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God first Beloved excathedra God loves you and I do too thanks for the love thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Kit Sober God loves you my dear friend I enjoyed that a lot thanks for sharing it now when I go out I will look for those little green witnessers thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Shellon Fockler-North God loves you my dear friend http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkC...0770&cmd=tc yes you can listen to all them from this link or David's link thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Shellon Fockler-North God loves you my dear friend I use this link and move it on of the other bookmarks http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkC...0770&cmd=tc today it looks odd maybe Paw is editing it now thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Eagle God loves you my dear friend After reading some of the link of Google to parts of your book I saw that it seem you do not like the Gnostic books because of a book witten of fiction around a group of books I believe the Da Vinici code is just a book written around many books the bible too have you read the Gnostic books any of them I am just trying to make a point Look I read treads on other boards making God seem evil because of the Old Testament wars of fleshly men against fleshly men my point - just because a writter uses a book to make the writters point that does not make the book bad it only makes the writter's goal bad look at VPW he used the bible to gain power and money but the bible is still a good book or is it just sharing what I think but its a great book my friend thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved DrWearWord God loves you us dear friend Yes God gave signs for the people of the church to watch for but each person must watch and be ready themself while you can call it a group watch and I hope groups watch together but if your not watching personally you might miss the sign God has sent to you I see you see it as a group gaterning and that is ok with me that you see it this way but I see it more personally but this were my trip has took me and how you think is were your trip has took you the are many paths to travel which go the same place and go no were at the same time because its within us we are going but we seem to take the long way around we went by the way of a cult thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy Ps keep sharing and writting we all love to read of your travels
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A view on the Gathering Day...
year2027 replied to DrWearWord's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved DrWearWord God loves you my dear friend that is a nice vision or dream you see I did enjoy reading it I like how we can make things more real thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved penguin God loves you my dear friend I take all written word whether in the bible or not as aforetime or for my personal learning to get me to the point I talk one on one with God about each thing I am living that which I receive spiritually on a dayly basic all other helps me have a common subject to talk to God about to help me grow here and now but this is me and not all will agree with me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved DrWearWord God loves you us dear friend yes there will be signs as there has been signs of the first coming like there are signs of a man getting old the flesh hair turns white or falls out when the end is near alot of grass and green things will die before the end water will turn bitter signs of a final end of self or the final end of the world a lot of questions is it more personal or less personal thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved DrWearWord God loves you my dear friend some say within 10 years 2027 will be the 2,000 throusand year from the year Christ went up in the air then there the last trump which the last which comes after the first, second and so on I have said the last trump is our last breath the last sound we make fleshly but this is me thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first 06-03-2007 I must write but I should sleep my heart is moving at the speed of light thinking about that what I see and that which I saw reading the book of Revelation. After thinking dreaming I see that most of the book was wrote to teach us the real battle is between fleshly images of outer self from spiritual images of inner self. In Genesis we find two basic images one of animal life and the other of Godly life the image of God our inner self. The was a battle to see which one would rule this body of a inner image and a outer image. The outer image won and Adam walked by what he saw fleshly closing out the inner self were God could only teach mankind from the outside in coving mankind outer self until mankind could be lead to turn himself right side out like a ant with its bones on the outside. God promised he would send his inner self like a son to show man how to turn back to were the spirit image is on the outside again. Revelation talks about coming out of the flesh but this is more like brining the inner self out as the outer self becomes new giving the man true power the face is now on the inside with the inner self on the outside like a glow of great strength like a ant. Within Revelation we read how the body of flesh is attacked by a flood of water the lungs filling up with water the blood not flowing as it should and many other attacks because of old age from the fleshly animals that come against the body. Trees dying like hair falling out and many others things that just do not come to mind this very second than in third John I recall greater is he in us our inner self which is the true self good or bad than he of the world the flesh on the outside that loses it glory over the years. Then the is sex I would like to bring up but not in a dirty was just the edge of it. Some mark who they come together like a western out laws marks the ones he kills on his gun but that is only outer sex the outward goals for having sex. But there are inner goals the most basic is to have a child which is when to come together for inner goals to comfort one another inner heart not looking for outer glory but just love to be together. True love is this kind of love without outer joy but a inner joy to become as one no longer two as God had plan the fleshly image and the spiritual image to walk as one in unity of one another. But a battle begin which destroyed many of souls but Christ came to make peace between the outer self and the inner self turning us inside out. But I stop I want to look at a part of Romans most people think they understand but they do not even come close as I see it. Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Most people read this as a sin against God but its not against God but against nature out outer self our fleshly body. A sin against God would be a sin against our inner self but this sin is not against God but against out flesh. What is against God here is the miss use of our flesh the very same sin of over eating or eating the wrong kinds of food which can be forgiven and most people sin against the way God set up things to work. This sin against flesh like all sins against our flesh has a recompense of the error which comes in the form of sickness either for us or its passed alone to our children through our blood within our DNA makeup. That which is against God is against God and that which is against flesh is against flesh. Its sad how the world attacks the weak in flesh when they are weak too. I might say remove your sins against flesh before you try to remove others people’s sins against flesh. Now my eyes are tired and I most stop here for now, thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy.
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God first Beloved All God loves us all great show taking about the lie VPW taught about the sin being passed alone in the blood it not the sin Its the recompense of their error that is pasted alone not the sin but the sickless that comes from each sin like blood presure from over eating just my view no one other has to see has I do thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first What I feel any given second 06-02-2007 As I sat and think of my many years there one things that does not changed my heart to be part of that which is around me. Today I feel that God loves us all but when I was young I did not even know God but at least I knew of God. I recall my Way ministry years even more when some close to me speaks of them without understanding the good, the bad, the need, the want, and the joy and pain of being part of that so many years. I recall how I had no focus and how my life was of no value to me this was the good if turned me from a life of pain without friends to a life with a focus the movement of the Way ministry. While the focus was not the right focus it would lead me to the focus I was born to reach in due time a son of the most high God brother to Jesus the Christ. But the truth I was there before the Way ministry but without understanding what I was seeing was spiritual and what I was hearing was spiritual the true realm of love calling me because I was calling out for help within this world of flesh. Within the good was a doorway to the spiritual realm as I begin the hear God talk to me personally then came my needs being took care of one by one I found a world were others talked like me with basic the same goals. The bad came because the Way ministry was only using me as merchandise to get them rich fleshly but if they only knew I had the keys to spiritual riches a heart so pure as many others had but they never saw only miss used our hearts as they walk all over us. The need for friends and fellowship was there but it was took away until I found it again with a group of EX-Way believers and unbelievers on a site called Grease Spot Café which led me to true spiritual things. The want to help others within the Way ministry and without the Way ministry. The want for people to like me the way I was before the Way ministry while changing to think as they the Way ministry wanted without even seeing myself changed. Later the real want to fellowship with God as he is within the spiritual realm as I talk with his beloved son and begin to live true love the purest kind of love. Next the is the joy of the Way ministry which was not joy at all but the fleshly emotion of being happy because things are going good but later the pain came because it was only happiness with as a end. But joy came while in the Grease Spot Café when I saw true joy comes from living true love which is seeing its all simple if we just reach to that which we see not. Pain came over and over in life as I tried to live fleshly it seems that fleshly people hurt each other without even trying at times. And yes the Way ministry gave me pain when I saw how fleshly they acted. Now there is fleshly pain at every corner but if a person goes to God with love and ask him for help overcoming his or her fleshly desire of sadness God will bring spiritual joy. Now we have turn to another second the Way ministry is passed and the true God has stood up tall and bright and I can see with my spiritual eyes his light. Yes no flesh has seem God but my spirit is not flesh as it leads me to true understanding as I see the messengers of God all around me the little lights of truth I once believe were devil spirits and before that the dead walking. Now I know they are the dead hearts of the ones who die waiting for the first coming or the dead hearts waiting for the second coming. They are the inner hearts of the dead as they flow around as children of God. Yes this is out there but truth is not fleshly nor can it be because it the image of God we become not the image of flesh. The true battle is between flesh leading our heart or the spirit of Christ planted within us leading our hearts. The true devil is our flesh that which can lead but that which should follower. The goal is that one day we break out of this flesh like a chicken breaks out of a egg. From the image of outer flesh to the image of the inner spirit which has been made alive by the love of Christ. The voices I hear are God, Jesus Christ, and the ones who have changed before me at their day of the last trump as they broke out of their flesh. If a book could teach us the very truth of spiritual awareness it would of been wrote but for this we must travel the path from what we see there to what is really there by letting the seed of Christ led us by asking for spiritual help after spiritual help. Because that which we think we understand we do not and that which we know we understand we are wrong because that which is fleshly is fleshly and that which is spiritual is spiritual. Now can I lead you no, all I can do is point you in the right direction asked for that which you can not see nor understand with your fleshly minds for God will send it when you get ready. I can write this to you because many have witnessed spiritual things by pray with understanding and without understanding but this is only the beginning of reaching out, so reach with me for more the is a whole spiritual realm out there to see and hear by visions and dreams of what you will receive when you break out of the flesh. I will end now at this second, thank you, with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved DrWearWord God loves you my dear friend I glad the doctor is here now welcome to our little world were we know little but reach to know it all the beginning of our trip from fleshly knowledge to spiritual knowledge the flesh against the spirit wuth hopes that in the end the spirit wins the day I leave my flesh and become a true creature of spirit I will end now before I show you I do not know as I am known yet thank you with Godly love and a holy spiritual kiss of Christ blowing your way Roy
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How can we make the book of Revelation more real?
