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God first Beloved starbird God loves you my dear friend yes God's word is not complicated we can just ask him but it we want to understand a book wrote in another laguage we do one of two things 1. ask the writer 2. do word studies its that simple but lets have peace you asked about Satan I just gave you my two pennies no one has to believe me and that ok thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved starbird God loves you my dear friend I guess you are talking to be While I do not want to fight about it but I just wanted to point out a few things 1. Its not were in a set of books called the bible but were in the word of God 2. were do you say he came from 3. were does the bible say the devil was not created as flesh or any other part of the bible 4. were does it say satan was even a person whether spirit or flesh yes "flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven" but which heaven while we go into outer space which is in the heaven just not the part spirit is in while the bible is the word of God its not all the word of God because there is more I told you were the devil was created Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. the word great is in Strong's Dictory H1419. gadowl, gaw-dole'; or (short.) gadol, gaw-dole'; from H1431; great (in any sense); hence older; also insolent:-- + aloud, elder (-est), + exceeding (-ly), + far, (man of) great (man, matter, thing, -er, -ness), high, long, loud, mighty, more, much, noble, proud thing, X sore, (X) very. so this great whales were mighty than other animals, more noble than other animals and higher than other animals now the word whales in Strong's Dictory H8577. tanniyn, tan-neen'; or tanniym (Ezek. 29 : 3), tan-neem'; intens. from the same as H8565; a marine or land monster, i.e. sea-serpent or jackal:--dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale. so these animals are land monsters, sea-serpents, dragons and other things Exo 7:9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Show a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent. this word serpert is the same animal in Gen 1:21 Deu 22:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps. dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 Psa 44:19 Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death. dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 Psa 74:13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters. dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 Psa 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps: dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 Isa 43:20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen. dragons is the same hebrew word or the same animal in Gen 1:21 and it goes on and on if you want to search under the Hebrew word Strong's Dictory H8577. tanniyn, tan-neen Lucifer is here Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved ChasUFarley God loves you my dear friend I believe I call them and tell them you want a replacement computer if they can not do better job fixing it then this because it should never came back in safe mode and with a lose screw and I call the head store or email them wish I could be more help but this is just me and I understand what you are saying years ago I had a Packward Bell that I went round and round with they replace every part three times but it never worked right but last I got my money back and got a differ brand today I have a Dell because they fix it on site while I like others like gateway I do not like shiping it in to fix while its new I am sorry this is happening thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved sonofarthur God loves you my dear friend While I am well versed in TWI's teaching on this subject I have work to put off TWI's wayish thinking and put on true thinking I have read some of the Nicene Creed and like some of it along with Gnostic teaching and many other yes lets have a honest discussion of the trinity but which trinity did you know there is a trinity of the flesh 1. body 2. soul 3. spirit did you know there is a trinity of of image 1. flesh image 2. spirit image 3. darkness image or face of the deep did you know there is a trinity of holy spirit 1. God the Giver 2. Christ the son 3. holy spirit the gift did you know there is a trinity of life 1. growth life 2. soul life 3. spirit life did you know there is a trinity of birth 1. ferized the seed or egg by a form of s*x 2. grown inside the seed or egg --womb is the outer shell 3. birth and we could go on and on so there is a trinity but was it miss understood and taught wrong each person must go to God them self as to what one personally believes thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved starbird and others God loves you my dear friend welcome I hope I do not share to many things I just feel the need to write to this tread you wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ believing that satan exists does not mean accepting the idea that he has horns, a pointed tail, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what if I said satan had horns and did not have horns or I said satan had a tail and did not have a tail yes it reads in {Eccl.9:5} KJV 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. but I may forget things that VPW taught "the dead are conscious of nothing at all" so in the grave they have or had no understanding while dead but when does this change for them the first coming of Jesus Christ is the day they were looking for while we look for the second coming the memory of them is forgotten to their bodies but not to God who will have the son re-created them as some saw the dead rise Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. you asked --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so where did he come from? all gods works are perfect; he is not the author of un-righteousness; so he did not create anyone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess you asked were Satan came from Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. this great whales here is talking about a soul life animal great compare to other soul animals -- angels Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. some animals fly in the open firmament of heaven -- yes the open firmament of heaven and not above the earth while birds fly above the ground they do not fly in the open firmament of heaven so it may be talking about angels Yes God created everything just right but he gave all things free will the one who became satan was a animal of flesh yes there was a time before the devil sined as there was a time before Adam sined yes Rev 12:7 "and a war broke out in heaven: michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but did not prevail, niether was a place found for them any longer in heaven. - this = Gen 3 so you see there a lot to think about when asking about Satan Is he spirit or flesh -- I say he is flesh image if there no memory in the grave were is it stored -- in the holy spirit that over shower the old testament people were they raised at the first coming of Christ -- I say yes if we be alive in Christ and Christ has come down to us as the gift of holy spirit is this not a second coming of Christ so I say Satan is a angel to us the one who tempted mankind to live by flesh beginning the battle between flesh and spirit when is the last trump - I say our last breath is our last fleshly sound which can be called a trump that day we changed or we are born from flesh to spirit kind or Godkind today we walk around with the seed of Christ in our heart until we break out of the flesh to die with Christ is to die fleshly to be born spiritually I have a question do you walk by the word of God or by the limited book called the bible guess what the bible is only part of the word of God In the Way I was taught that words of propecy has to line up with the bible but today I believe if live prophecy does not seem to line up with the bible either I have a poor translation or words are missleading me or I need to find a clearer verse because by the spirit one can not lie but a translation can be poorely transated or that could be more that I can understand at any given time so I do alot of praying on things thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Jerry God loves us all my dear friend yes it has a differ style that makes it sound like its defining Christ but I do not think so there others here http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html One reads for God to be a jealous there has to be a another God for him to be jealous of or something like that now the site was up last night but its down right now thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved all God loves us all my dear friends here a book that has a odd beginning I put verses to it to make it easier to read have you ever read a book that begin like this one thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God first The Gnostic Society Library The Nag Hammadi Library Asclepius 21-29 Translated by James Brashler, Peter A. Dirkse, and Douglas M. Parrott Chapter 1 1. "And if you (Asclepius) wish to see the reality of this mystery, then you should see the wonderful representation of the intercourse that takes place between the male and the female. For when the semen reaches the climax, it leaps forth. In that moment, the female receives the strength of the male; the male, for his part, receives the strength of the female, while the semen does this. 2. "Therefore, the mystery of intercourse is performed in secret, in order that the two sexes might not disgrace themselves in front of many who do not experience that reality. For each of them (the sexes) contributes its (own part in) begetting. For if it happens in the presence of those who do not understand the reality, (it is) laughable and unbelievable. And, moreover, they are holy mysteries, of both words and deeds, because not only are they not heard, but also they are not seen. 3. "Therefore, such people (the unbelievers) are blasphemers. They are atheistic and impious. But the others are not many; rather, the pious who are counted are few. Therefore, wickedness remains among (the) many, since learning concerning the things which are ordained does not exist among them. For the knowledge of the things which are ordained is truly the healing of the passions of the matter. Therefore, learning is something derived from knowledge. 4. "But if there is ignorance, and learning does not exist in the soul of man, (then) the incurable passions persist in it (the soul). And additional evil comes with them (the passions), in the form of an incurable sore. And the sore constantly gnaws at the soul, and through it the soul produces worms from the evil, and stinks. But God is not the cause of these things, since he sent to men knowledge and learning. 5. "Trismegistus, did he send them to men alone?" 6. "Yes, Asclepius, he sent them to them alone. And it is fitting that we tell you why to men alone he granted knowledge and learning, the allotment of his good. 7. "And now listen! God and the Father, even the Lord, created man subsequent to the gods, and he took him from the region of matter. Since matter is involved in the creation of man, of [...], the passions are in it. Therefore, they continually flow over his body, for this living creature would not have existed in any other way except that he had taken this food, since he is mortal. It is also inevitable that inopportune desires, which are harmful, dwell in him. For the gods, since they came into being out of a pure matter, do not need learning and knowledge. For the immortality of the gods is learning and knowledge, since they came into being out of pure matter. It (immortality) assumed for them the position of knowledge and learning. By necessity, he (God) set a boundary for man; he placed him in learning and knowledge. 8. "Concerning these things (learning and knowledge) which we have mentioned from the beginning, he (God) perfected them in order that by means of these things he might restrain passions and evils, according to his will. He brought his (man's) mortal existence into immortality; he (man) became good (and) immortal, just as I have said. For he (God) created (a) two-fold nature for him: the immortal and the mortal. 9. "And it happened this way because of the will of God that men be better than the gods, since, indeed, the gods are immortal, but men alone are both immortal and mortal. Therefore, man has become akin to the gods, and they know the affairs of each other with certainty. The gods know the things of men, and men know the things of the gods. And I am speaking about men, Asclepius, who have attained learning and knowledge. But (about) those who are more vain than these, it is not fitting that we say anything base, since we are divine and are introducing holy matters. 10. "Since we have entered the matter of the communion between the gods and men, know, Asclepius, that in which man can be strong! For just as the Father, the Lord of the universe, creates gods, in this very way man too, this mortal, earthly, living creature, the one who is not like God, also himself creates gods. Not only does he strengthen, but he is also strengthened. Not only is he god, but he also creates gods. Are you astonished, Asclepius? Are you yourself another disbeliever like the many?" 11. "Trismegistus, I agree with the words (spoken) to me. And I believe you as you speak. But I have also been astonished at the discourse about this. And I have decided that man is blessed, since he has enjoyed this great power." 12. "And that which is greater than all these things, Asclepius, is worthy of admiration. Now it is clear to us concerning the race of the gods, and we confess it along with everyone else, that it (the race of the gods) has come into being out of a pure matter. And their bodies are heads only. But that which men create is the likeness of the gods. They (the gods) are from the farthest part of the matter, and it (the object created by men) is from the outer (part) of the being of men. Not only are they (what men created) heads, but (they are) also all the other members of the body, and according to their likeness. Just as God has willed that the inner man be created according to his image, in the very same way, man on earth creates gods according to his likeness." 13. "Trismegistus, you are not talking about idols, are you?" 14. "Asclepius, you yourself are talking about idols. You see that again, you yourself, Asclepius, are also a disbeliever of the discourse. You say about those who have soul and breadth, that they are idols - these who bring about these great events. You are saying about these who give prophecies that they are idols - these who give men sickness and healing that [...] them. 15. "Or are you ignorant, Asclepius, that Egypt is (the) image of heaven? Moreover, it is the dwelling place of heaven and all the forces that are in heaven. If it is proper for us to speak the truth, our land is (the) temple of the world. And it is proper for you not to be ignorant that a time will come in it (our land, when) Egyptians will seem to have served the divinity in vain, and all their activity in their religion will be despised. For all divinity will leave Egypt, and will flee upward to heaven. And Egypt will be widowed; it will be abandoned by the gods. For foreigners will come into Egypt, and they will rule it. Egypt! Moreover, Egyptians will be prohibited from worshipping God. Furthermore, they will come into the ultimate punishment, especially whoever among them is found worshipping (and) honoring God. 16. "And in that day, the country that was more pious than all countries will become impious. No longer will it be full of temples, but it will be full of tombs. Neither will it be full of gods, but (it will be full of) corpses. Egypt! Egypt will become like the fables. And your religious objects will be [...] the marvelous things, and [...], and if your words are stones and are wonderful. And the barbarian will be better than you, Egyptian, in his religion, whether (he is) a Scythian, or the Hindus, or some other of this sort. 17. "And what is this that I say about the Egyptian? For they (the Egyptians) will not abandon Egypt. For (in) the time (when) the gods have abandoned the land of Egypt, and have fled upward to heaven, then all Egyptians will die. And Egypt will be made a desert by the gods and the Egyptians. And as for you, River, there will be a day when you will flow with blood more than water. And dead bodies will be (stacked) higher than the dams. And he who is dead will not be mourned as much as he who is alive. Indeed, the latter will be known as an Egyptian on account of his language in the second period (of time). - Asclepius, why are you weeping? - He will seem like (a) foreigner in regard to his customs. Divine Egypt will suffer evils greater than these. Egypt - lover of God, and the dwelling place of the gods, school of religion - will become an example of impiousness. 18. "And in that day, the world will not be marveled at, [...] and immortality, nor will it be worshiped [...], since we say that it is not good [...]. It has become neither a single thing nor a vision. But it is in danger of becoming a burden to all men. Therefore, it will be despised - the beautiful world of God, the incomparable work, the energy that possesses goodness, the man-formed vision. Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be preferred to life. No one will gaze into heaven. And the pious man will be counted as insane, and the impious man will be honored as wise. The man who is afraid will be considered as strong. And the good man will be punished like a criminal. 19. "And concerning the soul, and the things of the soul, and the things of immortality, along with the rest of what I have said to you, Tat, Asclepius, and Ammon - not only will they be considered ridiculous, but they will also be thought of as vanity. But believe me (when I say) that people of this kind will be endangered by the ultimate danger to their soul. And a new law will be established ... (2 lines missing) ... they will ... (line missing) ... good. The wicked angels will remain among men, (and) be with them, (and) lead them into wicked things recklessly, as well as into atheism, wars, and plunderings, by teaching them things contrary to nature. 20. "In those days, the earth will not be stable, and men will not sail the sea, nor will they know the stars in heaven. Every sacred voice of the word of God will be silenced, and the air will be diseased. Such is the senility of the world: atheism, dishonor, and the disregard of noble words. 21. "And when these things had happened, Asclepius, then the Lord, the Father and god from the only first god, the creator, when he looked upon the things that happened, established his design, which is good, against the disorder. He took away error, and cut off evil. Sometimes, he submerged it in a great flood; at other times, he burned it in a searing fire; and at still other times, he crushed it in wars and plagues, until he brought ... (4 lines missing) ... of the work. And this is the birth of the world. 22. "The restoration of the nature of the pious ones who are good will take place in a period of time that never had a beginning. For the will of God has no beginning, even as his nature, which is his will (has no beginning). For the nature of God is will. And his will is the good." 23. "Trismegistus, is purpose, then, (the same as) will?" 24. "Yes, Asclepius, since will is (included) in counsel. For <he> (God) does not will what he has from deficiency. Since he is complete in every part, he wills what he (already) fully has. And he has every good. And what he wills, he wills. And he has the good that he wills. Therefore, he has everything. And God wills what he wills. And the good world is an image of the Good One." 25. "Trismegistus, is the world good?" 26. "Asclepius, it is good, as I shall teach you. For just as ... (2 lines missing) ... of soul and life [...] of the world [...] come forth in matter, those that are good, the change of the climate, and beauty, and the ripening of the fruits, and the things similar to all these. Because of this, God has control over the heights of heaven. He is in every place, and he looks out over every place. And (in) his place there is neither heaven nor star. And he is free from (the) body. 27. "Now the creator has control in the place that is between the earth and heaven. He is called 'Zeus', that is, 'Life'. Plutonius Zeus is lord over the earth and sea. And he does not possess the nourishment for all mortal living creatures, for (it is) Kore who bears the fruit. These forces always are powerful in the circle of the earth, but those of others are always from Him-who-is. 28. "And the lords of the earth will withdraw themselves. And they will establish themselves in a city that is in a corner of Egypt and that will be built toward the setting of the sun. Every man will go into it, whether they come on the sea or on the shore." 29. "Trismegistus, where will these be settled now?" 30. "Asclepius, in the great city that is on the Libyan mountain ... (2 lines missing) ... it frightens [...] as a great evil, in ignorance of the matter. For death occurs, which is the dissolution of the labors of the body, and the number (of the body), when it (death) completes the number of the body. For the number is the union of the body. Now the body dies when it is not able to support the man. And this is death: the dissolution of the body and the destruction of the sensation of the body. And it is not necessary to be afraid of this, nor because of this, but because of what is not known, and is disbelieved (is one afraid)." 31. "But what is not known, or is disbelieved?" 32. "Listen, Asclepius! There is a great demon. The great God has appointed him to be overseer or judge over the souls of men. And God has placed him in the middle of the air, between earth and heaven. Now when the soul comes forth from (the) body, it is necessary that it meet this daimon. Immediately, he (the daimon) will surround this one (masc.), and he will examine him in regard to the character that he has developed in his life. And if he finds that he piously performed all of his actions for which he came into the world, this (daimon) will allow him ... (1 line missing) ... turn him [...]. But if he sees [...] in this one [...] he brought his life into evil deeds, he grasps him, as he flees upward, and throws him down, so that he is suspended between heaven and earth, and is punished with a great punishment. And he will be deprived of his hope, and will be in great pain. 33. "And that soul has been put neither on the earth nor in heaven, but it has come into the open sea of the air of the world, the place where there is a great fire, and crystal water, and furrows of fire, and a great upheaval. The bodies are tormented (in) various (ways). Sometimes they are cast down into the fire, in order that it may destroy them. Now, I will not say that this is the death of the soul, for it has been delivered from evil, but it is a death sentence. 34. "Asclepius, it is necessary to believe these things and to fear them, in order that we might not encounter them. For unbelievers are impious, and commit sin. Afterwards, they will be compelled to believe, and they will not hear by word of mouth only, but will experience the reality itself. For they kept believing that they would not endure these things. Nor only ... (1 line missing). First, Asclepius, all those of the earth die, and those who are of the body cease [...] of evil [...] with these of this sort. For those who are here are not like those who are there. So with the daimons who [...] men, they despite [...] there. Thus, it is not the same. But truly, the gods who are here will punish more whoever has hidden it here every day." 35. "Trismegistus, what is the character of the iniquity that is there?" 36. "Now you think, Asclepius, that when one takes something in a temple, he is impious. For that kind of a person is a thief and a bandit. And this matter concerns gods and men. But do not compare those here with those of the other place. Now I want to speak this discourse to you confidentially; no part of it will be believed. For the souls that are filled with much evil will not come and go in the air, but they will be put in the places of the daimons, which are filled with pain, (and) which are always filled with blood and slaughter, and their food, which is weeping, mourning, and groaning." 37. "Trismegistus, who are these (daimons)?" 38. "Asclepius, they are the ones who are called 'stranglers', and those who roll souls down on the dirt, and those who scourge them, and those who cast into the water, and those who cast into the fire, and those who bring about the pains and calamities of men. For such as these are not from a divine soul, nor from a rational soul of man. Rather, they are from the terrible evil." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Kevlar2000 God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Kevlar2000 thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Backwards ESP or Past Telling Hi All you and all are beloved to me like family God loves us all my dear friends You may asked what is “Backwards ESP” its when you tell a person the past by a super power of make believe with knowledge of their basic past for most here lets begin 1. You came from another person a mother and father 2. You were in a cult 3. You had to buy your way in my a class called PFAL 4. You were used for slave labor in some way while in the Way cult 5. So leaders talk to in a hateful tone 6. You have looked back and ask why did you join the way 7. While you come to Grease Spot Café now you recall when you first came 8. you did a lot of thinking about the good times and the bad times 9. you got mad at the Way now I am sure others can add to this a thing I hope I hope we do not have to open up parts under “about the Way” called “about the *.*” the *.* being the names of spinner groups of the way cult thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Belle, ex10, TheEvan, and waterbuffalo God loves us all my dear friends your Mama's bit is great " Their farts stink too!" thanks for the wisdom thanks for the loving smilley nice pants were can we all get pants like that your all are welcome thank you all with love and a holy kiss blowing your ways Roy

God first We all put our pants on the same way 01-15-2007 Here I Roy William Perry III know as year2027 write to you to talk to you my friends of Grease Spot Café. God loves us all as we all know and you heard me say before. While listen to GS Radio episode 8 part 1 and 2 a conversation with Dr. John Juedes it got me thinking so I wanted to write to you about what came to my mind. One of the things that came to mind is what are apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers, and any so called leaders to do for a group of believers. The Way leaders and many churches think they are to set guidelines and control how others think but I say that is not the love of God. We all put on our pants the same and with that being true we all make up our own minds as for what to believe and what not to believe. I believe apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers, and any so called leaders are to build believers up to go to God themself on any given subject themself. More or less we are to get each other to think about things as we search our hearts to what we want to believe as true. With God and his son the Christ it’s a walk that we must do our self and we can not walk on the feet of others and get truth. Believe it or not truth is not all ways the same for each person because details in our life are not the same even our heath changes where the best place for us to live on these earth. I hate when I see churches setting out a list of doctrines their church lives by because that closes the door to the person who is not ready to deal with any given subject. I believe to live love as we learn to walk in love then we will cover the subject we need to cover in our lives as God shows us because he knows were we need help more than any leader. While leaders are to point us to God and Christ we must take it after that and do our own walking and talking with God and Christ our self. Now I hope I have never push my believes on any of you because my goal is to share my heart and then each person can use my words as they see best. Now lets talk about Personal Prophecy which can be a good thing if used right but personal is to build you up to talk to God and Christ yourself personally. Now Personal Prophecy will not tell you were to take your personal life because God has given you free will to do that, nor will it tell to fire a person or try to control another persons life and any way. But it might tell you what best for you but only after you have asked in pray by just talking with God with a heart searching for a answer. But do not get me wrong Personal Prophecy can be a good thing when it is free to build that person up to go to God their self more in their life. I will stop here with the statement we all put our pants on the same way and no one but God and Christ is greater than me nor am I greater than any one either we are all the same just children. Thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved dmiller God loves you my dear friend I glad you were able to comment on the Red Thread discussion yes all ways be nice I tried to be nice when I was there my goal was to get them to think out side the way which a lot do while there I got a lot of personal messages and I hope they talk to you that way too then you can help the one's ready for help or the one's who just need questions answer I may be too far out there walking on sun rays for them at this time thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Belle God loves you my dear friend you hit the nail on the head when you said - "I suspect there isn't much activity over there due to the sheer fact that even the kids know they can't really talk about anything they want or think over there" great truth my friend I would say many stop bye here at times yes great truth -- "if they did want to talk about those things, it wouldn't be at these TWI monitored sites." that why it blesses me to see some from here there so they can send a private message if they want I got a few for a while yes -- "they aren't stupid when it comes to knowing what the consequences for breaking those unwritten rules are." great things to bring to light my friend Belle and we should all keep these things in mind if we visit thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Jerry God loves you my dear friend yes fertilization like an egg being fertilized sorry that my speeling is not better take your time my friend pondering on this one but make up your own mind my friend thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Sushi and Abigail God loves you two on this great day Happy Anniversary Sushi and Abigail hope you two had a great dinner thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Mr. Hammeroni God loves us all my dear friend yes some of the things they teach their children I do not agree with too thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved socks Yes it is only open to "Anyone who is part of the Way International Biblical Research Ministry" and that is there right As for vegetarian discussion all I did was tell her its ok to be a vegetarian because Adam was order to eat of the trees not animals I used the myspace to private the person now I may be wrong I do not know I will have to think about it for a while Now in myspace they can delete and not read what I wrote or not write me back but I try one time and leave it there but its very rare I do this but I will think on it my friend thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved potato God loves us all my dear friend yes a new group would be nice and I am sure some here would come and join My space is a great space I look there alot but I do more on boards another great place is Care2 which I am a member too But I do not know my way around Care2 yet but they do a lot of good thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved potato God loves you my dear friend yes that must of happen thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Ca_dreaming God loves you my dear friend I glad it blesses you hearing that blesses me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Cman and Jerry God loves us all my dear friends Yes all ways there but not Fertillize until we set Christ Fertillize the seed to make it alive of value yes it whether you believe it should read born or Fertillize I say its a act of Fertillize the seed but a lot of people read born it be a hard thing to put in words that look nice even in today value thank you two with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Cman God loves us all my dear friend I just had to tell how the statement below blessed me its a great truth --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because everyone is different and has different perspectives, and everyone is the same cause we were all cut from the same stone. Just different angles and shapes of thinking that can be seen if we just try to see from different angles. And help to reshape that stone into a more flexible useful tool for helping each other. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved DMiller, and potato God loves you my dear friends yes I could sign up on another name but I will not lie to them I help as I am sure others have help too and my time is over but others like socks can have their time to try I know I help because of the things I was told in private about some being still put on probation I sorry your not welcome either David but like me you can personal send out to one if something stands out very few things stand out because I do not go there very must but I guess I like to know what happen there from time to time more being just being nosely thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved RumRunner, potato, Mr. Hammeroni, and frank123lol God loves us all my dear friends glad you all are having fun yes we are free now and for me this place has help free me yes we paid our way into the way prison class after class a fleshly prison then we had to work to get out of the prison of our minds thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved socks God loves us my dear friends yes the group is for "Way Believers" yes I'm not a member either yes I had a good time while there and I understand me have to leave and that ok yes I do not want to hassle them and I have advice to a few but that is rare what makes me say WOW is the lack of movement there and that some of my treads are still there and they have not been delete thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved GrouchoMarxJr: God loves you my dear friend enjoy your new laptop computer thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Tom Strange, Out There, and dmiller God loves you my dear friends good to see you three there thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Ps maybe some of you can help because there are a lot of good people there who personally E-mail me for a while

God first Beloved Jerry God loves us my dear friend I know your not picking on me my friend as you having a hard time understanding I having a hard time putting it in words I guess its by word of knowledge more than research I believe the day of Pentecost was the re-creation talk about in Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. re-creation of God created in the beginning Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: God created all things for the coming of Jesus Christ Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: by God all things were created for Jesus Christ and by Jesus Christ all things were re-created Col RWP 1:16 For him (Jesus Christ) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created For by him (Jesus Christ), and for him (Jesus Christ): For him (Jesus Christ) in the beginning and by him (Jesus Christ) when won over death by making all things new To me the holy spirit in Adam - God's image in Adam is the same way holy spirit was created in Jesus Christ the son - the same way holy spirit was created or planted in us I try it again Being implanted first time by the act of sex our fleshly seed in the womb of our mother's Being implanted the second by a act of love a sex like act but greater when the seed of Christ is planted in the womb of our hearts -- born again they say but its more of being planted again I hope this helps thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Jerry God loves us my dear friend you asked – “How do you square this with the term incorruptible seed?” incorruptible seed is seed that does not corruptible but lets look to see what we find the word incorruptible is used 4 times in 4 verses but never with seed 1 Cor 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. Two differ kinds of rewards 1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. The “put on” is like putting on a garment or invest with clothing more like putting on a new image 1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, we inheritance a incorruptible image or immortality image now we find the verse we need 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Being implanted again not with fleshly seed but with spiritual seed the word born again is beget and how are we beget as a seed there all so incorruption 1 Cor 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: which resurrection of the dead there is a resurrection of the dead - people looking for the first coming -- believers from Adam to last person who die before Christ rose from the death - saved by the laws or works there is a resurrection of the dead - people looking for the second coming -- people who die after Jesus Christ came to inner their hearts from day of Pentocost forward - saved by grace there is a resurrection of the dead - people looking for the final coming -- all from Adam up who are saved by judgment 1 Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. When this is complete there will be no more death but back to your question --- “How do you square this with the term incorruptible seed?” corruptible seed is fleshly seed by the action of fleshly creation incorruptible seed is spiritual seed by the action of receiving the gift of holy spirit while the seed is incorruptible seed that does not mean it will grow to be born into a incorruptible body Look Adam had a incorruptible seed but by his action he killed his seed or image before spiritual birth and what some will do by not watering their seed which gives Jesus Christ right to say “I know you not” to some that have spoke in tongues or prophecy in his name Like Adam live with the seed of holy spirit and killed the image others will and can today by blaspheme against the Holy Ghost a act of action but this is just me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved YIdon'tgotoc... God loves you my dear friend its good to see you thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Cman and Jerry God loves us my dear friend thank you More about accountably for mankind 15 is the spiritual accountably for mankind at birth is the fleshly accountably of the child to parents now the accountably for mankind to nations, cults. familes, states, cities, towns, and so differ from one another because the differ in the laws of the flesh just saw the need to add more on accountably for mankind thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy