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Love of Money, money and more money
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
God first Beloved David Miller God loves you y dear friend Yes join in your two cent but forgive if I do not agree you said -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I should expect to walk into a movie theater, and see the movie for free. I should be able to go to the local grocery store, and pay nothing for my groceries. I should be able to heat my home, without worrying about paying for the natural gas bill. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- that not going to happen but I see working the word of God as a act of love and I can give you verses like 2 Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service. Gen 47:15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth. money fails and money is the root of all evil while there are more if a person has desided its ok nothing will changed their mind I used to think its was ok VPW told us he only took $200.00 a month pay but look how much money he used but we must not forget the great gift Christ gave for us and the many works written down over the years that have cost no money And yes a labor is worthly of his labor John 4:38 I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours. our reward for labor is life after death with are spiritual rewards that do not rust But when we work fleshly we get fleshly rewards which sets the labor of love of the ministry as one thing and the labor of fleshly things another thing In my eyes I sure it is (Their work on One God and One Lord is an EXCELLENT piece of writing.) but I will never read it because I will not buy the book nor will I ask for it free but this is me I am not upset that they and others charged for books I just think its wrong like what Simon the S. and acts wanted to do -- sale the truths God has revealed to a person is wrong in my eyes What does that mean to me -- the one thing a person might need to believe is out of their reach this tread was wrote to address all that charged to get rich not just CES thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way -
Love of Money, money and more money
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
God first Beloved Holy Smoke God loves you my dear friend the cost is very little if you share your work by the internet the best way the basic imternet cost $10-50 a month basic web site $20 - 500 a month depending on size then the is Email the work out home print a book and in in a fyler form cost of good printer about $200 - 5,000 - paper $2 - 100 depending on copies ink $70 - 200 laster ink yes I know but Paul had none of these things and he reach all Asia Acts 19:10 And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks. there books only reach the people in their group how money do you think Paul had The Way said they are not rich either 1 Cor 9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? spiritual things we are talking about here look up the word money it loses it value look up Jesus Christ said about tithing Matt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. the tithe being part of the law than the is Paul's statement when he got money just for his needs 2 Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service. he called it robbed and there are other places is not written a book doing us service sure CES and others do things right and they do things wrong too from the word and knowing what love is Why become a non tax church if there not money in it to become non tax church you follower a set of guide lines if I ever make a manmade church I will never subject it to the goverment to save a little money there will be no money took in just people coming together I hope you know I not mad at CES I just do not believe its right to sale God's word in any way and yes you do not have to agree with me I can be wrong been wrong before but believe I am right and a saw nothing to get me to asked God about it again but I will for the sakes of a few thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
The Church "Fathers"....... losers.
year2027 replied to Lone Wolf McQuade's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Long Wolf McQuade God loves you my dear friend yes Jesus Christ and the 12 apostels are the true church fathers all others are just false that why I read books like the Gnostic books and others rock was build on --------- not the Roman Catholic church but some of them wrote great books too I like this subject thanks for written it with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Love of Money, money and more money
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
God first Beloved nyunknown God loves you my dear friends they are getting fat I wish they give our money back thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
Love of Money, money and more money
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
