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God first Beloved all God loves us all --------------------------------------------------------------- here a joke I got my E-mail Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, while awaiting their respective flights. One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show, and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East. Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes. Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few." The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?" The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a smooth drawl, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's a-comin'." George. ----------------------------------------------------------------- thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
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God first Beloved Jerry God loves you my dear friend Yes Adam gave the animals these names why because the spirit help him or he saw something in the five senses a good question I believe the spirit help him by what these animals would become thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved T-Bone God loves us my dear friend I am glad you enjoy them and they get you to think yes so very true "I believe this quest for answers are kid’s critical thinking skills under development – and SHOULD CONTINUE for the rest of their lives! And from my Christian perspective I see another aspect to this as they mature – and that is still having child-like faith in a loving God." thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved bliss God loves us my dear friend Yes "I think Eve (and Adam) opened Pandora's box, so to speak, for everything to become "evil'' in a way. The mosquitoes bite and the lion who was joyfully eating the vegetation, now desires flesh............ thorns now grow, (they werern't there in the beginning.....) so there was ''potential'' for these things......just like evil. It didn't exist until mankind decided to find out ''what did God keep from us??" "Sin changed many natures, even human." great words for to think about yes too "I don't believe that animals ''sin'' either. That is not what is meant by ''sin'' entering the world. Their nature changed if they were made only herbivores from the beginning. I do not know which one." maybe their natural changed great study Yes "It is abundantly clear from the names given to the carnivores by Adam that he had seen these animals in action - eating other animals prior to the Fall of mankind. The idea that all animals ate only plants prior to the Fall is contradicted directly by the biblical texts." thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved VeganXTC God loves us my dear friend thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Abigail God loves us my dear friend That a hard one my friend because some children read faster and understand what read at differ rate but say its up to you on how long your child needs to read is it wrong to give him a break from time to time I say not if you believe he understood what was read I say etc minutes of reading and the rest of the time review what he read but this is me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Twinky and Jerry the DrtyDzn God loves you my dear friend yes I believe all animals were made to eat fruit or grain but over time they changed due to sin coming into the world thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first The Grace of God by Roy William Perry III wrote unknown - rewrote 08-05-2006 The Grace of God is a study of the use of the word grace in God's divine Bible, better known as the Word of God. We will be looking at the use the the word in both New and Old Testament books. The Old Testament word grace was translated from three difference Hebrew words, the word khane, the word channowth, the word techinnah, and the word chanan. But not all can be consider the grace of God. The New Testament word grace was translated from three Greek words the word charis, the word eurodydon, and the word chrestos. But not all can be consider the grace of God. Since it would be imposilbe to examination both New and Old Testament at the same time, we will start with the Old Testament. And since we can not look at each word at the same time, we will start with the Hebrew word khane. The Hebrew word khane was translated into six English words the word grace, the word gracious, the word favor, the word (well) -favored, the word pleasant, and the word precious. The reason these Translators used difference words was the difference of each man's background or education or the way our English is put together. This word is used sixty-nine times in sixty-seven verses. If one studies numbers this could mean {sixty-nine divided by three which gives us twenty-three which marks this number with short of conplete established governmental perfection} which is the type of grace we had here or one short of seventy which would mean { seven times ten signifies perfect spiritual order, but sixty-nine is one short of seventy with refers to the unconpletness of perfect spiritual order. In the book of Genesis it is used fourteen times which inplies a douple measure of spiritual perfection, or six plus eight which inplies man of new beginning by grace. Gen 6:8; Gen 18:3; Gen 19:19; Gen 30:27; Gen 32:5; Gen 33:8; Gen 33:10; Gen 33:15; Gen 34:11; Gen 39:4; Gen 39:21; Gen 47:25; Gen 47:29; Gen 50:4 Genesis 6:8 “ "But Noah found (grace) in the eyes of the Lord" In the book of Exodus it is used nine times in eight verses, which marks the word with judgement or to say without grace judgement is all that left. Exo 3:21; Exo 11:3; Exo 12:36; Exo 33:12; Exo 33:13; Exo 33:16; Exo 33:17; Exo 34:9 Exodus 3:21 "And I will give this people ( favour ) in the sight of the Egyptians: and it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty:" In the book of Numbers it is used three times in three verses. This marks the completeness of the word. Num 11:11; Num 11:15; Num 32:5 Num 11:11 And Moses said unto the LORD, Wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? and wherefore have I not found (favour) in thy sight, that thou layest the burden of all this people upon me? Lets look at a few verses and as for numbers you can work that later. Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no (favour) in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. Judg 6:17 And he said unto him, If now I have found (grace) in thy sight, then show me a sign that thou talkest with me. Ruth 2:2; Ruth 2:10; Ruth 2:13 Ruth 2:2 And Ruth the Moabitess said unto Naomi, Let me now go to the field, and glean ears of corn after him in whose sight I shall find (grace.) And she said unto her, Go, my daughter. 1 Sam 1:18; 1 Sam 16:22; 1 Sam 20:3; 1 Sam 20:29; 1 Sam 25:8; 1 Sam 27:5 1 Sam 1:18 And she said, Let thine handmaid find (grace) in thy sight. So the woman went her way, and did eat, and her countenance was no more sad. 2 Sam 14:22; 2 Sam 15:25; 2 Sam 16:4 2 Sam 14:22 And Joab fell to the ground on his face, and bowed himself, and thanked the king: and Joab said, To day thy servant knoweth that I have found (grace) in thy sight, my lord, O king, in that the king hath fulfilled the request of his servant. 1 Ki 11:19 And Hadad found great (favour) in the sight of Pharaoh, so that he gave him to wife the sister of his own wife, the sister of Tahpenes the queen. Est 2:15; Est 2:17; Est 5:2; Est 5:8; Est 7:3; Est 8:5 Est 2:15 Now when the turn of Esther, the daughter of Abihail the uncle of Mordecai, who had taken her for his daughter, was come to go in unto the king, she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained (favour) in the sight of all them that looked upon her. Psa 45:2; Psa 84:11 Psa 45:2 Thou art fairer than the children of men: (grace) is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever. Prov 1:9; Prov 3:4; Prov 3:22; Prov 3:34; Prov 4:9; Prov 5:19; Prov 11:16; Prov 13:15; Prov 17:8; Prov 22:1; Prov 22:11; Prov 28:23; Prov 31:30 Prov 1:9 For they shall be an ornament of (grace) unto thy head, and chains about thy neck. Eccl 9:11; Eccl 10:12 Eccl 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet (favour) to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. Jer 31:2 Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found (grace) in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest. Nahum 3:4 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the well-(favoured) harlot, the mistress of witch-crafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witch-crafts. Zec 4:7; Zec 12:10 Zec 4:7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, (Grace, grace) unto it. The Hebrew word khane is used as the grace or how a man may love God or another person or group of people. We read that God was well love by Noah in Genesis 6:8 and Noah heart was to make God love him and be happy about how he walks. Lets look at the word channowth which means gracious in the sense of prayer); supplication: --be gracious, intreated.. And its used two times in two verses. Job 19:17 My breath is strange to my wife, though I entreated for the children's sake of mine own body. Psa 77:9 Hath God forgotten to be gracious? hath he in anger shut up his tender mercies? Selah. Its easy to see this a form of grace that can be from God or from man to another of mankind but its grace with limits. Then there the form techinnah which is used 26 times in 25 verses. Josh 11:20 For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no (favour,) but that he might destroy them, as the LORD commanded Moses. 1 Ki 8:28; 1 Ki 8:30; 1 Ki 8:38; 1 Ki 8:45; 1 Ki 8:49; 1 Ki 8:52; 1 Ki 8:54; 1 Ki 9:3 1 ki 8:28 Yet have thou respect unto the prayer of thy servant, and to his (supplication,) O LORD my God, to hearken unto the cry and to the prayer, which thy servant prayeth before thee to day: 1 Chr 4:12 And Eshton begat Bethrapha, and Paseah, and (Tehinnah) the father of Irnahash. These are the men of Rechah. 2 Chr 6:19; 2 Chr 6:29; 2 Chr 6:35; 2 Chr 6:39; 2 Chr 33:13 2 Chr 6:19 Have respect therefore to the prayer of thy servant, and to his (supplication,) O LORD my God, to hearken unto the cry and the prayer which thy servant prayeth before thee: Ezra 9:8 And now for a little space (grace) hath been showed from the LORD our God, to leave us a remnant to escape, and to give us a nail in his holy place, that our God may lighten our eyes, and give us a little reviving in our bondage. Psa 6:9; Psa 55:1; Psa 119:170 Psa 6:9 The LORD hath heard my (supplication;) the LORD will receive my prayer. Jer 36:7; Jer 37:20; Jer 38:26; Jer 42:2; Jer 42:9 Jer 36:7 It may be they will present their (supplication) before the LORD, and will return every one from his evil way: for great is the anger and the fury that the LORD hath pronounced against this people. Dan 9:20 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my (supplication) before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God; This is a form of reaching out for good favor of God or not of God but all so how God reaches to change another heart. Now lets move into the New Testament the words for grace. The word charis is a manner or act of the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude ---acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace (-ious), joy liberality, pleasure, thank (-s, -worthy). It is used 156 times in 147 verses. Luke 1:30; Luke 2:40; Luke 2:52; Luke 4:22; Luke 6:32; Luke 6:33; Luke 6:34; Luke 17:9 Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found (favour) with God. John 1:14; John 1:16; John 1:17 John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of (grace) and truth. Acts 2:47; Acts 4:33; Acts 7:10; Acts 7:46; Acts 11:23; Acts 13:43; Acts 14:3; Acts 14:26; Acts 15:11; Acts 15:40; Acts 18:27; Acts 20:24; Acts 20:32; Acts 24:27; Acts 25:3; Acts 25:9 Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having (favour) with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Rom 1:5; Rom 1:7; Rom 3:24; Rom 4:4; Rom 4:16; Rom 5:2; Rom 5:15; Rom 5:17; Rom 5:20; Rom 5:21; Rom 6:1; Rom 6:14; Rom 6:15; Rom 6:17; Rom 11:5; Rom 11:6; Rom 12:3; Rom 12:6; Rom 15:15; Rom 16:20; Rom 16:24 Rom 1:5 By whom we have received (grace) and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: 1 Cor 1:3; 1 Cor 1:4; 1 Cor 3:10; 1 Cor 10:30; 1 Cor 15:10; 1 Cor 15:57; 1 Cor 16:3; 1 Cor 16:23 1 Cor 1:3 (Grace) be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1:2; 2 Cor 1:12; 2 Cor 1:15; 2 Cor 2:14; 2 Cor 4:15; 2 Cor 6:1; 2 Cor 8:1; 2 Cor 8:4; 2 Cor 8:6; 2 Cor 8:7; 2 Cor 8:9; 2 Cor 8:16; 2 Cor 8:19; 2 Cor 9:8; 2 Cor 9:14; 2 Cor 9:15; 2 Cor 12:9; 2 Cor 13:14 2 Cor 1:2 (Grace) be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gal 1:3; Gal 1:6; Gal 1:15; Gal 2:9; Gal 2:21; Gal 5:4; Gal 6:18 Gal 1:3 (Grace) be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Eph 1:2; Eph 1:6; Eph 1:7; Eph 2:5; Eph 2:7; Eph 2:8; Eph 3:2; Eph 3:7; Eph 3:8; Eph 4:7; Eph 4:29; Eph 6:24 Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his (grace,) wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Phil 1:2; Phil 1:7; Phil 4:23 Phil 4:23 The (grace) of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Col 1:2; Col 1:6; Col 3:16; Col 4:6; Col 4:18 Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with (grace) in your hearts to the Lord. 1 Th 1:1; 1 Th 5:28 Th 5:28 The (grace) of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. 2 Th 1:2; 2 Th 1:12; 2 Th 2:16; 2 Th 3:18 2 Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through (grace,) 1 Tim 1:2; 1 Tim 1:12; 1 Tim 1:14; 1 Tim 6:21 1 Tim 1:12 And I (thank) Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 2 Tim 1:2; 2 Tim 1:3; 2 Tim 1:9; 2 Tim 2:1; 2 Tim 4:22 2 Tim 2:1 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the (grace) that is in Christ Jesus. Titus 1:4; Titus 2:11; Titus 3:7; Titus 3:15 Titus 3:7 That being justified by his (grace,) we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Phile 1:3; Phile 1:7; Phile 1:25 Phil 1:7 For we have great (joy) and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother. Heb 2:9; Heb 4:16; Heb 10:29; Heb 12:15; Heb 12:28; Heb 13:9; Heb 13:25 Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of (grace?) James 4:6 But he giveth more (grace.) Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth (grace) unto the humble. 1 Pet 1:2; 1 Pet 1:10; 1 Pet 1:13; 1 Pet 2:19; 1 Pet 2:20; 1 Pet 3:7; 1 Pet 4:10; 1 Pet 5:5; 1 Pet 5:10; 1 Pet 5:12 1 Pet 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth (grace) to the humble. 2 Pet 1:2; 2 Pet 3:18 2 Pet 3:18 But grow in (grace,) and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. 2 John 1:3 (Grace) be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the (grace) of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Rev 1:4; Rev 22:21 Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: “Grace” be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; This is a grace of divine influence which without limits but the Old Testament grace had limits. There is the Greek word euprepeia which is used as grace in one place in one verses only which is a good suitableness gracefulness:--grace. James 1:11 For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the (grace) of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways. This is what happen to a man who does not welcome God’s grace. Last we look at the Greek word chrestos the form of grace as gracious a useful manner or morals:--better, easy, good (-ness), gracious, kind. Which is used 7 times in 7 verses. Mat 11:30 For my yoke is (easy,) and my burden is light. Luke 5:39; Luke 6:35 Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is (better.) Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the (goodness) of God leadeth thee to repentance? 1 Cor 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt (good) manners. Eph 4:32 And be ye (kind) one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. 1 Pet 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is (gracious.) This is a form of grace we show to each other how we deal with each other. Now you got to read and make up your own minds because this is just a sharing of grace that we have from God and from each other today and now plus how they received grace in days of old. Thank you, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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Thirty-fold, Sixty-fold and Hundredfold
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God first Beloved dancing God loves you my dear friend Its good to see you yes we can narrow it down to one person thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Thirty-fold, Sixty-fold and Hundredfold wrote unknown - rewrote 09-05-2006 Lets look at Matthew 13:8 “But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold." But was does God mean by the words “Thirty-fold, Sixty-fold and Hundredfold” and what kind of fruit does the seed of Christ bring. Lets get more detail Matthew 13:3-8 “And he (Jesus Christ) spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold." But it not clear yet Matthew 13: 9-10 “Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?” Jesus Christ began to explain the parable in Matthew 13:11-13 “ He (Jesus Christ) answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.” Jesus Christ was talking about spiritual fruit that which you can not see or understand with the flesh but its takes the spirit of holy spirit upon in days of old and days of new the days here and now. In Galatians 5:22-23 “ But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. There are more verses we can look at Matthew 13:23 “But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruith, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty." and Mark 4:20 "And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred." Now if you look at numbers you see an thirty-fold is one times thirty, sixty-fold is two times thirty, and an hundredfold is three times thirty plus ten. Because that which is last is first we deal with thirty-fold first and we note at age of age of thirty Christ and David began their ministries as others did over the years. While that makes sixty-fold the established ministry and hundredfold being the completed ministry plus perfection of divine order. Now we see that these fruits are spiritual fruits from the Christ in us as we give the spiritual fruits and the amount depends on where we are in our walk. I must note there are others numbers that can be used for thirty six times five or ten times three which is grace by man or complete divine order. Sixty is ten times six or twelve times five which are complete divine order of man or government perfection by grace. Hundred is ten times ten or five times five times four which is complete divine order established by itself or grace established by itself over the world. While the may be more this is enough to show us thirty-fold, sixty-fold and hundredfold are talking about were we are in our spiritual walk how must love comes from our spiritual hearts. Thank you, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.
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Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved VeganXTC God loves us my dear friend yes its good to joke with each other yes I was a cutie but now I am overweight but I am trying to lose it as we all do when the doctors tells us to try I lose some but I like to eat the wrong foods thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved VeganXTC God loves you you my dear friend you ask me -------------------------------------------------------- I'd like to ask a question! Is your avatar a picture of you when you were a little boy? -------------------------------------------------------- yes its me as a little boy you added -------------------------------------------------------- Are you holding a gun? ------------------------------------------------------- Yes but it would not shoot. I was playing Army you added ------------------------------------------------------- I hope your shooting tin cans off of a fence post and not shooting animals! ------------------------------------------------------- Later I had a BB gun and I shot tin cans but never animals you added ------------------------------------------------------- Either way, I think you're great! ------------------------------------------------------- that bleses me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Money, money and more money wrote 09-01-03-2006 Grace and peace be unto you my dear friends from God and his son the Christ has I year2027 write unto about the subject money. We all read the verse 1 Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” And we heard how so many use this verse Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.” Or this verse Acts 20:35 “... It is more blessed to give than to receive.” and there is another verse many used I can not find that is like if you give for example $10.00 to God by giving to their church will bless you back with a $100.00 dollars or so many of our worldly leaders have said. But the truth is if you give God will give back to you but God never said money for money like so many make you think my dear friend. God’s riches are above and God’s riches are below here on earth. God’s riches are life here after something you can not spend or see. God’s riches are love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance the fruits of the spirit the very things you need to have life after death. God has had me think about the value of money for a few months. I have recalled stories of my life and as I write God brings some to the top and tells me to tell them without names just the basic for a example for you. While I was in Columbus Ohio a friend at church “the Way Ministry church” car had die and this friend had children but not the money to buy a car at this time but he worked hard. So because I had a extra car that I payed $200.00 from a never friend that needed to sale a car because two cars were too many for his budget. I had received the car I used the car for about a year making the car very useful but not needed because I had two other cars at the time so I had a friend follower me over the friend with children house that car had just die house. I gave my friend with children the keys and sign the title so he could changed it over without me or with me. He said he had no money I said just pay me when you could but he wanted to know how must I told him $100.00 would be fine and fare. To my friend the car was a life saver because it ran good because it had been well took of but it had over 270,000 miles on it but it ran better than most new cars. To cut a story short about one year later my friend with children came to my door with $100.00 to pay me. I had been sick and miss a week of work so I had no money coming in to buy food or gas to go back to work that Monday. So that gift I gave over a year ago took care of me when I needed it most that $100.00 to me was like a $1,000.00 at the time because my need was great. Now this is how given and receiving works my friends and its has not nothing to do with money but needs while the $100.00 seem like $1,000.00 at the time it was still only a $100.00. While the value is not the point and the need filled and the friendship I had with my friend is the very riches I received when I gave that car. But let me share a few more that might blessed your life. One day going to church there was a old man leaving gas station with a can of gas so I stop to see if he needed a ride but I had just put my last $5.00 in my car to get to work and payday was Monday. I gave the man a ride and took him straight to his house a little out of my way to church and he ask what he owe me I said nothing but he push some one’s on me. I went on to church and after church I look to see what I had. What look like $3.00 or $4.00 was about $27.00 enough to take care off food and gas until I cash my check and go out to eat with church friends. I know God had been working because the blessing was in due time. Now one day coming back for a church event at a church 100 miles from home I stop at a rest stop but I had the need to fellowship . Me and the friends got out of our car and I said to a man I did not know “God bless your heart.” The man stop and said he needed to hear that and he had a heart attacked about a week ago and had to get back to work and his job was driving cars from one place to another and riding back on the bus. He needed pray so we pray for him and I need to fellowship so the pray and talking about the man we met gave me the fellowship I needed. While today we see money as a need its never about money its about filling needs. Like Paul said “silver and gold have I none” why because its not about silver and gold but about needs being filled. While we are to help the poor that does no take money its takes filling needs. Its hurts my heart that some so called church leaders ask for money to help this group of poor or that group and when they receive the money only a small percent of the money given makes it to help the very poor they say they want to help. Here were you live there are poor with need of knowing the truth even if they have a nicer house than you they are poor in spirit because they know not the love you do. You we poor come in all forms there is the poor of worldly things and there is the poor of spiritual things. Its better to be poor of worldly things than spiritual things but even some are poor both ways. While there are many ways to help and if you help and a leader steals a percent just trust God that enough will get there to help fill the needs but as for the leader that steals he will receive his or her reward in the end . For we get rewarded good for good and bad for bad unless God’s grants of forgiveness of the bad by us asking with action to changed the bad ways. Saying we will changed means nothing but the action of at least trying to changed means a lot. I wrote this over time because in my dreams and visions I been seeing how some people are chasing money when its all about spiritual blessing from living the fruits of the spirit. Living the best we can as Jesus live on this earth. The walk of love of self as a child of God who loves all people no matter what some may say or think but because love helps while hate only hurts. I dearly thank you for reading this my friends, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy. PS I add here a tread I wrote unknown date for X-Way Ministry friends but I update this to help I can only hope it helps. (title) I want to get rich (This is what a cult leader taught me and I believe his reason to teaching and miss leading many people was just to get rich) Do you recall when Dr Victor Paul Wierwille taught us about Simon the sorcery. When he saw that my laying on the apostles hands the people who believe receive the gift of holy spirit. He said give this power he offered them money. (The scripture that was used.) Acts 8:18 -24 KJV “And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. 20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. 21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. 23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity. 24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.” ( The Way leader taught that we are not to sale the gift of holy spirit but this leader taught a class on how to receive the holy spirit to get rich. I wanted to note this because some church leaders teach it wrong to ask for money but their whole show seems to be about getting money. But we can thank God that they are not all that way but we can learn from them but we must be careful with our money if we are to use it as a wise child of God.) More or less Simon the sorcery wanted to buy the power to give others the gift of holy spirit. Why I ask you? Is it so he could resell it to become rich? The Way leader said one can not sell or buy that gift Acts 8:18-24. Now the Way leader used a class to lead others into the gift of holy spirit. The use of a class is not wrong. But is it wrong to charge money for receiving the gift of holy spirit? Is any the same as Simon the sorcery wanted to do. (Yes it is wrong to charge money for receiving the gift of holy spirit.) But Simon the sorcery change his mind and ask Paul to pray for him. But the Way leader just change the price of the class from etc to etc. Now it is not wrong to charge for books? (I am not sure.) But I believe it is wrong to charge for leading people into the gift of the holy spirit. Now did the Way leader do it to get rich or did he have a lack of knowledge about what to do? (This man die a rich man. ) I have all ways believe he was a good man in heart. But I have never understanding why he and others have charge for leading others into the gift of holy spirit. Now I do believe it takes money to put a class together and nothing in this world is free. But where should that money come from? The sale of books, food and things could help. I believe the money of a Church or a fellowship should come from the stewardship of its believers. To put it simple where a Church goes is up to the believers who stewardship there by giving money there. If a Church sales every thing I ask you what happen to giving and receiving. To receive one most give some thing first. I believe if the Way leader would of gave the gift of holy spirit free or the class he used to lead others into it. The ones who got it free would buy his books and give to his Church even since that all would not stay he would make ten times the money. Now I do not know what more to say about this subject. But I ask you for your input . Please show me where I am wrong if wrong and if right where I am right. Thank you Roy Ps I am glad that I receive the class and believe its was $200.00 well spend but that does not make it right. (Now I wrote to help some face the truth about money within the Way cult I was in and many are still in. But all I can do is try to help. Thank you, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.
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Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
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God first Beloved coolchef God loves you my dear friend yes I am glad we have birds and bats but what does eay mean thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
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God first Beloved Abigail God loves us my dear friend I bet roaches were not on board either thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved washingtonweather God loves you my dear friend I glad you enjoyed it thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved templelady God loves us all my dear friend that is ok thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved all God loves us all my dear friend here a note on a Ex-Mormons site that you may enjoy http://exmormon.meetup.com/boards/view/vie...?thread=1196190 under Open Letter to all ex-Mormons part 1 by Jah or jahurule I hope you enjoy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Ex-Mormons From what I've seen, an overwhelming majority of the ex-Mormons eventually become some type of agnostic or atheist. It is very distressing yet very understandable to me. I was a Mormon for 4 short years, yet when I found out the truth, my life shattered on many levels. I can only begin to imagine the devastation a life-long Mormon goes through. Being a Mormon, we were taught that it's the "one and true" church. Naturally, I concluded: if the "one and true church" turned out to be a big hoax, how can I trust anything else? I didn't revert fully to an atheist like when I was growing up, my intuition told me there was a deity; and so I searched--studying the occult, the supernatural, New Age, self-help, nlp, and so on. During this time, my parents became Christians. I visited their church, kept on going for different reasons. As I continued to go to that church, some of the things that hit me were: 1. They were sincerely humble; I couldn't feel a hint of pride or pretension no matter how hard I looked. Some are just down-right innocent. 2. Their prayers were not in a form--they were alive and spontaneous; they were encountering a living God. 3. This God was different--more personal, warmer, and gentler. He wasn't just demanding perfection from His lofty throne. 4. The Bible actually contained fulfilled prophesies! 5. The Bible is substantiated by archeology. (Not just blind-faith?) 6. The NIV Study Bible blew my mind. I'm now actually studying and understanding my scriptures rather just glossing over them. 7. The sermons were life-applicable; they often openly talked about character flaws of men such as King David and Samson. (In LDS church it was hush hush, everyone were to be perfect.) 8. It was ok to ask questions and they provided direct answers from the Bible. When the pastor first asked me to accept Christ after 3 years of going to the church, naturally I was reluctant. ?If I came out of the true church, what?s the chance that this is true?" I wasn't about to be fooled again, so I waited. A year later, after a semi-crisis, I thought I was ready to change my life and sought to become a Christian. When the pastor asked some key questions regarding my belief system, and if I'd like to put my faith in Christ, again I hesitated: How did I know the Bible wasn't just made up? How do I know that the prophesies weren't merely fulfilled on paper? How do I know if there isn't an ultimate reality that transcends even Christianity? Long story short, the 3 hour discussion with my pastor eventually led to the fact that Satan was fishing for unwary victims with his most effective bait: inventing thousands of half-truth, false-beliefs and counterfeits that distracted people from the Truth. If Satan just took the truth and tweaked it a little bit, it became heresy. It slowly dawned on me that the common thread in all religions in the world is that it requires the performance of man to pursue God or Godhood, only salvation in Christ was unmerited, unearnable, and truly free! Best things are for free! versus there's no free lunch! Maybe with an infinite God there's free lunch after-all. If there were only 2 beliefs in the world, then common sense tells us the ratio would be 50-50. Roughly half would be in the Truth, half would be deceived. But if there were 1000?s of false belief and idols such as materialism and self-worship all cluttered around the Truth, then only a few diligent seekers would find it. Broad is the way to destruction right. With that understanding, but still knowing fully I could be hurt again, I accepted Christ with the mindset: 1. Give it a go and see what happens 2. It was an insurance policy against Hell if there was one. I had nothing to lose. I'm very happy with the decision. After I took that leap of faith, God was faithful to reciprocate the gesture. My whole world changed for the better. I'm now experiencing much peace in my life, free from?as far as I know--all compulsive behaviors and addictions of the past. These are merely two out of a host of other tangible changes that substantiate my faith in Christ. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not so arrogant as to say that I?m 100% sure that Christianity is the way. I know for sure my laptop exists because my fingers are tapping on the keys, but spirituality and faith transcends the five senses--hence faith. But based on what I've gathered, the homework I've done, and through my own experiences (whether self-delusions or indeed God's work) the most plausible universe-view is Biblical Christianity. For me, it takes as much, if not more faith to believe in the atheistic worldview. Either way, it's putting your faith in something. The world-view I have right now doesn't rule out the occult, UFO's, and things like that. In fact, everything fits like a glove. As far as the occult and supernatural goes, there are witches meetings on meetup.com, and reports of demon possession in countries like Thailand are common and etc--What I'm saying is: don't rule out the existence of something just because you haven't experienced them directly. The supernatural does exist, it is hidden and powerful but God is infinitely more powerful. Yes, I know there are apparent contradictions and errors in the Bible, but it's been my honest experience that as I dig deeper, I begin to find harmony. It's at this time that I can see the ingenuity and divinity of God. To the unspiritual mind, it may seem like a conflict, but to the God-minded, it makes sense despite of apparent conflict. Truth is often paradoxical. You are thinking I'm biased and I?m just finding things that I?m looking for. First yes, I am biased, I?m sure everyone is biased in one way or the other. However, because of my Mormon experience, I take extreme caution to be as objective as I know how to avoid any self-delusion. I?m not trying to prove my views or debate with anyone. But like anything beneficial that I encounter, I'll in-turn recommend it to others and I will witness for Christ. If the Christian worldview is true, and from what I?ve experienced, and what I?ve gathered?from countless hours of reading, comparing and questioning and reasoning--it?s the most plausible of them all. God really love you despite of your Mormon experience and also Hell does actually exist. How terrible would it be for anyone to forfeit the love of God and the same time gain hellfire only because they only glanced at the evidences but didn't dig deeper. The sweet gospel is this: God is holy and can?t co-exist with sin. This just God allowed his son Jesus Christ to die to cover our sins. You don't have to perform religious rites or complete a checklist of requirements, you don't have to belong to an exclusive organization headed by fallible man, you don't have to be perfect because He was perfect for you. You only have to accept Him as Savior in your heart to receive this free gift of love for you. Nobody can sanely claim they know everything in the Universe; don't rule out Christianity just because of your Mormon background. Humbled yourself, face the bitterness if you still carry it, and realize perhaps God did revealed Himself through the Bible and has a plan for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- first reply by writter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another thing is that it seems to me that people can substantiate almost anything through convoluted logic. However what I found to be generally true about Truth is: 1. The simplest and most straightforward explanation. 2. Substantiated by ample amount of high quality evidences. 3. Not afraid of the scrutiny of questions. Ask tons questions! What did Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Love God with all your heart, soul and mind. Use your head and rational skills and determine which universe view is the most simple, logical and plausible. The Bottom-line is: If there's a God and the Bible is the Word of God, then, Hell is a reality. And sinners like you and me are bound for it without a savior. 2 + 2, irregardless how hard I believe and whim that it?s 3, is in fact 4. In the same way, is something true if you believed? Or is it more like, because something is true, therefore you believe? Anyway, something to think about, May God bless you, open your hearts and help you find Him. Here some Christian sites that you can look into the historical and archeological accuracy of Bible and Jesus Christ: http://www.carm.org/s... http://www.irr.org/sc... http://www.jesusfacto... http://www.contenderm... http://www.christiana... http://www.christiana... http://www.cuttingedg... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- next reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I am so impressed with what you have written I just want to thank you for sharing the truth about Jesus with ex-Mormons. My story of leaving Mormonism is on the IRR web site you posted a link to. It is also on my web site; www.equippingchristians.com It has been so frustrating trying to get LDS family and friends (well, actually ex-friends. They all avoided me after I left) to see the truth, but they are "blinded by the craftiness of men" (to quote an oft-repeated Mormon phrase). So I decided to start a ministry to educate Christians on Mormonism. It's easier to keep people out of the cult than it is to rescue them once they are in! Anyhow, thank you for sharing Jesus and the inerrancy of the Bible with readers. Tracy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there is more but you will have to go there for it this is a small site not a lot of action thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Abigail God loves you and your boys my dear friend Good question "why God invented mosquitos" God made the insects family of Culicidae which I do not understand a lot about But first insect of these family of Culicidae were good insects but over time by sin some of these insects begin to changed into pest that do no good but others do good now we have the mosquito breed of insects within the family of Culicidae which is a evil or bad breed but I would ask why did the devil work with this insect to change it into what we call the mosquito? I believe even animals can sin but all the how's could get long but the bigest one would be not being subject to mankind and being subject to self This is the answer I feel God told me but he might give you a better one I am sure Noah would not of took a mosquito breed on his boat ride thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Abigail God loves you my dear friend yes God likes to teach us too as you love to teach your loving children thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved pawtucket God loves you my dear friend Yes we have Doctrinal teachings Yes we have Doctrinal prophecy Yes we have Doctrinal questions Yes we have Doctrinal books reading Yes we have Doctrinal spiritualish thinking Yes we have Doctrinal studies Yes we have Doctrinal PFAL studies Yes we have Doctrinal Way teachings and maybe more thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved ChasUFarley God loves you and your five year old All I can say is ask God the same question but add how to put the answer in words your five year will understand but personally I would say God is his-her own mommy and daddy but God would be more help than me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Lets ask questions like a two year old child would! Here I am year2027 as my spiritual name and Roy William Perry III as by fleshly name write unto you about a subject that is dear to my heart “Lets ask questions like a two year old child would!” Yes, yes lets ask questions out loud and not worried what others might say or think about us. Questions are a way to receive answers about things that we many wonder about. Some may ask does God really love them personally? And God will say “Yes I love you my dear child, did I not created the earth with all that you needed to live a happy life no matter what you may desire in life its in your power to reach for.” I will note just because riches are in our power to received by works its does not mean we will receive them because what we may reach for others may reach to take it from us by evil ways or good ways if we reach with evil actions to receive. I will note just because riches are in our power to received by works its does not mean we will receive them because what we may reach for others may reach to take it from us by evil ways or good ways if we reach with evil actions to receive. God may give you riches on this earth if your desire is to feed the poor because the good to may do will give you joy forever and friends that will never leave you. But if your desires are to received riches for personal fleshly wants and do not want to share these riches will be lost when your fleshly body dies. While riches you can not count or see like the love of a good friend last from your fleshly body unto your spiritual body but riches like money may lose their value. While love allways has a value whether in the grave or out of the grave. But lets get back to questions and here a few I have ask the spirit of Christ in me. “Why is the the sky clear at times, partly clouded with blue clouds, and then dark with black clouds at times?” Here the answer I received from the spirit in a way I would understand “The sky is clear to teach you of pure things, the blue clouds teach you that not everything fleshly strays pure, and the black clouds teach that bad things are coming to deal with.” Now the spirit added “These are to teach us the weather so we can be ready for what may happen all so but the weather is used to teach us spiritual things the signs of a pure spiritual walk, the signs of less than pure spiritual walk, and the signs of fleshly walk so we can get back to walking in love.” Then I may ask the spirit “why is the color blue, blue and why not blue being red and so on.” The spirit of Christ said “ its is because of the elements that things are made of for which color they seem to be and the elements things they have to fight off to live.” Yes everything has a reason even if my little mind can only handle a less detail answer because of the things of knowledge I have been taught by my desires to learn. Some of you may receive greater detail because your understanding of this or that. But let me say no question is foolish and let me say God all ways hears us but we need to learn to be better listeners because if God be a God of love he all ways answers us. The answer is there even if its no or we do not need this or that but there is all ways a answer. So never stop looking up and talking at God and if your talk at God and do not hear keep praying to learn out to hear while you believe he is answers and you will learn to hear in due time. All good things that time to receive as it takes time to build a house to get out of the cold its takes time to build a relationship with God as out personal heavenly father and Jesus Christ as our brother. So keep asking questions my friends, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.
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God first Beloved Wayfer Not God loves you my dear friend yes lets pray for fleshly Justice done to this evil man the fleshly cult leader Jeffs' a flase prophet a real prophet of the lust of the flesh and many more works of the flesh Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. The works of Jeffs' the flase prophet are against our spiritual fruits 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. if we are led by the spirit of Christ we are not under works of fleshly laws because we live by love not lust 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. how many of these does Jeffs' the flase prophet do 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. these are what the good live by i just wanted to add these verses thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Chas U Farley, Lifted Up, and Brother Speed God loves us all my dear friends yes Warren Jeffs is capture and we can watch what happens to him on “Wayfer Not” new Tread about the evil cult leader Warren Jeffs thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Oakspear God loves you my dear friend I believe you the stories were happen it was God teaching his children Literally but you we read these stories it becomes Figurative teaching to us in ways while it taught them in fleshly things that happen to the children living at the time it was live stories lessons but when these same things are taught to us its a spiritual vission in our head but who am I thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Ca_dreaming God loves you my dear friend your very welcome thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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The War of flesh against spirit
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God first Beloved Ca_dreaming God loves you my dear friend thanks for the blessing thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first The War of flesh against spirit wrote 8-24-2006 Here I am written to you my dear friends that love me as a brother and my friends that judge me daily by what their personal church teaches them to be just and right but I must write you all and call you are friends because to me your love ones no matter what you may think or say. May the grace of God the father, Jesus Christ the son, and Holy Spirit the motherly power be unto you my son in the form of spiritual life like the fleshly life you received from your fleshly mother but must purer and perfect. May this very grace come with peace or to put things to a better point a end to pain as you know it the very place of comfort without any sadness because the great enemy death will be gone in you because you are changing from flesh to spirit and may this changed be complete in due time. Look Apostle Paul said in Ephesians 6:10 - 12 “ Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Yes lets be strong in the power of the gift of holy spirit making the holy spirit Lord of our flesh by giving by the guidelines of what our inter spirit the seed of Christ tells us what is just and right which is the very will of God our spiritual Father. So we can stand against the foolish desires of the flesh which are Galatians 5: 19 - 21. “ Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Yes we fight not against each other but its our personal war within our self the desires to walk by the flesh against our desires to do the will of the Father. The very rulers of darkness are our fleshly desires locked in our old man before we begin to changed into a Christ like form. Romans 6:6 “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.” Yes daily we changed our walk from a walk of fleshly desires to a walk of spiritual desires a walk in love . For Galatians 5:22-23 reads “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” tells us the desires of the spirit. Both are inward desires but one is of the flesh focus on self while the other is a inward desire that focuses on others. While they both are seem in outwardly actions one is devilish desires and the other is Godly desires. But when did this very war begin and when will it end. The war of flesh against spirit begin when the desires of Eve being miss lead bye the desires of another fleshly being to try to take from her the rulership of flesh. Its was the very spirits of Adam and Eve the very image of Adam and Eve which is and was the image of God that took rulership from the great whales who were above all other animals but these great whales were not whales of the ocean but whales that fly in the open firmament of the water above the earth. This great whales could be called angels which some became devil spirits and others remain called angels. But the main battle was to do the desires of the flesh or the spirit whether the fleshly desires came by a outside fleshly thing like another animal or like to today adds on TV, radio, and many places and these adds to do desires of the flesh are hidden in things we may see as good. But if our spiritual desires are leading us in love we will see the fleshly desires for what they are a attacked to pull us into desires of the flesh or wants of the flesh. This battle of flesh against spirit will be fought until flesh destroys of fleshly things and only spiritual things remain. But do not be fearful because to begin to changed all you have to do is begin to believe in God and that God send Jesus the Christ as a gift of holy spirit and let this gift direct your paths. So our inner self could be born from a fleshly being into a spiritual being from a body of flesh to a body of light one that lives forever. Because there is fleshly light and there is spiritual light, one gives life to fleshly kinds and the other gives life to spiritual kinds as you can become by your desires in your heart. If you desire to do what is right and just life after life will enter you but if you desire to do what only makes us happy then fleshly death will be your end. So I call you into the great walk of love that which is right and just and I look for you to met me in the spiritual air of love and truth. Thank you, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.