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first How can we make the book of Revelation more real? part 8 05-31-2007 Here I sat as I read the book of Revelation and looking at it within my heart as if I am seeing the vision live and as all the things are happen to me as if I am the whole world. Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And after these things have passed I John or the body part saw within the vision another messenger come down from above having great spiritual power and the earth was light up with his glory of brightness. Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. And he the messenger cried out mightily like the sound of mightily breathing with a powerful voice saying “Babylon the great is fallen and has become the habitation of devils or of fleshly images with the hold of every foul fleshly image making captive every unclean image and hateful flesh like a hateful fowl of the wind. Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. For all the nations of flesh have drunk of the wine of the hate of her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh of ways to control like fornication and the kings of the flesh of the earth have committed fornication with her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh by making the truth her merchandise for fleshly gains and she the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh has become fleshly rich through the abundance of her lies to use the children of God. Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. And I John or the body part heard another voice from heaven above saying “Come out of her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh my people that you not be partakers of her sins by lies and you received not her rewards like plagues. Revelation 18: 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. For her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh sins have reached unto the heaven and God has remembered wrong works. Revelation 18: 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. Reward her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh even as she rewarded you by taking from you double will be took from her according to her fleshly works of the cup of blood which she took double portion of gifts receiving for herself rewards of the wrath of God. Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. How must she the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh has glorified herself fleshly making herself higher than others as she lived like one of royal blood deliciously of luxurious living but she shall give herself torment and great sorrow because she said within her heart that she thinks she is like a queen that she thinks she will never be lacking a husband or a man and that she thinks she will see no sorrow. Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. Therefore shall her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh pain like plagues come in one unity of God like a Godly day fleshly death , with mourning and great famine as she is utterly burned with spiritual fire for strong or powerful is the Lord God who gives righteous judgment to her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh . Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, And the kings like rulers of the fleshly earth who have committed fornication or help her with her works and lived deliciously with her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh shall weep for her with mourning when they see the smoke of her the flesh burning away. Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. Standing afar off fear of receiving her torment too saying “Alas alas that great city Babylon that mighty city of flesh for in unity of God or one spiritual hour has a righteous judgment come unto her the flesh.” Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: And the merchants of fleshly things of the earth shall weep and mourn over her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh because no fleshly man buys their merchandise any more. Revelation 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, The merchandise of gold, and silver, precious stones, of pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all citron wood, all kinds of vessels of ivory, all manner vessels of most precious wood, of brass, iron, and marble Revelation 18: 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. And of cinnamon, aroma, ointments, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, beasts, sheep, horses, chariots, slaves, and souls of men as merchandise. Revelation 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. And the fruits of flesh that their soul of flesh lusted after are departed from souls of mankind and all things which were sumptuous or dainty and goodly are left from the flesh and the flesh shall find them no more. Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, The merchants or salesman who were made rich by her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh shall stand afar off for fear of joining in on her torment, weeping and wailing, Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! And saying “Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fleshly image like fine linen of purple with scarlet decked with gold, precious stones, and pearls!” Revelation 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, For in unity of God or one hour so great fleshly riches have come to waste and every ship maker with all the multitude of ships and sailors with many other trades of the sea stood afar off and watched Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! And they the multitude of sea workers saw the smoke of her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh burning saying “What city is like unto this city of flesh that is a great city. Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. And they the ones watching from afar off cast dust on their head as a custom crying, weeping, wailing, and saying “Alas, alas, that great city of flesh that was made rich by all that had ships by reason of her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh costliness because of unity of God or one hour she was lay wasted. Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. Rejoice over her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh because of heaven and your holy apostles, and prophets because God has avenged you by her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh. Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And a mighty messenger took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into cast it into the sea of water saying “Thus with violence shall that great city of the flesh Babylon be thrown down and it shall be found no more at all” Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the music like voices of harpers and musicians with pipers and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee the flesh and no craftsman of whatever craft he be or was shall not be found any more in the flesh nor any fleshly sound like the sound of millstone shall be heard no more at all in the flesh because all life is spirit. Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in the fleshly world and the sound like the voice of a bridegroom or of the bride shall be heard no more at all in the world of flesh for their merchants or salesmen were fleshly great men of flesh of the earth for by their works like sorceries were all nations of flesh miss lead. Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. And in her the false prophet or false church the whore the flesh was found the blood of the prophets, saints and all that were slain in the name of God upon the flesh. thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
How can we make the book of Revelation more real?
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first How can we make the book of Revelation more real? part 7 05-30-2007 Here I sat as I read the book of Revelation and looking at it within my heart as if I am seeing the vision live and as all the things are happen to me as if I am the whole world Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And I John or the body part heard a great voice like mighty breathing coming out of the body the temple of saying to the spiritual messengers “Go your ways and pour the cups full of vials of the gifts of God upon the earth of flesh. Note vials contain the gifts of the spirit some good but others bad Revelation 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. And the unity of God went and poured out his gifts upon the earth of flesh and there fell harm and guilt sore upon the flesh which had the mark of completely complete man of flesh and them who worshiped the image of flesh. Revelation 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man; and every living soul died in the sea. And established messenger of unity of God pour out his gifts upon the waters and it because of the blood of dead flesh and every living fleshly life that die in the waters. Revelation 16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And the complete messenger pour out his gifts upon the rivers of water and the fountains of waters and they the waters became like blood undrinkable. Revelation 16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. And I John or the body part heard the messenger of water say “You are righteous O Lord which are, was, and will be because you have judged righteousness. Revelation 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. For they the flesh with the mark of completely complete man have shed the blood of saints and prophets and you Lord Christ have given the saints blood to drink because they the saints are worthy. Revelation 16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. And I John or the body part heard within the vision out of the altar the Christ say “Even so Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. Revelation 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And the worldly messenger pour his gifts upon the sun of light and gave it power to scorch flesh kind with fire or great heat. Revelation 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. And mankind were burned with great heat and they blasphemed or cursed the name of God which had the power to remove these plagues to get them to repent but they repented not to give God glory or love. Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, And the messenger of grace pour out his gifts upon the seat of the flesh or beast and his kingdoms was full of spiritual death or darkness and they flesh kind gnawed their tongues for pain Revelation 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. And they the ones with the mark completely complete man cursed or blasphemed the God of heaven because of the punishment of pains and sores and they repented or changed not of their ways or deeds. Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And the messenger of man poured out his gifts upon the great river of water Euphrates and the water of the river was dried up so that the way of the fleshly kings of the earth of eastern land might be prepared for battle. Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. And I John or the body part saw a complete amount or three fleshly images like a frog coming out the mouth of the fleshly dragon or devil and out the mouth of the flesh like a beast and out the mouth of the lying prophet. Note this is like a changed from one to another but from flesh image of mankind to a lower kind of flesh image Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. For they the ones with the mark are the images of the devil working false miracles of the flesh which went unto the kingdoms of flesh and the whole world of flesh to gather the images together to fight against the spirit of God on the great day of God Almighty the day of judgment the last Godly year to watch flesh walk. Note we changed to spiritual life kind and walk spiritually Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. I John or the body part behold Christ within my vision coming as a thief in the dark saying “blessed is he that has watched and keep his garments or covering pure by repenting daily so he not walk naked of a spiritual coving of me within him and view himself in his shame of guilt. Revelation 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. And he Christ gathered them the saints into the place called in Hebrew tongue Armageddon for the coming battle of spirit against flesh. Revelation 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And the spiritual messenger pour out gifts into the air or wind and there came a great voice like mighty breathing out of the temple the body of God from the throne the head of God saying “It is done or It is finish” Revelation 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And there was a voice like mighty breathing with thunder like a victory call with lights like lightening as the earth shake like a great earthquake such as never was saw upon the earth of flesh so strong powerful shaking of the earth like a earthquake but very great. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And the powerful city of flesh was divided into three complete parts and the cities of the nations fell and that great city Babylon of the flesh came into remembrance of God to give unto the great city of flesh the cup of the blood of Christ the wine of life and the fierceness of God’s judgment. Revelation 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And every island of dust fled away but no mountains were found to hid in or no place to hid from the present of God was found. Revelation 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. And there fell from above onto the earth great fire like hail out of heaven every stone of fire or stone of hail was about the weight of a talent and fleshly men cursed or blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail for the plague or punishment was very great. Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: And there came unity of God a spiritual messenger which had spiritual gifts as he the spiritual messenger talk with me John or the body part saying unto me “Come hither and I the spiritual messenger will show the judgment of the great powerful whore the false church or false prophet that sat upon the many waters of truth. Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. With the fleshly kings of the earth have committed fornication with the false church or false prophet that sat upon the waters of the word of truth using the word of truth for fleshly gain and the inhabitants of the flesh have been made drunk with the wine of her mouth miss using the word of truth. Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. So he the spiritual messenger carried me John or the body part away into spirit into the wilderness a place of being lost and I John or the body part saw the false prophet or false church a woman like a whore siting upom with a scarlet color fleshly covering full of names of cursing or blasphemy of the false words she spoke having spiritual like head and perfection of divine order to fight like a goat. Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And the false church or the false prophet the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet covering like a priest of the tribe of Levite decked with pure gold, precious stones and pearls using the golden cup the blood of Christ for fleshly gain and in the woman with is the false prophet or false church hand cursing the truth with abominations unto children of God with filthily lies of her the women the false prophet or false prophet by her miss using the children of God like fornication. Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And upon her forehead with in her the false prophet or false church heart with the name wrote “Mystery Babylon the great fleshly mother of harlots or users of the flesh and a Abomination of the fleshly kind. Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And I John or the body part saw the women false prophet or false church drunken with the blood of the saints she the women false prophet or false church miss used and of the martyrs of Jesus because of her lies and when I John or the body part saw her the woman the false church or false prophet I John or the body part wondered of how she the woman the false church or false prophet received great admiration from the ones she misslead. Revelation 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. And the spiritual messenger said unto me John or the body part “Why did you marvel? I the spiritual messenger will tell you the mystery of the woman the false prophet or false church and the fleshly desires that carry her away with has the spiritual heads and perfection of divine order. Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. The flesh like beast that you saw was and is not which shall ascend from the bottomless pit the grave to go into perdition and they that walk or dwell in the flesh or on the earth shall wonder who names were not written in the book of life that was wrote before the foundation of the world when they behold their flesh that was and is not and yet is. Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And here is the mind which has wisdom which is the spiritual mind the spiritual heads are the spiritual mountains on which the women the false prophet or false church sat hiding herself from spiritual truth. Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And there are spiritual kings or spiritual rulers grace has fallen and unity of God is and the other has not come yet and when he the flesh must continue only a short space or time. Revelation 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And he the flesh that was flesh and is not is not flesh even has flesh has no new beginning because the new beginning will be spiritual as flesh goes into perdition. Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. And the perfection of divine order which you saw are the perfection of divine order of kings or rulers which have received no kingdom yet but received power as of a king unity of God with the flesh. Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These have unity of God mind like the mind of Christ which shall give them spiritual power and spiritual strength against the flesh. Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. These shall make war with the Lamb of God and Lamb of God the Christ shall help them overcome their flesh because Christ is Lord of lords, and King of kings and all they that stand with him Christ shall be called the chosen and the faithful. Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And he Christ said unto me John or the body part “The waters of truth the word of God which you saw where the whore the false prophet or false church sat are people, multitudes, nations, and tongues. Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. And the perfection of divine order like a horn for defense which you saw upon the flesh like a beast these people, multitudes, nations, and tongues shall hate her desolate of lies or nakeeness of truth and shall eat her the whore the false prophet or false church fleshly lies with spiritual truth like a burning fire. Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. For God has put in their the people, multitudes, nations, and tongues hearts to fulfil his God’s will and to agree as unity of God given their fleshly kingdoms unto fleshly men like a beast until the words of God written shall be finish. Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. And the women the whore, the false church, or the false prophet which you John or the body part saw within that great fleshly city which rules over the kings of flesh of the earth. thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
How can we make the book of Revelation more real?
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved GrouchoMarxJr God loves you my dear friend does that mean if we want to understand Romans better we Re-elect Bill Clinten for a 3rd term thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Beloved Bolshevik or the Russian pufferfish God loves you my dear friend maybe it is dynamic and there a view foe each of God's names yes like that "Like how I'm different to different people? (To my parents I'm a son, to my wife a husband, to my son a father, to you a Russian pufferfish?) " if you get a new picture than I will be lost glad we are having fun thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Mr. Hammeroni God loves you my dear friend I believe any thing is possible But I do not believe we come back as other people or animals but I do believe we will come back to be a new creation more like God thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Shellon Fockler-North, HAPe4me, and WhiteDove God loves you all my dear friends Shellon Fockler-North your welcome HAPe4me you said "I want a top view of both " so do I one from heaven WhiteDove - yes God is not double minded but I and I say I have saw it can be look at from many points of view but this is me WhiteDove - yes leta transform our view to the spiritual view but that takes time and I believe God wrote it to help us each step of the way but again this is me When we were in the Way Ministry we only has fleshly view because we got it by fleshly works we call research but when we get our view from talking one on one with God or Christ that is a spiritual view or when God or Christ shows us hiding in the open truths in the bible that is a spiritual view too but again this just me WhiteDove -no his view does no change but it a view that covers everything that could be needed like a all in one bible have some more Coffee my friends I glad we could think together but that does not make my way right for any other person nor do I want to push my ways just wanted to share them as all of you do thank you all with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved Shellon Fockler-North and Abigail God loves us all my dear friend Shellon Fockler - yes to "introduce us to differant view, opinions" that more than one can be right all are the same city just from differ points but all the same picture of the same city Abigail - thanks for "the Holy kisses" to me thank you two with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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God first Beloved WhiteDove God loves you my dear friend What if his view the writter is many view what if he wrote it to help us when we are living by our five senses and when we are living spiritual what if he wanted it to be personal help and all so be for the whole family help thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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How can we make the book of Revelation more real?
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first How can we make the book of Revelation more real? part 6 05-27-2007 Here I sat as I read the book of Revelation and looking at it within my heart as if I am seeing the vision live and as all the things are happen to me as if I am the whole world Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I John or the body part looked into the vision and saw the Lamb of God the Christ standing on mount Sion with alone side of Christ an unity of God by perfection of divine order by perfection of divine order with period of trial over the world by a Godly day or an hundred forty and four thousand having Christ’s father’s name written in their hearts. Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And I John or the body part heard a sound from above of mighty breathing like the sound of many water running of a cliff and the voice a victory sound like great thunder and then I John or the body part heard the sound of singers like harpers singing with their harps. Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. And they the harpers sung as if it was a new song before the throne of God and the worldly beast and the twenty four elders but no fleshly man could learn that song because it was spiritual besides the unity of God by perfection of divine order by perfection of divine order with period of trial over the world by a Godly day or hundred and forty and four thousand which were saved from the flesh by the blood of Christ. Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. These the hundred and forty and four thousand are the one who were not defiled with sin that Eve started because they have clean making them virgins to sin these are the ones who follower the Lamb of God the Christ everywhere Christ leads these hundred and forty and four thousand were clean from the sins of the flesh and they are unity unto God like first fruits God’s love and the love of the Lamb of God the Christ. Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. And in their the hundred and forty and four thousand mouth was found no lie or trickly for they were clean without fault forgiven of past wash clean by Christ that stand before the throne of God. Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, And I John or the body part saw within my vision another flying fleshly angel in the middle of heaven having the wings of the everlasting truth the gospel to share unto all the best of the body or earth to every part or every nation, flesh-kind, tongue of people. Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. The flying angel was saying with a voice like mighty breathing “Respect God and give praise for the hour God’s judgment has come so worship like a father that made the heaven, dust, and the waters and fountains of the deep. Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And next came another fleshly angel saying “Babylon is fallen or the fleshly body has fallen that great city or great body because she the body or the city made the flesh of the body or the nations drink of the wine like wrath of her sins for power over spirit like two fornicate with each other to control one other. Note she is the flesh and the male part is the Christ of us all – the flesh tries to rule the inner self but do not let her your spirit was given to you to rule your inner self note the inner self is that which makes you who you are Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, And a complete angel or third follower them that walk or dwell on the fleshly earth or body saying unto them “If any flesh worship the beast image or received the mark of completely complete man in his heart of his mind or in his hand of righteousness. Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: The same shall drink of the wine of wrath of God or tasted the wrath of God’s correction which is poured out like a mixture of punishment with pain like a burning fire like a flashing memory of his sins in the presence of the spiritual saints and the Lamb of God the Christ. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. And the smoke or sound of their pain ascended up never ending without rest day or night who worshiped the flesh and the image of flesh and who ever received the mark of completely complete man which is his name. Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Here is the patience that the saints have because they keep the command of love of the true God and believing that turn to faith a sure thing of Jesus the Christ. Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. And I John or the body part heard a sound like mighty breathing like voice from heaven saying unto me the body part or John “Write blessed are the dead which have die with the Lord Christ in them from here after” the spirit within me said “ Yes that they the dead with Christ them may rest and they the dead with Christ them from works to over temptation and their good works to chase after them the dead with Christ them . Note John is part of the church so the subject of a member of the church lives on in John Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And I John or the body part beheld in the vision a white cloud or a pure body and upon the body like a cloud sat one like unto the son of man the Jesus Christ having a pure reward like a golden crown and in his hand of righteousness a shape sickle to harvest the wheat the children of God. Revelation 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And another angel of flesh came out of the temple of God the house of God his body crying with a voice like mighty breathing to Christ who sat on the cloud of many witnesses saying “Thrust in into wheat the sickle and harvest the wheat who are the children of God for the time of the harvest is here and the flesh is dead or ripe. Note this harvest happen first time when the dead got out of the graves so that Christ could lead them up to their rewards and it will happen every time a child of God dies until the last one that would believe dies – because when a fruit is ripe you pick it before it falls off the tree Revelation 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. And he Christ that sat upon the cloud of witnesses thrust in this sickle upon the flesh of the earth because the fruit of love was ripe. Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel of the waters or field in the heavens above came out of the body of God or temple like a house which the sphere of heaven this angel also had a sharp sickle for harvesting. Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. And another angel came out of the alar of Christ which had spirit power over spiritual fire and the angel cried out with a mighty sound or voice or cry like mighty breathing the angel that had the sharp sickle for harvesting said “Thrust in the sharp sickle for harvesting and gather the clusters of the vine or of the tree of Christ planted in the flesh for the vines fruit like a grape fully ripe are ready for harvesting.” Note it’s the love of Christ in us the is the fruit that grows until the vine of flesh can not longer give the fruit life to ripping. Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the flesh and gather the vine like fruit of the flesh and cast it into the great winepress of the God the judgment hall to see which rewards each will get. Not God does not just judge for punishment one can receive not there needs to be judgment to were you will sat in the kingdom of heaven which is every were form the front roll to the last - more or less how you will spent for ever Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. And the winepress the judgment of God was trample under by the feet of God and blood of Christ came out of the this judgment of the fleshly city or body because some were judge not faithful even as high as a horses bridle with the space of a Godly day of man by perfection of divine order the race of flesh. Note this blood came out because all were harvest but not all were good to make wine or to receive a reward of life Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I John or the body part saw within my vision a sign in heaven great wonderful spiritual messengers having spiritual stripes for in these stipes is filled the wrath of God. Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. And I John or the body part saw a image of what looked like a sea of glass mingled with fire or a spiritual image mix with the power of the holy spirit for them who have got the victory over the flesh and its fleshly image and its spiritual mark of completely complete man standing on the image of spirit like a sea of glass having the breathing like harps of God. Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. And they the saints were singing the song of Moses the servant of God a elder and the song of the Lamb of God the Christ saying “Powerful and wonderful are thy works our Lord God the Almighty just as true are your ways our saints of the King God. Revelation 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. Who shall not respect you our Lord God and glorify your name? For you only are holy spiritual truth for all the nations of the saints which have come before you your rewards by judgment which is received. Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And after all that I John or the body part looked up into the vision and saw God the temple of the tabernacle the spiritual covering of the testimony which is a witness in heaven which was revealed. Revelation 15:6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. And the spiritual messenger came out of God the temple having spiritual stripes which are like plagues dressed in pure white linen and having their breast girded with righteous with pure golden girdles. note angel can be a messenger which can be a fleshly animal or fleshly person Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. And one of the four beast of the field gave unto the spiritual messenger spiritual pure golden cups like vials full of the wrath of God or judgment of God who was without beginning and without end. Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. And the body or temple of God was filled with smoke of a fire of truth from the glory of God and from his power his love were no man of flesh was able to enter his body until the spiritual stipes or plagues have been given by the spiritual messengers. Note God’s body the temple is in heaven but there a inside and outside and no one enter inside until the time given to enter thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy -
God first Which view is right? 05-28-2007 Beloved my dear friends of Grease Spot Café God loves you all each and every one of us my dear friends. I think thinking from the outside of the box, from the inside looking, and within the skin of the box. I am written a pole here for us to think about Ok lets say I took a picture from the north side of a city then I took one from the south side of a city and then I took one from the east side of a city and then I took one from the west side of a city which picture of the city is the true picture of the city? or Lets say I look at the bible from a personal view point then Lets say I look at the bible from a group view point and then Lets say I look at the bible from a natural five senses view point and then Lets say I look at the bible from a natural spiritual view point which view point the bible is right? thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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How can we make the book of Revelation more real?