God first Beloved TrustAndObey and blarney God loves you my dear friends I see you two are having fun I love to see a loving gentel debate thanks thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Beloved Lone Wolf McQuade and pond God loves you my dear friends Lone Wolf McQuade - you do not have to agree with me -- As for "One God & One Lord from CES" I believe they should love you enough to Email you the first copy - but this is me seeing everything spiritual as a personal fellowship one on one My Time Line on my web page took me more than one year and I still add to it now and then but its free and some despise it and trample on it has it being ridiculous but its my heart's work air is not free we must breath take action wisdom we must ask God or Christ for wisdom all elst is worldly wisdom even if on the word of God research only shows you what the natural men see's but the key is too see it spiritual the deep insight pond - Paul had the same needs as all of us we are have the same basic needs eat, drink, sleep, breath, and other basic needs but others are wants Paul was in a ministry before he join Christ he was in the Ministry of sin why does anything have to be publish? everybody and everygroup has accountability either to God or the world yes the devil does not like the truth The truth is a group or person either worships money or God thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved friends God loves you my dear friend "The Sibylline Oracles" here the rest of the book but the is a book 2 and 3 plus many pages to look at ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chapter 11 1. A steep, tall mountain; Ararat its name, Because upon it all were to be saved From death, and there was great desire of heart; Thence streams of the great river Marsyas spring. 2. There on a lofty peak the ark abode When the waters ceased, and then again from heaven The voice divine of the great God this word Proclaimed: "O Noah, guarded, faithful, just, Come boldly forth, with thy sons and thy wife 3. And the three brides, and fill ye all the earth, Increasing, multiplying, rendering justice To one another through all generations, Until to judgment every race of men Shall come; for judgment shall be unto all." 4. Thus spoke the voice divine. Then from his couch Noah, encouraged, hastened on the land, And with him went his sons and wife and brides, And creeping things, and birds and quadrupeds, And all things else went from the wooden house 5. Into one place. And then went Noah forth As eighth, most just of men, when on the waters He had made full twice twenty days and one Because of counsels of the mighty God. Then a new stock of life again arose, 6. Golden first, which indeed was sixth, and best, Chapter 12 1. From the time when the first-formed man appeared; Heavenly its name, because all things to God Shall be a care. O first race of sixth age! O mighty joy which I thereafter shared, 2. When I escaped sheer ruin, by the waves Much tossed, with husband and with brothers-in-law, Stepfather and stepmother, and with wives Of husband's brothers suffering terribly. Fitting things now will I sing: There shall be 3. On the fig-tree a many-colored flower, And afterward the royal power and sway Shall Cronos have. For three kings of great soul, Men most just, shall distribute portions then, And many a year rule, rendering what is just 4. To men who care for toil and deeds of love. And earth shall glory in her many fruits Self-growing, yielding much corn for the race. And the foster-fathers, ageless all their days, Shall from diseases chill and dreadful be 5. Far aloof; they shall die as fallen on sleep, And unto Acheron in the abodes Of Hades they shall go away, and there Shall they have honor, since they were a race Chapter 13 1. Of blessed ones, fortunate heroes, whom 2. The Lord of Sabaoth gave a noble mind, And with whom always he his counsels shared. But blessed shall they be even when they go In Hades. And then afterward again Oppressive, strong, another second race 3. Of earth-born men, the Titans. All excel In figure, stature, growth; and there shall be One language, as of old from the first race God in their breasts implanted. But even these, Having a haughty heart and rushing on 4. To ruin, shall at last resolve to fight Against the starry heaven. And then the stream Of the great ocean shall upon them pour Its raging waters. But the mighty Lord Of Sabaoth though enraged shall check his wrath, 5. Because he promised that again no flood Should be brought upon men of evil soul. But when the great high-thundering God shall cause The boundless swelling of the many waters– With their waves hither and thither rising high-- 6. To cease from wrath, and into other depths Of sea their measure lessen, setting bounds By harbors and rough headlands round the land; Then also shall a child of the great God Come, clothed in flesh, to men, and fashioned like 7. To mortals in the earth; and he doth hear Chapter 14 1. Four vowels, and two consonants in him Are twice announced; the whole sum I will name: For eight ones, and as many tens on these, And yet eight hundred will reveal the name 2. To men insatiate; and do thou discern In thine own understanding that the Christ Is child of the immortal God most high. And he shall fulfill God's law, not destroy, Bearing his very image, and all things 3. Shall he teach. Unto him shall priests convey And offer gold, and myrrh, and frankincense; For all these things he'll also bring to pass. But when a voice shall through the desert land Come bearing tidings to men, and to all 4. Shall call to make straight paths, and from the heart Cast wickedness out and illuminate With water all the bodies of mankind, That being born again they may no more From what is righteous go at all astray-- 5. And one of barbarous mind, by dances bound, Cutting that (voice) off shall bestow reward– Chapter 15 1. Then on a sudden there shall be a sign To mortals, when, watched over, there shall come Out of the land of Egypt a fair stone; 2. And on it shall the Hebrew people stumble; But by his guiding nations shall be brought Together; for the God who rules on high They also shall know through him, and the way In common light. For unto chosen men 3. Will he show life eternal, but the fire Will be for ages on the lawless bring. And then shall he the sickly heal, and all Who are blameworthy who shall trust in him.. And then the blind shall see, the lame shall walk, 4. The deaf shall hearken, and the dumb shall speak. Demons shall he drive out, and of the dead There shall be an uprising; on the waves Shall he walk; also in a desert place Shall he five thousand satisfy with food 5. From five loaves and a fish out of the sea, And with the remnants of them, for the hope Of peoples, shall he fill twelve baskets full. And then shall Israel, drunken, not discern, Nor shall they hear, oppressed with feeble cars. 6. But when the maddening wrath of the Most High Shall come upon the Hebrews, and take faith Away from them, because they slew the Son Of the heavenly God; then also with foul lips Chapter 16 1. Shall Israel give him cuffs and spittle drugged. 2. And gall for food and vinegar unmixed For drink will they, with evil madness smitten In bosom and in heart, give impiously, Not seeing with their eyes, more blind than moles, More terrible than crawling poisonous beasts, 3. Fast bound by heavy sleep. But when his hands He shall spread forth and measure out all things, And bear the crown of thorns, and they shall pierce His side with reeds, for which dark monstrous night Shall be for three hours in the midst of day, 4. Then also shall the temple of Solomon Bring to an end a mighty sign for men, When he shall to the house of Hades go Proclaiming resurrection to the dead. But when in three days he shall come again 5. Unto the light, and show his form to men And teach all things, ascending in the clouds Unto the house of heaven shall he go Leaving the world a Gospel convenant. And in his name shall blossom a new shoot 6. From nations that are guided by the law Of the Mighty One. But also after this There shall be wise guides, and then afterward There shall be a cessation of the prophets. After that, when the Hebrew people reap 7. Their evil harvest, shall a Roman king Much gold and silver utterly destroy. And afterward shall other royal powers Continuously arise as kingdoms perish, Chapter 17 1. And they will oppress mortals. But great fall 2. Shall be for those men, when they shall begin Unrighteous arrogance. But when the temple Of Solomon in the holy land shall fall, Cast down by barbarous men in brazen mail, And from the land the Hebrews shall be driven 3. Wandering and wasted, and among the wheat They shall much darnel mingle, there shall be Evil contention among, all mankind; And the cities suffering outrage shall bewail Each other, in their breasts receiving wrath 4. Of the great God, since they wrought evil work ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Study of the Book of Revelation part 1 04-29-2007 Beloved friends God loves us all my dear friend Today I want to look at the Book of Revelation in two ways the classic one were it’s the end of the world and were it’s the end of your body. Other wise I am looking for a group understanding and a personal one. Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Questions to asked yourself 1. Is "the Revelation of Jesus Christ" words that were revealed to John by Jesus Christ by the will of God? 2. What is shortly to God? 3. How did God’s angel signified this? Answers 1. Yes Jesus Christ revealed what to write to John, so John wrote it so we could be ready and get prepared. 2. At this time the earth is four thousand years old but if a day for God is one thousand years to us, so even two thousand years would be short to God. 3. The angel signified these prophecies by visions. But are things going to happen to your body, the earth, or both. Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. John bare record of the truth he heard and has shared with as many that would hear. Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. You are blessed if you take the time to read this book and you hear the words in your heart. Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; John is talking to the seven churches around him at the time he was written or the seven gifts of the spirit that you have now, that which you no longer use but have, and that which you will have someday from the seven parts of Christ given. God is the throne and all true power come from the throne. Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Questions 1. How can Jesus Christ be first begotten from the dead if there as not been a second ? Answer 1. There most of been others and that is why they saw Moses and John standing with Jesus Christ in the clouds. Jesus Christ was the first begotten from the dead but what is it to be begotten from the dead ? Its differ from being rose from the dead ? Yes there is. Strong’s G4416. prototokos, pro-tot-ok'-os; from G4413 and the alt. of G5088; first-born (usually as noun, lit. or fig.):--firstbegotten (-born). To be begotten is to be born and here we are talking being born into spiritual being like God as Jesus Christ was. Yes Jesus Christ loved us enough to give up his fleshly life so our sins could be washed away and we could be begotten or put on a new body if we walk in love as Jesus Christ did. Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Jesus Christ has made us royal blood line making us his brothers and sisters. Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. All animals, plants, elements, us, and every part of our body will see Jesus Christ coming either for us or not depending love or hate within our members. Is there not a eye to the heart, brain, and all the parts of us. The eye is the part that see’s the other parts. Even plants have eyes and that is why they point toward the sun because they need sun light. Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Jesus Christ is teaching us time means nothing because he is the new beginning, he is the old promise of what will come, and he is the new promise which is still to come. Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. This was were John was in the flesh for the sake of movement of love of Jesus Christ as he has testimony of Jesus Christ love unto them with patience. Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, On the Lord’s Day is the day John heard the truth by spiritual revelation like a voice as a sound of trumpet or a sound coming without a speaker. Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. The sound is the voice of Jesus Christ which told John to write that which we saw and heard spiritually. Here John names seven churches or seven parts a body can have if your still looking at these verses with two views one of earthy and the other as personal. Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; John turn to see the voice the spake with him but he saw seven golden candlesticks; We know these seven golden candlesticks are the seven churches from research we have done before. But is not this the seven spiritual lights each church can have or the seven gifts of the spirit the body can have. Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. In the midst of the church Jesus Christ leads with love or in the midst of the you Jesus Christ leads with love. Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; This is what Jesus Christ looked like. Now we know white is the purest color and eyes were as a flame of fire is talking the holy spirit the light of love of Christ. Now you can look at this words deeper but is the wool that which brings warmed which comes from sheep and was not Jesus Christ the last offering. But do not forget get talk about Jesus Christ by his body parts which are now spiritual body no longer a flesh body. Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. More talk about Jesus Christ by his body parts which are now spiritual body no longer a flesh body. His feet are sure footed and the path they walk is like fine brass if they were made pure by a spiritual fire and his voice is like many water. Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. More talk about Jesus Christ by his body parts which are now spiritual body no longer a flesh body. In his hand of blessing seven stars are the seven candlesticks or seven gift ministries or seven gifts of the spirit. One is to the church and the other is to the person. And yes there are seven gift ministries apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers, saints ministry of the word, and ministry of reconciliation then there are deacons and elders. I not sure which seven I listed but I know there are seven. Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: What John did because he did not know what to think or do but Jesus Christ comforted him told John it was Jesus Christ the first and the last. Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. I the one who lived in the flesh and was kill but I lived now and I can not die ever again I Jesus Christ have the way out of the grave of death, I am the way for you and all others that call out for me. 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; Jesus Christ told John to write this book. Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Here we see Jesus Christ giving the meaning of the seven stars, the seven golden candlesticks, and the seven churches which we have talked about earier. Now here is a begin looking at the book of Revelation as personal thing happening to you or a world wide thing happen to the world. Because God is a personal God I believe all Revelation can be looked at this way but this is only part one of what I hope to be 27 parts. Thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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The so called keys to power for abundant living
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved waysider, Kevlar2000, and Belle God loves you all my dear dear friends waysider, Kevlar2000 - thanks allways Belle I am glad you liked it and yes twi is into controling people while God is into loving us all thank you all with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
The so called keys to power for abundant living
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved Jeaniam and dmiller God loves you my dear friends thanks Jeaniam - Psalm 138:2 dmiller - sorry I been watching TV - yes she did give it before you - RWP is when I write my own translation from what I feel it should read because I have all ways believe there were verses for that statement - Roy William Perry translation do we have and DM translations on any verse I hope we have a David Miller translation from time to time which only what we think its telling us your welcome but do not believe asked your spirit inside you if I have heard my spirit right maybe I could only handle a small part of the meaning and you will see another part and together we can get a better understanding yes it is a honest question thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
The so called keys to power for abundant living
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved Bolshevik and WordWolf and doojable God loves you my dear friends Bolshevik - I hope you get the answer to the rest because I am not sure been to long its allways good to see you WordWolf doojable guess you were written as I was thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved friends God loves you my dear friend "The Sibylline Oracles" is a very long book but I am enjoying reading it so far As I been reading I been talking out notes and dividing as I see best but rember all divion is man made you can read more here http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/sib/sib00.htm have fun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Sibylline Oracles Translated from the Greek Into English Blank Verse By Milton S. Terry Professor in Garrett Biblical Institute New Edition Revised after the Text of Ruch New York: Eaton & Mains Cincinnati: Curts & Jennings [1899] .The Sibylline Oracles Book 1 Chapter 1 1. Beginning with the generation first Of mortal men down to the very last I'll prophesy each thing: what erst has been, And what is now, and what shall yet befall The world through the impiety of men. First now God urges on me to relate Truly how into being came the world.And thou, shrewd mortal, prudently make known, Lest ever thou should'st my commands neglect, The King most high, who brought into existence The whole world, saying, "Let there be," and there was. For he the earth established, placing it Round about Tartarus, and he himself Chapter 2 1. Gave the sweet light; he raised the heaven on high, Spread out the gleaming sea, and crowned the sky With an abundance of bright-shining stars, And decked the earth with plants, and mingled sea With rivers, and the air with zephyrs mixed And watery clouds; and then, another race 2. Appointing, he gave fishes to the seas And birds unto the winds, and to the woods The beasts of shaggy neck, and snakes that crawl, And all things which now on the earth appear. These by his word he made, and every thing Was speedily and with precision done; For he was self-caused and from heaven looked down And finished was the world exceeding well. And then thereafter fashioned he again A living product, copying a new man From his own image, beautiful, divine, And bade him in ambrosial garden dwell, That labors beautiful might be his care. 3. But in that fertile field of Paradise He longed for conversation, being alone, And prayed that he might see another form Such as he had. And forthwith, from man's side Taking a bone, God himself made fair Eve, A wedded spouse, and in that Paradise Gave her to dwell with him. And, when he gazed Upon her, on a sudden filled with joy Great admiration held his soul, he saw A pattern so exact; and with wise words Spontaneous flowing answered he in turn For God had care for all things. For the mind They darkened not with passion, nor concealed Their nakedness, but with hearts far from evil Even like wild beasts they walked with limbs exposed. 4. And afterwards delivering them commands God showed them not to touch a certain tree; But the dread serpent drew them off by guile To go away unto the fate of death And to gain knowledge of both good and evil. But the wife then first traitress proved to God; 5. She gave, and urged the unknowing man to sin. And he, persuaded by the woman's words, Forgot the immortal Maker utterly, And treated plain commandments with neglect. Therefore, instead of good, received they evil According to their deed. And then the leaves Of the sweet fig-tree piercing they made clothes 6. And put them on each other, and concealed The sexual parts, because they were ashamed. But on them the Immortal set his wrath And cast them out of the immortal land. For their abiding now in mortal land Was brought to pass, since hearing they kept not The word of the immortal mighty God. 7. And straightway they, upon the fruitful soil Forthgoing, with their tears and groans were wet; And to them then the immortal God himself A word more excellent spoke: "Multiply, Increase, work constantly upon the earth, That with the sweat of labor ye may have Sufficient food." Thus he spoke; and he made The author of deceit to press the ground 8. On belly and on side, a crawling snake, Driving him out severely; and he sent Dire enmity between them and the one Is on the look-out to preserve his head, But man his heel; for death is neighbor near 9. Of evil-plotting vipers and of men. And then indeed the race was multiplied As the Almighty himself gave command, And there grew up one people on another Innumerable. And houses they adorned Of all kinds and made cities and their walls 10. Well and expertly; and to them was given A day of long time for a life much-loved; For they did not worn out with troubles die, But as subdued by sleep; most happy men Of great heart, whom the immortal Saviour loved, The King, God. But they also did transgress, Smitten with folly. For with impudence 11. They mocked their fathers and their mothers scorned; Kinsmen they knew not, and they formed intrigues Against their brothers. And they were impure, Having defiled themselves with human gore, And they made wars. And then upon them came The last calamity sent forth from heaven, 12. Which snatched the dreadful men away from life; And Hades then received them; it was called Hades since Adam, having tasted death, Went first and earth encompassed him around. And therefore all men born upon the earth Are in abodes of Hades called to go. Chapter 3 1. But even in Hades all these when they came Had honor, since they were the earliest race. But when Hades received these, secondly [Of the surviving and most righteous men] God formed another very subtile race 2. That cared for lovely works, and noble toils, Distinguished reverence and solid wisdom; And they were trained in arts of every kind, Finding inventions by their lack of means. And one devised to till the land with plows, 3. Another worked in wood, another cared For sailing, and another watched the stars And practiced augury with winged fowls; And use of drugs had interest for one, While for another magic had a charm; 4. And others were in every other art Which men care for instructed, wide awake, Industrious, worthy of that eponym Because they had a sleepless mind within And a huge body; stout with mighty form 5. They were; but, notwithstanding, down they went Into Tartarean chamber terrible, Kept in firm chains to pay full penalty In Gehenna of strong, furious, quenchless fire. And after these a third strong-minded race Appeared, a race of overbearing men And terrible, who wrought among themselves 6. . Third strong-minded race.--The successive races here mentioned appear to be in imitation of Hesiod's ages or races of mankind. Hesiod applies to them the epithets of golden, silver, bronze, and iron. Chapter 4 1. Many an evil. And fights, homicides, And battles did continually destroy Those men possessed of overweening heart, And from these afterward another race Proceeded, late-completed, youngest born, Blood-stained, perverse in counsel; of men these Were in the fourth race; much the blood they spilled, 2. Nor feared they God nor had regard for men, For maddening wrath and sore impiety Were sent upon them. And wars, homicides, And battles sent some into Erebus, Since they were overweening impious men. 3. But the rest did the heavenly God himself In anger afterwards change from his world, Casting them into mighty Tartarus Down under the foundation of the earth. And later yet another race much worse 4. [Of men he made, to whom no good thereafter] The Immortal formed, since they wrought many evils. For they were much more violent than those, Giants perverse, foul language pouring out. Single among all men, most just and true, 5. Was the most faithful Noah, full of care For noblest works. And to him God himself From heaven thus spoke: "Noah, be of good cheer In thyself and to all the people preach Repentance, so that they may all be saved. 6. But if, with shameless soul, they heed me not The whole race I will utterly destroy Chapter 5 1. With mighty floods of waters. Quickly now An undecaying house I bid thee frame Of planks strong and impervious to the wet. 2. I will put understanding in thy heart, And subtile skill, and rule of measurement And order; and for all things will I care That thou be saved, and all who dwell with thee. And I am He who is, and in thy heart 3. Do thou discern. I clothe me with the heaven, And cast the sea around me, and for me Earth is a footstool, and the air is poured Around my body; and on every side Around me runs the chorus of the stars. 4. Nine letters have I; of four syllables I am; discern me. The first three have each Two letters, the remaining one the rest, And five are mates; and of the entire sum The hundreds are twice eight and thrice three tens 5. Along with seven. Now, knowing who I am, Chapter 6 1. Be thou not uninitiate in my lore." Thus he spoke; and great trembling seized on him At what he heard. And then, within his mind Having contrived each matter, he besought 2. The people and began with words like these: "O men insatiate, smit with madness great, Whatever things ye practiced they shall not Escape God's notice; for he knows all things, Immortal Saviour overseeing all, 3. Who bade me warn you, that ye perish not. Be sober, cut off badness, do not fight Perforce each other with blood-guilty heart, Nor irrigate much land with human gore. Revere, O mortals, the supremely great 4. And fearless heavenly Creator, God Imperishable, whose dwelling is the sky; And do ye all entreat him--he is kind– For life of cities and of all the world, And of four-footed beasts and flying fowls; 5. Entreat him to be gracious unto all. For when the whole unbounded world of men Shall be destroyed by waters loud ye'll raise Chapter 7 1. A fearful cry. And suddenly for you The air shall be disordered, and from heaven 2. The fury of the mighty God shall come Upon you. And it certainly shall be That the immortal Saviour against men Will send wrath if ye do not placate God And from this time repent; and nothing more 3. Fretful and evil lawlessly shall ye One to another do, but let there be A guarding of one's self by holy life." But when they heard him each turned up his nose, Calling him mad, a frenzy-smitten man. 4. And then again did Noah sound this strain: "O men exceeding wretched, base in heart, Unstable, leaving modesty behind And loving shamelessness, rapacious lords, Fierce sinners, false, insatiate, mischievous, 5. In nothing true, stealthy adulterers, Flippant in language, pouring forth foul words, The wrath of God most high not fearing, kept To the fifth generation to atone! In no way do ye wail, harsh men, but laugh; 6. Sardonic smile shall ye laugh, when shall come That which I speak--God's dire incoming flood, When Eve's polluted race, in the great earth Blooming perennial in impervious stem, Shall, root and branch, in one night disappear, 7. And cities, men and all, shall the Earth-shaker Chapter 8 1. From the depths scatter and their walls destroy. And then the whole world of unnumbered men Shall die. But how shall I weep, how lament In wooden house, how mingle tears with waves? 2. For, if this water bidden of God shall come, Earth shall float, hills float, and even sky shall float; Everything shall be water, and all things Shall be destroyed by waters. And the winds Shall stand still, and a second age shall come. 3. O Phrygia, thou shalt from the water's crest First rise up, and thou first another race Of men shalt nourish, once again anew Beginning; and thou shalt be nurse for all." But when now to the lawless generation 4. He had thus vainly spoken, the Most High Appeared, and once more cried aloud and said: "The time is now come, Noah, to proclaim Each thing, even all which I that day to thee Did promise and confirm, and to complete, 5. Because of a people disobedient, Throughout the boundless world even all the things Which generations of a former time Did practice, evil things innumerable. But do thou quickly enter with thy sons 6. And the wives. Call as many as I bid, Of tribes of beasts and creeping things and birds, And in as many as I ordain for life Will I then put a willingness to go." Thus spoke he; forth went (Noah) and aloud 7. Cried out and called. And then wife, sons and brides, Entered the house of wood; then also went Chapter 9 1. The other things, as many as God willed To shut in. But when fitting bolt was put About the lid, and in its polished place 2. Was fitted sideways, then was brought to pass Forthwith the purpose of the God of heaven. And he massed clouds, and bid the sun's bright disk, And moon, and stars, and circle of the heaven, Obscuring all things round; he thundered loud, 3. Terror of mortals, sending lightnings forth; And all the winds together were aroused, And all the veins of water were unloosed By opening of great cataracts from heaven, And from earth's caverns and the tireless deep 4. Appeared the myriad waters, and the whole Illimitable earth was covered o'er. But on the water swam that wondrous house; And torn by many furious waves, and struck By force of winds, it rushed on fearfully; 5. But with its keel it cut the mass of foam While the loud-babbling waters dashed around. But when God deluged all the world with rains Then also Noah took thought to observe By counsels of the Immortal; for he now 6. Had had enough of Nereus. And straightway The house he opened from the polished wall, That crosswise was bound fast with skillful stays. And looking out upon the mighty mass Of boundless waters Noah on all sides– Chapter 10 1. And 'twas his fortune with his eyes to see!– Fear possessed and shook mightily his heart. And then the air became a little calm, Since it was weary wetting all the world Many days; parting, then, it brought to light 2. How pale and blood-red was the mighty sky And sun's bright disk awearied; scarcely held Noah his courage. And then forth afar Sent he a dove alone, that he might learn If yet firm land appeared. But with tired wing, 3. Flying round all things, she again returned; For not yet had the water ebbed away; For it was deeply filling every place. But after resting quietly for days He sent the dove once more, to learn if yet 4. Had ceased the many waters. And she flew And flew on, and went o'er the earth and, resting Her body lightly on the humid ground, Again to Noah back she came and bore An olive branch--of tidings a great sign. 5. Courage now filled them all, and great delight, Because they hoped to look upon the land. But then thereafter yet another bird, Of black wing, sent he forth as hastily; Which, trusting to its wings, flow willingly, 6. And coming to the land continued there. And Noah knew the land was nearer now. But when on dashing waves the craft divine Had here and there o'er ocean's billows swum, It was made fast upon the narrow strand. 7. There is in Phrygia on the dark mainland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Sudo, and RainbowsGirl God loves you two my dear friends yes Sudo I had not saw the yellow bar to upgraded yet and now I know it was you Sudo thanks and your welcome I loved hearing it while reading RainbowsGirl you have a beautiful heart too RainbowsGirl thanks for the hugs thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved excathedra, Shellon Fockler North and Sudo, and T-Bone God loves us all my dear friends excathedra - thanks for the hugs Shellon Fockler North and Sudo - I think I hear that song T-Bone - I glad the ears of corn heard and I am glad you liked it thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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How to turn off your brain and become a TWIt...or
year2027 replied to T-Bone's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved another spot and T-Bone God loves you my dear friends another spot - do not worry God has found me a long time ago - thanks I will not worry about my brain any more T Bone - yes "the freedom to think, express yourself and have fun" God bless you too thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved Lone Wolf McQuade God loves you my dear friend I love to pray but I just will not pray that prayer how about this one "Heavenly Father we thank you for a wonderful night of fellowship around the greatness and accuracy of our internet. We lift to you Pawtucket and the other co helper of the Grease Spot Cafe, we thank you for working mightily in them to lead this board that serves as a beacon of light in this crooked and perversed Way Ministry. We thank you for your Truth that you have magnified above all thy name and that we can be more than conquers in every situation outside the Way Ministry. We thank you for all these things in the name of Jesus Christ , Amen." I hope I did not changed it to must thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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How to turn off your brain and become a TWIt...or
year2027 replied to T-Bone's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved T-Bone God loves you my dear friend I been looking at this off and on but today I had to know if you had any answers to 1. How to turn your brain back on after twi? 2. How to reset your brain back on after twi? I am sure some would like to hit the reset buttom on their brains just adding a little fun to a great subject thanks thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
The so called keys to power for abundant living
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved waysider God loves you my dear friend yes Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't I don't personally have all the answers either no I did not recall the "lambano" example? but I like the way you put it your heart has blessed me thanks thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
The so called keys to power for abundant living
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in About The Way
God first Beloved Bolshevik God loves you my dear friend what twi says is wrong you have asked so I had to ask God and his son myself "magnified His Word above His name" they say but I say "magnified the heart of the word above Christ name" or in better words RWP Translation with the help of the spirit in me "magnified that which is in the heart of a person above the person's name" the true love and the true others fruits of the spirit growing because Christ has join the person the word is just words it what in the heart of a person that magnifies him or her in Christ the light comes from the heart but your answer is there in the bible to were I do not know but I think it be on the subject of heart thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first The so called keys to power for abundant living 04-28-2007 Beloved friends God loves you my dear friends I call them "The so called keys to power for abundant living" because they are not any of the true keys to understanding the bible The first lets talk about in the verse were its was wrote - the are so many if’s in this key 1. If there not a figure of speech in the verse 2. If there not a custom of old in the verse 3. If there not word that meaning has changed over time the if are ending but I say if you just read while asking Christ in your heart to show you then you will see the heart of the verse The second key who it is address to 1. Jew 2. Gentile 3. Church of God but all not bible alone with others books of God wrote to lead us into perfect love or to teach us so we can learn the lesson but I say if you just read while asking Christ in your heart to show you then you will see the heart of the words context can help at times but it too much work God made things more simple than that the third key were it was written before what if it’s a word or verse that can have more than one meaning like the word for that which holds back water or the bad word so of us say Then there is Greek, Hebrew, and the A. word Did not V. P. W. Say in PFAL he had to many research books were he was reading around the word but he wants us to bug the Strong’s book then many other Come on its Christ that teaches us and all we do is point others in the right direction so they can learn to walk by the spirit not fleshly works of research with endless hours for one word have we become word worshipers or are we God worshipers this is far as I can go right now thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy PS I am putting this here because its about the keys to understand the bible like a Way person in the Way but it could go in doctrine too
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Say To This Mountain, "Be Gone!"
year2027 replied to Lone Wolf McQuade's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Lone Wolf McQuade God loves you my dear friends that was great insight you had to teach us thank you the mountains are our imaginations bad in our lives 2 Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; so many people look for the bible for fleshly understanding when its about spiritual understanding the fig tree gave up its growth so that Jesus Christ could use it to teach spiritual things it could of fought to live but it did not its like John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. is this fleshly life or spiritual life I say the context makes it spiritual life Jesus Christ came to bring life after death Jesus Christ did not have abundantly fleshly life just wanted to tell you how you help me see God's truths more perfectly thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved ChasUFarley God loves us all my dear friend I glad you liked it sonds like a nice song thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved waysider God loves us all my dear friend nice smiley thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved All God loves us all my dear friend the link http://p196.ezboard.com/fexjehovahswitness...picID=820.topic the joke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Heres a joke: A Mormon, a JW and The Wayer walk into a bar The JW drinks because the end of the world is near. The Wayer drinks cheap booze because he gave all his money to his cult. The Mormon drinks water because alcohol is forbidden. The JW and The Wayer ask the Mormon to drive them home. The Wayer offers him "the way" The JW says he will keep them "Awake!" But the Mormon says "Sorry, Im on a bike." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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They all say their way is the only way
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved JumpinJive God loves you my dear friend yes it is sadly with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved WhiteDove God loves you my dear friend I got a home Security video Cam outside that I got at Wal-mart for $67.00 about its in plan site for all to see it there but I am not recording but no one knows that but us I no longer have to answer the door for sales people or Witnessers if I am doing something I watch it in picture in a picture at times on my TV I watch for the mail if I am looking for something I watch the trash men because they torn up my old trash can but they replaced it after I went to the BBB and let them know I had them on video I had a $10.00 can and now I got a $100.00 can thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy