. To understand the big picture of spirit life over fleshly one must understand what is in the hope of salvation in Christ seed. To understand what it is to plant the seed of Christ in a person one must understand how seed of man is planted. Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. This word begat and born is better translated conceive Joseph of whom Mary conceive not born but conceive is the uses of the words. Greek words begat and born are our 1080 genná_ – properly, beget (procreate a descendant), produce offspring; (passive) be born, "begotten." So conceive is a better word it is bring offspring into this world of flesh but lets look forward more with the meaning of words. For this we go back to the first place God used the word that we can find and Jesus walk. Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2029 Hebrew word to conceive, become pregnant - am (1), ancestors (1), child (1), conceive (3), conceived (35), conceives (1), conceiving (1), pregnant (1). After must prayer and thinking of how our body work I came to understood conceive was a word that fixed more rightly than born but we will look more. Lets look at Jesus planting seeds in all men kind. Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Espoused birth (2), genealogy (1), life (1), natural (1). Greek 1078 birth, lineage, descent. Jesus Christ was son God making his lineage holy and pure making his conceiving of the Holy Spirit. His nature was of God without sin holding him back in any way know to mankind. Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. Greek 1080. gennaó for conceive d from the Greek word 1078 espoused. Matthew 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: Jesus Christ was the seed that was sowed as the image of truth. Matthew 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? Matthew 13:11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. 18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. Hear the truth Jesus Christ what that was sowed. Matthew 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22 He also that received among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. You see the pattern seed is panted by seed being sowed and than fruit comes but is fruit of us humans. Psalms 92:13 Those that be planted in the house of the LORD shall flourish in the courts of our God. 14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing; Proverbs 11:18 The wicked worketh a deceitful work: but to him that soweth righteousness shall be a sure reward. Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. Genesis 1:11 And God said , Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Ecclesiastes 11:4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap. 5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. 6 In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good. 7 Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for the eyes to behold the sun: 8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity. 9 Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment. 10 Therefore remove sorrow from thy heart, and put away evil from thy flesh: for childhood and youth are vanity. One can know the fruit human kind is placing male seed in the woman’s sex organ to mix together as one child the fruit of the two coming together as one. But lets see more of why God had man swear by his seed of life giving organ. Deuteronomy 23:1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. Genesis 38:8-10 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 1 Samuel 18:25-27 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. Exodus 4:24-25 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. Deuteronomy 25:11-12 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her. These parts of private were what gave men offspring to carry on his family line unto all that witness. It was in this part life was given unto all mankind when place inside the woman body to dance with egg making a new creature of life. But God plants the ideal of love to dance inside of your heart with your heart making a new creature of his kind. 1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Christ’s spiritual seed part that were given unto us the lesser part of the new creature because we are in Christ forming our new creature. You are one part of the blood the lesser part because you were under sin and you are free from when the birth happens. But until that day you renew your mind in the truth. Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away , to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh , and put him to an open shame . We kill ourselves daily as we sin in our flesh while our new creature of Christ is being form in us the new creature of us to be born the day we die. But until that day comes we are still in sin that we do each day of our lives. Thank you with love and a holy kiss Roy.

God first thanks Ham and wayside and Twinky Ham - yes my friend wayside - I understood Music to see if off note but I not has musical as you my friend Twinky - yes it is my friend with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first When does truth become a lie? 07-31-2011 Truth is truth and a lie is a lie or is truth a lie and a lie is truth otherwise when they change meaning all together? When religions are added to the truth you walk by than it becomes the lie I warned you about in earlier words unto you. Love is a true that we all believe in but we do not believe in God but God is truth that we been told about. God is God until you make it a law that one must believe in because then you make God a religion laws that one must follower. But God is more than a religious law that one must live by for bad things not to happen to the person. While God is the emotion of Love and there cannot be a God it does matter what one believes to God. God is not some man in heaven God is the emotion of love coming out of yourself every time you love something with all of your heart. One might enjoy hating something but that comes the flesh you were taught to hate but one had to teach you to love it a natural emotion but someone had to hate you first. Love is in our DNA to love our body so it is a truth written in our DNA but love comes naturally has our body fight to live. Religion can be good when people understands that is just a way that is better for some and not a law that we have to live by just a direction we can live by. No one has to believe in God and no one has to obey his commandments it is every personal choice to follower or not. But love is not that simple because it is emotions you cannot escape from even that God which God has said to be love one does have to believe in love believe in that it is. I do not care if you believe me or not it does not matter the only thing that matters is what I believe in my heart of my soul and my seed of Christ. It does not change a thing to me nor will it matter to some of you but the Religion person everything matters because they want to control us. Thank you with love and a holy kiss from Roy

God first thanks cman and johnj cman - it not all questions fare or one more than one can think about johnj - Paul is not a human being what a theory you purpose on us with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks faith no more I understand and do ask for money it is simple to me with love and love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Ham yes I have that one learn well because love you all persons here I grant you its the same has talking voice to voice but an relationship of two males and mixed sexes maybe the question is not what Paul but how Paul touch mine? was Paul Immaturity at a point where Paul judge others their sins? because Paul would have to immaturity to worry one sin over the rest with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks everybody I have sex problem sometimes I want it anything will do But I most control the thought but sometimes I watch on the net it only once a in about a year I break that break in view it my TV-computer and about every three years I have have it live am I wrong to so weak that I can not control my own Body when I was in my 20's I had less control over it that being honest about it about you have do you think about it because I learn more control over sex than of us we all deal with it in peace in safely of our own bodies but not hiding anything is not hiding in anything what are you hiding in dark with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first I am the beast of the field, which the LORD God had made! 07-27-2011 Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: The woman is the flesh in all of us I am Eve and you are Eve we all have this limited nature as part of us there no hiding from it. We are what we are but with Christ help we can bloom out of it. Christ conceived us by given his life for us this lower creature this beast in us of the world of flesh. Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. You see the field is this world and the serpent is each other no matter who you are the fight is to more like Christ. The battle is between our fleshly minds and our spiritual minds of truth because all lying come from our fleshly mind but our spiritual mind cannot lie it is impossible for the spirit to lie because I my worse enemy. I am that which hold me back the lesser creature the beast of this word that which God made flesh. So who is the beast in Genesis and in Revelation my fleshly side of us the nature sides we all must over come in life with God’s help? The lesson is about us we walk fleshly and we walk spiritually we battle with ourselves every day we live in this world. Thank you with God’s love and man’s love and a holy kiss from the love of God in Roy. what is being honest? being truthful to yourself who should be honest to? yourself

God first I am the beast of the field, which the LORD God had made! 07-27-2011 Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: The woman is the flesh in all of us I am Eve and you are Eve we all have this limited nature as part of us there no hiding from it. We are what we are but with Christ help we can bloom out of it. Christ conceived us by given his life for us this lower creature this beast in us of the world of flesh. Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. You see the field is this world and the serpent is each other no matter who you are the fight is to more like Christ. The battle is between our fleshly minds and our spiritual minds of truth because all lying come from our fleshly mind but our spiritual mind cannot lie it is impossible for the spirit to lie because I my worse enemy. I am that which hold me back the lesser creature the beast of this word that which God made flesh. So who is the beast in Genesis and in Revelation my fleshly side of us the nature sides we all must over come in life with God’s help? The lesson is about us we walk fleshly and we walk spiritually we battle with ourselves every day we live in this world. Thank you with God’s love and man’s love and a holy kiss from the love of God in Roy.

God first What is true love of God? 07-25-2011 If we give it fare shake God’s love is not what one would think because be told in one law nor can it be in one book it must that is right in our heart. Some say the bible tells all of God’s rules to live in truth but how can it just the written form. Otherwise there more to it what wrote down God is greater than anything ever wrote or will be written down. Take the homosexual sin if one is doing any act that destroy God’s plan for our body they have commit a sin but anyone tries to reproof the person without cleaning up their self they have sinned. Otherwise the person must be without sin before the person yells at the person that has done the sin in the first place. Otherwise the person is in trouble with God’s truth by not taking the sin out their view first. Even the yelling is a sin if you it out controlling the person committing without doing no sin otherwise what you believe must be right to God. One can see one sin leads to many more sins that is why we pray to God for forgiveness of sin that we are in because we are flesh creatures first of man and complete second spirit creatures of God. We all sin in pride of flesh as we growth into our perfect life that will come after this one. We have not become like Christ we are still reaching for the day where we see has God is in the form of Christ live to lead us unto. Everyday we live in our fleshly bodies we get that must closer our birth were Christ is form inside our hearts by removing our flesh body so our spiritual body shines in us. We all are sinners caught up in our sinful lust we were born into on the day of our birth but one day we shall be as Christ is now. If we love our brother we do not condemn him because we are in the same boat otherwise we are greater than our homosexual brother, our fat brother, our slow in mind brother, our to thin brother, or any sin that can divide our sin from others. They can all be forgiven and they’re all just a sin. If you think your better than me pride is at your door about enter yourself making your house a place for evil will grow. If you do not relies it you will be bitter in all your actions of as you will make your house of the devils ideals in your heart and there will be no place for Christ to grow out of you. Thank you with love and a holy kiss from Roy.

God first thanks Ham and waysider and socks and frank123lo Ham we battle our lives not to sin so would change nothing because we would be sinner Waysider me too but we not here to judge wienerville sins but our own sins socks you yourself to think the way you do you were taught by someone - are you the best or just average we were taught are better than others but we have it was the lie the way ministry push on us frank123lo yes No to it also yes it with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first a friend wrote this Lets break verse Psalms 53:1 down and see what insight we can gain from it. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. It is easy to direct this verse at the unbeliever but 1Tim3:16 state to us that all scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and for instruction in righteousness. So in that light lets see what we can glean from it. The fool hath said in his heart Lets focus on where the problem is here and it is easy to see it is the heart. There are two things that FORM our soul: the motives of the heart and the activities of the mind. God associates the heart with 'heaven' and the mind with 'earth'. God dwells in the heart and this is where he can direct our will. God is in Christ (2Cor 5:19) which is the power to change us into Gods image. There is no God. Corrupt are they, The heart is the temple that Christ wants sit in but when we experience the visitation there is someone else there, the man of sin who is antichrist in nature. The KINGdom of God is WITHIN. and have done abominable iniquity: The heart of all men is considered a desolate abomination to him and this is where the war in heaven takes place it is the battle for who controls the heart. This is the first part of our tribulation in the unveiling (apocalypse) of the law of God, his salvation and his power in our lives (hence the name LORD-YESHUA-CHRISTOS). there is none that doeth good. The MAN who is formed into the image of God knows how to distinguish good (functional things) from evil (dysfunctional things). He no longer misses the mark (sin) because the Spirit of God is free to live within him and guide him. 1Tim3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Psalms 53:1 connects the themes of God, heart and abominable iniquity. If people could only see that the answers for the inner man are all in the scriptures. Sadly they want to see these spiritual things in the light of speculation about natural end-time scenarios. JB When God visit us we go through two major events: (1) The conquest for the HEART, which is the first half of the tribulation, and (2) The conquest for the MIND, which is the second half of our tribulation. This tribulation is spoken of in John. John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have peace In the world you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. On the road to Damascus, Paul was knocked off his horse (a symbol of will power). And his will would fall to earth (mind) as the power and principalities where purged from his heart. The Lord did this part, but he let Paul deal with where they fell. They fell to earth (mind) and persecuted him. Pauls epistles focus on working out our salvation so that we become co-heirs in God. He said put on the MIND of CHRIST. JB Here are some great scripture concerning the renewing of the mind by James A Fowler. See how they link together to give is a picture of this second work. RENEWING THE MIND I. Representative Biblical references A. Attitudes of mind that need to be renewed Rom. 1:28 - "a depraved mind, to do things which are not proper" Rom. 8:5,7 - "mind set on the flesh" Rom. 12:16 - "haughty in mind" II Cor. 4:4 - "blinded the minds of unbelieving" II Cor. 11:3 - "minds led astray from simplicity and purity to Christ" Eph. 2:3 - "the desires of the flesh and of the mind" Eph. 4:17 - "the futility of their mind" Phil. 3:19 - "set their minds on earthly things" Col. 1:21 - "alienated and hostile in mind" Col. 2:18 - "inflated without cause by a fleshly mind" Titus 1:15 - "their mind and their conscience are defiled" B. Calls for renewal Rom. 12:2 - "be transformed by the renewing of your mind" II Cor. 4:16 - "our inner man is being renewed day by day" Eph. 4:23 - "be renewed in the spirit of your mind" Col. 3:10 - "the new man is being renewed to a true knowledge..." Titus 3:5 - "renewing by the Holy Spirit" C. Attitudes of a renewed mind Isa. 26:3 - "the steadfast of mind Thou wilt keep in perfect peace" Jere. 17:10 - "I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind" Jere. 20:12 - "The Lord who seest the mind and the heart" Matt. 22:37 - "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength" Rom. 14:5 - "let each man be fully convinced in his own mind" I Cor. 2:16 - "we have the mind of Christ" Phil. 2:5 - "have this mind in you which was also in Christ Jesus" Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let your mind dwell on these..." Col. 3:2 - "set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth" Heb. 8:10; 10:16 - "I will put my laws into their minds" I Pet. 1:13 - "gird your minds for action" Rev. 2:23 - "I am He who searches the minds and hearts" II. Why does the mind need to be renewed? A. The mind has been programmed with natural "established attitudes" 1. These are the beliefs, thoughts, ideas, opinions, convictions, prejudices that we have concerning ourselves, others, objects, activities, God, etc. 2. How were these formed? a. recommendation (1) of parents (2) of educational system (3) of society (books, television, movies, etc.) (4) of religious training b. reflection (1) personal observation (2) personal experience (3) personal compromise 3. These "established attitudes" permeated with fleshly "personal interest" of selfishness and sinfulness. a. Act: personal aspiration, gratification, reputation b. React: fight, fright, flight B. If there was a mental-video device that could record all the thoughts that go through your mind, would you want to play it back for everyone? 1. God knows our every thought Jere. 17:10 - "I, the Lord, search the heart; I test the mind" Jere. 20:12 - "The Lord seest the mind and the heart" Rev. 2:23 - "I am He who searches the minds and hearts" 2. Does this not reveal the necessity of renewing the mind? C. The mind needs to be renewed with Godly "established attitudes" 1. Initial and continual renewal of the mind a. Initial renewal - regenerative renewal Titus 3:5 - "regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit" I Cor. 2:16 - "you have the mind of Christ" Heb. 8:10; 10:16 - "I will put my laws in their hearts" b. Continual renewal - sanctifying renewal Phil. 2:5 - "Have this mind in you which was in Christ" Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let minds dwell Col. 3:2 - "set your minds on things above" 2. The thoughts and attitudes of the mind serve as the conduits which allow for the mobilization of Godly behavior by divine energizing. Prov. 23:7 - "As a man thinks in his soul, so is he (in behavior) I Pet. 1:13 - "gird your minds for action" D. The combination of our "established attitudes" develop into a "mind-set" 1. Mind-set about ourselves a. false sense of identity b. external orientation - "how do I look?" c. guilt - attitudes of worthlessness, inferiority 2. Mind-set about other people a. people pleasing - self-conscious b. vain imaginations - fears, phobias c. attitudes of anger, impatience, hate, bitterness, resentment, revenge, suspicion, criticism, jealousy, unforgiveness, blame, depression, co-dependency 3. Mind-set about things a. materialism - "what am I going to buy next?" b. love things - use people c. addictions to substances, objects, etc. 4. Mind-set about ideas a. quest for knowledge b. desire to be correct, accurate, right 5. Mind-set about situations a. what might happen; the hypothetical - worry b. panic about inability to cope 6. Mind-set about God a. irrelevant, archaic, out-moded, unnecessary b. external, peripheral safety net; mystical, magical III. How can the mind be renewed to develop Godly "established attitudes"? A. Established attitudes re-formed to coincide with God's attitudes 1. Consistent with His character - purity, righteousness, love, joy 2. "Made new again" a. Greek anakainoo: ana=again; kainos=new b. Greek ananeoo: ana=again; neos=new 3. In accord with the a. newness of life in Jesus Christ - Rom. 6:4 b. newness of the Spirit - Rom. 7:6 c. new covenant - Heb. 8:8,13 d. new and living way - Heb. 10:20 e. new creature - II Cor. 5:17 f. new man - Eph. 4:24; Col. 3:10 B. Basis of Godly "established attitudes" is God's revelation of Himself 1. Natural revelation Ps. 19:1,2 - "the heavens declare the glory of God..." Rom. 1:20 - "His attributes have been seen...through what he made" 2. Incarnational revelation Lk. 10:22 - "the Son will reveal Him" Jn. 1:18 - "He has explained Him" 3. Biblical revelation II Tim. 3:16 - "all Scripture is inspired by God" Not just Bible knowledge of Bible data or trivia 4. Personal revelation Phil. 3:15 - "God will reveal it to you" Rom. 14:5 - "let each man be fully convinced in his own mind" C. Requires personal discipline to renew Godly established attitudes. I Tim. 4:7 - "discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness" 1. Undisciplined minds and thinking retain natural attitudes 2. This is not the self-discipline of self-effort 3. We must discipline (exercise) our minds and thoughts to allow for Godly action mobilized through Godly established attitudes D. A "mind-set" settled on God and His activity. 1. A "steadfast mind" set on the things of God Prov. 16:3 - "your thoughts shall be established" Isa. 26:3 - "the steadfast of mind Thou wilt keep in perfect peace" a. Not an idle mind - daydreaming, procrastinating, wasting time, fantasizing b. Mind set on God's character and His ways Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let your mind dwell on these..." Col. 3:2 - "set your mind on things above... 2. A "mind-set" that spontaneously thinks of God and His activity a. "Yes, Lord" (1) temptation (2) worship b. Joy - Phil. 4:4; I Thess. 5:16 c. Laughter - Prov. 15:13; 17:22 d. Song in your heart - Eph. 5:19 e. Love for others - Rom. 5:5; Jn. 13:34 E. Practical necessity of "renewing of mind" for Godly behavior 1. Change in form of thinking and behavior (transformation) comes as an indirect result of renewal of mind - Rom. 12:2 2. Cannot reverse: External nonconformity does not lead to behavioral transformation - Col. 2:20-23 3. Based on spiritual regeneration and becoming a "new man" in Christ, the Christian has the indwelling spiritual sufficiency to engage in the renewing of the mind that allows for divinely empowered Christian behavior - Eph. 4:23; Col. 3:10 http://www.christinyou.net/pages/renewmind.html (Reproduced in accordance with the author wishes)

God first a friend wrote this Lets break verse Psalms 53:1 down and see what insight we can gain from it. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. It is easy to direct this verse at the unbeliever but 1Tim3:16 state to us that all scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and for instruction in righteousness. So in that light lets see what we can glean from it. The fool hath said in his heart Lets focus on where the problem is here and it is easy to see it is the heart. There are two things that FORM our soul: the motives of the heart and the activities of the mind. God associates the heart with 'heaven' and the mind with 'earth'. God dwells in the heart and this is where he can direct our will. God is in Christ (2Cor 5:19) which is the power to change us into Gods image. There is no God. Corrupt are they, The heart is the temple that Christ wants sit in but when we experience the visitation there is someone else there, the man of sin who is antichrist in nature. The KINGdom of God is WITHIN. and have done abominable iniquity: The heart of all men is considered a desolate abomination to him and this is where the war in heaven takes place it is the battle for who controls the heart. This is the first part of our tribulation in the unveiling (apocalypse) of the law of God, his salvation and his power in our lives (hence the name LORD-YESHUA-CHRISTOS). there is none that doeth good. The MAN who is formed into the image of God knows how to distinguish good (functional things) from evil (dysfunctional things). He no longer misses the mark (sin) because the Spirit of God is free to live within him and guide him. 1Tim3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Psalms 53:1 connects the themes of God, heart and abominable iniquity. If people could only see that the answers for the inner man are all in the scriptures. Sadly they want to see these spiritual things in the light of speculation about natural end-time scenarios. JB When God visit us we go through two major events: (1) The conquest for the HEART, which is the first half of the tribulation, and (2) The conquest for the MIND, which is the second half of our tribulation. This tribulation is spoken of in John. John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have peace In the world you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. On the road to Damascus, Paul was knocked off his horse (a symbol of will power). And his will would fall to earth (mind) as the power and principalities where purged from his heart. The Lord did this part, but he let Paul deal with where they fell. They fell to earth (mind) and persecuted him. Pauls epistles focus on working out our salvation so that we become co-heirs in God. He said put on the MIND of CHRIST. JB Here are some great scripture concerning the renewing of the mind by James A Fowler. See how they link together to give is a picture of this second work. RENEWING THE MIND I. Representative Biblical references A. Attitudes of mind that need to be renewed Rom. 1:28 - "a depraved mind, to do things which are not proper" Rom. 8:5,7 - "mind set on the flesh" Rom. 12:16 - "haughty in mind" II Cor. 4:4 - "blinded the minds of unbelieving" II Cor. 11:3 - "minds led astray from simplicity and purity to Christ" Eph. 2:3 - "the desires of the flesh and of the mind" Eph. 4:17 - "the futility of their mind" Phil. 3:19 - "set their minds on earthly things" Col. 1:21 - "alienated and hostile in mind" Col. 2:18 - "inflated without cause by a fleshly mind" Titus 1:15 - "their mind and their conscience are defiled" B. Calls for renewal Rom. 12:2 - "be transformed by the renewing of your mind" II Cor. 4:16 - "our inner man is being renewed day by day" Eph. 4:23 - "be renewed in the spirit of your mind" Col. 3:10 - "the new man is being renewed to a true knowledge..." Titus 3:5 - "renewing by the Holy Spirit" C. Attitudes of a renewed mind Isa. 26:3 - "the steadfast of mind Thou wilt keep in perfect peace" Jere. 17:10 - "I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind" Jere. 20:12 - "The Lord who seest the mind and the heart" Matt. 22:37 - "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength" Rom. 14:5 - "let each man be fully convinced in his own mind" I Cor. 2:16 - "we have the mind of Christ" Phil. 2:5 - "have this mind in you which was also in Christ Jesus" Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let your mind dwell on these..." Col. 3:2 - "set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth" Heb. 8:10; 10:16 - "I will put my laws into their minds" I Pet. 1:13 - "gird your minds for action" Rev. 2:23 - "I am He who searches the minds and hearts" II. Why does the mind need to be renewed? A. The mind has been programmed with natural "established attitudes" 1. These are the beliefs, thoughts, ideas, opinions, convictions, prejudices that we have concerning ourselves, others, objects, activities, God, etc. 2. How were these formed? a. recommendation (1) of parents (2) of educational system (3) of society (books, television, movies, etc.) (4) of religious training b. reflection (1) personal observation (2) personal experience (3) personal compromise 3. These "established attitudes" permeated with fleshly "personal interest" of selfishness and sinfulness. a. Act: personal aspiration, gratification, reputation b. React: fight, fright, flight B. If there was a mental-video device that could record all the thoughts that go through your mind, would you want to play it back for everyone? 1. God knows our every thought Jere. 17:10 - "I, the Lord, search the heart; I test the mind" Jere. 20:12 - "The Lord seest the mind and the heart" Rev. 2:23 - "I am He who searches the minds and hearts" 2. Does this not reveal the necessity of renewing the mind? C. The mind needs to be renewed with Godly "established attitudes" 1. Initial and continual renewal of the mind a. Initial renewal - regenerative renewal Titus 3:5 - "regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit" I Cor. 2:16 - "you have the mind of Christ" Heb. 8:10; 10:16 - "I will put my laws in their hearts" b. Continual renewal - sanctifying renewal Phil. 2:5 - "Have this mind in you which was in Christ" Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let minds dwell Col. 3:2 - "set your minds on things above" 2. The thoughts and attitudes of the mind serve as the conduits which allow for the mobilization of Godly behavior by divine energizing. Prov. 23:7 - "As a man thinks in his soul, so is he (in behavior) I Pet. 1:13 - "gird your minds for action" D. The combination of our "established attitudes" develop into a "mind-set" 1. Mind-set about ourselves a. false sense of identity b. external orientation - "how do I look?" c. guilt - attitudes of worthlessness, inferiority 2. Mind-set about other people a. people pleasing - self-conscious b. vain imaginations - fears, phobias c. attitudes of anger, impatience, hate, bitterness, resentment, revenge, suspicion, criticism, jealousy, unforgiveness, blame, depression, co-dependency 3. Mind-set about things a. materialism - "what am I going to buy next?" b. love things - use people c. addictions to substances, objects, etc. 4. Mind-set about ideas a. quest for knowledge b. desire to be correct, accurate, right 5. Mind-set about situations a. what might happen; the hypothetical - worry b. panic about inability to cope 6. Mind-set about God a. irrelevant, archaic, out-moded, unnecessary b. external, peripheral safety net; mystical, magical III. How can the mind be renewed to develop Godly "established attitudes"? A. Established attitudes re-formed to coincide with God's attitudes 1. Consistent with His character - purity, righteousness, love, joy 2. "Made new again" a. Greek anakainoo: ana=again; kainos=new b. Greek ananeoo: ana=again; neos=new 3. In accord with the a. newness of life in Jesus Christ - Rom. 6:4 b. newness of the Spirit - Rom. 7:6 c. new covenant - Heb. 8:8,13 d. new and living way - Heb. 10:20 e. new creature - II Cor. 5:17 f. new man - Eph. 4:24; Col. 3:10 B. Basis of Godly "established attitudes" is God's revelation of Himself 1. Natural revelation Ps. 19:1,2 - "the heavens declare the glory of God..." Rom. 1:20 - "His attributes have been seen...through what he made" 2. Incarnational revelation Lk. 10:22 - "the Son will reveal Him" Jn. 1:18 - "He has explained Him" 3. Biblical revelation II Tim. 3:16 - "all Scripture is inspired by God" Not just Bible knowledge of Bible data or trivia 4. Personal revelation Phil. 3:15 - "God will reveal it to you" Rom. 14:5 - "let each man be fully convinced in his own mind" C. Requires personal discipline to renew Godly established attitudes. I Tim. 4:7 - "discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness" 1. Undisciplined minds and thinking retain natural attitudes 2. This is not the self-discipline of self-effort 3. We must discipline (exercise) our minds and thoughts to allow for Godly action mobilized through Godly established attitudes D. A "mind-set" settled on God and His activity. 1. A "steadfast mind" set on the things of God Prov. 16:3 - "your thoughts shall be established" Isa. 26:3 - "the steadfast of mind Thou wilt keep in perfect peace" a. Not an idle mind - daydreaming, procrastinating, wasting time, fantasizing b. Mind set on God's character and His ways Phil. 4:8 - "whatever is true, right, pure...let your mind dwell on these..." Col. 3:2 - "set your mind on things above... 2. A "mind-set" that spontaneously thinks of God and His activity a. "Yes, Lord" (1) temptation (2) worship b. Joy - Phil. 4:4; I Thess. 5:16 c. Laughter - Prov. 15:13; 17:22 d. Song in your heart - Eph. 5:19 e. Love for others - Rom. 5:5; Jn. 13:34 E. Practical necessity of "renewing of mind" for Godly behavior 1. Change in form of thinking and behavior (transformation) comes as an indirect result of renewal of mind - Rom. 12:2 2. Cannot reverse: External nonconformity does not lead to behavioral transformation - Col. 2:20-23 3. Based on spiritual regeneration and becoming a "new man" in Christ, the Christian has the indwelling spiritual sufficiency to engage in the renewing of the mind that allows for divinely empowered Christian behavior - Eph. 4:23; Col. 3:10 http://www.christinyou.net/pages/renewmind.html (Reproduced in accordance with the author wishes)

God first thanks Socks Hiding message are why we study God word 2 Tim 2:15 is why study God's word to give meaning to ourself or our-lives I have not known any person that has not had to handle the thought of lust of one of same gender in their life at least once because I am talking an ideal of homosexual not the act to not do we have to think about it even for half second how other one known the different from being homosexual than not you had the thought any your pride will not let you be honest with it with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first Wierwille taught us from Psalms 53:1 he twisted the meaning! 07-14-2011 I look at with an honest heart but Wierwille had his personal gain in mind to get my money and your money from your wallet. Because this verse does not have meaning he gave it you will see how must greet he had has and you have. I wrote this to point the fool is not who you thought it we are fool this believe. God first Who is the fool in Psalms 53:1? 07-13-2011 Psalms 53:1 KJV The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Who is the fool here every person under the sun just like the next person we had the thought that there is no God. Jesus Christ taught thinking is doing it because we all had that thought we all humans. Just like the homosexual thought we all had it while most of us do not take action on this thought but we had it one time or another. That what Paul was getting at when he said Romans 7:15 “For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I” otherwise the thought that he had and allow in his heart he hates. The thought was the sin that of the heart because that where all sin begins in the heart. You have an ideal in your inner self of anything even homosexual because had one time or another but some of us are honest about it. That is removing everything from yourself has you clean up your thoughts of everything only then you are honest to yourself and God. Otherwise to empty yourself is to empty every thought you ever had to Christ because you’re not honest with yourself how can be to God or how God be honest with you. That why I call myself a fool because next to God I am a fool because every thought is nothing to God. That why God looks at the desires of us and not our hearts because every person is a sinner in their heart but our desires are to not sin. That why Paul said that which I hate I do and allow the very thought Paul did and allow to happen was a sin. Paul was a man like the rest of us with human emotions in us or thoughts of sin but greatest desire was of love. Otherwise Paul desirer was to do what right in God eyes not Paul’s eyes what he saw others doing in their life but Paul being honest to God Paul known he was not without sin only Christ was without sin. I getting tired now thank you with love and a holy kiss from Roy. My friend posted this on a board to show someone one was wrong about “Was the Apostle Paul... Gay...? By Pope Reverend I, BV (no login)” this verse in KJV Luke 17:34 “I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. 36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left. 37 And they answered and said to Him, Where, Lord?” Were both post reasonable I do not know but it was a subject the Way Ministry said a lot about because they wanted cut down homosexuals. WordWolf said “[First of all, this should be in DOCTRINAL, because this is about DOCTRINE, and is clearly not "ABOUT THE WAY." So, I'll ask the mods to move this thread.” Was WordWolf being fare and honest to this subject no he let pride get in his way. But because I known his heart I am trying correct the misleading mistake that was WordWolf made in his understanding. But I was not being fare and honest to WordWolf either I let pride get my way too because I did not explain it to WordWolf my friend. You see no one is with out blame for this like everyone has had homosexual’s thoughts in their life at least once. With love and a holy kiss from Roy.