year2027 replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
God first Beloved Sunesis God loves you my dear friend yes we can take it literally because it has a literal meaning as well as a spiritual meaning I like looking at it both ways literal to me is fleshly or from the insight of the flesh yes " the Bible has history, but it is a book of prophecy. To me, Revelation is a book of hope." both I see them all has hope - history - prophecy - and more hope for the flesh - hope for afterlife life history - of past years of old - history of our personal lives prophecy - of truths past and still coming or just spiritual fellowship your wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I tend to think the 7 churches in the beginning is a history of Christianity, from the beginning, to its "marriage" to the world, to the revival in the Philadelphean church, to the state of it now, the Laodocean church. From whosoever calls on Christ, to the "if any" man seeks - i.e., how now today, so few are looking for a relationship with him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I see it that way to but I see many other things too within the pages of the heart it is bringing each church part of the gift of holy spirit the first seven I onced saw you see we are allways changing growing getting closer to the real truth but just on the outside layer you wrote ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Church isn't mentioned in the rest of the book, because they are with him - they are gone, it is his bride. Then we see his dealings with the Jews, and the world, the martyrs during the tribulation who will be his after believing the 144,000 men who witness, and the two witnesses Elija and Elisha - or whoever they are, who will witness to the world, and lastly, the 3 angels sent by God to warn the world not to take the mark. In God's love for people he will send more prophets, witnesses, and finally angels to turn men to him - to come, be a new, marvelous creation in the new kingdom - the ultra "evolutionary" step is offered. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ yes the church of God are not menion as a church nor are they a church they are the temple the body that becomes new God can not give the true number 144,000 me so he gives a number that gives a greater meaning the two witness are many Elija and Elisha in their time -- Jew and Gentile that become children of God but the truth is we are all Jews We all came from Noah blood lines then there two witnesses the flesh and the spirit God has done send the three angels hope, love, and truth witnessing to us before our end is here it about saving one person at a time personally by God sending his love the Christ you wrote --------------------------------------------------------------- We see: mankind scorched by the sun. Why? They worshipped the sun (since Babylon) and other gods, now their gods are proven false. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ maybe but I do not think so I think it more about the need the flesh has for sun light to live but really needs God's true light you wrote ------------------------------------------------------------ Finally, we see the new heaven and earth, all restored to the original glory in Gen. 1:1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- our bodies have changed new birth has come we are made better than things were in Gen 1 our flesh is spirit our bodies are pure light we have changed our lives have changed all is new you wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------- When God created heaven, earth, life, angels, there was one will. All was perfection. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I say all was no created or made or formed perfection because death came perfection can not be destroy The heaven in Gen was about creation in action of the heaven and earth allways being made better by time while never forming itself until its got perfection I see the creation still happening not complete until all has changed like a butterfly to the better There was all ways two wills which are just choices eat of the tree or not God begin us with a choice two to pick from you wrote ------------------------------------------------------------- So, to me, Revelation is a book of hope - death, destruction, chaos destroyed, perfection and harmony once more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ its all of that to me but now its becoming more personal as I want to get person to make it more personal in their own way you wrote ----------------------------------------------------- No matter what happens, there is a new world coming -------------------------------------------------------- there were all so be a new body God is a personal God and I plan to see it biger and biger as we grow together I glad you share your heart because that only builds on my heart together we have more power of truth thank you with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy