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God first Beloved Ca_dreaming God loves you my dear friend yes "Lord works in mysterious ways" your welcome I am glad you "caught the kiss" thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Mr. and Mrs. Socks God loves you my dear friend Happy Anniversary Mr. and Mrs. Socks thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved frank123lol and Eyesopen God loves you my dear friend I think the Way will never ever admit their wrong too unless its a way to get money your welcome yes "Not everything that they taught or are teaching is wrong, but so much of it was and is wrong" yes admitting to thier errors needs to come first I got this from a Ex-JW board going on so many boards I see things that might be enjoy here too thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Friends God loves you my dear friend I hope some are not judging Tonia to fast because we have all been missunderstood before As we have all been taught wrong but I am not saying she was taught wrong but What I am saying leave room for any possibleable reason now below is the reply John send me and I am happy it took so long because I like thing that are done out of love and believe that was his goal even if we do not see eye to eye on all things thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy John Email to me ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roy, Tonia did not say EVERYONE that is depressed is possessed, but that for some possession can be the problem. AND if that is the case, they don't needed shunned they need helped if at all possible. Tonia understands full well the problem of depression and bipolar. Here father has dealt with it for at least 30 years or more. Tonia is also a nurse and understands the medication end of dealing with this kind of problem. BUT Tonia ALSO understands the spiritual side that can be at the root of this problem. Before you get judgmental of Tonia concerned what somebody wrote about her on Grease Spot, of which we are not followers of this website nor do we make decisions and judgment about what we teach and HOW we minister to people that need help. So Roy, I understand your situation and from where you make judgment, but in this case I do not agree with you. We are NOT the Way Ministry who for years labeled people and dumped them. We endeavor to help all we can. We also are not afraid to speak the truth of GOD'S Word concerning the subject you brought up. Lovingly in Christ, John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my reply back to John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God first Beloved John God loves you my dear friend I was not judgmenting her but I was pointing that I believe this needs to be addressed because of the hearts of people with these problems But I know how easy it is to be miss quoted or some see things in words that are not there By using the ending "blowing a holy kiss " the things I hear your can only image because most people do not understand what a holy kiss and the differ from a big wet one from a kiss of love blowing in the wind Now I get this on some boards and I am trying to use it as a example for you to understand my heart. Whether you like Grease Spot Cafe it does not matter there are many of your people there and its a hot sunject . Being not afraid to speak the truth is one thing but being willing to love the unloveable is another thing or other wise saying your sorry even if you feel you did no wrong Like I am sorry for the missunderstanding of my words my heart was not for you to think I was judging her but for you to clear things up I am not judgmentual of Tonia I can not even picture her its been so long My situation is I love God and there nothing to understand its just a walk I must care that Tonia may of been miss understood but I must all so care that some may run from your doors because of what they read If I had not known your heart personally and people like Carol Barney's heart personally I might of judged first but I wanted to leave that open Now if I phase it wrong I am sorry or if you miss understood me I am sorry I posted what I wrote on Grease Spot Cafe because I believe there were some truths in it about devil spirits and depression and bipolar that could help I believe most groups do not understand devil spirits and that why I wrote " The Leap down of Adam " and I will send it next. depression is something I believe we all deal with from time to time because of many things Jesus Christ talk to the sickness whether it was cancer or depression - depression because of a lost one or what ever reason I am not sure what To write so I will end here I know your group is trying to do right as is Allan Woodhouse group but that does not mean we will all ways agree on everything thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now I hope we can leave about Tonia and keep learning together how to deal with depression thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved WhiteDove God loves you my dear friend I agree with Shane thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved friends God loves you all my dear friends should be "What if the Way Ministry came out with a video like this?" http://www.lhvm.org/vid_trailctbf_broad.htm check it out thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved sirguessalot or Todd God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday, sirguessalot thanks for being here to teach us so many things with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Hopefull God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Dearest Hopefull thanks you being part of our lives with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Thomas Loy Bumganer, Sunesis, and Listener God loves you my dear friends Thomas Loy Bumganer - yes I agree Sunesis - the person given you the Watchtower magazine is paying for it - it would be like you signing a person for PFAL and you paying for the class yes I am thrankful for "Christian sites where you can get free downloads. Amazing articles, you just print right off, no one's making money." and there are many boards and chat rooms to talk about God too yes I agree "These ministries need a "product" to stay alive. I think there will be some very surprised Christian "ministers" someday" Listener - yes "the practice should be stopped" but it will keep going to the end of time and we can do is teach others to keep their money in the bank yes its his "living will" thank you all with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved cman God loves you my dear friend I been watching this tread hoping others will reply I love it because its the way I see it too We give a reason so others wanted to look into it know our reason even the reason I feel its right in my heart what I have proved in my heart I have made my own beliefe thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Eyesopen God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Dear friend Eyesopen glad you are part of our lives thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first The Leap down of Adam wrote 03-24-2007 Beloved friends of Grease Spot Café, God loves you my dear friends. Here I sat thinking about what the Way Ministry called the fall of mankind, but how did they get that mankind fell and gave their image of God to the devil. Lets look at the verses in Genesis 3 Genesis 3:1 "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Look the serpent the devil was more subtle than any beast of the field but Adam and Eve were not beast of the field. But what are the beast of the field? For this we look at Genesis one when the beast of the field were first made. Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. These beast of the field are animals and these animals were not created in the image of God but in the image of living creatures or soul life beings. Now back to Genesis 3. Genesis 3:1 "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." Here we see the devil playing like he is God in this verses or that he knows more than God. Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:" Here we the devil Lucifer by name is playing God by saying " in his heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation". But back to Genesis 3. Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Which eyes were open the fleshly eyes or the spiritual eyes? We know God can not lie so one could say their spiritual eyes were closed and their fleshly eyes were open. Lets move on. Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. They heard fleshly because their spiritual ears were closed. Lets move on. Genesis 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. Fear is a fleshly thing because there no fear in spiritual things only love and trust. Lets move on. Genesis 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. The women lead me to eat and Adam ate or was he passing the dollar. Lets move on. Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. The serpent or the devil trick me into eating. Lets move on. Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Here again we see the devil or the serpent as just a beast of the field. Lets move on. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Look the women will now have children like animals as if before children would come another way. Lets move on. Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Before life was easy but now mankind will have to work to get food until he returns to dust. Lets move on. Genesis 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. 21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Genesis 3: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. Live forever in the form of flesh never having hope so God stop Adam from not having hope making him learn to work earning value of the gifts of God in the eyes of Adam. Lets look at Isaiah 14 again. Isaiah 14:11 "Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:" We see by the time Isaiah was wrote that the serpent named Lucifer who we call the devil is dead and worms cover his fleshly body. After reading all these verses I can not find any place showing the devil receiving the image of God and becoming a spiritual being. So I think the Way Ministry fear of the devil is based on poor translations of words and a men wanted to control his people by fear. Now do not I see mankind falling but I see it being more like Adam and Eve jumped from spiritual life to fleshly by killing themself more like jumping off a cliff spiritually. As for the devil I see if more like God ripped off the devil wings because of what he did. But this is just me. Thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Thomas Loy Bumganer God loves you my dear friend yes they are "indulgences" I like that (salvations by knowledge/information(works), ) how true Maybe if we stop buying we have more car sale persons today thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Groucho Marx Jr God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Groucho Marx Jr thanks for being part of our lives with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Dougie God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Dougie thanks for being part of our lives with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Watered Garden God loves you my dear friend Happy Birthday Dear, dear Watered Garden thanks for being part of our lives with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved Hopefull God loves you my dear friend yes you are not posessed just dealing with a lot of things and we love you take care my friend thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first Beloved friends God loves you my dear friend I this reply on this board http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry106548 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Black holes... interesting. The nature of a black hole is that it sucks everything around it, even light, so that it cannot be seen. The only means by which we can "see" it is by the gravitational reactions surrounding it. Which nasa has seen with the Hubble Telescope. They have seen a presumed extremely intense gravity well that does not emit light. What is left to surmise? A black hole. Now understandably part of the key to the "big bang" is the formation of black holes... as such they can be interpreted as an athiestic event. However, don't let that stop you from debating the issue. For example there are many things that a black hole may be. They may be a window of heaven, They may be the doorway to hell, They may be the very mouth of satan eating the dust of the earth. And finally with the postulate that the void and God's statment "let there be light" may enteract like oil and water. Meaning the void cannot mix with God's light, that would create two kinds of water. Void water and Light water. "...and God separated the waters from the waters..." What if the black holes are a point in time where God's light returns to him and the void returns to itself? Essentially a whirlpool of dual time... void returns to void and light returns to light. A colloidal suspension. YBIC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy